tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post7489751955498497370..comments2024-03-28T16:22:14.888-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: "Reflections on the Revolution in Europe"Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger87125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-65697233843551827992009-05-23T18:42:22.518-07:002009-05-23T18:42:22.518-07:00Twas I who said:
"Alternatively, and Im always sa...Twas I who said:<br /><br />"Alternatively, and Im always saying this to conservatives who care strongly about Israel, if 80% of American Jews dont care about Israel, apparently, then why should you?<br /><br />"T99's original comment was what I was trying to refute.<br /><br />"Or have I horribly messed everything up?"<br /><br />--<br /><br />Lurker,<br /><br />I knew it was you who wrote that comment and what you meant by it.<br /><br />I was just 'thanking' Testy for bringing the 'facts' of the situation to our attention (LOL).<br /><br />WHMWASP-Harvard-Mafianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-19730456200033170862009-05-23T12:13:34.291-07:002009-05-23T12:13:34.291-07:00The alternate explanation is that women [by and la...<I>The alternate explanation is that women [by and large] cannot innately sense the difference between right and wrong - that they are incapable of making decisions for themselves [especially decisions involving morality] - and that they simply do what they are told to do.<br /><br />[Apparently that was more or less Aristotle's view of the situation, 2350 years ago.]</I> <br /><br />Yes, this is exactly right. It's like the way some birds can sense the magnetic lines of the earth while humans cannot. Women don't have an innate sense of right and wrong, they follow along with the crowd, which works sometimes and doesn't work other times. Women need to be in a position of submission to authority in order to live useful productive lives. Not only Aristotle, but God says this Himself in the book of Genesis, and it's repeated in the New Testament, and its been believed by virtually every person who's ever lived throughout all of history except for certain liberals living in Western countries in the past few decades.<br /><br /><I>If that is true, then men [well, the good men, not the evil men] have, in our era, abdicated their responsibility to teach women the difference between right and wrong.</I> <br /><br />Your point is valid, but it's somewhat unfair to say "abdicated." Some may have abdicated voluntarily, but many others have been violently overthrown by the most radical political system in history that supports every rebellion (by women, children, minorities) and forcefully attacks every authority that attempts to defend itself.<br /><br /><I>In particular, while women may very well be "the fount and ground zero of PC", it may also be the case that they have no conscious awareness of how they are being manipulated.</I> <br /><br />This is very true, I've seen it in countless cases. Women have no conscious understanding of how they have been influenced and by whom. They absorb the surrounding zeitgeist at a sub-conscious level. Having done so, they are astounded whenever they find that someone else doesn't agree with one of their positions, all of which they take to be self-evident.<br /><br /><I>PS: For the record, chicks like Sarah Palin & Liz Cheney do offer me just the faintest glimmer of hope that there might be at least a handful of women who defy this maxim.</I> <br /><br />Surely you jest. Sarah Palin and Liz Cheney? Without saying anything more about those two, let's just say that they're hardly exceptions to the rule.Maximiliannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-68057423027235135822009-05-23T07:04:23.940-07:002009-05-23T07:04:23.940-07:00The inevitable t99: "It is not an 'elite' conspir...The inevitable t99: <I>"It is not an 'elite' conspiracy...WHO are the PC enforcers in the workplace? Not men. They don't benefit from it, women do. As Steve pointed out, if women had been married at 1984 rates, McCain would have won."</I> <br /><br />And yet McCain no more represents the interests of ordinary white men than does Obama. So per your theory single-white women voted clear-sightedly in support of their interests, but ordinary white men keep deludedly supporting a system that produced a candidate who in reality is at least as hostile toward them as any liberal on the "other" side. Sounds to me like white men have a problem more fundamental than the PC-bims at the office. Fix the ultimate problem and you'd be a long way toward fixing the proximate one.Rohan Sweenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-53218884279447953292009-05-22T21:56:46.340-07:002009-05-22T21:56:46.340-07:00I don't think men were engaging in many duels when...<I>I don't think men were engaging in many duels when Betty Friedan came along.</I>Right, by then something had changed. Well, what changed it? In no small part the "culture of critique" that we're all supposed to lament as the source of all our woes.silverhttp://accidentaldissent.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-43245240352233573862009-05-22T20:23:09.280-07:002009-05-22T20:23:09.280-07:00Paranoid Bitchy Incessant Whiner,
What does shavi...Paranoid Bitchy Incessant Whiner,<br /><br />What does shaving one's crotch have to do with knowing right and wrong?robnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-25604625483931347832009-05-22T18:59:05.143-07:002009-05-22T18:59:05.143-07:00"The alternate explanation is that women [by and l..."The alternate explanation is that women [by and large] cannot innately sense the difference between right and wrong - that they are incapable of making decisions for themselves [especially decisions involving morality] - and that they simply do what they are told to do.<br /><br />[Apparently that was more or less Aristotle's view of the situation, 2350 years ago.] "<br /><br /><br />Interesting idea. It is my understanding that women generally score lower than men on an assessment of moral values based on Kohlberg's stages of moral development. <br /><br />Women average level 3, men average level 4.<br /><br />Some psychologists naturally want to fix that gap and suggest alternate assessments for women.silly girlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-14674066363021340212009-05-22T18:12:34.890-07:002009-05-22T18:12:34.890-07:00Anomalous female,
Homeschooling is so easy, it's ...Anomalous female,<br /><br />Homeschooling is so easy, it's shocking. It only takes 2-3 hours a day and you get to do fun stuff with your kids. Also you don't have to go the snail's pace of public school. It's amazing how fast kids can go without a whole class to slow them down. Most kids can graduate by 16 including AP classes. Good luckAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-67880751919950141492009-05-22T16:54:42.732-07:002009-05-22T16:54:42.732-07:00If that is true, then men [well, the good men, not...<I>If that is true, then men [well, the good men, not the evil men] have, in our era, abdicated their responsibility to teach women the difference between right and wrong.</I> <br /><br />I wouldn't put it the same way you do, but yeah. Women need men for a number of things, and political sanity is one of them.<br /><br />The eternal caveat: that I judge women harshly doesn't necessitate I cut men any slack. Humans in general are followers, not leaders. But men, or rather a portion of men, are the drivers of political sanity. They're the drivers of pretty much everything politically, unless you have EN's disease, and then going into a booth and pulling a lever for Tweedledee or Tweedledum is the driver of pretty much everything politically.Svigorhttp://majorityrights.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-46977575680401688092009-05-22T16:24:07.696-07:002009-05-22T16:24:07.696-07:00"The alternate explanation is that women [by and l..."The alternate explanation is that women [by and large] cannot innately sense the difference between right and wrong - that they are incapable of making decisions for themselves [especially decisions involving morality] - and that they simply do what they are told to do." - P.B.I.W.<br /><br />This is a disturbing thought I've had from time to time. I know many fewer women, in person and in the literature, with outstanding moralities. Fewer serial killers, fewer lone heroes, fewer whose example dramatically altered our thoughts on ethics and morality. Very few women will stand up for a lone, hen-picked individual when the mob is out to get him. If I hold position Z, and a bunch of people of angry (but nonviolent) people hold position A, it's much more likely that a guy who holds position C will stand up for me than a couple of women who hold position X or Y. Position A is the moral position, as "dictated by the situation". <br /><br />I've wondered the same thing about certain sexual patterns - girls willfully becoming sluts, losing people's respect, and simultaneously thumbing their nose at Dworkin feminism and Christian morality ... all to what end? Given the favored sexual acts, the answer can't always be "orgasm". Fitting in with the other girls is the answer, I guess. I think most men simply can't imagine making such a decision, but then again most women can't imagine doing those skateboard tricks <I>simply as a way of standing out from other boys</I>.<br /><br />I wonder about cognitive dissonance - if women are better at abolishing theirs by amending away whatever they're not currently being told to do. Men are better at "thinking the unthinkable", if you will. <br /><br />It appears that, on morality as well as IQ, men have a higher standard deviation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-69428080640627948932009-05-22T15:53:26.557-07:002009-05-22T15:53:26.557-07:00Paranoid Bitchy Incessant Whiner said... At long l...<I>Paranoid Bitchy Incessant Whiner said...</I> At long last, truth in labeling!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-89297964038743953962009-05-22T14:05:04.802-07:002009-05-22T14:05:04.802-07:00"...and unpopular in America, where most of the De..."...and unpopular in America, where most of the Democratic Party would be overjoyed if Israel were nuked out of existence. ...<br /><br />"...Israeli academics charge that Israel's armed forces are "racist" for not raping Arab women! THAT is uber-PC. ..."<br /><br />--<br /><br />Testy, <br /><br />We appreciate your supplication..., <br /><br />but, as you know, we have one concern that overides all others - Is it good for the Jews?<br /><br />So then we think its time for you to ease up talking about us incessantly...,<br /><br />since you are really beginning to embarrass us... .<br /><br />No hard feelings of course, right Bubi!?!The G-dfathernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-19503359392535328382009-05-22T13:44:26.025-07:002009-05-22T13:44:26.025-07:00WASP-Harvard-Mafia
Twas I who said:
Alternativel...WASP-Harvard-Mafia<br /><br />Twas I who said:<br /><br /><I>Alternatively, and Im always saying this to conservatives who care strongly about Israel, if 80% of American Jews dont care about Israel, apparently, then why should you</I>?<br /><br />T99's original comment was what I was trying to refute.<br /><br />Or have I horribly messed everything up?<br /><br />Of course I dont believe for moment that those 80% of American Jews voting Dem are indifferent to Israel. They know perfectly well Israel is safe with either party in power in the US. However if they really <I>are</I> indifferent then my point stands in its own right. Its the sort of thing I would love to post at LGF, that neo-con hellhole.<br /><br />(Im anon because blogger seems to have forgotten who I am.)<br /><br />LurkerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-79736939882126350672009-05-22T12:30:24.002-07:002009-05-22T12:30:24.002-07:00There's much to be thankful for. You don't really ...<I>There's much to be thankful for. You don't really want to live in a society in which a "gentleman" could challenge you to a duel for insulting his "honor," do you</I>?<br /><br />I don't think men were engaging in many duels when Betty Friedan came along.<br /><br />Yes, I'm glad that women can work, go to college, drive, use birth control, decide for themselves who to marry, whatever. As I said, it's the antagonism - the <I>continuing</I> antagonism - that's so destructive. It seems to be slowly fading away, but not fast enough.Captain Jack Aubreynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-76086649068265618552009-05-22T12:09:10.624-07:002009-05-22T12:09:10.624-07:00Oh elites benefit from it, and keep it around, but...<I>Oh elites benefit from it, and keep it around, but it's main support is WOMEN.</I> <br /><br />You seem to move the goalposts here. First, the main beneficiaries are women. Then, the main support is women. I mention this because benefit & support are very different things.<br /><br />As Ben rightly points out, women are useful idiots. Most women are VERY MUCH NOT the sort of defectives who will go on believing in the matrix after seeing how much destruction it wreaks, and how little gain it brings. Women would drop it like a hot potato if men put their foot down. Unfortunately, men are AWOL.<br /><br /><I>Yet we hear that 80% of American Jews vote Democrat. Can it be they are so misguided or do they fundamentally understand something about the Democrat party that we dont?</I> <br /><br />*Facepalm*<br /><br />You HAD to ask him that? He LIVES for that. Now he gets to tell us how Jews in America are all Israel-hating SWPL anti-Semites...<br /><br /><I>Depending on your point of view, this means that either:<br /><br />1) The Jews are all-powerful and are only allowing pro-Jewish anti-immigration movements to flourish.<br />2) The whole "Jewish question" is just a big sidetrack from the real issues and isn't helping at all.</I> <br /><br />3) Jews don't have anywhere near the juice in Europe that they do in America, so they're more open to compromise.<br /><br /><I>And bitching about a grammar nazi is pretty ironic coming from a guy who obsessively posts about trivial HTML problems and fills every thread with his incessant whining about how Steve is "censoring" him.</I> <br /><br />Need I point out that ad homs from a guy named "Anonymous" are pretty ironic? And thanks for reminding me I need a space after my end-tags to make my HTML come out looking like something other than crap.Svigorhttp://majorityrights.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-63255804413198670552009-05-22T11:31:07.193-07:002009-05-22T11:31:07.193-07:00testing99: let's not forget, women are the fount a...<B> testing99:</B> <I>let's not forget, women are the fount and ground zero of PC... Women gain when ordinary men are purged from the workforce and much of public life.</I> <br /><br /><B>ben tillman:</B> <I>No... They are "useful idiots".</I> <br /><br /><B>rob:</B> <I>The porn adoption goes more like "dude likes porn, tells girlfriend what he likes, girlfriend does it to please him."</I> <br /><br /><B>silver:</B> <I>The critical groundwork was laid well before they came on the scene.</I> <br /><br />The alternate explanation is that women [by and large] cannot innately sense the difference between right and wrong - that they are incapable of making decisions for themselves [especially decisions involving morality] - and that they simply do what they are told to do.<br /><br />[Apparently that was more or less Aristotle's view of the situation, 2350 years ago.]<br /><br />If that is true, then men [well, the good men, not the evil men] have, in our era, abdicated their responsibility to teach women the difference between right and wrong.<br /><br />In particular, while women may very well be "the fount and ground zero of PC", it may also be the case that they have no conscious awareness of how they are being manipulated.<br /><br />[Which, in turn, begs the question of just who it is that is doing the manipulating.]<br /><br />PS: For the record, chicks like Sarah Palin & Liz Cheney do offer me just the faintest glimmer of hope that there might be at least a handful of women who defy this maxim.Paranoid Bitchy Incessant Whinernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-659148232223614882009-05-22T11:22:33.992-07:002009-05-22T11:22:33.992-07:00And yes TV is important. It is the selling point f...<I>And yes TV is important. It is the selling point for female consumers, and tells you what messages work for female consumers. Attitudes expressed there WORK.</I>Nope, you're still not getting it. The media is not simply a lab for observing human behavior. It's a vehicle for <I>changing</I> human behavior. THE vehicle.<br /><br />It's called reality EN. C'mon, you're a tough guy, you can take it.Svigorhttp://majorityrights.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-38525037200123490072009-05-22T11:19:02.748-07:002009-05-22T11:19:02.748-07:00Take illegal immigration. For women, a net plus. N...<I>Take illegal immigration. For women, a net plus. No real competition for office jobs, and cheap household labor making single motherhood more affordable.</I>WRONG. Mexican immigration is a net loss for women. Forget about the privatization of profits and socialization of costs? Ethnic genetic interests? Urban sprawl? Crime? Misogyny?<br /><br />You seem to really need for liberalism to make sense somewhere near its face. Trouble is, it doesn't. <I>It can't</I> make sense at the level of white demographics you seem to need it to.Svigorhttp://majorityrights.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-13740054237898045092009-05-22T07:53:56.711-07:002009-05-22T07:53:56.711-07:00We have Betty Friedan, Gloria Steinem and the rest...<I>We have Betty Friedan, Gloria Steinem and the rest of the feminist shock troops to thank for brainwashing (not all, but enough) women into viewing their genetic partners antagonistically.</I>The critical groundwork was laid well before they came on the scene.<br /><br />Mind you, I don't think all of it was bad. There's much to be thankful for. You don't really want to live in a society in which a "gentleman" could challenge you to a duel for insulting his "honor," do you? Aren't you pleased at the "change" that took place? I am.<br /><br />Laney,<br /><br /><I>As Goethe said, "“observe this clever race that has internalized the principle that wherever order obtains, there is no profit to be made!"</I>I hope you're sitting down for this one, Col: apparently the Talmud states "A hero is one who knows how to make a friend out of an enemy." <br /><br />Scoff all you like, but quite clearly you stand to learn something from it.silverhttp://accidentaldissent.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-63639439276940048262009-05-22T05:03:22.347-07:002009-05-22T05:03:22.347-07:00Rob/D. Davenport-according to a Sports Illustrated...Rob/D. Davenport-according to a Sports Illustrated story, the local strippers in Boston were among the first to sport the "Landing Strip" look in homage to the single strip of black tape the greatest hockey player of all time, Bobby Orr, had on his stick blade!<br /><br />BrutusAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-4923033592789524262009-05-22T03:22:46.185-07:002009-05-22T03:22:46.185-07:00These aren't clever, pretty girls you're seeing, a...<I>These aren't clever, pretty girls you're seeing, are they?</I> <br /><br />I saw surprisingly many young, pretty, well dressed women with black kids on a past visit to Portsmouth. The people there weren't very fond of foreigners, but obviously got along well with their black neighbours.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-42398519665246465962009-05-22T03:18:49.766-07:002009-05-22T03:18:49.766-07:00Depending on your point of view, this means that e...Depending on your point of view, this means that either:<br /><br />1) The Jews are all-powerful and are only allowing pro-Jewish anti-immigration movements to flourish.<br />2) The whole "Jewish question" is just a big sidetrack from the real issues and isn't helping at all.<br /><br />___<br /><br /><br />I'll go with answer one.<br /><br />And yes, its my final answer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-23807071964801151852009-05-22T03:02:41.377-07:002009-05-22T03:02:41.377-07:00Lucius needs to stop being so paranoid. Blogger.co...Lucius needs to stop being so paranoid. Blogger.com eats a lot of the comments posted. Just repost. Problem solved. And bitching about a grammar nazi is pretty ironic coming from a guy who obsessively posts about trivial HTML problems and fills every thread with his incessant whining about how Steve is "censoring" him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-59754755350555076212009-05-22T02:58:19.273-07:002009-05-22T02:58:19.273-07:00Re: Jews and the "revolution in Europe".
Let me r...Re: Jews and the "revolution in Europe".<br /><br />Let me remind you all that the most successful far-right movements in Europe are the ones which are notably pro-Israel and pro-Jewish.<br /><br />Geert Wilders, for instance, is so close to various Israeli figures in the Netherlands that he's sometimes (semi-jokingly) accused of being a Mossad agent.<br /><br />Depending on your point of view, this means that either:<br /><br />1) The Jews are all-powerful and are only allowing pro-Jewish anti-immigration movements to flourish.<br />2) The whole "Jewish question" is just a big sidetrack from the real issues and isn't helping at all.YAnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-19867256144920135462009-05-22T01:19:38.082-07:002009-05-22T01:19:38.082-07:00chic noir said...
huh?
At last, a woman who unde...<I>chic noir said... <br />huh</I>?<br /><br />At last, a woman who understands me! So...are you busy Saturday night?Testy the Desperatenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-75196320370033281192009-05-21T22:52:38.678-07:002009-05-21T22:52:38.678-07:00"As if there's a paucity of females participating ..."<I>As if there's a paucity of females participating in porn. As if a surprising percentage of women aren't au courant with porny modes of grooming."</I>Davenport, are you really that amazingly dumb? Through the magic of recording stuff and playing it back later, a very small number of woman-hours spent acting in porn results in a much greater number of man-hours spent watching it.<br /><br />I've never even heard of a chick who lost her job because she couldn't resist watching NSFW stuff at work.<br /><br />The porn adoption goes more like "dude likes porn, tells girlfriend what he likes, girlfriend does it to please him."<br /><br />mjgh, I meant Continental Europe, but honestly I was talking out of my nether regions. England's gone, unless the BNP comes to power. Is it possible that your just seeing blacks assimilating into the white underclass? These aren't clever, pretty girls you're seeing, are they? Are there many Belgian, French or Danish women having African kids?robnoreply@blogger.com