tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post8150418659459578520..comments2024-03-19T02:31:02.140-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: The War Among WomenUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger135125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-56355591501293062682012-05-27T11:43:13.148-07:002012-05-27T11:43:13.148-07:00" But, as has often been said, in the war bet..." But, as has often been said, in the war between the sexes, there will never be a final victory because there is too much fraternizing with the enemy."<br /><br />Women have been winning for some time seeing how they own the kids, they have the options of lifestyles men don't (worker or home maker), and their scuffles aimed at getting more are portrayed as a "war one women"... Because whenever women, as a class, don't get what they want, something has to be wrong. s/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-72169753323096896122012-05-17T03:44:54.959-07:002012-05-17T03:44:54.959-07:00"Maya said...
Isabel and Whiskey should get ..."Maya said... <br />Isabel and Whiskey should get married. Together, they could preside over the war between the sexes events at the special olympics"<br /><br />Post of the Week!JSMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-21748333732805044892012-05-16T19:31:10.044-07:002012-05-16T19:31:10.044-07:00"Many men are non confrontational and don'..."Many men are non confrontational and don't have physical outlets for their daily stresses , so they get as good as anyone at channeling their aggression in the culturally accepted manner. I've met plenty of men who engaged in passive-aggressive behavior. Scheming, manipulating and insulting others within bounds of polite conversation aren't exclusively female activities."<br /><br />Probably the most profound truth hiding in plain sight that has been made on this thread.<br />If women have a physically aggressive, male side (and quite a few do) then we have to acknowledge the inner yin, or female side, of men. The "bullying" I've seen among men is, in many ways, not different from that of women which may be why it goes unrecognized. It's just politics.<br /><br />Face it. We're all punks if we don't patrol our baser inclinations. None of us wants to admit it.tellemandnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-22258870809884021842012-05-16T19:09:35.587-07:002012-05-16T19:09:35.587-07:00"As for boss bullying, from my experience wom..."As for boss bullying, from my experience women are not exempt here and are actually worse bullies and dish out abuse as some kind of method of testing for respect. I've had unqualified male bosses, but I've never had a female boss that ever displayed the kind of personal, emotional distance that characterizes professionalism. They demand a kind of respect or obeisance based on personal, subjective criteria and frequently test for that obeisance by making their subordinates uncomfortable. Sometimes it is passive-aggressive, but given the position of authority it often is not."<br /><br />That's too bad for you. I've had fantastic female bosses and women who were the soul of professionalism. I have also had quite a number that were what you describe, but I thank heaven for the good examples. They make my life worth living.<br />btw, do you ever think maybe you are part of the problem? You do not sound as if you would ever even want to encounter a woman who would not live up to your expectations.Charlottenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-29958206159379379472012-05-16T11:47:21.287-07:002012-05-16T11:47:21.287-07:00K(yle),
Not all men are the spitting, binge drink...K(yle),<br /><br />Not all men are the spitting, binge drinking, back slapping types who would call each other faggots, if only it were allowed. Many men are non confrontational and don't have physical outlets for their daily stresses , so they get as good as anyone at channeling their aggression in the culturally accepted manner. I've met plenty of men who engaged in passive-aggressive behavior. Scheming, manipulating and insulting others within bounds of polite conversation aren't exclusively female activities.Mayanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-13509201354441075812012-05-16T11:03:08.778-07:002012-05-16T11:03:08.778-07:00Sailer wrote, Women aren't all that good at to...Sailer wrote, <i>Women aren't all that good at tolerance toward other women, due to their relatively higher levels of conformism. A typical woman tends to want to do what other women want to do, and want other women to do what she wants to do.</i><br /><br />Then an anonymous chick agreed with Sailer, then Isabel said, <br /><br /><i>It's so adorable how you look up to men. I bet they love you, and that makes you feel warm inside, and smugly superior to those vengeful feminists.</i><br /><br />Isabel, that right there, how you respond to women who disagree with you, illustrates Sailer's point.robnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-45859330330285528552012-05-16T10:36:02.414-07:002012-05-16T10:36:02.414-07:00'So many posters are quick to point out that G...<i>'So many posters are quick to point out that Goldberg is Jewish. Yet no one finds it necessary to point out Lindy West's Scandinavian heritage. Why so?'</i><br /><br />To the fair and unbiased commentators here at iSteve, Scandinavians are Nice White People regardless of what individuals are saying or doing. Jews are always Jews.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-6461080761221560132012-05-16T10:24:40.203-07:002012-05-16T10:24:40.203-07:00I agree with everything Charlotte says.
Also, has...I agree with everything Charlotte says.<br /><br />Also, has Steve already forgotten the Attack of Tim Tebow by the Nebbish? Much cattier and not an aberration, either.<br /><br />Not a soul had the attitude, "Men! Same ol', same ol'" No, we discussed ethnicity, philosophy, religion, values, class... the attitude was much more respectful of the aggressors' motivations and no one in any way insinuated that men like Tebow kind of had it coming, being an aggressive male and all.Dahlianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-60107232604198919632012-05-16T08:33:42.044-07:002012-05-16T08:33:42.044-07:00So many posters are quick to point out that Goldbe...<i>So many posters are quick to point out that Goldberg is Jewish. Yet no one finds it necessary to point out Lindy West's Scandinavian heritage. Why so?</i> <br /> <br /><br /><br /><br />The question raised was why are there so many Jews in the pundit class, where what can and cannot be talked about is decided. It's not because of their brilliance with words - just <i>read</i> some of them.<br /><br />If people with "Scandinavian heritage" made up a grotesquely exaggerated proportion of various important professions that would likewise be something worth commenting on. But they are not so it isn't.Qhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00916566252965436234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-3724114406741182432012-05-16T06:57:25.599-07:002012-05-16T06:57:25.599-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-7028042815767978102012-05-16T06:52:27.097-07:002012-05-16T06:52:27.097-07:00"Creepy" is what ignoramuses call anythi..."Creepy" is what ignoramuses call anything new that isn't popular and preapproved by their ingroup. Dumb people are frightened of everything, even their own shadows, and their trying to hide their fear accounts for much of their behavior. Including calling other people "witch," "racist," "sad," and "heretic" and displaying bravado like "You can't handle me."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-88297194123196312512012-05-16T02:55:41.317-07:002012-05-16T02:55:41.317-07:00'So many posters are quick to point out that G...'So many posters are quick to point out that Goldberg is Jewish. Yet no one finds it necessary to point out Lindy West's Scandinavian heritage. Why so?'<br /><br />"Because Scandinavians have not been cited as running the media far beyond what their percentage of the population should indicate."<br /><br />and after the epochal blanda upp video, they are immune to all criticism. So unless you can point to scots-irish influence in the making of that video, expect the partisan treatment.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-73502602425928524432012-05-16T02:54:04.454-07:002012-05-16T02:54:04.454-07:00Theme of the 2012 Election: Crown vs.HaloTheme of the 2012 Election: Crown vs.HaloAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-13821765201448303492012-05-16T02:04:32.030-07:002012-05-16T02:04:32.030-07:00I just realized the thing that is so disturbing ab...I just realized the thing that is so disturbing about how you "moderate at whim" - it is that you are basically using your commenters for your own purposes. I've seen this many times. Allow the comments attacking another commenter if they are supporting your views, but disallow those by the attacked person, especially if they make a good case for themselves. But yeah, the post where I complain about censorship makes it through so people can say I'm a whiner, etc. It is a cowardly, unethical form of censorship. Power corrupts on the blog'o'sphere, like everywhere.Isabelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-87741636449788085222012-05-16T01:46:27.546-07:002012-05-16T01:46:27.546-07:00I didn't think it could get more annoying what...I didn't think it could get more annoying what with everyone here having the same name, but how can anyone follow a thread around here with this constant capricious censorship? I never know when and if a comment will appear. Bloggers are the biggest control freaks EVER. I can see banning people, but picking and choosing which posts to allow? And my BEST comments are the ones censored. What a surprise.Isabelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-36753897585446997712012-05-16T01:22:09.439-07:002012-05-16T01:22:09.439-07:00I've never seen any serious cases of male '...I've never seen any serious cases of male 'bullying' in adult men that weren't alcohol related. I'm sure it happens in some workplaces, but I nowhere near the level that it happens among children and teens. That I, and others here apparently could completely evade the phenomena as adults where as virtually no one is unfamiliar with it as children speaks volumes.<br /><br />The whole police/military "bullying" is nonsense. There are occupations that will turn a non-bully into an aggressive asshole, but that's not 'bullying' in the conventional sense and everyone knows it. You are talking primarily about things that are qualities necessary for the job, that can wind up being abusive power trips.<br /><br />The problem I see with the whole male vs female bullying is a perception gap. Lots of adult women in the workforce are extraordinarily passive-aggressive which is usually certifiable bullying, and apparently a lot of women don't see passive-aggressive behavior as bullying at all.<br /><br />The creation of a hostile environment to the target of female scorn is much easier, because by definition passive-aggressive behavior is subtle. The related sensitivity to subtle social cues also can trigger a feud where no slight was intended.<br /><br />Male bullying in the workplace doesn't happen because we'll get fired for calling each other faggots, bragging about fucking each other's wives, mothers, sisters and the ensuing fist fights that occur.<br /><br />As for boss bullying, from my experience women are not exempt here and are actually worse bullies and dish out abuse as some kind of method of testing for respect. I've had unqualified male bosses, but I've never had a female boss that ever displayed the kind of personal, emotional distance that characterizes professionalism. They demand a kind of respect or obeisance based on personal, subjective criteria and frequently test for that obeisance by making their subordinates uncomfortable. Sometimes it is passive-aggressive, but given the position of authority it often is not.K(yle)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-41871328552217362592012-05-15T21:20:57.195-07:002012-05-15T21:20:57.195-07:00So many posters are quick to point out that Goldbe...<i>So many posters are quick to point out that Goldberg is Jewish. Yet no one finds it necessary to point out Lindy West's Scandinavian heritage. Why so?</i><br /><br />First, because we don't know who she is or how she's supposed to be relevant to this discussion. And, second, because any antipathy she feels against her own people would have to have been cultivated in her by outsiders.ben tillmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-72955818479647283222012-05-15T20:02:40.728-07:002012-05-15T20:02:40.728-07:00Hag, work with other women exclusively, then come ...Hag, work with other women exclusively, then come back and report.<br /><br />Sorry that this phallocratic world we live in keeps you from a gig you enjoy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-53042026215794227762012-05-15T19:51:16.043-07:002012-05-15T19:51:16.043-07:00Thomas said: "Ok, so she's a bit zaftig a...Thomas said: "Ok, so she's a bit zaftig and puffy-faced. I wouldn't say hideous... But I can't imagine that any man of equivalent social stature to a nationally-published commentator and journalist wouldn't be able to do significantly better. And she's 36 or 37. We're looking at the next Maureen Dowd.<br /><br />If she's hoping to have a baby soon, sperm clinics are probably her best bet."<br /><br />Let it never be said that men are as unkind and personal in their critiques as women.<br />Jeesh. Sometimes all you can do is laugh. Me no like Ms. Goldberg's ideas either, but I don't care what she looks like--she sounds anti-gentile, like quite a few non-gentile pundits I've read commenting on gentile fertility. Yet blacks and browns with 10 kids on welfare doesn't seem to bother them. They are pretty worthless as commenters on people who have to make their own way in the world. They have no idea of reality. Cool? Who the hell uses that word with a straight face anymore?<br /><br />By the way, your fevered imagination is overpopulated with young Cary Grants. There are indeed men who would desire ms. Goldberg. I know you don't want to hear it, but Mr., I've seen similar. One just welcomed her second rugrat at the age of 42. There's no reason for Ms. Goldberg to lose hope even if Mr. B.O. is not reelected.Charlottenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-20382044686174855042012-05-15T19:25:20.640-07:002012-05-15T19:25:20.640-07:00a man said...
"So many posters are quick to p...a man said...<br />"So many posters are quick to point out that Goldberg is Jewish. Yet no one finds it necessary to point out Lindy West's Scandinavian heritage. Why so?"<br /><br />Because Scandinavians have not been cited as running the media far beyond what their percentage of the population should indicate. You must be new here.telemandnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-86410018469357191552012-05-15T19:20:50.811-07:002012-05-15T19:20:50.811-07:00"Maya, boys may be more bullied by other boys..."Maya, boys may be more bullied by other boys in school, but it basically stops when they hit a certain age. Women NEVER stop."<br /><br />On what planet? I usually don't get into arguments about whos the worstest of them all (men or women) but that is an insane comment. In the workplace, in the political forum, on the street, etc etc, you find male bullying. Except it tends to get called other things. If anything my personal observation is that women change more because they feel the need to get along. Motherhood can do that too. <br />I have observed a few interestingly nasty and odd interactions with elderly men, who for little reason than that they could get away with it, insulted or started weirdly personal arguments. I figured the young woman probably reminded him of some ex- in his life, or maybe he was one of those boys who liked to yell in public, dirty or insulting things at some girl or woman just walking down the street. It happens all the time to women, often at night. <br />So no, I don't think male bullies ever stop. Maybe they just get their lights punched out a lot harder and learned how to shut up at dangerous times.Charlottenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-5572322321788449102012-05-15T17:34:57.526-07:002012-05-15T17:34:57.526-07:00The many faces of Michelle Goldberg:
http://uploa...The many faces of Michelle Goldberg:<br /><br />http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/b4/Michelle_goldberg.jpg/220px-Michelle_goldberg.jpg<br /><br />Ok, not too bad. The professional book-jacket photographer who took this better be on her Hanukkah card list...<br /><br />http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/large_lightbox/hash/9e/5d/1337004847_Goldberg.JPG<br /><br />Urk. Houston, we have a problem...<br /><br />http://www.flickr.com/photos/majikthise/534852949/<br /><br />And here we're getting into coyote-ugly territory.<br /><br />And in motion: http://www.thedailybeast.com/videos/2012/02/02/planned-parenthood-vs-komen-why-komen-loses.html<br /><br />Ok, so she's a bit zaftig and puffy-faced. I wouldn't say hideous... But I can't imagine that any man of equivalent social stature to a nationally-published commentator and journalist wouldn't be able to do significantly better. And she's 36 or 37. We're looking at the next Maureen Dowd.<br /><br />If she's hoping to have a baby soon, sperm clinics are probably her best bet.Thomasnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1534755698485813582012-05-15T17:00:50.092-07:002012-05-15T17:00:50.092-07:00"She was hated because she's an airhead, ..."She was hated because she's an airhead, and our possibility of her becoming the vice president seemed like a joke."<br /><br />That certainly explains the outrage at Joe Biden as Vice President.Udolpho.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12976984423336975944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-57242358446285970742012-05-15T16:53:56.550-07:002012-05-15T16:53:56.550-07:00Oprah is a lesbian. Perhaps Michelle is sick of th...<i>Oprah is a lesbian. Perhaps Michelle is sick of the LGBT crowd? <br /><br />PS Steve, you're not going to tell us that Oprah is a typical hetero female, are you?</i><br /><br />There's no evidence Oprah's lesbian, in fact prior to her playing the therapist on Ellen's coming out show in the late 1990s, there was never a single rumor about Oprah being gay, despite the fact that's she's been scrutinized constantly by the tabloids for 26 years.<br /><br />The gossip is that Michelle resents Oprah because Obama turned to Oprah for advice and not Michelle. She probably feels inferior because Oprah is a self-made woman, while Michelle had to marry into power, and even her husband needed Oprah to be his king maker (delivering over a million votes and incalculable momentum in the razor close to 2008 Democratic primary). <br /><br />If the gossip is true (and it's probably blown out of <br />proportion) Michelle probably feels upstaged that another (black) woman played the most important role in her husband's life, and everybody knows it.Catpersonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-46261739308256585532012-05-15T16:25:51.617-07:002012-05-15T16:25:51.617-07:00What do you call 'working'? I'd call t...<i>What do you call 'working'? I'd call that a life-long case of being bullied by higher-status males.</i><br /><br />Let's go one step further and call it wage slavery.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com