tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post7447152434906558508..comments2024-03-28T16:22:14.888-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: Meanwhile ...Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger88125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-42932647202059839752012-06-18T17:42:56.363-07:002012-06-18T17:42:56.363-07:00"Albert Sabin said...
A question for all of t..."Albert Sabin said...<br />A question for all of the commenters here assuming Shmuel Rosner is a hypocrite for advocating immigration restriction in Israel: Do you know if he advocates the opposite for the US? If not, then maybe it's your own prejudice fueling claims of his hypocrisy. Why not find out the facts first?"<br /><br />He could be among the 0% of Jewish mainstream media pundits who advocate immigration restriction.ATBOTLnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-46658653079183286772012-06-18T08:14:04.486-07:002012-06-18T08:14:04.486-07:00http://slatest.slate.com/posts/2012/06/16/lisa_bro...http://slatest.slate.com/posts/2012/06/16/lisa_brown_michigan_lawmaker_banned_for_saying_vagina_will_perform_vagina_monologues.html<br /><br /><br />how about starring in porn.<br />btw, how would liberals react if a politician detailed the nature of gay sex involving the anus? or details of what abortion does to the unborn? I'll bet libs will want him/her censured.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-67305405791606135462012-06-18T07:06:03.264-07:002012-06-18T07:06:03.264-07:00Nobody felt moved to comment on it? Looks like the...<i>Nobody felt moved to comment on it? Looks like the time doesn't want people's views on this matter to be known.</i><br />NPR is worse - they will open comments then quietly prune them after closing them to make it look like most people favored whatever SWPL thing they were advocating.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-69469210813001874652012-06-17T23:34:06.890-07:002012-06-17T23:34:06.890-07:00Johnthenationalist:
Not to be pedantic, but there...Johnthenationalist:<br /><br />Not to be pedantic, but there are three big nations in North America.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-74067352679946044062012-06-17T20:11:38.174-07:002012-06-17T20:11:38.174-07:00A question for all of the commenters here assuming...<i>A question for all of the commenters here assuming Shmuel Rosner is a hypocrite for advocating immigration restriction in Israel: Do you know if he advocates the opposite for the US? If not, then maybe it's your own prejudice fueling claims of his hypocrisy. Why not find out the facts first?</i><br /><br />It's not a question of personal hypocrisy; it's a question of group hypocrisy. <br /><br />Orthodox Jewish law holds that every Jew is responsible for the actions of every other Jew because Jewish morality is national (collective):<br /><br /><i>To this day orthodox Jewish ethics has remained in its essence national rather than individual, and this accounts, incidentally, for the otherwise incomprehensible legal theorem of the common responsibility of all Jews for the deeds of each.</i>--Salo Wittmayer Baron (1895–1989). [From page 10 of Baron's "A social and Religious History of the Jews", published by Columbia University Press, 1957 --<br />ISBN 0231088388, 9780231088381.] <br /><br />Yale University Press calls Baron "a preeminent scholar who revolutionized the study of Jewish history during his lengthy tenure at Columbia University":<br /><br />http://yalepress.yale.edu/yupbooks/book.asp?isbn=9780300106770ben tillmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-26922102844909750292012-06-17T19:22:09.239-07:002012-06-17T19:22:09.239-07:00"A question for all of the commenters here as...<i>"A question for all of the commenters here assuming Shmuel Rosner is a hypocrite for advocating immigration restriction in Israel: Do you know if he advocates the opposite for the US? If not, then maybe it's your own prejudice fueling claims of his hypocrisy."</i><br /><br />Do you do standup comedy? It's not about the Jews, your lying eyes, or 50+ years of history listening to these same old lines of argument!!! It's all about Shmuel Rosner!<br /><br />Thanks! It's all clear now!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-72228424304981215442012-06-17T14:39:57.040-07:002012-06-17T14:39:57.040-07:00A question for all of the commenters here assuming...A question for all of the commenters here assuming Shmuel Rosner is a hypocrite for advocating immigration restriction in Israel: Do you know if he advocates the opposite for the US? If not, then maybe it's your own prejudice fueling claims of his hypocrisy. Why not find out the facts first?Albert Sabinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-13598989114682154112012-06-17T14:33:35.428-07:002012-06-17T14:33:35.428-07:00Then we need to break the two big nations in North...Then we need to break the two big nations in North America into 40-50 small nations. Then we can all live in peace.Johnthenationalistnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-46536624231423445442012-06-17T13:37:35.405-07:002012-06-17T13:37:35.405-07:00Above all else one mustn't hate ones mugger.Above all else one mustn't hate ones mugger.ricpichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01321511130788764861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-20819788238182580052012-06-17T13:28:02.782-07:002012-06-17T13:28:02.782-07:00I'm waiting for some of our Israeli-centric fr...I'm waiting for some of our Israeli-centric friends to explain why the radical difference in the way the elite media is covering Israel's immigration problem compared to how it covers immigration in the USA and Europe.ATBOTLnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-26252800365546889572012-06-17T11:30:53.811-07:002012-06-17T11:30:53.811-07:00This double talk by OUR media in regards to this i...<i>This double talk by OUR media in regards to this issue reminds me of a great line in The Outlaw Josey Wales.</i><br /><br />Lemme guess: "don't piss down my back and tell me it's rainin', Senator"?<br /><br />I love that line.Svigorhttp://svigor.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-58367999184984806102012-06-17T09:35:08.983-07:002012-06-17T09:35:08.983-07:00Another remarkable thing about this NYT article: i...Another remarkable thing about this NYT article: it has a comment section, but two days after it was published online there are still no comments. Really? Nobody felt moved to comment on it? Looks like the time doesn't want people's views on this matter to be known.Mr. Anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-51757805408804049542012-06-17T07:51:17.739-07:002012-06-17T07:51:17.739-07:00The comment about two Californias was interesting....<i>The comment about two Californias was interesting. Larry Auster coined the term 'anarchy-tyranny' for exactly this situation; where the the meek and concientious are over-regulated, while the thugs... well, the thugs do what thugs do.</i> <br /><br /><br /><i>Now we see this reaching a new level where the conscientious have fled, thugs are thugs, and the plebs are lawless.</i> <br /><br /><br /><br />This is what a libertarian dictatorship looks like. Certain freedoms (like "the freedom to live anywhere in the world you want to") are hypertrophied, while others (like civic freedom and "rule of law") are atrophied.Qhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00916566252965436234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-34530961963935118402012-06-17T07:45:29.586-07:002012-06-17T07:45:29.586-07:00Interesting that even in this pro-immigration-enfo...<i>Interesting that even in this pro-immigration-enforcement article, the titular metaphor is still the heart (the source of life/the literary seat of emotion). The question seems to be "what should our heart towards non-citizens be?" Or "how should we feel about them?"</i> <br /> <br /><br /><br />I think the point is to (a) help Jews feel good about themselves even while they (b) support the sort of policies which they are accustomed to regarding as evil and Nazi-like.<br /><br />"We're a wonderful and big-hearted people, but we don't have any choice".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-88117536515291148952012-06-17T05:58:39.127-07:002012-06-17T05:58:39.127-07:00ATBOTL,
"Sam Francis coined the term "...ATBOTL, <br /><br />"Sam Francis coined the term "anarcho-tyrany."<br /><br />Noted. Thanks.<br /><br />GPAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-89992976290492859352012-06-17T01:08:42.068-07:002012-06-17T01:08:42.068-07:00Check out this link:
http://www.stljewishlight.co...Check out this link:<br /><br />http://www.stljewishlight.com/news/world/article_19931eb7-bcbf-5bd4-a8bd-782558ad81e0.html<br /><br />A number of Jewish organizations and individuals have praised Obama<br />for deferring the deportation of young illegal immigrants. These<br />include Mark Hetfield, Interim president and CEO of the Hebrew<br />Immigrant Aid Society, which has spoken out publicly in support of the DREAM Act; Rabbi David Saperstein, president of the Religious Action Center of Reform Judaism; Nancy Kaufman, CEO of the National Council of Jewish Women (NCJW); National Jewish Democratic Council president and CEO David Harris and chair Marc Stanley; and the Anti-Defamation League.Average Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12203996329459638052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-36340535149466635102012-06-17T00:47:11.196-07:002012-06-17T00:47:11.196-07:00Uhm, to the comment on Singapore, I would elaborat...Uhm, to the comment on Singapore, I would elaborate a bit.<br /><br />The country accepts only high-IQ, or high-income people as potential citizens. But note that high income does not necessarily mean high IQ, and vice versa. And there are rumors of immigrants from PRC getting rich by less than savory methods...<br /><br />Secondly, even without being citizens, foreigners are still allowed to work here with the same tax rates and many of the same amenities as citizens. This still puts the left half of the bell curve of the native citizenry in Singapore in direct competition with much cheaper labor from the generally impoverished region. They have difficulty finding employment, with all the social consequences that entails.<br /><br />Finally, for a male, application for citizenship below a certain age (40) carries with it the burden of national service, a military draft of two years duration. Given that choice, how many immigrants would make that sacrifice? Far smarter for them to stay as non-citizens but continue working in Singapore and enjoy virtually all the perks and benefits of a citizen without paying anything extra.<br /><br />So in the future, we should be even more, shall I say, nuanced. There's illegal immigrants, guest workers, then new citizens. The Singapore experience will tell you that you need to be careful with the guest worker policy.The Wobbly Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09301556031735052090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-25715218559975194602012-06-16T23:58:47.352-07:002012-06-16T23:58:47.352-07:00http://city-journal.com/2012/22_2_chicago.htmlhttp://city-journal.com/2012/22_2_chicago.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1765843737328355142012-06-16T23:41:50.949-07:002012-06-16T23:41:50.949-07:00http://city-journal.com/2012/22_2_chicago.html#.T9...http://city-journal.com/2012/22_2_chicago.html#.T9nPrmH4NR8.facebookAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-58916808787876818232012-06-16T22:58:54.538-07:002012-06-16T22:58:54.538-07:00Interesting that even in this pro-immigration-enfo...Interesting that even in this pro-immigration-enforcement article, the titular metaphor is still the heart (the source of life/the literary seat of emotion). The question seems to be "what should our heart towards non-citizens be?" Or "how should we feel about them?"<br /><br />A better sub-metaphor for the role of borders within the body politic would be that of human skin: it keeps out what needs kept out, while helping to hold everything inside in place.in Columbusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-22045822430138220002012-06-16T19:57:24.332-07:002012-06-16T19:57:24.332-07:00Is it not odd the producers for HBO happen to have...Is it not odd the producers for HBO happen to have a bunch of GW Bush latex/mache fake heads lying around... I noticed the protesters in Pakistan were not burning the best quality effigies of Barack--perhaps that supply is better controlledAlcalde Jaime Miguel Curleohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11801154986193443160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-3809471682218707092012-06-16T18:56:12.438-07:002012-06-16T18:56:12.438-07:00"In a surprise move Neocon [David Frum] speak...<b>"In a surprise move Neocon [David Frum] speaks out against Obama's amnesty"</b><br /><br />Frum's actually been anti-amnesty for awhile now, and possibly even in favor of reducing legal immigration.Matthewnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-13273448002609730712012-06-16T18:31:15.811-07:002012-06-16T18:31:15.811-07:00This emperor has no clothes and damn little skin. ...This emperor has no clothes and damn little skin. You're linked and commented again:<br /><a href="http://ex-army.blogspot.com/2012/06/obamnesty.html" rel="nofollow">http://ex-army.blogspot.com/2012/06/obamnesty.html</a>Baloohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08245765878554696634noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-39059303095415697092012-06-16T18:21:57.142-07:002012-06-16T18:21:57.142-07:00Sam Francis coined the term "anarcho-tyrany.&...Sam Francis coined the term "anarcho-tyrany."ATBOTLnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-47427894096398072522012-06-16T17:11:44.065-07:002012-06-16T17:11:44.065-07:00The comment about two Californias was interesting....The comment about two Californias was interesting. Larry Auster coined the term 'anarchy-tyranny' for exactly this situation; where the the meek and concientious are over-regulated, while the thugs... well, the thugs do what thugs do.<br /><br />Now we see this reaching a new level where the conscientious have fled, thugs are thugs, and the plebs are lawless.<br /><br />Gilbert P.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com