tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post8569257505043889035..comments2024-03-27T18:24:19.683-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: Bridesmaids RevisitedUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger109125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-30082241169535351722011-05-28T15:19:19.001-07:002011-05-28T15:19:19.001-07:00this article is oh predictable... Black women are ...this article is oh predictable... Black women are rated the least physically attractive...by whom may I ask?<br /><br />most black men prefer black women, so who is rating black women the least attractive? could it be already biased/brainwashed people, such as yourself?...<br /><br />Im a black woman, I personally wasn't offended by the article, I found it funny actually and I took it as a teaching opportunity. it was an opportunity to demonstrate what ignorance looks like and how 'science' or pseudoscience can be manipulated to prove a point just like anything else...you know all about that...<br /><br />http://www.dawnali.com/lovinmysistas/index.php?topic=50.msg209#msg209Candacehttp://www.dawnali.com/lovinmysistas/index.php?topic=4154.msg32763#msg32763noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-62980833798268833992011-05-22T19:55:54.319-07:002011-05-22T19:55:54.319-07:00"Humour from women is not only not sexually a..."Humour from women is not only not sexually attractive to men, it is a positive deterrent to men's sexual interest in a woman."<br /><br />This is one insecure man. Please--stay deterred. We can stand the loss.<br /><br />A guy who never ever laughed (sincerely) at my little jokes that others found funny, would just be too weird. Bye bye. Humor you share. My happiest moments have been making people laugh.<br /><br />Historically there were "classes" of women trained in the arts of love and entertainment, whose duty and profession was to humor the depressed or manic pasha, to make him laugh, or at least smile and feel benevolent. In the case of Sheharezade it was a matter of life and death, lest she end as his previous wives. Her stories had all the human elements, including humor. Humor was a crucial element in the success of any saloniere of the 18th century, and poets and philosophers paid tribute to such women.baubonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-28379334009204134902011-05-22T18:58:17.230-07:002011-05-22T18:58:17.230-07:00"The average straight man's dream is a wo..."The average straight man's dream is a woman who looks like a woman, but who's emotionally built like a man, meaning that she can get and make jokes, can be excited about typically male hobbies, isn't bitchy or flighty, is capable of being loyal, etc."<br /><br />Who looks like a woman. Does this wet dream include ANY feminine non-phsyical traits that you admire? Any nice things you ascribe to women other than the proverbial bosoms and bottoms? Or just a guy in a female body so you don't have to be called a homo? Perhaps a transsexual would be ideal.<br /><br />Still, the only word that really baffles me is "loyal." While I dno't dispute the loyalty of some men, a male researcher who had studied prison culture, noted that men in prison are visited by their various female relatives and paramours on a regular basis, but women in prison are never visited by men. A woman in prison is forgotten by any man she may have had, Lenny Bruce's wife being a notable exception to that.<br />While i have a hard time believing that no men ever visit them, i never forgot that observation. Something about it rings true. I don't think one has to go to prison to find out the truth.loyal foilnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-50735823760278521382011-05-20T11:56:16.814-07:002011-05-20T11:56:16.814-07:00many guys, because they associate humor with jokes...<i>many guys, because they associate humor with jokes and belly-laughs, simply don't recognize it when women are being funny.</i> <br /><br />I never, ever, get a belly-laugh from a formal "joke", complete with careful setup and punch-line. I think a large part of humor stems from the unexpected, and the calculated and memorized "joke" can never be unexpected. In fact I hate it when when somebody tries to tell me one of those stories-with-a-punch-line type efforts, because I know I'll never be able to respond with more than a forced smile.<br /><br />And I'm a guy. A more than usually masculine guy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-30316084145648190072011-05-20T11:43:33.633-07:002011-05-20T11:43:33.633-07:00Men are funny to attract women (after all, everyth...<i>Men are funny to attract women (after all, everything else they do is a courtship behaviour).</i> <br /><br /><i>Humour from women is not only not sexually attractive to men, it is a positive deterrent to men's sexual interest in a woman.</i> <br /><br />Honey, you have some serious issues with men. Dial down the misandry a notch and you'll find we're not such bad people.<br /><br />Side note: The spell check function knows about the word "misogyny" but is unaware of "misandry". That seems telling, somehow.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-26264330201389239032011-05-20T11:36:48.329-07:002011-05-20T11:36:48.329-07:00I wouldn't argue that women don't tell jok...<i>I wouldn't argue that women don't tell jokes, of course. But it seems plain as day to me that they aren't generally as driven to formulate and tell jokes as guys are.</i> <br /><br />I don't think that guys are as driven to tell jokes as you and some other commeters here are suggesting. I'm a guy, and I'm not a joke teller. Most of the guys I know are not joke tellers either. Which is not to say that we can't be funny, but we're not into the whole routine of memorizing and retelling jokes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-9445579069411537952011-05-19T21:44:08.346-07:002011-05-19T21:44:08.346-07:00"Humour from women is not only not sexually a...<i>"Humour from women is not only not sexually attractive to men, it is a positive deterrent to men's sexual interest in a woman."</i><br /><br />Are you joking no question mark.<br /><br />If I weren't funny, I'd've died cherry.Kylienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-54652770009390414682011-05-19T20:18:20.776-07:002011-05-19T20:18:20.776-07:00"BECAUSE MEN DON'T LIKE FUNNY WOMEN."..."BECAUSE MEN DON'T LIKE FUNNY WOMEN."<br /><br />This is complete nonsense. I've also heard unintelligent women say that men don't like their women to be intelligent, I've heard older women say that men don't like younger, inexperienced women, etc. Transparent self-rationalization. <br /><br />The average straight man's dream is a woman who looks like a woman, but who's emotionally built like a man, meaning that she can get and make jokes, can be excited about typically male hobbies, isn't bitchy or flighty, is capable of being loyal, etc.<br /><br />So yes, most men would love their women to be funny.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-47439141810558652982011-05-19T19:51:50.721-07:002011-05-19T19:51:50.721-07:00Hey, I like funny women, and I even married one. H...Hey, I like funny women, and I even married one. Humor is very very sweet 'n' sexy, as far as I'm concerned. What can I say, I like a woman with some sparkle.<br /><br />Just for the heck of it, I'll repeat my contention that women don't tend to cultivate the whole "telling jokes" thang. But they can be extremely funny, malicious, mischievous, and hilarious anyway, in their own way. <br /><br />My wife, for one example, frequently says things that make people laugh. She has these daffy, hard-to-explain flashes of insight and malice and inspiration, and they come out of her with bizarrely charming and fresh emotional colorations. (She even comes out with oddball and funny lines when she's half asleep and unconscious of what she's saying.) She just has an effortlessly skewed and surprising way of seeing life and expressing things. Yet she never, ever tells a joke. She's rather disdainful of jokes, to be honest. I think she sees them as a lame, mechanical, crude, easy way of trying to get laughs. That said, she has a lot of respect for anyone who can give people a lot of pleasure by making them laugh.<br /><br />I wouldn't argue that women don't tell jokes, of course. But it seems plain as day to me that they aren't generally as driven to formulate and tell jokes as guys are.Ray Sawhillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02434181069400646328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-70849638761086398352011-05-19T18:23:09.088-07:002011-05-19T18:23:09.088-07:00Grr. I can't believe that the most obvious poi...Grr. I can't believe that the most obvious points about women's humour have been, once again, neglected by the silly men who write these pieces.<br /><br />Here are a couple of rejoinders to the idea that men are funny and women are not.<br />- 1) Men are funny to attract women (after all, everything else they do is a courtship behaviour).<br />- 2) This fact presupposes that women have at least enough of a sense of humour to laugh at men's jokes. <br />- 3) If women are able to laugh at men's jokes, there is at least a possibility that some of us can tell our own jokes.<br />- 4) Why do we not do so? Well, it is at least a possibility that we don't tell jokes BECAUSE MEN DON'T LIKE FUNNY WOMEN. No, really, you don't. Oh, you might laugh at a few jokes told by women if the laughter was positively squeezed out of you - but you wouldn't dream of finding such women attractive. (C'mon, I dare you - which of the men reading this is going to say "I love funny women"?)<br />- 5) Humour from women is not only not sexually attractive to men, it is a positive deterrent to men's sexual interest in a woman. <br />- 6) Naturally, under such circumstances, no woman is going to display the fact that she has a sense of humour to any man - except when she is laughing at HIS jokes. <br /><br />Alias ClioAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-43454442748511235472011-05-19T14:47:57.348-07:002011-05-19T14:47:57.348-07:00"My point is that a typical guy would not cal..."My point is that a typical guy would not call anyone who talks trash about him behind his back, anyone who constantly undermines him just for the fun of it, a friend."<br /><br />I think that sort of relationship is actually fairly common between men in elementary school, high school, even college, and sometimes even in adulthood. Unless "behind his back" is the key phrase - these dominant/weaker (I almost broke my vow never to say alpha/beta) "friendships" often include open mockery to the weaker one's face.James Kabalahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02335302113772004687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-25021675775858695352011-05-19T14:04:38.396-07:002011-05-19T14:04:38.396-07:00"This is because they have narrow waists (lik..."This is because they have narrow waists (like that French runner Lemaitre)"<br /><br />Not waists, I meant hips.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-69688330368336237042011-05-19T13:32:30.007-07:002011-05-19T13:32:30.007-07:00I have an impression that black men can go to a lo...I have an impression that black men can go to a lower fat percentage 5-6 percent versus white 8 percent and still be "in shape". It does not mean anything in athletics, though. The reason why the blacks are better athletes (in your sports, that is) is that they run faster (sometimes greater limb lenght also counts). This is because they have narrow waists (like that French runner Lemaitre) which makes them able to run with their tights. White boys on the other hand run with their calfs. I don`t know why our mechanics is like that. Maybe because our ancestors walked in mountainous terrain etc. <br /> Many black athletes have so-called "chicken legs". Does it matter if you have weak lower legs? I don`t know if this makes them unimpressive swimmers. In MMA it`s also not so good, because lower legs can be kicked.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-76659401489411225202011-05-19T10:38:32.571-07:002011-05-19T10:38:32.571-07:00"It's true that they snipe, backbite, feu..."It's true that they snipe, backbite, feud and gossip about each other a lot more than guys do..."<br /><br />My point is that a typical guy would not call anyone who talks trash about him behind his back, anyone who constantly undermines him just for the fun of it, a friend. That would actually be an enemy. So in that sense, by that specifically-male definition of friendship, most women do not have any friends. In my observation they seem to use the word friend to mean "the person with whom one talks most frequently about personal matters", not "someone one wishes well, is loyal to, has affection for". Those are two very different definitions. <br /><br />"Yet actresses and other gal-performers routinely make large audiences laugh, and women routinely send each other into hysterics."<br /><br />Perhaps a quarter to a third of all the people opining on sports and politics on TV are women. I really, really don't think that this is because a quarter to a third of all the people who are passionately interested in and are deeply knowledgeable about sports and politics are women. The gender representation seems to be politically determined. I'm sure that the same works for comediennes on TV. People in suits have discussions about the scarcity of women on SNL, and then, surprise, surprise, more women appear on SNL. It's not audience- or talent-driven, not at that particular margin anyway. <br /><br />Without political pressure, how many famous female comedians would there be? Perhaps as many as female sports journalists if there was no political pressure to include more women in sports journalism.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-48238713045595009012011-05-19T06:10:16.197-07:002011-05-19T06:10:16.197-07:00Thanks Ray Sawhill. Generally agree with you on fr...Thanks Ray Sawhill. Generally agree with you on friendship/humor. There are reasons I Love Lucy re-runs will soon be entering their third quarter century mark.Lucille McGillicuddynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-7217102998780806872011-05-18T22:52:38.604-07:002011-05-18T22:52:38.604-07:00I think the issue with body fat is not that black ...<i>I think the issue with body fat is not that black men have less body fat than white men, but that the black men with the lowest body fat have lower body fat than the white men with the lowest body fat.</i> <br /><br /><i>In other words, for example, the leanest 1% of black guys are leaner than the leanest 1% of white guys.</i> <br /><br /><br />Is that your hunch, or do you have studies backing it up?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-62211319505386671712011-05-18T22:18:08.244-07:002011-05-18T22:18:08.244-07:00Also FWIW: I think guy-humor and gal-humor tend to...Also FWIW: I think guy-humor and gal-humor tend to be very different, and I think this tends to confuse the discussions people have about humor and the sexes. Guys tend to be drawn to showoffy, confrontational, jokey stuff while women tend to be more into malicious-insight and character humor. There aren't many women who can do standup comedy with the best of the guys -- but there aren't many guys who can do dizzy character stuff with the best of the girls. Lisa Kudrow, for instance, is an amazing high-style comedienne. My wife is a writer who has published a lot of humor pieces. They're pretty darn funny, but they're joke-free. In fact, I don't think I've ever heard her tell a joke.<br /><br />Most gals just aren't drawn to joke-telling ... Which leads me to suspect that joke-telling is a bit like shooting guns, running into things, and launching things -- a pretty direct expression of (or outlet for) testosterone. <br /><br />Final hunch: many guys, because they associate humor with jokes and belly-laughs, simply don't recognize it when women are being funny. (And god knows in everyday life women can be moody, tormented downers.) Yet actresses and other gal-performers routinely make large audiences laugh, and women routinely send each other into hysterics.Ray Sawhillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02434181069400646328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-45487516940611100222011-05-18T22:13:34.880-07:002011-05-18T22:13:34.880-07:00FWIW, I've got a number of gal friends who'...FWIW, I've got a number of gal friends who've been friends with each other for over 30 years. It's true that they snipe, backbite, feud and gossip about each other a lot more than guys do -- and only a really idiotic man would get involved in any of it. But they've also stuck it out with each other through thick and thin for a long, long time -- much longer than many guy-friendships have. Guys, I find, often drop their guy-friendships once they marry. They're still buds if/when they get together .. it just doesn't happen very often.Ray Sawhillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02434181069400646328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-53700989596379029602011-05-18T20:31:18.912-07:002011-05-18T20:31:18.912-07:00"What is on your list of really major feminis...<i>"What is on your list of really major feminist 'misdeeds?'"</i><br /><br />In the context of this discussion, my list is irrelevant. I'm not a man.Kylienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-91166289122509242922011-05-18T19:53:48.783-07:002011-05-18T19:53:48.783-07:00Kylie "Some men have never forgiven feminists...Kylie "Some men have never forgiven feminists for the false claim that men don't have real friendships as women do."<br /><br />This comes as a surprise to me. <br /><br />"With all the misdeeds committed by feminists that men have yet to forgive them for, I would have thought the false claim that men don't have real friendships would have been pretty far down the list/"<br /><br />I have read it mentioned fairly often, but probably more as an aside with other complaints. I don't know how seriously most men who have ever paid attention to feminist assertions feel about this particular "accusation" but some have sounded bitter about it.<br />What is on your list of really major feminist "misdeeds?"lesleynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-83655310356968823152011-05-18T19:37:08.684-07:002011-05-18T19:37:08.684-07:00I think this will be the near future of movies, an...I think this will be the near future of movies, and cable dramedies. Maya Rudolph is more of a pre-Title IX comedienne, with the aforementioned versatility and a faint quality of outsiderness (I'm not saying awkwardness) that had to come from somewhere although perhaps not upbringing in this case; whereas this Kristina Whig person is the new wave--fleetingly amusing, nice to look at, sometimes just mugs manically but leans hard on the "overly knowing" shtick. Or that might just be SNL generally. However I feel next to zero copaceticity with such performers. And I really dunno about the box office for passive-aggressive femininity but, as history is ever written by the writers, have to figure this style of entertainment is what achiever alumnae of well-ranked postsecondary institutions (n.b. apparently doesn't include Ms. KW at all) really want put up on the screen when they seize/are-provided-with the opportunity, and whether it settles some Conde Nast-level argument or merely serves its niche is moot cuz I drearily suppose this is type of thing routinely gets remade through the next 10-15 years. Now they're fixin' to install a woman into the IMF chair, is nothing sacred? (cf. highly SWPL article in tomorrow's NYTimes, complete with "The Daily Show" seal-of-approval) p.s. I don't not find Mrs. Obama attractive but may just be mixed up by her natural resemblance to her handsome devil of a brother, Craig Robinson (who was of course was rapturously received in the local press that I read in Rhode Island, during his far-too-brief stint there)Not Norman Mailernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-81457038480733632662011-05-18T19:36:53.835-07:002011-05-18T19:36:53.835-07:00"Deep politics"!!! Yes, I agree, women h..."Deep politics"!!! Yes, I agree, women have real friendships to exactly the same extent that they're interested in deep politics.<br /><br />All 4 billion of them, too. Well, it's actually less than 3.5 billion. Which reminds me of something!! Women are ableexperience real friendships with each other to exactly the same extent that they're comfortable with numbers. And logic."<br /><br />god--Anonymous thy name is Lame. Forget me -- do YOU have any friends? Male? Female? Other? Squirrels?<br /><br /> I'd originally put 3.5 billion but just decided to pre-empt the next increment with a round number because I've been reading so much about the rapidly spiralling pop. growth. Some are predicting 10 billion in the not too distant future. The important idea is half the world's population. 50% Get it? As the Brits say, easy as lemon squeezy. <br /><br /> This is not a conspiracy website, except as regards feminism and HBD (the latter is why I'm here.) On these subjects, the gentlemen constantly invoke the mysteries of conspiracy, and they may be right.<br /><br />Surely you know "Deep Politics" was a book by Peter Dale Scott, inspired by the enigma of the JFK assassination; for me the term is short hand for a host of other books and media on the subject--the government within a government. The reasons behind the stated reasons. http://www.deeppoliticsforum.com/<br /><br />Most of my friends agree to some extent. Taking all this seriously is not a requirement for friendship, but most are at least open to getting more information. When we are among friends regardless of their biological characteristics, we wish to be understood and communicate openly. <br /><br />If that seems "illogical" to you--well, I'm not surprised.lesleynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-26022549274244893452011-05-18T19:27:27.723-07:002011-05-18T19:27:27.723-07:00"Some men have never forgiven feminists for t...<i>"Some men have never forgiven feminists for the false claim that men don't have real friendships as women do."</i><br /><br />This comes as a surprise to me. <br /><br />With all the misdeeds committed by feminists that men have yet to forgive them for, I would have thought the false claim that men don't have real friendships would have been pretty far down the list.Kylienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-83358136391280766682011-05-18T18:51:13.457-07:002011-05-18T18:51:13.457-07:00"Just how did things go between Arthur Miller..."Just how did things go between Arthur Miller and Marilyn Monroe? This is why Jewish men bang blonde bimbo callgirls but marry smart women they can have conversations with."<br /><br />My two best friends look as good as Bachman or Pelosi for their respective ages. Political men should go for plastic surgery too. I will never forget Don Imus (who else) mocking the triple chin of whoever was running against Bush in 2000. And that was a man mocking a man's elderly appearance. <br />People who live in glass houses....imanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-26043491780066007332011-05-18T18:35:31.239-07:002011-05-18T18:35:31.239-07:00"I have several best friends all female and a..."I have several best friends all female and all of many years duration. We have in common a love and concern for each other (despite differences), for our families, for spiritual growth, for literature and good films; alternative health and deep politics; and animal welfare. We're not that exceptional. Most of the 4 billion females in the world have friendships."<br /><br />"Deep politics"!!! Yes, I agree, women have real friendships to exactly the same extent that they're interested in deep politics.<br /><br />All 4 billion of them, too. Well, it's actually less than 3.5 billion. Which reminds me of something!! Women are able to experience real friendships with each other to exactly the same extent that they're comfortable with numbers. And logic.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com