tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post6897247475080886133..comments2024-03-27T18:24:19.683-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: "127 Hours"Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger43125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-78793370368338169692010-11-20T16:42:29.206-08:002010-11-20T16:42:29.206-08:00Italians, the only ones who will accurately recogn...<i>Italians, the only ones who will accurately recognize the name high percentages, will of course feel good about themselves.</i><br /><br />Italians, and the tens of millions of people who live in the Northeast Corridor, where we all become very familiar with everything Italian, whether we want to or not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-20581189964824682422010-11-19T12:00:47.870-08:002010-11-19T12:00:47.870-08:00Someone named Romano should know that Salvatore is...<i>Someone named Romano should know that Salvatore is definitely Italian. The Spanish equivalent would be Salvador.</i><br /><br />Maybe in a perfect world. Even assuming +1 or 2SD IQ for the average listener, many are distracted with news as background noise.<br /><br />I heard the radio report 2-3x driving and was distracted trying to place the guy's last name into some Indigian tribe of Mexico or Central America where I've lived.<br /><br />The word "Iowa" jumped out but far below in third place for my attention was the guys first name. I just assumed the announcer said "Salvador" because the ratio of Hispanic:Italian names in the MSM (esp NPR) is pretty skewed these days.<br /><br />Also, I know there are a lot of recent Hispanic immigrants now in Iowa ag industries like meat packing where wages have been gutted but virtually no Italian communities of any size.Salvatore Romanonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-9598761406010447552010-11-18T12:06:42.610-08:002010-11-18T12:06:42.610-08:00Someone named Romano should know that Salvatore is...Someone named Romano should know that Salvatore is definitely Italian. The Spanish equivalent would be Salvador.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-52585394676245117582010-11-18T10:40:15.314-08:002010-11-18T10:40:15.314-08:00On the radio yesterday I kept hearing the phrase &...On the radio yesterday I kept hearing the phrase "Salvatore Giunta from Iowa".<br /><br />I thought it was a good marketing ploy to select this guy out of the many no doubt deserving soliders.<br /><br />* The rubes from flyover country will hear Iowa and feel good about themselves<br /><br />* Hispanics ceaselessly propagandized to be more ethnocentric will hear "Salvatore" and feel good about themselves. If they even think about the curious last name they'd probably just dismiss it as some Indian variant.<br /><br />* Italians, the only ones who will accurately recognize the name high percentages, will of course feel good about themselves.<br /><br />He was chosen in no small part because he represents a good multicultural ethnic cipher.<br /><br />Obama's team could only increase their PC score if Salvatore later turns out to be GLBT too, but just can't tell yet.Salvatore Romanonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-91301619963390471252010-11-17T21:37:24.909-08:002010-11-17T21:37:24.909-08:00Ken Kesey gets my vote for the original tough guy ...Ken Kesey gets my vote for the original tough guy hippie. He was a star wrestler and football player in high school. Also the writer Edward Abbey comes to mind. As James Kabala mentioned, Kris Kristofferson, a member of Phi Betta Kappa and a Rhodes Scholar, definitely fits the mold. And, in Crazy Heart, Jeff Bridges does a better Kris Kristofferson than Kristofferson could do. They all possess <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uco41pOKeJg" rel="nofollow">true grit</a>.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-80447507936628361682010-11-17T17:59:36.316-08:002010-11-17T17:59:36.316-08:00I don't know if he actually engages in mountai...I don't know if he actually engages in mountain sports, but surely Kris Kristofferson is the archetypal "tough hippie."<br /><br />I agree that Obama is not as smart as many liberals think (or used to think), but I don't think he is dumb enough to mistake "Sal Giunta" for a Hispanic.James Kabalahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02335302113772004687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-72234323947025604622010-11-17T17:10:56.588-08:002010-11-17T17:10:56.588-08:00"The first rule of mountain climbing, backpac..."The first rule of mountain climbing, backpacking, hiking, etc. is to tell someone where you're going, what your itinerary is, what time you expect to be back. If Ralston did this simple task, he'd have both his arms today."<br /><br />Probably not. Ralston's arm was dead long before he cut it off so it isn't clear he ever could have saved it. Giving someone a detailed itinerary would have got Ralston out of the canyon sooner but it would not have done anything to prevent a boulder from rolling onto his arm. <br /><br />In the book, some of Ralston's activities strike me as reckless--for example him getting caught in an avalanche. But strolling down a fairly non-technical canyon by himself wasn't one of them.<br /><br />"A recent study found that climbers suffer posttraumatic stress disorder after severe injuries only one-seventh as much as soldiers and firemen do."<br /><br />I'd like to see this reference.Stevennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-30592847103660837702010-11-17T13:18:50.607-08:002010-11-17T13:18:50.607-08:00There's probably a 100 Italian guys in the Bos...There's probably a 100 Italian guys in the Boston or Broklyn phone book named "Sal Giunta". Unless he's a mix its not hispanic.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-49005663109228242462010-11-17T12:28:59.096-08:002010-11-17T12:28:59.096-08:00The archetype of the tough hippie matches a lot of...The archetype of the tough hippie matches a lot of the people I've climbed with over the last 25 years. The Stonemasters crew of California were the gold standard. John Bachar climbed thousands of feet of rock a day rope-less over very difficult vertical and sometimes overhanging terrain throughout Yosemite in the late 1970's and 80's. John Long, the ringleader, is someone few would pick a fight with either in his prime or now in his mid-50's. All those guys played hard and lived uncomfortably cheap to be able to do the amazing things they did on rock faces and mountains all over the world. They created the template for the rest of us uninterested in leading normal, productive lives right after graduation. <br /><br />People forget that so many hippies of yore were rugged individualists, untrusting of an intrusive federal government and were not very PC. They were natural entrepreneurs because they couldn't take orders and homesteaders who refused to live in polluted, urban hellholes. The "conservative" preppy males I grew up with exhibited far more feminine and domesticated qualities than most of the self-sufficient hippies I've come across.<br /><br />Ralston did what he had to do to survive after getting himself in a jam, but he is no hero. He happened to learn what we call "mountain sense" the hard way.Marc Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15526121114466617234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-36579961632018511422010-11-17T09:45:08.679-08:002010-11-17T09:45:08.679-08:00The guy is named Salvatore Giunta. How could anyon...The guy is named Salvatore Giunta. How could anyone mistake him for anything but an Italian?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-91782859300476818372010-11-17T06:33:25.415-08:002010-11-17T06:33:25.415-08:00Wade, you and the army of people in hate with Chri...<i>Wade, you and the army of people in hate with Chris McCandless don't get it.</i><br /><br />I said nothing about McCandless, my comments were about Aron Ralston. Maybe you have a reading comprehension problem? Remind me not to give you the topographic map.....<br /><br /><i>the only reason we do things like this is because we live by our own rules and do what we feel like doing.</i><br /><br />Really? Ego and bragging rights don't enter into the equation? Why do so many rock and mountain climbers have sponsorship deals with Patagonia, Mountain Hardwear, Feathered Friends, etc.? <br /><br />The cemetery is filled with people who died too young because they "live by their own rules and do what they feel like doing". <br /><br /><i>he wasn't trying to be a hero or a survivalist. He was just interested in living while he was [sic] aive.</i><br /><br />Going into the wilds of Alaska with insufficient food, and about zero knowledge of how to hunt or forage is not my idea of being interested in living.Wade Nicholsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-9401707741445633252010-11-17T05:16:49.652-08:002010-11-17T05:16:49.652-08:00Re "tough hippies" ...
I suspect there...Re "tough hippies" ... <br /><br />I suspect there may be lots of them out there. Years ago I went on a guided-backpacking-for-beginners trip in Wyoming and, via the guides, got a glimpse of a culture I'd never known about before: eco-hippie/stoners who make lives as wilderness tour guides. I got the impression that there may be thousands of them, drifting (during their 20s) from tour-guide job to tour-guide job, then maybe settling down in one place and working in administration (while still taking loads of breaks for solo treks, often daredevil ones, at least by my city-pussy standards) for some trekking organization if/when they want kids or a quieter life. They all seem to know each other and/or have heard of each other, and they seem to bump into each other often as they pass in the night. 99% of them may not qualify as awesome wanna-be Nietzschean superdudes, but they're mighty good in the wilderness, which is enough to make me think of them as pretty darned tough.Ray Sawhillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02434181069400646328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-85964037492673730052010-11-17T00:34:01.315-08:002010-11-17T00:34:01.315-08:00This was ALL about the politics, and the opportuni...<i>This was ALL about the politics, and the opportunity for the Bamster to go on national TV to burnish his barrio-homey street-cred, and the entire ridiculous charade blew up in his face - they had assumed that they were getting a graham cracker, but they got a soda cracker instead.</i><br /><br />I am with the other anon in saying this guy is of Italian heritage. I don't get your take on this that this is Obama trying to get cred with the hispanic community because the soldier is not hispanic.<br /><br />The guy got the medal because he deserved it. And yes, it is a big deal that a living person gets the MOH.<br /><br />Also, this did not blow up in the bamster's face because the MOH is not just given out. It usually takes years to approve. With Sal Giunta, his actions happened three years ago. So the thought that the administration thought they were getting a hispanic and were surprised that they got a white Italian is not believable. They have been reviewing this case for three years.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-69392050008204718732010-11-17T00:18:32.499-08:002010-11-17T00:18:32.499-08:00OT
Shiite. Our DNA may be 1-5% Neanderthal but it...OT<br /><br />Shiite. Our DNA may be 1-5% Neanderthal but it's 40% virus. <br /><br />http://discovermagazine.com/2010/jun/03-the-insanity-virus/article_view?b_start:int=2&-C=Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-23327068454670922622010-11-16T22:54:01.319-08:002010-11-16T22:54:01.319-08:00Right, because no one ever heard of "aborigin...<i>Right, because no one ever heard of "aboriginal" Hispanics being brave...</i> <br /><br />In your defense, I am going to assume that you live in a cave, and that you missed the wall-to-wall media coverage of the event today.<br /><br />It was the first CMoH ceremony for a living recipient in about 40 years, and I guaran-dadgum-tee you that if the guy's name hadn't been "Salvatore Giunta" - that if, instead, he had been named "Wile E. McWhiteBread" - then we would never even have heard of the dude.<br /><br />This was ALL about the politics, and the opportunity for the Bamster to go on national TV to burnish his barrio-homey street-cred, and the entire ridiculous charade blew up in his face - they had assumed that they were getting a graham cracker, but they got a soda cracker instead.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-29903610896749349972010-11-16T22:50:26.334-08:002010-11-16T22:50:26.334-08:00Tough Hippies: I know dudes who race and win this....Tough Hippies: <a href="http://www.greatdividerace.com/pages/home.html" rel="nofollow">I know dudes who race and win this</a>. Horrible politics, but tough as nails stoners.JermiahJohnbalayanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-81880318190777538652010-11-16T20:39:08.958-08:002010-11-16T20:39:08.958-08:00Example of a modern day 'tough hippie' for...Example of a modern day 'tough hippie' for those who don't believe the category exists...<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86Krv3gE-c4&feature=player_embeddedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-4243158234728744992010-11-16T19:59:21.651-08:002010-11-16T19:59:21.651-08:00example of non-condemnation of very non PC comment...example of non-condemnation of very non PC comments on africans in haaretz<br /><br />Several people called out from the audience, "We hate them, they are stealing everything they can, they behave like animals and they are chasing our girls."<br /><br />http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/south-tel-aviv-residents-call-for-expelling-foreigners-from-neighborhood-1.325092Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-34571808058776556832010-11-16T19:36:31.113-08:002010-11-16T19:36:31.113-08:00Um, what does Sal Giunta, who is an Italian Americ...Um, what does Sal Giunta, who is an Italian American, have to do with Hispanics, "aborginal" or not?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-87919906812296024922010-11-16T19:34:28.034-08:002010-11-16T19:34:28.034-08:00Um, what does Sal Giunta, who is of Italian descen...Um, what does Sal Giunta, who is of Italian descent, have to do with Hispanics, "aborginal" or not?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-42914518646495174902010-11-16T18:55:22.753-08:002010-11-16T18:55:22.753-08:00Wouldn't Jeff Bridges's character in The M...Wouldn't Jeff Bridges's character in The Men Who Stare at Goats be an example of a Tough Hippie?Frednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-21361531057453934632010-11-16T18:21:55.852-08:002010-11-16T18:21:55.852-08:00The Tough Hippie category is an interesting one. M...The Tough Hippie category is an interesting one. My organic farmer cousin is one. I remember hiking out of the bottom of the Grand Canyon when we were 12. He just vanished up the trail, reaching the top hours before my dad and me.<br /><br />There used to be movies backprojecting the 1960s into the history of the West, such as "Jeremiah Johnson," which argued, in effect, that the mountain men of the early 19th century were tough hippies. They were probably onto something.Steve Sailerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11920109042402850214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-22196563576967747512010-11-16T17:58:20.114-08:002010-11-16T17:58:20.114-08:00Yes, one thing I noticed with the Pat Tillman docu...Yes, one thing I noticed with the Pat Tillman documentary last summer was that he was kind of a northern California hippie-jock. His lawyer dad moved bought a house in the mountains above Silicon Valley in the early 1970s and the three Tillman brothers had an idyllic outdoor upbringing.Steve Sailerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11920109042402850214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-33461927448418023152010-11-16T16:34:20.829-08:002010-11-16T16:34:20.829-08:00Yes, there some hippie types in the mountains. Hav...Yes, there some hippie types in the mountains. Have you ever driven thru <br />Nederland Colorado? One of the strangest hippie types that I have met was on the Longs Peak Trail http://www.14ers.com/routemain.php?route=long1&peak=Longs+Peak . Longs peak is the tallest peak in Rocky Mountain National Park http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&tab=wl.<br />Here we were on the upper Boulder Field http://www.14ers.com/photos/longspeak/RLong_104.jpg and said hippie (20 something old ) says to me “ dude are you following me”? Maybe I was, as I did not know the route thru the boulder field and it looked to me like he knew where he was going. I said “maybe”. It was 6 o’clock in the morning and I had been on the go since 3:15 AM. I was a little tired and a little old (I am 60 plus 6 months). This peak was my 10th 14er, so I am not exactly a beginner. I had trained all summer on my stepper plus hiking 15 minute miles 4 to 5 times a week as part of my strategy to finally climb Longs Peak after first setting my eyes on the summit back in 1972 as a naive 22 year old. Anyway I met up with him again near the Keyhole for a rest stop. He pulls out a skleef and asks if I want a toke. I said no thank you as I thought that this was utter insanity to be stoned climbing a class 3 peak. Well to make a long story short; after I reached the top and rested, here comes the hippie type upon reaching the top ready for his rest. Conclusion: don’t underestimate the hippie types, they are one tough rugged type of individual.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-7462431544517130362010-11-16T15:46:34.588-08:002010-11-16T15:46:34.588-08:00"O/T: We talk a lot here about the difference...<i>"O/T: We talk a lot here about the difference between aboriginal hispanics and "Castilian/Hapsburgian" hispanics.<br /><br />Well check it out - the new hispanic quota CMoH just went to a cracker.<br /><br />Hilarious.<br /><br />Looks like the Bamster's advance team got the wool pulled over their eyes."</i><br /><br />Right, because no one ever heard of "aboriginal" Hispanics being brave (this, less than a week after Antonio Margarito, in typical Mexican fashion, refused to quit despite getting a lopsided beating by the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world). Take a minute to read the Medal of Honor citation for <a href="http://www.valorremembered.org/RPB_MOHCitation.htm" rel="nofollow">Master Sergeant Roy Benavidez</a>. I challenge you to find anyone more worth of the medal than him.Davenoreply@blogger.com