tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post7260562379702329968..comments2024-03-27T18:24:19.683-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: David Brooks's "The Social Animal"Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger63125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-5327516197929668052011-03-15T21:16:52.286-07:002011-03-15T21:16:52.286-07:00Mel, got your message, and don't give up! You...Mel, got your message, and don't give up! You could still take voice lessons and become a crooner.Wesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-83807297354388074762011-03-15T21:07:48.171-07:002011-03-15T21:07:48.171-07:00"Luke Lea said...
As Mary Peretz once pointe..."Luke Lea said...<br /><br />As Mary Peretz once pointed out,...."<br /><br />A comment on Marty's ........ proclivities?Mr. Anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-91566702005012487992011-03-15T20:05:59.454-07:002011-03-15T20:05:59.454-07:00Wes, in case you still are looking at this thread:...Wes, in case you still are looking at this thread:<br /><br />Yes, I am alive and kicking, but, unfortunately for you, I'm not the same velvet fog that you are probably thinking of. <br /><br />2nd, sure I, myself, would wear a Ann Rand (or even "Ayn" Rand, with the gay spelling) T-shirt over a Tom Wolfe one. That's due to her political views, which mean more to people than any political views of Tom Wolfe. So, anyway, I like her views, but I just can't read books like that. It's not like we have only limited reading material around and need to kill time.Mel Tormenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-76371181927970018082011-03-15T17:33:01.388-07:002011-03-15T17:33:01.388-07:00Politically, they are naive.
Hilarious to anyone ...<i>Politically, they are naive.</i><br /><br />Hilarious to anyone paying attention to the media-cultural skullduggery they've been up to for 50 years.Svigorhttp://majorityrights.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-66004099461025199322011-03-15T12:00:54.458-07:002011-03-15T12:00:54.458-07:00"No one dismissed Kant or Satre because of th..."No one dismissed Kant or Satre because of their personal lives."<br /><br />Are you kidding? Many have attacked Sartre for his personal life.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-39915077262195597412011-03-15T11:59:56.988-07:002011-03-15T11:59:56.988-07:00"Jewish-American women are getting romantical..."Jewish-American women are getting romantically hammered by Tiger Women."<br /><br />...which means Tiger Women are being nailed by Jewish Men.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-61830005686722975252011-03-15T09:36:26.733-07:002011-03-15T09:36:26.733-07:00@Anonymous,
Your comment, which began "But m...@Anonymous,<br /><br />Your comment, which began <i>"But maybe this was the problem. Boomers may have turned out okay but they were raised too permissively, in a 'take it easy' way, and this attitude spread far and wide...."</i> was just excellent in its entirety. Thanks.Kylienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-25647239933433194122011-03-15T08:50:32.093-07:002011-03-15T08:50:32.093-07:00Quoting Wes: "With regard to Jewish support f...Quoting Wes: "With regard to Jewish support for mass immigration and multiculturalism, on one level I understand their arguments for it (from their perspective), but ultimately it seems like the stupidest thing they have done in 50 years. Boneheaded. <br /><br />They are undermining the very societies that allow them to prosper. I think many are starting to realize it, but sadly it is probably too late."<br /><br />Too say nothing of the fact that immigration may be undermining America's long-term popular support for the state of Israel, which is in large measure a white, Protestant, working-class phenomenon.<br /><br />As Mary Peretz once pointed out, Jews seem to be good at everything except government. Politically, they are naive.<br /><br />For a good history of the problem see, "The Fatal Embrace."Luke Leahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11290760894780619646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-16029875846896439722011-03-15T08:22:42.462-07:002011-03-15T08:22:42.462-07:00The first "didactic novel" that I can th...The first "didactic novel" that I can think of is the "Andromeda Strain", written in 1969. True it wasn't "science nonfiction", but I think Crichton wanted readers to consider the real possibility that disease could come from outer space.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-33113905706955684352011-03-15T07:34:33.874-07:002011-03-15T07:34:33.874-07:00"I am sure the literati hate Ayn Rand, but as...<i>"I am sure the literati hate Ayn Rand, but as to who has sold more books, I have no idea. The bookshelves seemed to be stacked with tons of Rand stuff ... Wolfe, not so much. I've never seen anyone walking around with a Tom Wolfe shirt on."</i><br /><br />What bookstores? Libertarian bookstores? T-shirts? Seriously? WTF?<br /><br />If you are talking about cult status, no doubt Rand wins, because she was a dogmatic writer with a political cult following (buy the t-shirt!). If you are talking about her quality as a writer, it isn't even close. She is horrificly bad. <br /><br />No one would be reading Rand's novels today if it weren't for her political cult. Tom Wolfe earned his best selling reputation without having to rely on a political cult to back him up. His novels will be read long after he is dead because they are worth reading as literature, not as polemic.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-39507958733774554212011-03-15T07:22:03.187-07:002011-03-15T07:22:03.187-07:00"Kiwiguy said...
"***What's up with..."Kiwiguy said...<br /><br />"***What's up with Tom Wolfe worship in HBD circles?***"<br /><br />Probably because he identifies underlying ethnic conflicts and behavioural differences."<br /><br />Also because he writes about real things of real importance, rather than so many modern novelists, whose work consists largely of literary masturbation.Mr. Anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-51586690052339044382011-03-15T07:21:18.097-07:002011-03-15T07:21:18.097-07:00"Jews did better under Anglo supremacy (in th...<i>"Jews did better under Anglo supremacy (in the U.S. and before that in Britain) than anywhere else in modern times. Why would they want to subvert that? It doesn't make sense. It's also not obvious how flooding the country with high-IQ Asians helps Jews. Jews are smarter than average, but not so smart that most Jews aren't hurt by the increased competition -- they are (which is why you hear some of them complaining about Tiger Moms)."</i><br /><br />Perhaps it is time that you acquainted yourself with the fable of the scorpion and the frog.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-24042884354771991632011-03-15T02:53:46.099-07:002011-03-15T02:53:46.099-07:00Jewish-American kids are now getting academically ...Jewish-American kids are now getting academically hammered by Tiger Kids. Jewish-American women are getting romantically hammered by Tiger Women. Younger Jewish-American professionals are getting economically hammered by Tiger workers. Jewish-Americans will eventually get politically hammered by a bankrupt, NAM-dominated U.S. that doesn't give a damn about Israel - and wonders why there are so many Jewish names in the American power/wealth aristocracy. In the future, Jewish-Americans will likely get literally hammered by anti-semitic buffoons from Trashcanistan and Crapistan (as they already seem to be in parts of Europe). <br /><br />I'm not holding all Jewish-Americans accountable for this, but your leaders (and ours) have done everything possible to get us here. <br /><br />My advice: Bend over and take it. Take it the way that the rest of us are. <br /><br />Oh - and 1 more thing. Don't forget to thank David Brooks. The man is nothing if not an "intellectual."Hope and Changenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-41526310748468897012011-03-14T23:49:07.905-07:002011-03-14T23:49:07.905-07:00With regard to Jewish support for mass immigration...With regard to Jewish support for mass immigration and multiculturalism, on one level I understand their arguments for it (from their perspective), but ultimately it seems like the stupidest thing they have done in 50 years. Boneheaded. <br /><br />They are undermining the very societies that allow them to prosper. I think many are starting to realize it, but sadly it is probably too late.Wesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-55725285324418969182011-03-14T23:46:17.716-07:002011-03-14T23:46:17.716-07:00I never understand why Ayn Rand is held to a diffe...I never understand why Ayn Rand is held to a different standard than any other writer. I am sure she had personality issues and could be cruel. So what?<br /><br />No one dismissed Kant or Satre because of their personal lives. How much bizarre dirt could we dig up on those two? For the most part we separate their personal lives from their professional writings. It's strange to me that anti-Randians get so worked up on the issue. Maybe it's a reaction to the overly enthusiastic Rand-fans. <br /><br />But I don't see how anyone can deny the emotionalism of Wolfe's writing, and how it is distracting. He tells us more about how impressed he is with astronauts than telling us impressive things about them. He makes the book ultimately about him and how he feels.Wesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-38709033698510192702011-03-14T23:35:16.952-07:002011-03-14T23:35:16.952-07:00But I have to agree with Ayn Rand on this one: Wol...<i>But I have to agree with Ayn Rand on this one: Wolfe tells us more about what he is feeling than what is actually happening. He endlessly gives us his emotional summation of events, not so much the events themselves</i><br /><br />She's one to talk. She built her entire philosophy around nothing more than her feelings of what proper conduct should consist of. You can tell it was all feelings by her furious denunciations of anyone who dared question her. And I'm not sure she ever even tried her hand at writing about anything that actually occurs in the real world. <br /><br />Realistically, she probably just disliked Tom Wolfe because what he was writing cut too close to home about what was actually occurring. Kinda like Dave Brooks.Silvernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-34396387990830126862011-03-14T22:33:12.156-07:002011-03-14T22:33:12.156-07:00In Jamaica the half Chinese / half black folks kic...In Jamaica the half Chinese / half black folks kick a lot of ass. <br /><br /><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Jamaican" rel="nofollow">See the list.</a><br /><br />20k and a lot of notables.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-21309894889510548912011-03-14T21:08:42.556-07:002011-03-14T21:08:42.556-07:00Good try Steve. You tried to make David Brooks int...Good try Steve. You tried to make David Brooks interesting but failed. Even you can't do the impossible.<br /><br />Why is it that any drone becomes a figure of national importance because Pinch Sulzberger gives them a job?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-77190394995821979072011-03-14T20:37:39.301-07:002011-03-14T20:37:39.301-07:00Mel Torme, I didn't know you were still alive!...Mel Torme, I didn't know you were still alive! Cool.<br /><br />I am sure the literati hate Ayn Rand, but as to who has sold more books, I have no idea. The bookshelves seemed to be stacked with tons of Rand stuff ... Wolfe, not so much. I've never seen anyone walking around with a Tom Wolfe shirt on.<br /><br />And I think the issue is not <i>who</i> is doing the criticizing but the criticism itself, in other words it's not some mano-a-mano contest. I was just referencing her because it was the best summation of what bugs me about Wolfe I have read. She had a very deep knowledge of literature. Real literature, not the stuff that gets written today.<br /><br />Actually, I thought the Fountainhead was pretty cool. Now, she was from the old school of Russian novels, so it would have to be tightened up if it was written today. Although people read those long winded fantasy novels that go over 1,000 pages, so maybe not.Wesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-72723907518834237092011-03-14T20:28:14.402-07:002011-03-14T20:28:14.402-07:00Agree with Steve's review, but I think Krugman...Agree with Steve's review, but I think Krugman and Co. like their jobs and are genuinely lying. Do you think any of them would send their kids to Harlem schools?SFGnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-85363374682963819682011-03-14T19:20:17.602-07:002011-03-14T19:20:17.602-07:00***What's up with Tom Wolfe worship in HBD cir...***What's up with Tom Wolfe worship in HBD circles?***<br /><br />Probably because he identifies underlying ethnic conflicts and behavioural differences.Kiwiguynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-48443276433765533192011-03-14T19:14:01.112-07:002011-03-14T19:14:01.112-07:00This book review is hilarious, A Chinese-Mexican k...This book review is hilarious, A Chinese-Mexican kid from the ghetto? Yes, straight out of Political Correctness 101. There may be Asian-Hispanic mixes in California but my guess would be they happen when upwardly mobile Hispanics marry similar Asians, not poor Hispanics marrying poor Asians like in the book. I wonder if there is a connection? <br /><br />Additionally I love the bit about Krugman and his tirade against Texas, how can anyone like him consider themselves scholarly when the ignore the demographic makeup of the respective states when making those comparisons? Uhhh, hey Paul, Wisconsin is 4% black and 4% Hispanic whereas Texas is 12% and 30% respectively, and by the way how does heavily unionized Detroit do with their public schools? Not so good from what I hear in the NYT yesterday when the writer of a piece on Detroit schools wonders aloud why standardized math scores have hit an all time low since starting 21 years ago and then mentions a few paragraphs later that the schools are now 95% African-American. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-61737067539096783902011-03-14T19:02:58.944-07:002011-03-14T19:02:58.944-07:00Yeah, let's fundraise so much that we can buy ...Yeah, let's fundraise so much that we can buy the New York Times. Then put Steve in charge of running the paper. That'd be fun. <br /><br />Seriously, why can't some rich conservative family buy up one of these papers and run a bunch of columns from Pat Buchanan, Sailer, the American Conservative magazine guys, Randall Parker, John Derbyshire, etc? <br /><br />I remember when the NRR guy Schiller recently got caught making those damning statements, he claimed that most of the big American papers were owned by "Zionists" and the "pro-Israel" peole (his words). It'd be nice if some pro-America people bought up a couple papers too. <br /><br />Actually, screw it. Why should an American paper have a pro-American bias?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-56289676363002527772011-03-14T18:50:06.726-07:002011-03-14T18:50:06.726-07:00Funniest part of Brooks' book is the notion th...Funniest part of Brooks' book is the notion that the Iraq War proves that intelligence isn't everything. If Brooks means intelligence as in information gathering--what CIA does--, he has a point. But if he means 'use of higher reason', Iraq War was one of the most dogmatic and/or stupid ventures in American history. The data was cherry-picked and distorted to make Americans believe Hussein was building nukes! Neocons shelved their intelligence--ability to think rationally--and went with their dogmatic devotion to Israel. Democracy-builders threw caution to the wind and figured Iraq could be remade into a happy democracy. <br />Some anti-war critics said Bush was too dumb to lead this war, but it was precisely people like Brooks who said that intelligence isn't everything. Bush may not be the smartest guy in the room, but he's a good guy, a tough guy, a committed guy, a man of common sense, blah blah blah, and that's enough for him to be a great war president. In fact, recent history of the GOP has been one of clever Jewish neocons looking for dumb goyboys to do their bidding. <br /><br />For someone who supported Bush all these yrs, I find it funny that Brooks of all people would be telling us that intelligence isn't that important. Iraq War was the product of willful stupidity, not cautious intelligence. It was the failure produced by low intelligence(or at least willful stupidity), not high intelligence.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-63856411938533833022011-03-14T18:35:35.177-07:002011-03-14T18:35:35.177-07:00He keeps this up and David Brooks will be a funnie...He keeps this up and David Brooks will be a funnier guy than Mel Brooks. History of the World Pt II.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com