tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post1061729762853769248..comments2024-03-29T05:14:33.223-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: Could U.S. rebuild manufacturing by not exporting fracked gas?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger105125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-80050419663578038652013-08-21T10:32:55.631-07:002013-08-21T10:32:55.631-07:00>So perhaps instead of saying "protect Ame...>So perhaps instead of saying "protect American jobs" protectionist could specify what American jobs they want to sacrifice.<<br /><br />Offshoring has not been a net job creator in the United States.<br /><br />And, more broadly, the wealth of a nation is not equivalent to the stock market.Davidhttp://david-passingparade2.blogspot.mx/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-41966783069029590542013-08-20T12:52:46.093-07:002013-08-20T12:52:46.093-07:00Well, the biggest growth in Blue Collar jobs seems...Well, the biggest growth in Blue Collar jobs seems to be Truck driving not everyone likes to travel across the US but Trucking is growing faster than manufacturing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-30768465208682366492013-08-20T08:52:35.230-07:002013-08-20T08:52:35.230-07:00"You totally missed the point, totally."..."<i>You totally missed the point, totally.</i>"<br /><br />WHO has missed the point?<br />The best you can do is teach<br />"Handwaving for Fools".<br /><br />"<i>As to your other comments, enjoy your manufactured reality.</i>"<br /><br />Constructed from what?<br />Straight answers foreign to you?<br />Typical sophist.<br /><br />"<i>Debating you would be a waste of time</i>"<br /><br />The classic excuse.<br />Your problem is that you have<br />No answer to give.<br /><br />"<i>you assume too much</i>"<br /><br />That's a funny claim.<br />Sharper minds' consensus is<br />You know too little.<br /><br />"<i>Enjoy your poetry.</i>"<br /><br />Oh, indeed I do.<br />Now and then I do indulge.<br />Mock you very much.Engineer-Poethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06420685176098522332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-8040359898945737582013-08-19T20:18:36.717-07:002013-08-19T20:18:36.717-07:00re: "Petrified wood results when precipitated...re: "Petrified wood results when precipitated minerals replace cell walls and such. Petrified wood is NOT carbonaceous." Engineer-Poet <br /><br />You totally missed the point, totally.<br /><br />As to your other comments, enjoy your manufactured reality. Debating you would be a waste of time as you assume too much and lack the imagination to break free for your logic tight understanding of science.<br /><br />Enjoy your poetry.<br /><br />Dan KurtDan Kurthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08252444956956894276noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-12931113919233809042013-08-19T15:01:56.631-07:002013-08-19T15:01:56.631-07:00"Must have touched a nerve."
I've h..."<i>Must have touched a nerve.</i>"<br /><br />I've had enough stupid nonsense thrown at me to last several lifetimes. This goes double for politically-motivated nonsense aimed at getting people to disregard elementary science to support the goals of the likes of OPEC. What's most amazing to me is that there are seemingly intelligent people who take it seriously enough to repeat it, as if they believe it.<br /><br />"<i>Take it up with Mendeleev of the Periodic Table of the Elements fame and an army of Russians since Mendeleev proposed the abiotic theory</i>"<br /><br />Right, because a 19th-century chemist must have known everything, whereas a few obvious and required consequences of the abiotic hypothesis (such as volcanic vents belching combustible fuels) NOT BEING THERE are ignored. Know what science calls a hypothesis that says we should see things we can test for, and do not see? A failure.<br /><br />There are actually some abiotic fuels created through geological processes. The hydrogen sulfide that comes out of hydrothermal ocean vents is an example. Something you might notice is that it's not methane, it's not oil, and it's nothing close to abundant.<br /><br />"<i>as well as the late Thomas Gold who even explains the formation of coal by an abiotic process</i>"<br /><br />Right, because all the carbonaceous stuff containing recognizable leaves, branches and roots must be abiotic in origin. (That was sarcasm.)<br /><br />"<i>akin to how petrified wood and petrified fossils come about.</i>"<br /><br />Petrified wood results when precipitated minerals replace cell walls and such. Petrified wood is NOT carbonaceous.<br /><br />"<i>BTW, the formation of the planets and their moons is far from "settled" science.</i>"<br /><br />Then tell me why there's negligible free hydrogen or methane in the atmosphere of any planet inside of Jupiter.<br /><br />Please feel free to go to Titan to pick up all the "free" methane you can find. If you base US policy on nonsense ideas, you can take the country out of the frying pan into the fire. I ridicule these ideas because they ARE ridiculous, and I'm constantly amazed that people cannot see this even after having it explained to them.Engineer-Poethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06420685176098522332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1446434588400134782013-08-19T10:06:27.859-07:002013-08-19T10:06:27.859-07:00"There is no race to the bottom when it comes..."There is no race to the bottom when it comes to wages. If that was true then you should expect all American based jobs to be tending towards the minimum wage. Obviously that isn't happening." - Because people are opting to not work at all, which is why the participation rate is crashing. Once peoples options are work or starve, wages will crash hard.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-31519539979986535522013-08-19T09:34:59.797-07:002013-08-19T09:34:59.797-07:00Dave said:
"The point isn't that protecti...Dave said:<br />"The point isn't that protectionism is great, but that unilateral, unregulated free trade is naive and stupid. Within the United States, we have regulations that prevent a race to the bottom in wages and environmental standards. "<br /><br />There is no race to the bottom when it comes to wages. If that was true then you should expect all American based jobs to be tending towards the minimum wage. Obviously that isn't happening. People's wages don't rise because of protectionism. I don't think you understand what makes wages rise.* I agree with Sowell, Hoppe and Borjas and others who point out that supply and demand also holds true of immigration. So while being a libertarian I strongly support immigration restrictions.<br /><br />* How wages actually rise<br />http://www.tomwoods.com/blog/the-fast-food-protests/<br /><br />David<br />I'm well aware of what the law says. My point was more trying to get people to understand that the same reason we don't want protectionism at a local level is the reason we don't want it at national level. If protectionism creates wealth then 50 American states having protectionism would be great and we should move to make that new law. I doubt anybody really thinks that but it is the logical outcome if you believe protectionism=wealth.Samnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-73232424500622429292013-08-19T07:44:55.323-07:002013-08-19T07:44:55.323-07:00re: "Abiotic 'fossil' fuels--FOR PETE...re: "Abiotic 'fossil' fuels--FOR PETE'S SAKE, STUDY SOME SCIENCE!" Engineer Poet<br /><br />Must have touched a nerve. Take it up with Mendeleev of the Periodic Table of the Elements fame and an army of Russians since Mendeleev proposed the abiotic theory as well as the late Thomas Gold who even explains the formation of coal by an abiotic process: akin to how petrified wood and petrified fossils come about. BTW, the formation of the planets and their moons is far from "settled" science.<br /><br />Dan KurtDan Kurthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08252444956956894276noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-40930149980507565602013-08-18T20:25:35.851-07:002013-08-18T20:25:35.851-07:00The point is that more people become producers and...<i>The point is that more people become producers and earn high wages, with which they consume.</i><br /><br />But what if some of the USA's additional peepul, such as Mexicans, stay poor for generation after generation north of the border?<br /><br /><i>NB: The 6502 which powered the Apple ][ was made by MOSTEK, not Fairchild.</i><br /><br />That is true. I stand corrected.<br /><br /><i>The last two leaders of the GOP (bush and romney) both paraded their pro-immigration stances proudly. That's a bad thing.</i><br /><br />No, Romney made several statements that were immgration restrictionist, such as encouraging illegal immigrants to "self deport." Who knowsif Mittens would have actually restricted illegales hadhe wonthe election?<br /><br /><i>"If protectionism is so great why not apply it to each individual state?"</i><br /><br />It's unConstitutional for American states to have tariffs on interstate commerce. Violatesthe 10th Amendment. A bit from <a href="" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_commerce>Wikipedia: Interstate commerce</a><br /><br /><i>In Gibbons, the Court struck down New York's attempt to grant a steamboat monopoly to Robert Fulton, which he had then ultimately franchised to Ogden. Ogden claimed river traffic was not "commerce" under the Commerce Clause and further that Congress could not interfere with New York State's grant of an exclusive monopoly within its own borders. Ogden's assertion was untenable: he contended New York could control river traffic within New York all the way to the border with New Jersey, that New Jersey could control river traffic within New Jersey all the way to the border with New York, leaving Congress with the power to control the traffic as it crossed the state line....</i>David Davenporthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03315090179595817174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-27883643013571536152013-08-18T19:31:38.037-07:002013-08-18T19:31:38.037-07:00Also, the people who are convinced that Earth'...Also, the people who are convinced that Earth's natural gas is abiotic because there's so much of it on e.g. Titan...<br /><br />FOR PETE'S SAKE, STUDY SOME SCIENCE! On Titan, water is a mineral which is harder than steel! Titan circles a gas-giant planet which is substantially composed of molecular hydrogen gas, captured from the primordial solar nebula. This can only happen where it's very, very cold. There is NO comparison to small, hot, rocky bodies like Earth.<br /><br />If Earth's oil and natural gas were abiotic, they would pop up everywhere. Every volcanic vent would catch fire from the combustible gases. <i><b>This does not happen</b>.</i> Oil and gas are exclusively associated with organic-rich precursor rocks from ancient shallow seas. Coal has recognizable parts of trees in it. IIUC the end of the formation of coal coincides roughly with the evolution of termites, which does not appear to be a coincidence.Engineer-Poethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06420685176098522332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-12188501043639541332013-08-18T17:38:13.787-07:002013-08-18T17:38:13.787-07:00"If protectionism is so great why not apply i...<i>"If protectionism is so great why not apply it to each individual state?"</i><br /><br />The point isn't that protectionism is great, but that unilateral, unregulated free trade is naive and stupid. Within the United States, we have regulations that prevent a race to the bottom in wages and environmental standards. Dave Pinsenhttp://twitter.com/dpinsennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-28741513494917963132013-08-18T17:36:37.844-07:002013-08-18T17:36:37.844-07:00"I am not an economist but I find it hard to ..."I am not an economist but I find it hard to believe that their general effect is to raise the standard of living."<br /><br />It would be a simple trade-off, cheaper energy in the US compensating for cheaper labor elsewhere.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-57246924721296326802013-08-18T17:26:31.412-07:002013-08-18T17:26:31.412-07:00http://topconservativenews.com/2013/08/asian-issue...http://topconservativenews.com/2013/08/asian-issue-of-time-magazine-calls-for-majority-non-white-australia/<br /><br />Time magazine calls for majority non-white Australia. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-38341365912120710062013-08-18T16:01:06.572-07:002013-08-18T16:01:06.572-07:00It worked well in Japan.
Yes and no. Japan is si...<i> It worked well in Japan. </i><br /><br />Yes and no. Japan is sitting on a ticking time bomb that is going to be the mother of all crises to come. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-6799922303472891692013-08-18T14:02:05.708-07:002013-08-18T14:02:05.708-07:00jody said...
what's depressing is how when co... jody said...<br /> what's depressing is how when conservatives do stuff, like invent horizontal fracturing or lock all the violent criminals in prison for years or lower federal income tax rates for all income brackets, it helps everybody, but when liberals achieve their political goals, it mainly hurts their political opponents (conservatives) but doesn't really help anybody or the nation in general. <br /><br />==============================<br /><br /><br /><br />Who appointed most of the judges sitting on the supreme ct right now? Conservatives. And this supreme ct just upheld affirmative action. That's a bad thing.<br /><br />The last two leaders of the GOP (bush and romney) both paraded their pro-immigration stances proudly. That's a bad thing.<br /><br />The Dems at least instituted some sort of national healthcare. That's a good thing.<br /><br />The Dems raised the taxes on the rich. That's a good thing.<br /><br />By at least one metric obama has deported more illegal invaders than Bush. That's a good thing.<br /><br />PropagandistHackerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00032093796955347846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-25572952029390029952013-08-18T14:01:24.521-07:002013-08-18T14:01:24.521-07:00Is what Liveris proposes protectionism? The word u...Is what Liveris proposes protectionism? The word usually refers to a ban on imports but he wants to ban an export. This is not a new idea. At one time, Australia banned the export of iron because of a groundless fear that its reserves were near exhaustion, and when North Sea oil was discovered there was serious debate in the United Kingdom whether we should export it or reserve it for our own use.<br /><br />Liveris claims that the effect of this measure would be to make shale gas cheaper for Americans in general and specifically for American corporations such as his own. Is it a general principle that export bans lower the price of goods? I am not an economist but I find it hard to believe that their general effect is to raise the standard of living.Philip Nealnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-87034660821235202812013-08-18T13:00:56.788-07:002013-08-18T13:00:56.788-07:00Falkenstein is a finance guy. He wants an economy ...Falkenstein is a finance guy. He wants an economy that produces high stock prices and dividends for his portfolio. Not an economy with high wages. High wages eat into profits hence stock prices and dividends and his portfolio. <br /><br />Just think about how terrible an economy with high wages would be for guys like Falkenstein. Not only would their portfolios be smaller due to the inability of firms to raise profits by slashing wages, but with high wages, people might start acting more independently, using their higher wages to invest in human capital, in themselves, in their children and families, in their neighborhoods and local economies. They might not desperately dump their money into the financial market for guys like Falkenstein to skim off and to bid up stock prices and fatten his portfolio.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-70375704212524571382013-08-18T10:59:21.007-07:002013-08-18T10:59:21.007-07:00"the Dept of Defense, and, to a smaller exten..."<i>the Dept of Defense, and, to a smaller extent, NASA, subsidized infant integrated circuit firms, including Fairchild ( maker of the CPU for the Apple II)</i>"<br /><br />NB: The 6502 which powered the Apple ][ was made by MOSTEK, not Fairchild.<br />Engineer-Poethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06420685176098522332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-82237421431694443692013-08-18T10:19:04.826-07:002013-08-18T10:19:04.826-07:00David said:
"Creates (or doesn't create)...David said:<br /><br />"Creates (or doesn't create) wealth for whom?<br /><br />"Protectionism" helped to create the wealth of the United States."<br />If protectionism is so great why not apply it to each individual state? That way all states can become rich.<br /><br />Protectionism protects producers who can't compete with foreign producers. It hurt producers who rely on importing materials for their production. So in reality you might prefer to protect American steel producers but you will hurt all the producers who need steel. Those parties will be hurt. Not to mention all consumers are hurt because of a lower living standard.<br /><br />So perhaps instead of saying "protect American jobs" protectionist could specify what American jobs they want to sacrifice.<br /><br />On the flip side I think free traders are wrong to point to the protectionist policies as being the reason for Japan's "lost decades". In reality they haven't been as lost as the WSJ wants it to be. The cause of Japan's problem lies in the monetary bubble of the 80's which the government handled by protecting the banks who refused to let their banks restructure. This has strangled economic life. We would be wise not to protect our banks and big industries too at the expense of everybody else. Somehow I don't bringing the likes of Summers, Yellen, Geitner, etc will change much.<br />http://www.lewrockwell.com/2010/12/gary-north/the-zombie-banks-feast/<br />Samnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-69327308891383347542013-08-18T08:41:05.256-07:002013-08-18T08:41:05.256-07:00"You are aware of the methane of Titan the la..."You are aware of the methane of Titan the largest moon of Saturn, no?" - The relevant question is how long did those take to form? A source of energy that takes thousands if not millions of years to form is no good if we use it up in decades.<br /><br />"1) hard to make bombs from its cycle" - This is probably the number one reason why no one is wasting time with Thorium.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-53776890398139606462013-08-18T08:34:32.075-07:002013-08-18T08:34:32.075-07:00"If the manufacturing jobs boom were to mater..."If the manufacturing jobs boom were to materialize, the US would face a shortage of labor, and it would start importing labor." - Under the American system they would be unable to do this, and would have to invest in labor saving capital and technology instead.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-32571264297320518652013-08-18T08:27:08.249-07:002013-08-18T08:27:08.249-07:00"Technological innovation would come about to..."Technological innovation would come about to compensate for any labor shortage."<br /><br />And ultimately technological innovation is where real wealth and prosperity comes from.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-62864711732136725962013-08-18T07:49:53.742-07:002013-08-18T07:49:53.742-07:00"Many rational analysts looking at the proble...<i>"Many rational analysts looking at the problem (whether to conserve or to export?), will make the call that ultimately GDP is based on energy."</i><br /><br />That's what this guy thinks.<br /><br /><br /><br />http://ftalphaville.ft.com/files/2013/01/Perfect-Storm-LR.pdfAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-45245888651672775332013-08-18T07:40:12.578-07:002013-08-18T07:40:12.578-07:00http://www.salon.com/2013/08/05/home_depot_founder...http://www.salon.com/2013/08/05/home_depot_founder%E2%80%99s_quiet_10_million_right_wing_investment/<br /><br />"FDD’s second largest contributor is hedge fund billionaire Paul Singer, a major fundraiser for Romney’s presidential campaign and a significant campaign contributor in his own right. Singer, who gave $3.6 million to FDD, infused $1 million into Restore Our Future and over $1 million into the American Unity PAC, a Republican Party PAC that supports gay marriage."<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-28640885061290174152013-08-18T07:38:32.688-07:002013-08-18T07:38:32.688-07:00"Australia has the highest median wealth in t...<i>"Australia has the highest median wealth in the world according to this report."</i><br /><br />A report that shows median wealth in UK is much higher than median Swiss wealth - probably because property prices have inflated so much. No one could argue that the median Brit is actually better off then the median Swiss.<br /><br /> <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com