tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post8813728365320663900..comments2024-03-28T16:22:14.888-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: Larry Summers and Yves Saint LaurentUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-40869669285983875712008-06-18T20:25:00.000-07:002008-06-18T20:25:00.000-07:00I'm an academic, and I don't think female academic...I'm an academic, and I don't think female academics are so dreadful. My sense in my super-limited experience [non-elite law schools) is that female professors fall into 3 categories:<BR/><BR/>1. minorities- hired for their race<BR/>2. lesbians- hired because every school should have some, as a matter of ideological principle<BR/>3. beautiful [and usually pretty nice inside] young women - hired because male faculty members like them for obvious reasons, and the women find them non-threatening.<BR/><BR/>The real losers from this status quo (other than men) are the Hillary Clintons of the world: unattractive, unlikable heterosexual women. Being a Hillary Clinton type is like being a white male: you can get jobs, but you'd damn well better be twice as smart as the competition!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-29101309344721184492008-06-12T06:37:00.000-07:002008-06-12T06:37:00.000-07:00"of course straight guys DETEST fashion and everyt..."of course straight guys DETEST fashion and everything about it."<BR/><BR/> Straights of northern European extraction tend to detest it. Italians and other Meds are different. When I was Italy obviously hetero men (and little boys) were proudly turned out in subtly matched outfits (green socks with green shirts for example.) And they looked fantastic. The north-south dichotomy in style is pretty well known in Europe and even women (straight) subscribe to it. When I took a class in Switzerland there were people there from all over. A number of them talked about the self-consciousness of the Med-area people with respect to jewelry and other affectations of status and style. Meds were obsessed while northerners did not take such things so seriously and often did not bother. Perhaps it just has something to do with climate as well as genes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-87093461226980581972008-06-11T20:54:00.000-07:002008-06-11T20:54:00.000-07:00I've got a relevant, recent example told to me by ...I've got a relevant, recent example told to me by a department chair--a minority male. One very reliable faculty in his department--a white male--was denied tenure even though the chair made a heroic effort to save his job. <BR/><BR/>At the same time, a untenured female faculty was a nightmare (not atypical) and the chair fought hard to get her fired. But the same administrators, especially one lesbian, who denied the guy tenure, intervened aggressively and saved the woman's job. <BR/><BR/>In both cases, the female administrators went against the chair's judgment--the man who really knows what's best for the department. <BR/><BR/>While competence matters too, race/gender/orientation politics really do drive academic decisions.Ron Guhnamehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06421460508647618774noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1185562665881836142008-06-11T20:42:00.000-07:002008-06-11T20:42:00.000-07:00Good point Rob, about fashion not being that cool ...Good point Rob, about fashion not being that cool for straight women designers, i.e. the competition against models and no straight guys to meet. Plus of course straight guys DETEST fashion and everything about it.<BR/><BR/>But here's what I don't get. Barriers to entry to being a fashion designer are pretty low. Sewing machine, some fabric, set up and be cooler than everyone else with better designs and and a hipper image.<BR/><BR/>Why is that the marketplace, i.e. the female customers, whenever given a choice, finds the gay male's product superior? After all, gay males can discriminate all they want but they can't prevent some girl from setting up her own small shop and getting "the right" people to wear her stuff, if they are either up and coming starlets, various scenesters/hipsters, whatever.<BR/><BR/>Somehow in the marketplace competition, women designers always lose.<BR/><BR/>Meanwhile for guys, "fashion" generally means a suit from either an old-line suit maker (Hickey-Freeman, Brooks Brothers) or Armani. Anything gay they'll stay away from, for obvious reasons.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-64476459840278533552008-06-11T18:56:00.000-07:002008-06-11T18:56:00.000-07:00I think I read a NYT Styles article not long about...I think I read a NYT Styles article not long about female designers complaining that gay men were better designers. Oops! I mean men in fashion discriminate against them.<BR/><BR/>I was surpised to see it, as an oppressed group homosexuals are officially incapable of discriminating.<BR/><BR/>Female designers must also find it difficult to be in a profession where they meet relatively few straight men, and have to compete with models.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-74509910883545618632008-06-11T18:45:00.000-07:002008-06-11T18:45:00.000-07:00Ooops. Here are the working links:FashionHairOoops. Here are the working links:<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://akinokure.blogspot.com/2006/01/politically-incorrect-fashion-ii-sex.html" REL="nofollow">Fashion</A><BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://akinokure.blogspot.com/2007/02/men-are-better-at-hairstyling-too.html" REL="nofollow">Hair</A>agnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-32402885141457186572008-06-11T18:36:00.000-07:002008-06-11T18:36:00.000-07:00There was a legendary Duchess who didn't much care...There was a legendary Duchess who didn't much care what people did, so long as they didn't frighten the horses. Perhaps she still reigns somewhere in Pommy-land.Grumpy Old Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06885003732996511989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-80181178420597775402008-06-11T17:43:00.000-07:002008-06-11T17:43:00.000-07:00Hi Steve,I've long been a fan of your work and rea...Hi Steve,<BR/>I've long been a fan of your work and really enjoy the analysis you bring to things. Keep it up!<BR/><BR/>As for the issue at hand, of course the Summers thing was in large part about money, and it could be argued, why not?-no one seemed to have that huge a problem when it was all WASP males doing it. Now whether one agrees w/that view or not, its a real one out there, and let's face it, when one is in a highly competitve environment like the USA, one uses whatever advantages one has at their disposal. Its a lot lik a streetfight, and I hear ya on the Citizenism piece, but its like that sometimes. <BR/><BR/>Oh, and for the record, I'm w/Pinker in defence of Summers. <BR/><BR/>As for YSL, etc., my view is that it only highlights yet another area of inconsistency in thinking among the Sisterhood-of course, fashion has always been dominated by the gay male, and by all accounts, this won't be changing anytime soon. It also just goes to show just how uninterested Lesbian women are when it comes to looking good. <BR/><BR/>MMBMu'Min M. Beyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13764965842337428939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-64668632212011769852008-06-11T17:39:00.000-07:002008-06-11T17:39:00.000-07:00All the drama in Project Runway is "how do we find...All the drama in Project Runway is "how do we find somebody this year who isn't a gay man?" The gay man has to be about clearly superior in order to win.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-2472658043890819312008-06-11T17:35:00.000-07:002008-06-11T17:35:00.000-07:00Some relevant data on the sex disparity in fashion...Some relevant data on the sex disparity in fashion design and hair styling:<BR/><BR/><A HREF="Fashion" REL="nofollow">http://akinokure.blogspot.com/2006/01/politically-incorrect-fashion-ii-sex.html</A><BR/><BR/><A HREF="Hair" REL="nofollow">http://akinokure.blogspot.com/2007/02/men-are-better-at-hairstyling-too.html</A><BR/><BR/>(I've tried to use my quant skills to prop up a macho image and guard against rumors that I'm gay.)<BR/><BR/>The reason a tiny handful of gay men dominate is likely better visual-spatial skills in males, plus aggressiveness and ambition.<BR/><BR/>On Project Runway, you see a fair number of women who have the visual-spatial skills, but who have a nuclear meltdown in the face of adversity (like the adorable Nora from season 1). I don't remember much of that hairstyle show Blow Out, but I do recall the women being more emotional.agnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-61700010731533013592008-06-11T16:28:00.000-07:002008-06-11T16:28:00.000-07:00Just a note that most of the (British) lesbian aca...<I>Just a note that most of the (British) lesbian academics I know seem rather mild mannered and pleasant people. Maybe it's a cultural thing - American female academics seem more aggressive in general.</I><BR/><BR/>American prudishness and moralism. A lot of people find American women , straight or gay, bossy and annoying. Once the British lesbian academics get what they want, no more reason to give anyone else a hard time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-32998755943802005302008-06-11T15:40:00.000-07:002008-06-11T15:40:00.000-07:00Just a note that most of the (British) lesbian ac...Just a note that most of the (British) lesbian academics I know seem rather mild mannered and pleasant people. Maybe it's a cultural thing - American female academics seem more aggressive in general.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-51428581183923594412008-06-11T15:12:00.000-07:002008-06-11T15:12:00.000-07:00Steve, I think you assume too much with Harvard be...Steve, I think you assume too much with Harvard being immune to brand degradation.<BR/><BR/>As soon as people think that it's not worth the money to send their kids to Harvard, yes the brand can be terribly degraded. Why not?<BR/><BR/>Which speaks to the alumni network, the whole reason people spend ungodly amounts of money to send their kids to Harvard. Degrade the alumni network, by more feminist demands and other interest groups, over-PC'ing which atomizes students and leaves them apathetic or resentful (particularly the men) towards the institution and the brand can go downhill fast.<BR/><BR/>This is particularly true since Harvard has no major sports team to build alumni identity and solidarity and unity. It depends totally on the snob appeal of an "elite" alumni network. Should that fail, coupled with perceptions of Harvard grads by the public as clueless out of touch PC-driven dumb-aristos, the brand can really go down fast.<BR/><BR/>As for fashion designers, the real question is why women prefer gay men over female designers? Why not simply patronize say Vera Wang or Anna Sui over gay men? Why do gay men in the marketplace have an advantage over female designers by the female customers?<BR/><BR/>I think the marketplace answer is women prefer the gay men as designers. They are assumed to be better because they are gay men. Probably because gay men are perceived by female customers to be more snobby and elite.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-73792104874991417482008-06-11T14:52:00.000-07:002008-06-11T14:52:00.000-07:00It is peculiar that a Dr De Cock is associated wit...It is peculiar that a Dr De Cock is associated with AIDS and a Faust is involved in a Harvard pact.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-50374527557066004562008-06-11T14:49:00.000-07:002008-06-11T14:49:00.000-07:00Good article, Steve. I'm a designer and I've writ...Good article, Steve. I'm a designer and I've written about this subject in your comments before. It's rare that you see this, but I think one would get the best of both worlds with a husband and wife team. Probably the absolute most beautiful clothes made for children today are made by such a pair: the Italian label, I Pinco Pallino.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com