tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post6892882577547229975..comments2024-03-27T18:24:19.683-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: Obama's Universal Preschool PushUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger46125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-29762739523106076702009-05-14T13:59:00.000-07:002009-05-14T13:59:00.000-07:00Lucius,
Virtually all of the growth in the black ...Lucius,<br /><br />Virtually all of the growth in the black population is from immigration. I don't remember where I found that, so I can't share it right now. Most of those high fertility types are immigrants. Immigrants have higher fertility than native born US citizens. That is true of whites and Asians as well as NAM's.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-2944742221189356762009-05-14T11:54:00.000-07:002009-05-14T11:54:00.000-07:00Anonymous Dudes - I have to admit, I was dubious [...Anonymous Dudes - I have to admit, I was dubious [even after skimming the links], but I just ran the numbers from <A HREF="http://www.census.gov/prod/2008pubs/p20-558.pdf" REL="nofollow">this PDF</A>, for all women aged 40-44 [who are essentially finished making children]:<br /><br />0 children: 20.4%<br />1 child: 16.9%<br />2 children: 34.4%<br />3 children: 18.5%<br />4 children: 6.4%<br />5 children or more: 3.5%<br /><br />Now I don't know how to approach the question of "5 children or more", and I don't feel like spending half a day trying to think about just which family of probability distributions you would choose from to try to fit a curve to that data, so I went ahead and ran the numbers with 5, 5.5, and 6 being representative of "5 or more":<br /><br />0*(20.4) + 1*(16.9) + 2*(34.4) = <B>85.7</B> <br /><br />-versus-<br /><br />3*(18.5) + 4*(6.4) + 5*(3.5) = <B>98.6</B> <br />3*(18.5) + 4*(6.4) + (5.5)*(3.5) = <B>100.35</B> <br />3*(18.5) + 4*(6.4) + 6*(3.5) = <B>102.1</B> <br /><br />Okay, now let's re-run the numbers for "White alone, non-Hispanic" women, aged 40-44:<br /><br />0 children: 22.5%<br />1 child: 16.2%<br />2 children: 35.5%<br />3 children: 17.7%<br />4 children: 5.6%<br />5 children or more: 2.6%<br /><br />0*(22.5) + 1*(16.2) + 2*(35.5) = <B>87.2</B> <br /><br />-versus-<br /><br />3*(17.7) + 4*(5.6) + 5*(2.6) = <B>88.5</B> <br />3*(17.7) + 4*(5.6) + (5.5)*(2.6) = <B>89.8</B> <br />3*(17.7) + 4*(5.6) + 6*(2.6) = <B>91.1</B> <br /><br />So the situation in the Caucasian community is just about even, but the situation in the NAM community appears to be wildly disparate [with the NAMs really pulling away as you get out to 4, 5, and 6 children per woman].<br /><br />For instance:<br /><br />Age 40 to 44 years, 5 or more children:<br /><br />Asian: 0.5%<br />White alone, non-Hispanic: 2.6%<br />Black alone: 5.9%<br />Hispanic (any race): 7.1%<br /><br />PS: Anyone wanna hazard a guess as to where those extremely high fertility NAM women lie on just their NAM IQ bell curves [much less vis-a-vis the white/asian IQ bell curves]?Lucius Vorenusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-25340174363595945062009-05-13T17:22:00.000-07:002009-05-13T17:22:00.000-07:00Lucius,
Most children live with both biological d...Lucius,<br /><br />Most children live with both biological data.<br /><br />Census data:<br /><br />http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/www/releases/archives/children/011507.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-18221910463970697422009-05-13T16:41:00.000-07:002009-05-13T16:41:00.000-07:00Do you have sources for those two statistics?
su...Do you have sources for those two statistics?<br /><br /><br />sure, Lucius,<br /><br />The US census update.<br /><br />page 3, table 1 <br /><br />http://www.census.gov/prod/2008pubs/p20-558.pdf<br /><br />Although, I am giving you the benefit of the doubt that you can read a graph AND do middle school math.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-13538246046446172922009-05-13T11:31:00.000-07:002009-05-13T11:31:00.000-07:00Fascinating stuff. I don't know if it's true or n...Fascinating stuff. I don't know if it's true or not (it may well be) but just in case -<br /><br />I will go home tonight and offer my kids, if and when they have children, the free-of-charge use of Grandpa Figgy's Daycare Services, for as long as the traditional, old fart proprietor can manage it.Figgyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11471054232094209230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-76825146831929543342009-05-13T02:07:00.000-07:002009-05-13T02:07:00.000-07:00"They are not known by other tribes for their pers..."They are not known by other tribes for their personal charisma, singing or comedy"<br /><br />I'll grant you comedy, but Sweden punches well above its weight in the arts (high and popular).<br /><br />I read once that Sweden produced more great opera singers per capita than any other country (In the last century Birgit Nilsson, Jussi Bjorling, Nicolai Gedda, Elisabeth Soderstrom etc) <br /><br />And in popular music they had Abba (one of the biggest acts in popular music history) and a number of other groups popular in Europe (roxette, ace of base, the cardigans, clawfinger...)<br /><br />They even score pretty highly in the more rarified field of outsider music with inspired lunatics like Anna Lisa Ingemansson (and some others).michael farrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10232229721381140090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-81241683258911775842009-05-12T19:12:00.000-07:002009-05-12T19:12:00.000-07:00Homeschooling is still only used by a small minori...<I>Homeschooling is still only used by a small minority of parents</I>The stats on homeschooling alone are deceptive. What you really need to look at is homeschooling + delayed school entry + private schooling + early community college attendance. When you add it all together it's not a small minority anymore. <br /><br />It's not about *homeschooling* per se, it's about parents taking control of their children's education and picking and choosing from various educational services available to them. This shift has already happened among intelligent people. A push for mandatory preschool would paradoxically strengthen people's resolve and bring more people into the good-parenting camp.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-81363888665443555012009-05-12T18:49:00.000-07:002009-05-12T18:49:00.000-07:00Anonymous: Right now the majority of children in t...<B>Anonymous:</B> <I>Right now the majority of children in the US are living in families with 3 or more children. At the same time the majority of women have 0-2 children.</I> <br /><br />Do you have sources for those two statistics?<br /><br />Thanks!Lucius Vorenusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-3724077968994769702009-05-12T18:23:00.000-07:002009-05-12T18:23:00.000-07:00Slightly off topic, but in the nineteenth century ...Slightly off topic, but in the nineteenth century there was a movement to put children in universal preschool, called the Infant School Movement. Obviously, either the movement failed or the "schools" were abolished in the few places they existed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-59724933181098848192009-05-12T13:28:00.000-07:002009-05-12T13:28:00.000-07:00"Because of Demographics (more women than men, and..."Because of Demographics (more women than men, and women bloc voting) all throughout the West massive Welfare States were constructed, not out of conspiracies but because they meet female needs, which are vastly different to male needs."<br /><br />t99<br /><br />But they don't meet children's needs.<br /><br />Married women still have more children. Those children will grow up with the values learned in their homes. Right now the majority of children in the US are living in families with 3 or more children. At the same time the majority of women have 0-2 children. These folks a dying breed, literally.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-86987945136160034282009-05-12T13:15:00.000-07:002009-05-12T13:15:00.000-07:00Evil Neocon/testing99/whatever-his-screen name-is-...Evil Neocon/testing99/whatever-his-screen name-is-on-various-other-sites is on to something about present-day women. He is to be encouraged in that direction - and away from foreign policy, his weaker area. So he can't get a date. It doesn't seem to produce quite the same intensity of exaggeration, the same frequency of errors and omissions of fact, the same hysteria and the same baldness of invention that many of us find in his foreign policy comments. When someone talks sense, you must acknowledge it, no matter who he is. t99 talks tolerable sense about the modern-day Young Female as commonly encountered by the uncalcified male under 40 (not your wife and your times, guys - the coming generation and the future - your daughters excepted, of course). Kudos to t.Davidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-19881051223686318552009-05-12T13:14:00.000-07:002009-05-12T13:14:00.000-07:00David,
The name of the newspaper of the local co...David,<br /> <br />The name of the newspaper of the local community college:<br /><br />The EgalitarianAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-74381238874499891842009-05-12T12:58:00.000-07:002009-05-12T12:58:00.000-07:00It's not, but it will also lead to a lot of people...<I>It's not, but it will also lead to a lot of people waking up to the problem and taking the care of their children seriously, just like what happened with homeschooling</I>.<br /><br />Um, no. Homeschooling is still only used by a small minority of parents, so the public school system still educates the vast majority of children. If universal preschool ends up like homeschooling, we can expect a minority of children to be reared by their mothers at home, and numerous restrictions on these freedom loving parents. Since the public school monster was not slain, it is no looking to expand its territory.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-6459432013530209312009-05-12T12:42:00.000-07:002009-05-12T12:42:00.000-07:00The only problem with socialized medicine is egali...The only problem with socialized medicine is egalitarianism. SM would be non-disastrous if private medicine weren't forbidden under it. By this scheme, taxes would support medical care for the indigent, thus no one would ever be without medical care; and private medicine could continue to make research gains and provide state-of-the-art care to those paying for it.<br /><br />Here the cry goes up from egalitarians: "That would mean some people will get better care than other people! The rich would purchase superior care! Everyone must be equal instead!" Thus the proposal under the aborted Hillary Clinton SM scheme of *jailing* private physicians and private payers. Cue the Soviet Army Band.<br /><br />The spectacle of an entire adult society consumed by an analogue of sibling rivalry isn't pretty. ("Mommy! Why does my brother always go first? It isn't fair!...Mommy! He has one more bean on his plate than I do! It isn't fair!" etc. ad infinitum.)<br /><br />Progress not only requires inequality, it is inequality. A hard truth is becoming clear in every field: Egalitarians - the products of arrested development - are a mortal foe of humanity.Davidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-23618464639049762242009-05-12T12:41:00.000-07:002009-05-12T12:41:00.000-07:00"In the white racial spectrum the Swedes are just ..."In the white racial spectrum the Swedes are just about the polar opposite of the Irish or Italians."<br /><br />And peaking of the Italians, Silvio Berlusconi has made some statements that have made some people upset. More, says I. <br /><br />http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/italy/5305030/Italy-does-not-want-to-become-multi-ethnic-says-Silvio-Berlusconi.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-20226267450832277482009-05-12T12:37:00.000-07:002009-05-12T12:37:00.000-07:00In re the marriage penalty: It seems to me that th...In re the marriage penalty: It seems to me that the smart thing to do nowadays would be for the man & woman to NOT get a government marriage certificate, and to game the system for 30 or 40 years, and then only get a government marriage certificate at the very end, right before death, for any possible inheritance tax purposes.<br /><br />Seriously - if you've got two people who can count on each other [not to run off with the baby-sitter, or with the tennis pro], then what exactly is the point of getting a government marriage certificate in this day and age?<br /><br />You can still exchange vows in a private religious ceremony to your hearts' content - I just don't see what good comes of formally registering your marriage with the government.<br /><br />[Heck, in this day and age, I am not entirely sure that I see what good comes of registering the births of your children with the government.]Lucius Vorenusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-83560470881582157102009-05-12T12:29:00.000-07:002009-05-12T12:29:00.000-07:00Steve, good analysis but you're not taking it far ...Steve, good analysis but you're not taking it far enough.<br /><br />First, most women are now unmarried. <A HREF="http://marketplace.publicradio.org/display/web/2007/01/16/us_census_single_women_outnumber_married/" REL="nofollow">link here</A>.<br /><br />This means not only do most women not have to take into consideration husbands, income, taxes, and the like, but they need childcare if they are middle to low income. Wealthy women can of course hire "Rosa the Illegal Salvadoran Nanny" to fill the kid with all sorts of horrid superstitions. That latter case is common among upper-income women. Which is one reason they support illegal immigration.<br /><br />This pattern (no marriages or greatly delayed marriages) insures fertility drops.<br /><br />Lucious Vorenus is quite correct, women are most fertile in their twenties, when they spend most of their time <A HREF="http://www.observer.com/2008/straight-women-new-york-citys-mating-market-worst-country" REL="nofollow">according to Richard Florida</A> chasing the highest status/quality men. When they do marry, it's in their mid-late thirties, with a fairly large number of sexual partners under their belts, reduced attractiveness, and a guy they obviously "settle" for (both know it and both partners resent it). Predictably these pairings don't last, but interestingly enough women are now seeming to forgo that step altogether and particularly among upper-income women have "designer eugenic yuppie babies" through IVF and sperm donors, ala Jodie Foster.<br /><br />For this class of women, wealthy, influential, powerful, "taste/opinion makers" pre-school is a must.<br /><br />Because of Demographics (more women than men, and women bloc voting) all throughout the West massive Welfare States were constructed, not out of conspiracies but because they meet female needs, which are vastly different to male needs.<br /><br />With marriage, and particularly marriage in their twenties (when it really matters in shaping opinions and economic interests) a thing of the past, because women don't NEED or WANT to get married anymore (particularly young professional women), society inevitably moves ever leftward.testing99noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-61682073508930790402009-05-12T11:44:00.000-07:002009-05-12T11:44:00.000-07:00Nice points about H. L. vs. Steve. Maybe Steve's ...Nice points about H. L. vs. Steve. Maybe Steve's approach is better for our time, given everybody's bias for niceness. It certainly works for me. A good-cop, bad-cop technique spanning the decades.Baloohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08245765878554696634noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-15172159063457387832009-05-12T10:47:00.000-07:002009-05-12T10:47:00.000-07:00My fear is first universal, then compulsory.
That ...<I>My fear is first universal, then compulsory.<br />That is not healthy.</I>It's not, but it will also lead to a lot of people waking up to the problem and taking the care of their children seriously, just like what happened with homeschooling.<br /><br />Think about this: anti-universal preschool activists had the sense to buy the domain.<br /><br />http://www.universalpreschool.com/<br /><br />That tells you everything you need to know about who is going to ultimately win out here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-34832817458147063362009-05-12T10:30:00.000-07:002009-05-12T10:30:00.000-07:00The government would prefer to take the kids from ...The government would prefer to take the kids from the maternity ward and have their raised by bureaucrats. To reach "equality." Like in the book "Brave New World."<br /><br />As to Mencken, he got it at least as far back as the 1920s. <A HREF="http://www.scribd.com/doc/9774882/Mencken-Democracy" REL="nofollow">HERE</A> is "Notes on Democracy". He isn't saying anything new, but is blackly cantankerous in style. If you only have time for a selection, start on p. 17 and read as far as you can.Davidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-18638711557591468022009-05-12T09:29:00.000-07:002009-05-12T09:29:00.000-07:00"Consider two couples. In one, both spouses earn $..."Consider two couples. In one, both spouses earn $50k, while in the other, the husband earns $100k while the wife stays at home to raise their small children. In the United States, both couples pay the same federal income tax..."<br /><br /><br />That's not correct - when two spouses have very similar incomes there is often a "marriage penalty" in the tax structure. A couple with a dual income of $100K will pay $19,002 in taxes whereas two individuals with $50K in income will pay $17,532. http://www.savewealth.com/news/9905/marriagepenalty.html<br /><br />The tax structure is set up to benefit those couples where one person makes a lot less than the other.<br /><br />This is one of the calculations people make when they decide to have one spouse stay home. The other big number in the calculation is how much full time and after school care costs. Unless a woman is bringing home at least $50-60K I really can't see the financial justification to work when you have young children. (Self disclosure - I worked full time until my oldest was 4 and pulled down a near-6 figure salary)Carolynnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-73421548341106713972009-05-12T09:23:00.000-07:002009-05-12T09:23:00.000-07:00I always love this quote, where Nisbett inadverten...I always love this quote, where Nisbett inadvertently concedes that intelligence is genetic:<br /><br /><I>About 25 percent of the genes in the American black population are European, meaning that the genes of any individual can range from 100 percent African to mostly European. If <B>European intelligence genes</B> are superior, then blacks who have relatively more European genes ought to have higher I.Q's than those who have more African genes.</I>ben tillmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-60496548464862504352009-05-12T09:03:00.000-07:002009-05-12T09:03:00.000-07:00The major unintended consequence of universal pres...The major unintended consequence of universal preschool will be the further incentivization of single motherhood.<br /><br />Expect a significant increase in white out-of-wedlock births if it passes.<br /><br />The people who can't stop patting themselves on the back for saving the world are actually destroying it.<br /><br />What else is new?Jack Burtonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-76420986729697881392009-05-12T08:29:00.000-07:002009-05-12T08:29:00.000-07:00To the Anonymous who called Mencken a "militant at...To the Anonymous who called Mencken a "militant atheist", please listen to this interview to hear what he actually thought. (I'd recommend listening to the entire interview, but this portion regards his views on religion)<br /><br />Starts at the 1:50 mark. <br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SytqXH6aQtwAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-88080841118220620672009-05-12T08:01:00.000-07:002009-05-12T08:01:00.000-07:00Silly Girl,
You are exactly right! Thats what I f...Silly Girl,<br /><br />You are exactly right! Thats what I fear. <br /><br />Universal Pre-K will be free for all at first, then it will be made compulsory later. They will use some "ruse" of course to do it, such as, "we have raised scores by so much, that its unfair to kids NOT in the program", etc. They will rig the tests to queer the scores or whatever, but my hypothesis remains the same........."they" want to take "your" (notice I put that in quotes) kids from you as quickly as possible, so they can get down to the important business of making sure the little white and yellow ones are no smarter than the black and brown ones. <br /><br /><br />Leftists in college (look up the University of Rhode Island dorm program and "Foundation for Individual Rights in Educaction-FIRE), were perfectly willing to instill a massive guilt complex on white students when given the chance. Well, in the past 30 years MANY leftists (Bill Ayers---watch some of this creature's stuff on YouTube, its enough to make you sick) have went into education and gotten the proper accredidation to be the administrators/teachers of youth of all ages. They didn't do this because they were interested in your kid being able to perform algebra and trig better, I assure you. Its so they can attempt to indoctrinate/instill a guilt complex on our youth. <br /><br /><br />I wouldn't trust a left-winger if he told me it was raining outside, and I could hear the rain on my roof, I'd still go check the window. MilesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com