tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post7165894187204964616..comments2024-03-19T02:31:02.140-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: Olympic basketballUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-24699881771276957402008-08-28T14:50:00.000-07:002008-08-28T14:50:00.000-07:00"Racist punk John Thompson (how many white kids we..."Racist punk John Thompson (how many white kids were good enough to play for his teams?)"<BR/><BR/>Actually, I don't know John Thompson so I have no reason to believe he is a racist. I think the proper question would be "how many white players that were good enough to play for his teams wanted to." Forty minutes of pressure defense, intentional flagrant fouls, and 15 passes before throwing the ball to the center probably did not appeal to many star whites in the 1980s. Thompson had white players, and he tried to recruit Rex Chapman, Christian Laetner and Mark Price.<BR/><BR/>http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many<BR/>_white_players_played_under_John_<BR/>Thompson_Sr_at_Georgetown<BR/><BR/>As far as whether his teams were overrated:<BR/><BR/>"Inheriting a Georgetown team which had been just 3-23 the year before, Thompson quickly and dramatically improved the team, making the NCAA tournament within three seasons. Over the following 27 years, Thompson's Hoyas went an impressive 596-239 (.714), running off a streak of 24 postseason appearances - 20 in the NCAA tournament, four in the NIT - including a 14-year streak of NCAA appearances from 1979-1992 that saw three Final Four appearances in 1982, 1984 and 1985, winning a National Championship in 1984 and narrowly missing a repeat the next year by losing to underdog Villanova.<BR/>Thompson still holds conference records for most overall Big East wins (231), most regular-season Big East wins (198) and conference championships (seven regular season, six tournaments). He won seven Coach of the Year awards: Big East (1980, 1987, 1992), United States Basketball Writers Association and The Sporting News (1984), National Association of Basketball Coaches (1985) and United Press International (1987).<BR/> -WikipediaTruthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-27083267972685772322008-08-28T13:54:00.000-07:002008-08-28T13:54:00.000-07:00One point in defense of the 2004 U.S. men's basket...One point in defense of the 2004 U.S. men's basketball team: many white fans in the U.S. were quick to blame the failure on Allen Iverson, who embodies everything white Middle America dislikes in the mocern NBA (the dreadloocks, the tattoos, the attitude, et al.)<BR/><BR/>I'm not a fan of Iverson, but give the man a little credit. First, he actually SHOWED UP for the Olympics, when a lot of other NBA stars couldn't be bothered. He also played hurt, ignoring a broken thumb the whole time.<BR/><BR/>He's not my idea of a great role model, he's not someone I'd want to hang out with, and he's not a guy I'd want to build my team around. But whatever you think of his fashion sense or his lifestyle, you have to admit he is NOT the reason the U.S. team lost in 2004.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-29928237963369698792008-08-28T08:02:00.000-07:002008-08-28T08:02:00.000-07:00Unless a US athlete has done something that causes...Unless a US athlete has done something that causes me to root against him, my default position is to root for him. Ethnicity is not stronger for me that country.<BR/><BR/>In social situations, age is a better predictor of connection than race for most people. When abroad, the cultural similarity of another American, or failing that, someone from another Anglospheric country, trumps shared haplotype. I mean, Swedes look nice, but they're pretty irritating.<BR/><BR/>I root against the French and the Russians.Assistant Village Idiothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01978011985085795099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-36926058913269847472008-08-27T22:21:00.000-07:002008-08-27T22:21:00.000-07:00His mother raised 6 kids after she and her baby da...<I>His mother raised 6 kids after she and her baby daddy snuck into America. Swell...</I><BR/><BR/>She has 6 children, not one. Therefore, you can't use the term "baby daddy" here.<BR/><BR/>"Baby daddy" is a transcription of the pronunciation of "baby's daddy" that is common in African-American dialects. It doesn't work the way you're trying to use it. <BR/><BR/>It's as if you've never been around black people.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-80291534885308392672008-08-27T21:52:00.000-07:002008-08-27T21:52:00.000-07:00I was amused to read about how seriously the curre...<I>I was amused to read about how seriously the current US team took things, huddling up and praying and stuff. :)</I><BR/><BR/>You crossed the line with that comment.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-66946873730685385872008-08-27T20:04:00.000-07:002008-08-27T20:04:00.000-07:00The medal-winning high jumpers tend to be whites w...The medal-winning high jumpers tend to be whites with the spindly frames of Nilotics. In fact, that's what British colonial officials first tried to teach Nilotic Kenyans to do in track and field: the high jump. They looked perfect for it, but they couldn't seem to get the hang of it. Only later did they discover how good they were at running.Steve Sailerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11920109042402850214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-20152454219579518552008-08-27T19:51:00.000-07:002008-08-27T19:51:00.000-07:00"White men can't jump." Steve what's your take on..."White men can't jump." Steve what's your take on the two Russians getting gold and bronze in the high jump.<BR/><BR/>Kent GatewoodAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-47006245461334498532008-08-27T18:11:00.000-07:002008-08-27T18:11:00.000-07:00Steve is about 30% right.Racist punk John Thompson...Steve is about 30% right.<BR/><BR/>Racist punk John Thompson (how many white kids were good enough to play for his teams?)learned at the knee of the greatest basketball coach and motivator ever, Arnold "Red" Auerbach. The 50's-60's era Boston Celtics success started with team defense, led by the greatest defensive force in the game's history, Bill Russell. But, unlike Thompson, shooters like Bill Heinsohn, Easy Ed Macauley, Sam Jones, Don Nelson and Bob Cousy made the Celtics go. Does anyone really think it was defense alone that won them 11 championships in 13 years?<BR/><BR/>Unfortunately, Thompson's overrated Hoyas never had anyone very adept (Reggie Williams, college version, aside) at putting the orange thing through the hoop. Thus, one championship with the steady stream of McDonald's High School All Americans that matriculated there is pretty lame. He brought the same ideas to the Olympics, with Hershey Hawkins as pretty much the only guy on the roster who could shoot, with the dismal if predictable results.<BR/><BR/>Speaking of the intrnational game and shooting 3's, Google Oscar Schmidt. He was a Brazilian who beat the US by himself in the '87 PanAm games, which showed the rest of the world how it was done.<BR/><BR/>BrutusAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-73906177848905613622008-08-27T16:49:00.000-07:002008-08-27T16:49:00.000-07:00I was like Josh and was rooting against the U.S. t...<I>I was like Josh and was rooting against the U.S. team. (Ethnicity is a stronger bond than country.)</I><BR/><BR/>If this is true, the U.S. is then doomed as balkanization would be inevitable.<BR/><BR/>Also, if ethnicity trumps country, why are you reading the blog of Steve Sailer, an unabashed "citizenist?" American Renaissance is right around the corner.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-31593363148207129992008-08-27T16:43:00.000-07:002008-08-27T16:43:00.000-07:00I truly was rooting fro Spain as I would have like...<I>I truly was rooting fro Spain as I would have liked to have seen these NBA stars beaten when they are going all out and trying their best. I guess I'm a bad guy. Worse,I regret the Mexican-American wrestler who won the gold. His mother raised 6 kids after she and her baby daddy snuck into America. Swell...<BR/></I><BR/><BR/>Okay. You resent the Mexican-American wrestler because his parents supposedly immigrated to America illegally. What is your reasoning for regretting the success of the U.S. basketball team's players? Did their parents illegally swim the Atlantic Ocean and sneak onto the shores of South Carolina?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-88176452784757098512008-08-27T15:47:00.000-07:002008-08-27T15:47:00.000-07:00btw- it pisses me off that some posters were rooti...btw- it pisses me off that some posters were rooting for Spain, Greece, etc. As much as we complain on this site about the state of the US- we're still Americans. I'm a huge believer in love it or leave it....which could very well mean I will be leaving in a few years, but stillmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15560748812217517307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-7329618660136114902008-08-27T15:43:00.000-07:002008-08-27T15:43:00.000-07:00At the same time the JEWISH new eliteAw cripes, NO...<I>At the same time the JEWISH new elite</I><BR/><BR/>Aw cripes, NOW you've done it!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-36371832841196948502008-08-27T15:42:00.000-07:002008-08-27T15:42:00.000-07:00The WASP old eliteGird yourself for the swarm of "...<I>The WASP old elite</I><BR/><BR/>Gird yourself for the swarm of "WASPs" who won't be buzzing here to defend their racial honor.<BR/><BR/>Now, call out Jews, <I>then</I> you'll see "WASPs" swarming to defend someone's racial honor.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-20564895721888065612008-08-27T15:38:00.000-07:002008-08-27T15:38:00.000-07:00I haven't had anything new to sayI had pretty much...<I>I haven't had anything new to say</I><BR/><BR/>I had pretty much the same reaction. I enjoyed the hell out of the fact that a podunk European team beat the US team, but it isn't exactly news when the reverse happens.<BR/><BR/>It wouldn't be news if the racial angle was removed, either.<BR/><BR/>I was amused to read about how seriously the current US team took things, huddling up and praying and stuff. :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-71960786434955084992008-08-27T14:49:00.000-07:002008-08-27T14:49:00.000-07:00I was like Josh and was rooting against the U.S. t...I was like Josh and was rooting against the U.S. team. (Ethnicity is a stronger bond than country.) And supposedly that now that there is some kind of brain scan that can tell one's "true" feelings about things (see recent Atlantic article), it would be interesting to see how many white Americans who claimed to be rooting for the African-American U.S. team were actually rooting against them in their heart of hearts. I bet it was a quite high percentage (maybe as high as false self-reporting gets).<BR/><BR/>TreyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-27347068253282208152008-08-27T12:49:00.000-07:002008-08-27T12:49:00.000-07:00Steve's right about Georgetown's defense. It wasn'...Steve's right about Georgetown's defense. It wasn't just Ewing but also Gene Smith, Eric Smith, Ed Spriggs, Craig Duren, Reggie Williams, David Wingate, etc. Thompson preached the importance of full court man-to-man and his very athletic players bought into it. Final Four 1984- they held an awesome Kentucky team with Sam Bowie and Mel Turpin (#2 and #6 picks in draft) to 9% shooting in the second half. <BR/><BR/>Thompson then went on to blow the 1988 Olymic games and ushered in the Dream Team, which I hated. Was much more fun to win with- or try to win- with college players- a bronze would be worth something- shame. <BR/><BR/>But once again, Steve right- anonymous poster wrong.mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15560748812217517307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-71879269726079535702008-08-27T11:04:00.000-07:002008-08-27T11:04:00.000-07:00Wow! I didn't know Darryl Dawkins was so articulat...Wow! I didn't know Darryl Dawkins was so articulate. Whoops, can't say that. No, no, that's no what I meant. Um, what I meant is, shouldn't he be running for president?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-87127908401567741162008-08-27T09:54:00.000-07:002008-08-27T09:54:00.000-07:00Steve,This is very off-topic, but I'm curious what...Steve,<BR/><BR/>This is very off-topic, but I'm curious what you think about this ad:<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEeHl0h3NBo" REL="nofollow">Obama - Ayers ad</A><BR/><BR/>It connects Obama to William Ayers. You probably know more about Obama than 99.9% of journalists/bloggers/etc. Do you think that this ad is accurate? Fair?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-35491474947581847662008-08-27T09:53:00.000-07:002008-08-27T09:53:00.000-07:00Steve--Ewing et al. invented defense???Good grief ...Steve--<BR/>Ewing et al. invented defense???<BR/><BR/>Good grief Steve, you seriously haven't heard of Bill Russell???<BR/>With what, 11 titles in 13 years or so?<BR/><BR/>Jeez, more laughable comments like that and readers' skepticism will follow over to your otherwise very insightful comments on human biodiversity.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-37890308497504225752008-08-27T09:09:00.000-07:002008-08-27T09:09:00.000-07:00Just wondering: Rick Telander in the Chi Sun-Times...Just wondering: Rick Telander in the Chi Sun-Times once "imagined' that Michael made his big comeback after a huge round of steroid injections.Now we hear Dwayne Wade's knee was trashed and he"did something I never did before" he said,that is hit the weight room and bomb his knee with weight training. Now he is back and healthy. Does the name Andy Pettitte ring a bell? I truly was rooting fro Spain as I would have liked to have seen these NBA stars beaten when they are going all out and trying their best. I guess I'm a bad guy. Worse,I regret the Mexican-American wrestler who won the gold. His mother raised 6 kids after she and her baby daddy snuck into America. Swell...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-48873720128772910262008-08-27T08:17:00.000-07:002008-08-27T08:17:00.000-07:00Everything went so well for the U.S. team this yea...Everything went so well for the U.S. team this year, so well that I hate to be a spoilsport.<BR/><BR/>I don't think the problem with previous U.S. squads was a "selfish" style of basketball. Rather, I think recent teams have been both badly conceived and undercoached.<BR/><BR/>In the international game, zone defenses are legal and common. The only ways to beat the zone are:<BR/><BR/>1) Have a dominant, physical center who can impose his will on defenses<BR/><BR/>2) Have plenty of guys who can hit the easy 3 point jump shots that the zone allows.<BR/><BR/>Recent U.S. teams, INCLUDING the victorious "Redeem Team," have had neither of those things. We've been overloaded on small forwards and point guards who can't hit jump shots and can't play much defense.<BR/><BR/>Yes, we won the medal this time, and usually won by large amounts. But troubling weaknesses were still evident. Our 3-point shooting was often woeful, we were out-rebounded by the likes of Angola, and we allowed WAY too many easy points with our slack defense.<BR/><BR/>It's gratifying that so many top players were willing to put in the time and effort necessary to build a championship team. Let's face it- the world has caught up, and we'll NEVER again be able to win with an All-Star team tossed together at the last minute.<BR/><BR/>But unless future teams are better constructed (with a REAL center, some decent outside shooters, and some defensive specialists), we will definitely be embarrassed again, before long.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-44250177060089061242008-08-27T06:14:00.000-07:002008-08-27T06:14:00.000-07:00Steve, I'm a fan, but it is just a load of crap to...<I>Steve, I'm a fan, but it is just a load of crap to say that John Thompson's and Patrick Ewing's Georgetown teams transformed black players' (and the NBA's) attitudes about defense and laid the groundwork for the 1992 Dream Team. The conventional wisdom is that the thuggish Detroit Pistons' championships in 1989 and 1990 killed off the Lakers-"Showtime" ethos of the league, and this is one case where the CW makes a lot more sense than you do.</I><BR/><BR/>The Hoyas' success pre-dates the great run by the Pistons in the late 80's and early 90's. Steve is right. Georgetown did change the game of basketball much like the success of the Miami Hurricane football team in the 80's changed the game of football by placing increased importance on speed and quickness.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-44765390004577141762008-08-27T06:11:00.000-07:002008-08-27T06:11:00.000-07:00You know your assertion was made explicitly in "wh...You know your assertion was made explicitly in "white men can't jump."<BR/><BR/>This USA team, by the way could pass and could shoot. The only reason their shooting looked bad, is that one of their worst outside shooters, Kobe, was taking way too many of their threes. Kobe has some weird psychology. It seems he wanted to show that he could sacrifice his stardom and be a catch-and-shoot role player (a role for which he was not well suited).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-20986385797958243492008-08-27T02:30:00.000-07:002008-08-27T02:30:00.000-07:00All would be well and good with your article excep...All would be well and good with your article except for the fact that the whole world will now start playing more like NBA "rap stars" and less like a basketball team with the rule change to a smaller zone and a larger arc:<BR/><BR/>http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/26/sports/olympics/26hoops.html?ref=basketballAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-66800872590039321472008-08-27T01:20:00.000-07:002008-08-27T01:20:00.000-07:00As a lifelong Philadelphian, who had posters of Ch...As a lifelong Philadelphian, who had posters of Chocolate Thunder on my wall (WOW! I'm old enough to remember when Nike's "Air Force One's" first came out!), I have to say that Dawkins is 100% correct. And I don't say that w/any measure of glee, but w/sadness. <BR/><BR/>I'm solidly working class, as is the case historically and to a large extent even today w/many in Philly. On my job I'm part of a team who is the fastest, most accurate production line in the entire plant. Simply put, we can do any job faster and better than anyone else. <BR/><BR/>The reason? There are two. <BR/><BR/>One is because we have extremely talented people at every position on my line; for example, the machine I operate, while more than two decades old, can outproduce more than the other team about 25 yards away from us, who has twice s many men and a state of the art machine that was just delivered onsite less than three months ago. No one can operate the machine as fast AND accurate as I can. And that holds true for the rest of my team members. <BR/><BR/>And two, we've closely worked together for years as a cohesive unit. Teamwork, matters, no matter how individually talented you may be. In fact, and sports continually proves this all the time, its better to have less talented people working tightly as a team, than a bunch of highly talented, but selfish, narcissitic guys who are more a harm to the goal of winning than anything else. <BR/><BR/>So again, Dawkins is right on the money. We all could stand to learn something from the original NBA Dream Team. I know I always do.<BR/><BR/>Salaam<BR/>MuMu'Min M. Beyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13764965842337428939noreply@blogger.com