tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post8268636299111166189..comments2024-03-28T16:22:14.888-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: Crowd PsychologyUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-108780045178888542013-09-28T17:40:10.339-07:002013-09-28T17:40:10.339-07:00"Satanic Ritual Abuse, 911, Hysteria?
I'..."Satanic Ritual Abuse, 911, Hysteria?<br /><br />I'm not so sure the McMartin mess was "hysteria." While I've studied that case less than some other weird stories, it's not a closed case as far as I'm concerned. Like so many such scandals, the network leads all over the place. Even the MSM in England was forced to report on ominous connections to public figures surrounding the school shooting Scotland in 1996. And yes, it involved pedos.<br />The controlled media controlls the questions with a smack smack you conspiracy theorist. believe us or you die a humiliating death. Full stop.<br /><br /><br />911 hysteria? Two magic planes turned two of the tallest buildings on the planet to dust in, oh, a couple minutes with unburned papers fluttering to the ground, and we're not supposed to do a double take? <br /><br />Some over-hyped concerns may be classed as "hysteria." "White racism" and "sexism" (at least in western countries) currently fall into that category. But don't let the media tell you what to think. In fact, there's more truth in thinking the opposite of what they promote.<br /><br />Yes, and as another commenter noted, the Warren Commission, appointed by the man who most benefitted (immediately) from the assassination, and staffed with the dead president's mortal ennemies, concluded there was no reason for further investigation and LHO (Kennedy admirer & self-declared patsy) did it all by his lonesome.<br />well duh. <br /> I long since ceased to place any credence in that evil giant squid, the mainstream media.glorianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-22007939400350599772013-09-25T14:55:40.345-07:002013-09-25T14:55:40.345-07:00FWIW, the Warren Commission concluded that LHO act...FWIW, the Warren Commission concluded that LHO acted alone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-47784785511484504452013-09-24T23:52:13.474-07:002013-09-24T23:52:13.474-07:00FWIW, from Wikipedia: "A 1996 investigation o...FWIW, from Wikipedia: "A 1996 investigation of more than 12,000 allegations of satanic, ritual and religious abuse resulted in no cases that were considered factual or corroborated."<br /><br />Ray Sawhillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02434181069400646328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-25452143281555390452013-09-24T23:45:45.023-07:002013-09-24T23:45:45.023-07:00Satanic Ritual Abuse, 911, Hysteria?
Maybe not. Se...Satanic Ritual Abuse, 911, Hysteria?<br />Maybe not. See this link about the Presido.<br /><br />http://www.whale.to/b/aq2.html<br /><br />Excerpts in the link:<br /><br />...Tobins' son was examined at the Child Adolescent Sexual Abuse Referral Center (CASARC) at San Francisco General Hospital. CASARC reviews more than 700 cases of suspected sexual abuse every year. Among other things, the CASARC staff had often heard children describe anal rape as having a pencil put in their bottoms. When Dr. Kevin Coulter examined the Tobins' son, he observed that the child's anus dilated to approximately 20 millimeters in approximately five seconds, a much faster and wider dilation than normal. Coulter had conducted more than 300 examinations of children at CASARC. His conclusion was that such rapid and wide dilation was caused by trauma to the anus and rectum, consistent with penetration. The Tobins' 3-year-old son had been sexually abused, anally raped...<br /><br />...There were five confirmed cases of Chlamydia, a sexually transmitted disease, including two of the four daughters of one family...<br /><br />In the Boys Town case the Nebraska Senate investigator of the case called and said he had direct evidence. A farmer saw his plane explode and the plane and numerous photographs of child pornography floated down to Earth. Collected by the FBI and never seen again. <br /><br />http://educate-yourself.org/cn/franklincoverupexcerpt.shtml<br /><br />Maybe the children found in a van who when investigated had the investigation stopped by the CIA?<br /><br />http://educate-yourself.org/cn/ciadrugsabusemurder.shtml<br /><br />As for the UK's Jimmy Savile. His nephew said children as young as 10.<br /><br />http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2213636/Uncle-Jimmy-took-sick-parties-Nephew-tells-childhood-stolen-13.html<br /><br />The same thing happened in Portugal, many places in the UK, Belgium<br /><br />https://wikispooks.com/ISGP/dutroux/Belgian_X_dossiers_of_the_Dutroux_affair.htm<br /><br />, France, etc...<br /><br />911. You can claim conspiracy nut but not until you explain how building #7, which was not hit by a plane, fell at the acceleration rate of gravity.<br /><br />http://www.ae911truth.org/news/57-news-releases-by-others/426-freefall-and-building-7-on-911.html<br /><br /> The real reason many of you don't want to believe this is fear. Your nice world where you can vote and change things. Where you have some control and can guide your own lives is threatened by the truth. Just because you couldn't bring yourself to do some of these horrible things doesn't mean there aren't others who will. People who look at you like a crocodile looks at rabbits. Just meat. You say the King is wearing the finest clothes ever. I say he's naked.Samnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-49473768105826940342013-09-24T23:42:44.119-07:002013-09-24T23:42:44.119-07:00FWIW, from Wikipedia: "A 1996 investigation o...FWIW, from Wikipedia: "A 1996 investigation of more than 12,000 allegations of satanic, ritual and religious abuse resulted in no cases that were considered factual or corroborated."<br /><br />Ray Sawhillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02434181069400646328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-22775905442872075752013-09-24T13:40:37.181-07:002013-09-24T13:40:37.181-07:00Consider the very literal witch hunts of the 1980s...<i>Consider the very literal witch hunts of the 1980s-1990s Satanic Ritual Abuse in Nursery Schools delusion as an example of how people's strong feelings in one area can manifest themselves as obsessions in others.</i><br /><br />AFAICT, Satanism exists. Just as good people have an urge to religion, so do bad people. They seek the sort of religion where evil acts are permitted and even encouraged. They also seek out like-minded people to associate with. Consider L Ron Hubbard hanging out with Crowley. That is also a case in point that evil people are not all stupid. Some are smart, some are very smart.<br /><br />And when evil people get together, the acts they perform don't generally involve unicorns and rainbows. AFAICT, what they will choose to do is going to be the inverse of Christianity. Do the opposite of the ten commandments. Lie, steal, murder, cheat, commit adultery. And why stop there?<br /><br />Now what do you think intelligent, evil people do? They network, just like good or even only neutral, amoral people do. They network in such a way as to enable their evil actions. Look at the recent abuse scandals at Penn State for example. That was a network. Maybe not a Satanic one, but it illustrates the concept of networked, intelligent, evil people working together to perpetrate evil acts and prevent themselves from getting caught.<br /><br />I would not dismiss SRA out of hand, Steve.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-28577095256167279502013-09-24T11:20:07.531-07:002013-09-24T11:20:07.531-07:00But straight men are also attracted to post-pubesc...<i> But straight men are also attracted to post-pubescent youths, even if they are 15 or 16 years old. And many of them fixate on those kinds of girls to a disastrous extent. I only need mention the steady drumbeat of teachers and coaches fired for having sex with high school girls.</i><br /><br />Bob Robertson, a high school English teacher at Houston's Westbury High School, was just such a man. However, there was no disaster. He just married the girl. He went on to become a family court judge in Houston and served for many years.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-48606041581405907792013-09-24T09:40:16.552-07:002013-09-24T09:40:16.552-07:00Beefy, the link you post does not say what you say...Beefy, the link you post does not say what you say it does. It says that 81% of the victims were male. The closest figure to the one you claim is that 78% of victims were aged 11-17 (this includes males and females). This number includes both teenagers and pre-teenagers (assuming teenage starts at thirteen), as well as both prepubescent and postpubescent males and females, and so sheds little light on the question of the link between homosexuality and pederasty.<br /><br />Unfortunately, while Steve's figures are generally (not always) more accurate and less biased than the mainstream media's (and his questions are usually better), commenters on this site seem to frequently misrepresent facts, only tell one side of the story, or just make stuff up. For those of us who are interested in figuring out the truth about the matters discussed on this site, this is unhelpful.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-53736012587674007112013-09-24T06:35:36.991-07:002013-09-24T06:35:36.991-07:00Oh, yeah, it's projection. That and our Protes...Oh, yeah, it's projection. That and our Protestant-founded culture still hates the Catholic Church so it's a perfect target.Ecgberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06354592772973677609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-15907765107156821722013-09-24T06:23:30.851-07:002013-09-24T06:23:30.851-07:00Malachi Martin is about half-right on that. The l...Malachi Martin is about half-right on that. The lax standards actually began by the 50s, when the seminaries were still full. It wasn't about needing recruits, but about embracing modernity and what modern psychology was saying about how deviant behaviors like homosexuality could be cured with some therapy. Vatican II, a creation of clergy who came up through the seminaries before 1950 (Pope John XXIII, who called the council, was ordained in 1904), was a symptom of the changes that had already quietly been going on, though it certainly accelerated them.<br /><br />One priest who turned out to be a homosexual predator used to brag about how he had applied to 20+ seminaries before finding one that would accept him (this would have been in the late 50s). At the time, the lesson was supposed to be about perseverance and how his faith got him through despite the odds. But looking back, it seems like those seminaries -- which weren't hurting for men at all then -- recognized something in him that wasn't good, and it's too bad that last one didn't see it too.Cail Corishevhttp://cailcorishev.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-84799122651710158562013-09-24T05:55:38.105-07:002013-09-24T05:55:38.105-07:00Crowd psychology indeed.
McMartin Preschool. Fel...Crowd psychology indeed.<br /><br />McMartin Preschool. Fells Acres Daycare. Wee Care Nursery School. The hysteria begins, law enforcement gets involved, innocent people go to jail.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-91902150173666019352013-09-24T05:25:37.003-07:002013-09-24T05:25:37.003-07:00Over thirty years age, long before the Boston Glob...Over thirty years age, long before the Boston Globe started the scandal rolling, prominent Catholic conservatives like Malachi Martin were warning that a homosexual subculture had taken root in many Catholic seminaries and this was inevitably going to lead to problems for the Church. Martin traced the lax standards for filtering out homosexual and other deviant applicants for priesthood to a desperate need to recruit new members for the priesthood and a failure of moral principles in the wake of Vatican II. At the time he and others with the same message were dismissed as cranks. Ye shall reap what ye sow. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-30973973314553393782013-09-24T03:29:32.028-07:002013-09-24T03:29:32.028-07:00The Catholic sex mess plays to the blind spots of ...The Catholic sex mess plays to the blind spots of both the left and the right. The left doesn't want to believe the Church has a gay problem, while the right (the Catholic right, anyway) doesn't want to believe the Church has a sex problem.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-64981356976595506772013-09-24T01:40:26.068-07:002013-09-24T01:40:26.068-07:00In UKistan Harriet Harman was a leading campaigner...In UKistan Harriet Harman was a leading campaigner for ephebophiles and pederast rights and now she has a problem with the BBC and Jimmy Savile but not the Pakistani grooming gangs. The privileged caste of Ukistan is rich and stupid.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-2968820577647959822013-09-24T01:04:38.308-07:002013-09-24T01:04:38.308-07:00You've got a point Steve.
Currently in the UK...You've got a point Steve.<br /><br />Currently in the UK the witch-hunt is about aged male (heterosexual) TV personalities from the 1960s and 70s being accused of the rape and sexual abuse of teenaged girls, (sometimes aged under 16 at the time of the alleged attacks), who for one reason or another waited 50 years before making a complaint to the police.<br /> I can't help thinking that the prevailing zeitgeist behind the witch-hunt is the enormous 'empowerment' and elevation of women that has occurred in the UK of late, in particular after the New Labour regime of 1997-2010. Bsaically, in the UK, women are a privileged caste in the same way as blacks and gay are. The universal whipping boys are, as ever, white men.<br /> Contrast the way in which real, nasty sex abuse perpetrated by Pakistani gangs on white girls has been hushed up by the UK government. Or even the murder of Charlene Downes.<br /> All Dave Lee Travis ever did was to pinch the odd bottom - if you watch UK TV it seems like he was the Yorkshire Ripper. The Pakistani murderers of Charlene Downes are alleged to have minced her body in a meat grinder.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-28365025148629636892013-09-24T00:07:20.411-07:002013-09-24T00:07:20.411-07:00More horseshit from old, sour Steve Sailer. Typic...More horseshit from old, sour Steve Sailer. Typical antagonistic heterosexual behavior.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-79058937167763351372013-09-23T23:45:42.210-07:002013-09-23T23:45:42.210-07:00speaking of bisexuals, the last 2 HIV situations i...speaking of bisexuals, the last 2 HIV situations in the porn industry were caused by bisexual men. the one which just happened last month, and the previous one before that. but this is something they don't mention in the news stories and omit from the "condoms in porn?" discussion. you have to go to a porn forum to actually learn what happened.jodynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-53729005661122321232013-09-23T23:42:54.200-07:002013-09-23T23:42:54.200-07:00it was funny last week when gennifer flowers poppe...it was funny last week when gennifer flowers popped up after a 20 year hiatus and announced that hillary clinton was bisexual - a completely believable accusation, although uncomfirmed - and many liberals went into reflexive denial mode. "No she isn't!"<br /><br />hey wait a minute guys, i thought gay was cool? why are you so defensive, with that knee jerk reaction saying she's not? do you have a problem with her being a homo? i thought being a homo was great. what gives?<br /><br />it was interesting observing that moment of cognitive dissonce, watching many of them blurt out "No she's not!" as if there had just been a pre-emptive character attack on her that she'd have to overcome on her way to taking the presidency in 2016, then immediately regretting it, as their liberal indoctrination kicked in and they realized they weren't towing the homo line by blurting out reflexive defenses of homosexual character attacks.<br /><br />yeah, it's a problem if a person running for president is an open homosexual, and even most liberals instinctively react in the negative before the conditioning takes over. even worse, if she is a bisexual, that puts her in an even smaller minority, down from 4% where the homos are to like 1% where the bisexuals are. or she could just be a straight up homosexual who married bill as a matter of convenience - lots of homosexuals get married and have kids for purposes of appearances. or in her case, political gain.jodynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-74935174504941679742013-09-23T23:22:46.169-07:002013-09-23T23:22:46.169-07:00"I lived in gay communities in SF and NYC. Pe..."I lived in gay communities in SF and NYC. Pedophilia and male gaydom do go together. I believe my lying eyes."<br /><br />Well, if your emailer actually knew or had reasonable suspicions about adults having nonconsensual sex with minors, how many of them did he turn in? Even if the sex was consensual, it may have been a crime.<br /><br />One of the problems is all the things people "claim" to know, but really don't.<br /><br />Lying eyes, indeed.<br /><br />Of course, the sad flip side of this is how many people through the years did have a legitimate suspicion of child sex abuse and said and did nothing.<br /><br />It is possible that many of the accusations about sexual abuse by priests are true -- and that many are not.<br /><br />I will not deny that money can be a motivator for false accusations. But I also believe that after-the-fact money compensation does very little to really compensate those who were real victims. <br /><br />That is not to say that should not get it and don't deserve it. Only that given how much agony of all kinds they experienced (usually for many years) there is not enough money in the world to pay them back for their hurt, anger, lost peace of mind. Often many of these folks were very low wage earners even when their education would have put them into solid middle class jobs.<br /><br />I certainly do feel very sorry for the falsely accused. They seem to me, though, to be victims of a lying church hierarchy that was more self-protective than anything else. But of course Penn State did the same thing, didn't they?notsayingnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-45395813914197142662013-09-23T22:09:27.264-07:002013-09-23T22:09:27.264-07:00"His parishioners believe Father XYZ is innoc..."His parishioners believe Father XYZ is innocent."<br /><br />One can never put much stock in this (even if they happen to be correct here)...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-69552316750524514942013-09-23T21:56:55.872-07:002013-09-23T21:56:55.872-07:00The media are out to get the Church, plain and sim...<br />The media are out to get the Church, plain and simple. Have been for a long time. There is -- was -- a very small handful of pedophiles in the Church; most were ephebophiles -- homosexuals attracted to post-pubescent boys. The problem got lots of coverage with no one naming the real problem, insisting on calling it "pedophilia" instead (cue the scary music and a visual of a Roman collar). <br /><br />Read this article to catch up: <a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-215_162-1933687.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-215_162-1933687.html</a> A quote: <br /><br />"Hofstra University researcher Charol Shakeshaft looked into the problem, and the first thing that came to her mind when Education Week reported on the study were the daily headlines about the Catholic Church.<br /><br><br />"[T]hink the Catholic Church has a problem?" she said. "The physical sexual abuse of students in schools is likely more than 100 times the abuse by priests."<br /><br><br />So, in order to better protect children, did media outlets start hounding the worse menace of the school systems, with headlines about a "Nationwide Teacher Molestation Cover-up" and by asking "Are Ed Schools Producing Pedophiles?"<br /><br><br />No, they didn't. That treatment was reserved for the Catholic Church, while the greater problem in the schools was ignored altogether.<br /><br><br />As the National Catholic Register's reporter Wayne Laugesen points out, the federal report said 422,000 California public-school students would be victims before graduation — a number that dwarfs the state's entire Catholic-school enrollment of 143,000.<br /><br><br />Yet, during the first half of 2002, the 61 largest newspapers in California ran nearly 2,000 stories about sexual abuse in Catholic institutions, mostly concerning past allegations. During the same period, those newspapers ran four stories about the federal government's discovery of the much larger — and ongoing — abuse scandal in public schools."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-35488218919099457892013-09-23T21:29:03.123-07:002013-09-23T21:29:03.123-07:00I think it's more likely that Catholics are ly...I think it's more likely that Catholics are lying to themselves about the extent of the abuse to make themselves feel better. The John Jay Report, for example, is not quite <a href="http://ncronline.org/news/accountability/critics-point-john-jay-studys-limitations" rel="nofollow">as reliable</a> as it's made out to be. Turning it into a "gay problem" makes it easier to digest, nevermind the <a href="http://www.boston.com/globe/spotlight/abuse/stories4/020703_board.htm" rel="nofollow">little girls</a> abused by priests.<br /><br />I don't know where this "but white people are on welfare <i>too</i>!" type of whining comes from. Half of the scandal in these cases is the coverups by church hierarchy, and moving an accused pedophile priest from one parish to the next, where he still has access to children, without telling law enforcement. One unsubstantiated anecdote about "Father XYZ" doesn't make those cases any less severe.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-6057523909529231462013-09-23T20:41:31.988-07:002013-09-23T20:41:31.988-07:00@ Rex
The placement of a priest in any parish is ...@ Rex<br /><br />The placement of a priest in any parish is entirely at the discretion of his bishop.<br /><br />The Church has simply abandoned any priest who is accused of abuse.<br /><br />The parish priest has no legal recourse that would allow him to regain his job.Shouting Thomashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09813058890609756982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-31965370743029533672013-09-23T19:50:30.480-07:002013-09-23T19:50:30.480-07:00Something doesn't add up. If Father XYZ passe...Something doesn't add up. If Father XYZ passed a lie detector test and his parishioners believe he's innocent then who, exactly, is forcing him out? Seems to me he'd have legal recourse against them.<br />Rex LIttlenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-26936827104479207672013-09-23T18:48:31.045-07:002013-09-23T18:48:31.045-07:00"But straight men are also attracted to post-...<em>"But straight men are also attracted to post-pubescent youths, even if they are 15 or 16 years old."</em><br /><br />That's what's always been so insane about the push to let them be scoutmasters, for instance. No one would send a 30-year-old man out camping or into a locker room with a bunch of 15- to 17-year-old girls; he'd be squeezing the Charmin before long for sure. But we're supposed to believe that homosexual men will be <em>more</em> restrained than heteros around innocent (or not so innocent) youths.<br /><br />But it's not just that; there's a strong desire to recapture one's youth through fit, youthful partners in one strain of homosexuality. Pay attention to how many times one partner looks like a younger, fitter version of the other. Liberace took it to an extreme by having his boyfriend get surgery to turn him into a doppleganger, but that impulse isn't unusual. Straight men are attracted to nubile women, but rarely obsessed with their youth.<br /><br />That was the priest abuse scandal: self-loathing, effeminate men -- who should never have made it through the seminary, but the gates had been thrown wide open and the old rules abandoned -- obsessing over post-pubescent teenage boys, and getting away with it because no one expected it or could quite believe it even when they did.Cail Corishevhttp://cailcorishev.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.com