tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post8747301142244951957..comments2024-03-19T02:31:02.140-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: On the Internet, nobody knows you're a white guyUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger53125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-37967044601843622872007-08-10T09:32:00.000-07:002007-08-10T09:32:00.000-07:00Markos couldn't pass for German, but he could pass...<I>Markos couldn't pass for German, but he could pass for Italian or Spanish or Greek. </I><BR/><BR/>"Pass for"? What do you mean?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-380649745799285522007-08-09T22:53:00.000-07:002007-08-09T22:53:00.000-07:00Asian-Americans don't punch their weight in litera...Asian-Americans don't punch their weight in literature because they're receiving a terrible education in literature. Do you know what high school freshmen read in California? Sherman Alexie and Maya Angelou. I doubt it's much better in the other states. And it's not culturally permissable on a broad scale for Asian Americans to sit around and read, and they don't have the writing community that the Jews or the Irish. Add that to the fact that they're completely failed by the educational system in this area, and you have your explanation.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08987673828766436312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-10573927291944001272007-08-09T12:58:00.000-07:002007-08-09T12:58:00.000-07:00Many years ago (about 1989), I had occasion to att...Many years ago (about 1989), I had occasion to attend the California Republican Party convention, and the North American Students of Co-operation convention within a few months of each other. NASCO is a very granola-lefty organization; it's a group of student-housing cooperatives from around the U.S. and Canada.<BR/><BR/>The NASCO convention was noticeably whiter, with most of the non-whites present being part of the Berkeley contingent. <BR/><BR/>Berkeley's student co-ops were about half the price of the dorms, and had a "strong committment to diversity" in its political operations. So we had lots of non-white members, and exercised AA in selecting who got the plum of going to NASCO.Anthonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12389602137217799305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-47848124308015934752007-08-09T12:54:00.000-07:002007-08-09T12:54:00.000-07:00To the guy who thinks Markos looks "mixed-breed", ...To the guy who thinks Markos looks "mixed-breed", you must consider mediterranean whites as a different breed than northern european whites. Markos couldn't pass for German, but he could pass for Italian or Spanish or Greek.<BR/><BR/><I>"I think it actually highlights a point which Steve may have once made, namely that successful, well-educated, and non-ethnic-activist Latinos in America are somehow no longer considered "Latino," hence skew the mental image/model of that particular ethnic group."</I><BR/><BR/>Go back and look up the Cheney shotgun incident. Half the guys Bush and Cheney were out hunting with had Spanish last names. Though somehow I doubt that even if Cheney had hit one of them that the NYT would have run the headline "Cheney shoots Hispanic bigwig in hunting accident".Anthonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12389602137217799305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-28966775663889096882007-08-09T11:48:00.000-07:002007-08-09T11:48:00.000-07:00...whenever white American liberals threaten to le...<I>...whenever white American liberals threaten to leave, or actually do leave the US, it's always for Canada, New Zealand, or Sweden</I><BR/><BR/>Indeed. That is the macro white migration direction. Rarely do they go to nations that are the dusky jewels of the planet.<BR/><BR/>And the micro migration is almost always from a darker to a whiter neighborhood also. The number of white liberal families who move to minority majority neighborhoods is tiny. Those that do bless us with red diaper babies.<BR/><BR/>It wouldn't matter if the available destinations were neighborhoods, states, nations or planets. For a liberal social justice means enforced diversity for those must who stick around when society darkens, and pleasant safe white society for those who have the means to escape.<BR/><BR/>When you think about it, the hypocrite white liberal diversity escape artist is one of the sickest things on this planet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-75110056839033722652007-08-09T08:12:00.000-07:002007-08-09T08:12:00.000-07:00... and the non-existent Jewish demographic catego...<I> ... and the non-existent Jewish demographic category (which is tied directly to the non-existence of a Middle-Eastern demographic category ... </I><BR/><BR/>What are you trying to say? You think there should be an official Jewish category, along with "white" or Hispanic"?<BR/><BR/><I>White male elitist liberals (who contrary to popular opinion don't fear being "losers" but want to control the populace through an aristocracy) have the time and money required for blogging.<BR/>For blogging you need a computer, which is not free. Time to devote to blogging, which is not free. Generally, your own site if traffic ramps up (which costs). Technical expertise in such things as HTML, CSS, PHP, MySQL to maintain your site or the money to hire someone to do it. Enough free time/money to develop a plan to get your site more attention. And so on. </I><BR/><BR/>Read the news. Kos and his buddy get paid to tout politicians and Linux stocks. Kos is a wannabe eilitist.<BR/><BR/><I> ... in fact it detracts from their time in the gym and other activities to keep them thin and beautiful to attract the higher status guy ...</I><BR/><BR/>We can guess who furtively ogles girls at the gym.<BR/><BR/><BR/><I>... Whereas even a lame-o pseudo-celebrity via blogging can attract a lot of women.</I><BR/><BR/>It sure works for Steve! How women throw themselves at him! ( He won't admit that here, cuz he's still married. )<BR/><BR/><I>Kos is pretty white, too. ...<BR/>But most people who never knew the guy was part Hispanic would never guess he was anything but white.</I><BR/><BR/>No, Kos definitely looks to be a mixed breed. <BR/><BR/><I>(Just count the number of cognates (similar words) in, say, Hindi and English and you will see why it is much easier for an Indian to learn any European language than a Japanese.) </I><BR/><BR/>Hindi IS an Indo-European language. Hence the "Indo" part of the label. The Indian caste system exists because Caucasoids - Aryans, if you'll pardon the expression -- invaded the subcontinent thousands of years ago and interbred with the conquered locals. Contemporary higher caste Indians are usually paler skinned.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-81175321620068181842007-08-08T08:03:00.000-07:002007-08-08T08:03:00.000-07:00Yes, I think it's likely that tall, athletic white...<I>Yes, I think it's likely that tall, athletic white American guys aren't going all out for basketball as much anymore, probably due to black dominance of the game. Who was the last white American All-Star game player? Brad Miller a few years ago? There are remarkably few white American NBA stars of any magnitude these days, especially compared to the number of white European, South American, and Canadian stars. <BR/><BR/>I suspect that white guys who could have done well in the NBA are getting guided by their parents into whiter sports like playing goalie in soccer, pitching in baseball, or perhaps lacrosse.</I><BR/><BR/>I think the biggest problem for whites in basketball has been the change in the nature of the game.<BR/><BR/>As recently as about the mid-1980's, basketball was still a very fluid, graceful game, in which a player with great learned skills - but not necessarily with such great inherent athleticism - could excel at the game.<BR/><BR/>But as David Stern allowed the game to descend into chaos in the late 1980's, especially with the rise of Chuck Daly & the Detroit "Bad Boys", the game became so violent that whites just couldn't compete at it any more.<BR/><BR/>Enforce the rulebook [much less physical contact, no travelling, no walking, no palming, no hooking, etc], and white guys can compete.<BR/><BR/>But, by and large, in a game of jungle ball [lots of physical contact - leaning, holding, grabbing, elbowing, shoving; superstar rules, where superstars can take 3 or 4 steps without dribbling before they dunk the ball, or where superstars are allowed to palm the ball while making their "move"], and white guys are up a creek without a paddle.<BR/><BR/>By the way, you see the converse of this in international play nowadays: When the refs enforce the rules [FIBA championships, Olympics, etc], it turns out that white guys can compete [because skills like perimeter shooting become important again] - and not only compete, but win - while the players of the [generally 100% African-American] USA team are proved to be the poseurs that really they are.<BR/><BR/>PS: To a certain extent, I think this is also coming to be true of modern football. The game is getting so violent [with e.g. defensive players accelerating to 25MPH+ and delivering forearm shots to the head, or accelerating to similar speeds and lowering their heads and using their helmets as battering rams], that a lot of guys are looking at the contact they would have to absorb, and saying to themselves, "Uh, no thanks."<BR/><BR/>And don't tell me that it's always been that way. I saw a special on Chuck Bednarik a while back - Bednarik was the last man to play both ways [center on offense, linebacker on defense, on the 1960 championship team] - and he was widely regarded as the meanest, nastiest dude to ever play the game.<BR/><BR/>But Bednarik's style [like all the other players of his day] was to run up next to a player, grab him with his arms, and wrestle him to the ground.<BR/><BR/>I think the idea that you should lower your head and use your helmet as a battering ram would have struck even 1950's or 1960's era football players as insane - because even that recently, they all understood that your skull is the bone which contains your brain.<BR/><BR/>And similarly, I doubt that the referees of that era would have allowed the forearm shivers to the skull that offensive players are routine expected to absorb nowadays - I imagine that kinduva shot would have gotten the defender ejected from the game.<BR/><BR/>As my brother says, if the NFL doesn't tone down the violence, then pretty soon, they're gonna be leaving somebody dead on the field.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-72602904952144471012007-08-08T06:04:00.000-07:002007-08-08T06:04:00.000-07:00By Anonymous, at 8/07/2007 2:18 PM said "It is thi...By Anonymous, at 8/07/2007 2:18 PM said "It is this self-congratulation that makes iSteve sometimes difficult to read."<BR/><BR/>The truth hurts, doesn't it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-74264024475499966702007-08-07T22:02:00.000-07:002007-08-07T22:02:00.000-07:00"Have whites lost interest in basketball because t..."Have whites lost interest in basketball because they don't dominate it?"<BR/><BR/>Yes, I think it's likely that tall, athletic white American guys aren't going all out for basketball as much anymore, probably due to black dominance of the game. Who was the last white American All-Star game player? Brad Miller a few years ago? There are remarkably few white American NBA stars of any magnitude these days, especially compared to the number of white European, South American, and Canadian stars. <BR/><BR/>I suspect that white guys who could have done well in the NBA are getting guided by their parents into whiter sports like playing goalie in soccer, pitching in baseball, or perhaps lacrosse.<BR/><BR/>Similarly, I think the rise of Kenyan distance runners took the heart out of white American distance runners. Back in the 1960s, three white high school boys ran the mile in under four minutes, but then Kip Keino beat one of them, Jim Ryun, in the 1968 Olympics and it was about a third of a century before another white high school boy broke the 4 minute barrier.Steve Sailerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11920109042402850214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-2348158347348203812007-08-07T21:50:00.000-07:002007-08-07T21:50:00.000-07:00- Apparently, African-Americans have in recent dec...<I>- Apparently, African-Americans have in recent decades tended to lose interest in fields that they can't dominate numerically and thus culturally: e.g., they've come to dominate the NBA and NFL, while losing interest in baseball.</I><BR/><BR/>Dear Mr. Steve Sailer,<BR/><BR/>At some point in the future you might want to explain your theory of the inverse.<BR/><BR/>- Have whites lost interest in basketball because they don't dominate it?<BR/><BR/>- Why have whites, who dominate baseball, lost interest in the sport?<BR/><BR/>- Why do blacks continue to insist on playing quarterback despite not dominating the position? Why does it seem like the % of black QBs is growing and not declining?<BR/><BR/>- Also, I wouldn't be surprised if the typical DKos poster was more likely to be not-white than the typical TNR writer, but I have no data on this.<BR/><BR/>For the record, I'm white, I post on DKos, and even though I live in Vegas, i did not attend Ykos last year because it didn't seem like a cool thing to do. Also, I'm a lame white nerd who blogs a bit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-74376988276177448812007-08-07T20:04:00.000-07:002007-08-07T20:04:00.000-07:00So now is the time to demand that minorities be ma...So now is the time to demand that minorities be mandated their fair share of postings on Dailykos.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-2014601658682576432007-08-07T19:21:00.000-07:002007-08-07T19:21:00.000-07:00Similarly, despite the 'cultural richness' of Mexi...Similarly, despite the 'cultural richness' of Mexico and Ethiopia, for some reason whenever white American liberals threaten to leave, or actually do leave the US, it's always for Canada, New Zealand, or Sweden. All of this is purely coincidental, of course.C. Van Carterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09918883799053031223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-87456133493270383112007-08-07T19:17:00.000-07:002007-08-07T19:17:00.000-07:00re:"I think it actually highlights a point which S...re:"I think it actually highlights a point which Steve may have once made, namely that successful, well-educated, and non-ethnic-activist Latinos in America are somehow no longer considered "Latino," hence skew the mental image/model of that particular ethnic group."<BR/><BR/>I suspect so as well. I know quite a few highly educated Latinos of European background (Spanish, Italian, German...even one Irish Bolivian redhead!!!!) who consider themselves (and are considered by others) to be white.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-34522227811706354372007-08-07T19:09:00.000-07:002007-08-07T19:09:00.000-07:00re:"b. Immigrants from Latin America are overwhelm...re:"b. Immigrants from Latin America are overwhelmingly not the educated elite from their own country (who would be good at doing the opinion blogging thing, albeit in Spanish), and 1st/2nd generation immigrants tend to be more focused on financial well being than on ideas. <BR/><BR/>I'm not sure how much of the phenomenon either of these explains."<BR/><BR/>I think that actually explains quite a lot. Consider the vast difference between how South Asians are perceived in the US with how Latino are perceived. South Asians immigrants to the US tend to be disproportionately Upper Caste Hindus or Upper Class educated Muslims (I would estimate these groups have an average IQ well over 100). OTOH immigrant Latinos tend to be overwhemingly working class mestizo or mulattos with an average IQ of between 88 -90. This explains a lot, whether we're talking representation in blogging, politics, or for that matter, economic success. OTOH, if the majority of Indian immigrants consisted of low IQ low caste Hindu untouchables, I suspect you'd see very different perceptions of South Asian immigrants.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-40082153566947257032007-08-07T17:44:00.000-07:002007-08-07T17:44:00.000-07:00"Bloggers blog to attract women"...now that is a s..."Bloggers blog to attract women"...now that is a scarey notion!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-37752674835770065022007-08-07T17:20:00.000-07:002007-08-07T17:20:00.000-07:00Asians have high IQ but low testosterone. Blacks ...Asians have high IQ but low testosterone. Blacks have high testosterone but low IQ. In America, the political sweet spot is in the middle, where you find all the whites.<BR/><BR/>When Asians really care about something, they don't "stir up trouble" over it, they just <A HREF="http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1998/01/30/temple/" REL="nofollow">bribe white politicians</A>.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-28053180888697341062007-08-07T16:51:00.000-07:002007-08-07T16:51:00.000-07:00Old Right,Re; East Asians, they're still largely a...Old Right,<BR/><BR/>Re; East Asians, they're still largely an immigrant population, and the gap between E Asian languages and Indo-European languages is quite vast. (Just count the number of cognates (similar words) in, say, Hindi and English and you will see why it is much easier for an Indian to learn any European language than a Japanese.)<BR/><BR/>All the NE Asian countries have long and well-developed literary traditions. The consumption rate of books in those countries is very high.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-61896354785067217262007-08-07T15:57:00.000-07:002007-08-07T15:57:00.000-07:00Re: Ramesh Ponnuru, Dinesh D'Souza, Bobby JindalWe...Re: Ramesh Ponnuru, Dinesh D'Souza, Bobby Jindal<BR/><BR/>Well, but they're actual authors and a poltician. If we’re just talking about professional journalists then we can add a large number of black names and even a few Hispanics. I'm talking about people who blog to blog, not as an appendage of a real job. I admit it can be blurry, as in the case of Malkin, but none of these guys is distinctive as a blogger. I didn't know Jindal was even blogging--where? But still, they write posts on the internet throughout the day, that's blogging, so I take your point.Garlandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03453366944819816207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-85841577045693462862007-08-07T15:24:00.000-07:002007-08-07T15:24:00.000-07:00"If you look at SAT verbal scores by ethnic group,..."If you look at SAT verbal scores by ethnic group, the Asian average is not much below the non-hispanic white average, even though a sizeable number of Asian test-takers don't come from English speaking homes (many are even recent immigrants)."<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the information.<BR/><BR/>Still, East Asians are fairly well off, and have IQs comparable to Jews and yet they seem to be punching below their weight in politics and literature compared to whites and Jews (Not that I would want them to become too involved in US politics mind you...)<BR/><BR/>This makes me think that in some way their verbal skills are lacking.<BR/><BR/>Old RightAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-6799974893218496652007-08-07T15:04:00.000-07:002007-08-07T15:04:00.000-07:00woman scorned: Want to get rid of women on your si...<B>woman scorned:</B> <I>Want to get rid of women on your site? Try just being the boring, blockheads you are. We'll get bored and leave soon enough.</I><BR/><BR/>Dear Scorned,<BR/><BR/>Care to let us see the super-secret Bat Decoder Ring so that we'll know how to not bore you?<BR/><BR/>Hmmm... That doesn't sound quite right... ;)<BR/><BR/>Anyway, give us some tips on how to appeal to your sense of fascination.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-9696013517978454412007-08-07T14:34:00.000-07:002007-08-07T14:34:00.000-07:00Kos is pretty white, too. Judging by the cast of ...Kos is pretty white, too. Judging by the cast of his <A HREF="http://images.dailykos.com/images/admin/markos_head_1.jpg" REL="nofollow">face</A>, I imagine he probably does have a very small amount of admixture. But most people who never knew the guy was part Hispanic would never guess he was anything but white.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-73184178733161203822007-08-07T14:26:00.000-07:002007-08-07T14:26:00.000-07:00Kos himself is half El-Salvadoran. And not a veter...<I>Kos himself is half El-Salvadoran. And not a veteran of the Gulf War, which the Post incorrectly claims.</I><BR/><BR/>Yes, and which some of us have emailed the WaPo about without getting a correction. They rival The New Republic when it comes to fact-checking and fact-correcting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-79717292432494408502007-08-07T14:18:00.000-07:002007-08-07T14:18:00.000-07:00In general, white males still tend to most of the ...<I>In general, white males still tend to most of the interesting new things in the world.</I><BR/><BR/>It's this self-congratulation that makes iSteve occasionally difficult to read.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-22206614401352621882007-08-07T13:56:00.000-07:002007-08-07T13:56:00.000-07:00Bloggers start blogging because they hope it'll at...Bloggers start blogging because they hope it'll attract women? What a crock of shite that is! Simple truth is, some people like an audience, and it doesn't matter if that audience numbers 10 or 10 million.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-83975151149970423462007-08-07T13:33:00.000-07:002007-08-07T13:33:00.000-07:00Steve -- A couple of points.Kos is NOT a Gulf War ...Steve -- <BR/><BR/>A couple of points.<BR/><BR/>Kos is NOT a Gulf War Vet. He is a vet but did not serve in the Gulf War.<BR/><BR/>Second, I think you are missing the big point: it's the economics stupid (to quote Bill Clinton).<BR/><BR/>White male elitist liberals (who contrary to popular opinion don't fear being "losers" but want to control the populace through an aristocracy) have the time and money required for blogging.<BR/><BR/>For blogging you need a computer, which is not free. Time to devote to blogging, which is not free. Generally, your own site if traffic ramps up (which costs). Technical expertise in such things as HTML, CSS, PHP, MySQL to maintain your site or the money to hire someone to do it. Enough free time/money to develop a plan to get your site more attention. And so on.<BR/><BR/>Women don't care to do these things since if they are married they get the bulk of the housework and child-care. If they are single status from blogging doesn't do anything for them, in fact it detracts from their time in the gym and other activities to keep them thin and beautiful to attract the higher status guy. Whereas even a lame-o pseudo-celebrity via blogging can attract a lot of women.<BR/><BR/>You've probably seen the VH1 show about that lame-o pick-up artist trying to show even lamer nerds how to pick up women. His whole secret is he pretends to be a grade z celebrity and it works.<BR/><BR/>Liberal white male bloggers blog because it gets them women (or they hope it does) for the most part. Some just like to express their "forbidden" thoughts that PC-Multiculturalism prevents from being expressed. Women don't care about their own status only beauty. And most minorities have neither the time/money nor the computer skills needed to follow it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com