tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post915157882301835698..comments2024-03-28T16:22:14.888-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: The Tyranny of GuiltUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger93125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-19829081885057574672010-08-11T20:07:47.869-07:002010-08-11T20:07:47.869-07:00"How quickly they forget. Wasn't it just ..."How quickly they forget. Wasn't it just a couple days ago I called you a master of discourse?"<br /><br />I'm sorry Svigor, I took that as sarcasm.Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-78901492667160537342010-08-11T08:39:17.854-07:002010-08-11T08:39:17.854-07:00You see that, Svigor; you give me one innocuous li...<i>You see that, Svigor; you give me one innocuous little neutral compliment after three years, and all of a sudden you are a veritable "N-" lover.</i><br /><br />How quickly they forget. Wasn't it just a couple days ago I called you a master of discourse? Ingrate.<br /><br />I've just been there myself. I said the Commies were far worse than the Nazis (I'm still kinda in awe at how many paleo-conservatives can't accept this) and got called a Hitler-defender.Svigorhttp://majorityrights.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-74688298193283438582010-08-11T02:21:15.083-07:002010-08-11T02:21:15.083-07:00"As Auster points out, their have to be some ..."As Auster points out, their have to be some ethnically sound true believers for it to have gained any kind of social value."<br /><br />oops, that was supposed to be ethically sound.Mike Courtmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15226171376902020196noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-18068972885977512372010-08-09T18:28:48.361-07:002010-08-09T18:28:48.361-07:00"Dear me, the falling-all-over-yourselves som..."Dear me, the falling-all-over-yourselves some of you are doing to suck up to T-Boy."<br /><br />You see that, Svigor; you give me one innocuous little neutral compliment after three years, and all of a sudden you are a veritable "N-" lover. In David's eyes, you just turned into the guy at the Klan cookout who says "That Halle Berry, she's kinda cute."<br /><br />And you guys are talking about thought crimes?Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-36569743111095419652010-08-09T13:55:45.684-07:002010-08-09T13:55:45.684-07:00Dear me, the falling-all-over-yourselves some of y...Dear me, the falling-all-over-yourselves some of you are doing to suck up to T-Boy. He's no deep thinker; he just wants to talk that trash. Put those volumes of Kant that you were planning on quoting at him back on the shelves and give us all a break.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-4068681436527621502010-08-09T13:19:55.034-07:002010-08-09T13:19:55.034-07:00>Most of the ideologies concerning race, be the...>Most of the ideologies concerning race, be they Nazism, PC-ism, or a more hidden version of racism such as Zionism, are ideologies which have nothing in common with Christianity.<<br /><br /><a href="http://www.kevinmacdonald.net/Gura-Transcendentalism.pdf" rel="nofollow">American Transcendentalism</a> by Kevin MacDonald (pdf)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-84646067506351533332010-08-09T10:39:35.509-07:002010-08-09T10:39:35.509-07:00As to whether Thornton was stealing beer, see this...As to whether Thornton was stealing beer, see this:<br /><br />http://www.journalinquirer.com/articles/2010/08/09/towns/east_windsor/doc4c601eda2f960851567714.txt<br /><br />Slam dunk he was.<br /><br />The press will not play this up much, though.<br /><br />It's up to the Hollander family to clear their name. <br /><br />They are presumptively guilty of racism.<br /><br />I wonder if they are legally liable for the deaths of the 8 employees? <br /><br />I mean, if there was "workplace bullying" shouldn't they have known about it?concerned netizennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-74490445079101547212010-08-09T09:53:41.301-07:002010-08-09T09:53:41.301-07:00"He was also upset by comments made by passer..."He was also upset by comments made by passers-by about the interracial couple, she said."<br /><br />Every race plays gatekeeper of it's desirable females, and if you can't deal with the nasty looks and some mean comments, you're obviously not up to the task of miscegenation. Whites are among the least likely to to give a salt'n pepper a hard time. <br /><br />Omar had a bit of a persecution complex, and it's apparent the reporter is trying to show extenuating circumstances for his murderous outburst. The work environment was racist, and they would have still been alive if they had just treated their dusky co-worker with respect.Marc Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15526121114466617234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-33363647544194182522010-08-09T08:27:27.693-07:002010-08-09T08:27:27.693-07:00Kopseer, much of what you see as owed to Christian...Kopseer, much of what you see as owed to Christianity, I could easily see as owed to wealth. Over time, as a society becomes used to great wealth, it's easy to see how they become pussified. At that point a feather can push them over.<br /><br /><i>Racism is NOT to be sympathized with, that's a clear PC mandate.</i><br /><br />AFAICT this rule is always expressed by wedding racism to pathology or low status markers. I'd like to see someone provide counter-examples.Svigorhttp://majorityrights.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-81994871943370687082010-08-09T08:22:39.797-07:002010-08-09T08:22:39.797-07:00Mark Fuhrman was convicted of LYING UNDER OATH, Pe...Mark Fuhrman was convicted of LYING UNDER OATH, Period. There is no law on the books called "lying under oath while using the "n" word."<br /><br />Right.<br />Now ask the next question:<br /><br />WHY did Fuhrman even feel it was necessary to lie that the sounds n, short i, g and -r had ever left his mouth at some point in the past?<br /><br />Because Fuhrman KNEW the zeitgeist in America is such that a racist cop is seen as more of a bad guy than a black football player who cuts off his white wife's head. <br /><br />PARTICULARLY in view of the racial makeup of that jury.<br /><br />OJ walked not because of innocence of the crime accused, but because of shyster lawyering, which ought to be paid not in millions but jailtime.Curvaceous Carbon-based Life Formnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-53474334553655255552010-08-09T08:16:51.232-07:002010-08-09T08:16:51.232-07:00That’s why you don't have so many Jews and PC-...<i>That’s why you don't have so many Jews and PC-conmen hammering down Chinese, Japanese, black or Arab societies.</i><br /><br />Jews can't pass for Chinese, Japanese, or black. They can pass as Arab, but Jews and Arabs see each other coming a mile away (same basic behavioral genetics, lots of similar cultural traits). Basically, Jews have an "in" with whites they don't have with non-caucasoid groups, and this is probably a better explanation than simply comparing mental or cultural traits between whites and people without this "in."Svigorhttp://majorityrights.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-52193784985530957472010-08-09T07:00:51.785-07:002010-08-09T07:00:51.785-07:00@Harry Baldwin
Is there any other race that does...@Harry Baldwin<br /><br /><i> Is there any other race that does this?<br /></i><br />Histocially it has happened. The Tlaxcala joined forces with the Spanish against the "Aztec"(Mexicas.) And of course you know African tribes sold other African tribes as slaves.<br /><br /><br />BTW Whiskey has NO clue what goes on insdie the head of the average white woman.Lisenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-23010905921889661802010-08-09T06:00:39.200-07:002010-08-09T06:00:39.200-07:00Truth:
Sentences tell us something, not everythin...Truth:<br /><br />Sentences tell us something, not everything about the public's judgments of morality. Luckily, public polling is not the process by which guidelines are written. The voting process leaves quite a few of the public at their homes, watching the NBA and soap operas and so their moral judgments don't come near being translated into law. But moreover, legislators don't set guidelines simply on the basis of what their voters think is wrong. They consider the danger that the prohibited action poses or its other effects on society and the punishment necessary to stop it, as well as constitutional protections that would keep the laws from taking effect. Therefore, certain activities which are not that morally reprehensible - possessing pot - carries a punishment while marching down the street in Nazi uniform does not. Would you really argue that the public thinks that the former is more morally reprehensible than the latter sport?<br /><br />About acceptability, if this blog is what you can point to, as opposed to movies, tv shows etc, I don't know why you bothered trying to make a point. Racism is NOT to be sympathized with, that's a clear PC mandate.Worstnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-80922745041690989202010-08-09T02:52:22.718-07:002010-08-09T02:52:22.718-07:00Gc,
You make some valid points. I think Christiani...Gc,<br />You make some valid points. I think Christianity has a lot to do with it. Certainly the likes of the Frankfurt School and modern PC-enforcers wouldn't stand a chance without the ingrained cultural influence of Christianity in the West. That’s why you don't have so many Jews and PC-conmen hammering down Chinese, Japanese, black or Arab societies. It's only in the West with its old tradition of Church and state where they are so active. Not even in Israel do they bother encouraging love of say Palestinians and cry about their lot.<br /><br />PC manipulates the conscience of western man, which has been sensitized by Christianity. But PC does not have a valid point in the biblical sense. The purpose of guilt is to lead man to salvation, not to drum him down and make him subservient to the $PLC, NAACP or AIPAC. And the sins the Bible describers are the personal variety and man’s relation to God, not whether he favors quotas or immigration or not. Being PC doesn’t get you 1 inch closer to heaven.<br /><br />Traditional Christianity also did not have these hang-ups with race, I'd say it was fairly realistic about race and mostly sought pragmatic local solutions. Most of the ideologies concerning race, be they Nazism, PC-ism, or a more hidden version of racism such as Zionism, are ideologies which have nothing in common with Christianity.kopseernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-9562371987521204552010-08-08T22:55:01.854-07:002010-08-08T22:55:01.854-07:00The white guilt you folks are lamenting about can ...The white guilt you folks are lamenting about can probably be traced to the damage done by the Frankfurt School. Here is a write-up by historian <a href="http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55833" rel="nofollow">William Lind </a>which presents a nice summary of what has occurred over the last 80 years.<br /><br />Excerpt:<br /><br /><i>To serve its purpose of "negating" Western culture, the Frankfurt School developed a powerful tool it called "Critical Theory." What was the theory? The theory was to criticize. By subjecting every traditional institution, starting with family, to endless, unremitting criticism (the Frankfurt School was careful never to define what it was for, only what it was against), it hoped to bring them down. Critical Theory is the basis for the "studies" departments that now inhabit American colleges and universities. Not surprisingly, those departments are the home turf of academic political correctness.<br /><br />The Frankfurt School sought to define traditional attitudes on every issue as "prejudice" in a series of academic studies that culminated in Adorno's immensely influential book, "The Authoritarian Personality," published in 1950. They invented a bogus "F-scale" that purported to tie traditional beliefs on sexual morals, relations between men and women and questions touching on the family to support for fascism. Today, the favorite term the politically correct use for anyone who disagrees with them is "fascist." </i>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-894991759031568422010-08-08T21:20:31.371-07:002010-08-08T21:20:31.371-07:00Steve, while status seeking may explain the majori...Steve, while status seeking may explain the majority of cases of white guilt today, it doesn't explain why it came to be seen as so virtuous in the first place.<br /><br />As Auster points out, their have to be some ethnically sound true believers for it to have gained any kind of social value.<br /><br />Countries with high levels of white self-loathing and SWPL identification like Sweden also have high levels of personal guilt, as reflected in high levels of honesty and low crime rates (at least among their native populations)<br /><br />As much as I hate to say it, there are plenty of white Obama worshipers in Ottowa, Wellington or Stockholm who would happily return a wallet left on the ground.Mike Courtmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15226171376902020196noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-79028112717769346332010-08-08T20:04:11.865-07:002010-08-08T20:04:11.865-07:00T has a point, wanting accuracy isn't tantamou...T has a point, wanting accuracy isn't tantamount to defending the guy. But that desire for accuracy is motivated by ethnocentrism.Svigorhttp://majorityrights.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-38695478355748253832010-08-08T19:59:49.958-07:002010-08-08T19:59:49.958-07:00And so, too many blacks steal and cause trouble on...And so, too many blacks steal and cause trouble on the job. As a result, what happens? Few people want to invest in the black community. What's the point of setting up factories or businesses in the black communities when not only black rioters and criminals but black employees steal and steal and steal? <br /><br />BUT, we can't discuss this problem of black theft because it would be 'racist'!!!!!!!!! Yet these same liberals and blacks--the very people who scream 'racism' and silence debate--demand that we need have a HONEST DISCUSSION of racial problems to figure out why we continue to have a major black underclass problems. It's like telling a doctor that he must treat a cancer patient without ever saying or admitting that the patient has cancer. <br /><br />What we need is honest racism to explain WHY blacks are INDEED more prone to stealing, cheating, and lying. And it's the same in Africa and Haiti and all the other black-run places. Blacks don't run businesses; they run them into the ground. Of course, not all blacks are like this, but enough of them are to make it very risky to invest in the black community. <br /><br />What kind of country are we living in that we cannot discuss real problems in a real way? We are constantly told that something has to be done for the black community and to help blacks. But nothing can be done until we get to the root of the problem. And only racism, genuine racism as in race + ism = belief in races and racial differences, will help us understand why we have a major racial problem with blacks. They are emotionally more aggressive, physically stronger, intellectually less intelligent(and thus more childlike and tantrum-prone), and socially-politically-and-culturally-spoiled by white liberals and Jews who both patronize and fear them. <br /><br />Though liberal media coverage of this story has been lousy, I'm glad it happened cuz it appears the liberals only dug themselves deeper into a hole. Like so many 'racism' hoaxes on colleges and workplaces by disgruntled blacks, the more we find out about this story, the more it appears Omar is just another pathological black liar--as well as a murderer. It's just like the Jayson Blair controversy at NY TIMES. Recall that Blair had been given all the favors, forgiven all his trespasses, and promoted ahead of others. But all he did was lie and cheat. And when he was finally caught, what did he do? He screamed 'racism'. And when that no longer worked, he played the 'victim' of mental illness. We see the same pattern over and over. Black guy does wrong. He gets caught. He screams 'racism'. If it backfires, he goes for the insanity plea, and liberal media cover up for him. And the final grand narrative will be, 'the black went insane because white man made him so'. Around and around in circles we go. <br /><br />By the way, if any living entity should be held accountable, shouldn't it be the liberal Jewish beer company for hiring a psycho who endangered the lives of other workers? Suppose a conservative German-American owned beer factory hired a neo-nazi nut who saw conspiracies everywhere and shot dead Jewish workers upon being accused of stealing beer? Wouldn't that company have been sued up its ass for having hired a dangerous psycho who killed innocents?Throne of Bloodnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-54111160876935774472010-08-08T19:59:08.505-07:002010-08-08T19:59:08.505-07:00The main issue of this tragedy shouldn't be &#...The main issue of this tragedy shouldn't be 'were white folks racist?' but what is to be done about black criminality--not just among black criminals but among black workers who steal more than any other kind of worker--, black aggressiveness, black use of threats/intimidation/fear/thuggery to silence criticism of their rotten work ethic and transgressions, etc. We know many teachers are afraid of disciplining black students who are big, strong, and routinely beat up teachers--even male teachers. Some of these rotten black kids later become workers and act the same way. They are half-workers/half-criminals. Stealing from their jobs is often their main thing. Also, many black males make lousy workers because they grew up thinking of themselves as millionaire rappers, athletes, and badass dudes. They wanna be like Muhammad Ali, Kanye West, or whatever, but they have no skills for anything but menial jobs. So, they get pissed and think they should steal to get something extra(like the angry dude in CAR WASH). On top of that, the NAACP and white/Jewish liberals have been telling blacks that they are always OWED stuff. <br /><br />Because blacks are different from other races--more troublesome, bothersome, aggressive, stronger, dangerous, etc--, this was indeed a racist issue. White workers were good decent racists--people who were honest about race and racial differences--, and they understood that merely calling Omar on his theft would throw him into angry fits. So, they decided to gather SOLID EVIDENCE to prove to Omar that they were not targeting him simply because his skin is black but because he acts like so many black thugs and idiots--that he steals and deals on the side. Omar just couldn't handle this racist truth. <br /><br />Ask yourself, why are black communities so down-and-out, so defunct? It's because there are too many people like Omar who steal on the job. We tend to think it's street crime that is destroying black communities but that's only half the answer. The other answer is black workers steal on the job more than any other race does--yes, even more than Italian Americans in Goodfellas. Blacks act this way for four reasons. (1) They are naturally more aggressive and transgressive (2) They are stronger and know that non-black fellow workers or bosses will be afraid to complain or fire them. Also, non-blacks are afraid of getting beat up or being accused of 'racism' if they were to raise alarms about black theft on the job. (3) fellow black workers look the other way and also steal themselves (4) White/Jewish liberals and black leaders have been telling blacks that blacks are OWED reparations for slavery, and this serves as justification for black stealing.Throne of Bloodnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-8304331968379266852010-08-08T19:54:57.830-07:002010-08-08T19:54:57.830-07:00>Without a poll, the easiest way to compare [th...>Without a poll, the easiest way to compare [the public's attitude toward "racism" vs. its attitude toward murder] is to consider from the public's point of view the question: is a black man morally justified if he murders people who treated him in a racist way? Isn't that what this whole story is about? Was this guy justified in killing these white folks? I think that if there had been serious smoking gun evidence of systematic discrimination against Thornton, a good percentage of the public would say that he was justified in killing them. <b>If they believe that he was justified in killing the racists, it could only be so because [they believe] being racist is worse than being a murderer.</b><<br /><br />The sunrise of logic appears at last.<br /><br />Thank you.<br /><br />It's a shame, though, that some people of majority age and imputed education need such an elementary conclusion spelled out for them. And an even worse shame that many of them won't understand it even then.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-36966229836723100502010-08-08T19:42:13.594-07:002010-08-08T19:42:13.594-07:00Two black guys agree: it's all theater.<a href="http://bloggingheads.tv/diavlogs/29896" rel="nofollow">Two black guys</a> agree: it's all theater.TGGPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11017651009634767649noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-52449785657218277342010-08-08T17:39:43.079-07:002010-08-08T17:39:43.079-07:00"Defending a racist mass-murderer rouses him ..."Defending a racist mass-murderer rouses him to type away."<br /><br />I've made probably 20+ posts on this subject, go ahead and cut-and-paste just one instance of where I've "defended" anything Thornton has done.Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-52965091182817970432010-08-08T17:33:03.912-07:002010-08-08T17:33:03.912-07:00"Nah. Keep lashing your back with a whip, you..."Nah. Keep lashing your back with a whip, your eyes fixed firmly on your naval."<br /><br />Oooooooh! he told you, BuddyBoy!Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-35635861982958595632010-08-08T17:31:49.107-07:002010-08-08T17:31:49.107-07:00"The sentence for the white victims was death..."The sentence for the white victims was death."<br /><br />Exactly right Davey-Boy, and just as it was with the unibomber, with your idol McVeigh and the rest.<br /><br />However, I think if their loved ones had a retro-active choice between Thornton being a "murderer" and a "racist", you know, dirty looks, a "honky" under the breath every now and then, to them they might choose racist. (Unless one of those guys was your dad, then I'm stumped).Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-31978738992440420762010-08-08T17:15:49.579-07:002010-08-08T17:15:49.579-07:00"Mark Fuhrman was convicted of lying under oa..."Mark Fuhrman was convicted of lying under oath about using the "n" word while OJ walked in the savage murders of two people."<br /><br />You see Kylie, were making progress, you actually got this one half right!<br /><br />Mark Fuhrman was convicted of LYING UNDER OATH, Period. There is no law on the books called "lying under oath while using the "n" word. <br /><br />Had Mark Fuhrman simply admitted to saying what he had said, he would not have been in violation OF THE LAW.<br /><br />On the other hand, there were many reasons that OJ was not convicted and I will give you the biggest one right here; ready:<br /><br />There is a very good reason that some lawyers make tens of millions of dollars in private practice, and others work as assistant DA's for $70,000. Need a hint? Help her out, Steve-O.Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.com