tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post116959986002091792..comments2024-03-28T16:22:14.888-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: Why America needs New York U. to become a football powerhouseUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1170303029664386032007-01-31T20:10:00.000-08:002007-01-31T20:10:00.000-08:00Doesn't really sound monolithic, that's less than ...Doesn't really sound monolithic, that's less than half, though it is disturbingly higher. It could be there's an elite-masses split among Jews just like with many other groups; I can't think of a single Jew I know who supported the war...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1169948601063223332007-01-27T17:43:00.000-08:002007-01-27T17:43:00.000-08:00(Although you made one error: 81 of 207 is 39 perc...<I>(Although you made one error: 81 of 207 is 39 percent, a number quite higher than 19 percent, albeit still well below 74.)</I><BR/><BR/>You are quite right. I messed that calculation up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1169944768963116112007-01-27T16:39:00.000-08:002007-01-27T16:39:00.000-08:00Anonymous: I stand (partially) corrected. Those fi...Anonymous: I stand (partially) corrected. Those figures are interesting. (Although you made one error: 81 of 207 is 39 percent, a number quite higher than 19 percent, albeit still well below 74.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1169929842177342982007-01-27T12:30:00.000-08:002007-01-27T12:30:00.000-08:00The idea of a Jewish hawk monolith is simply inacc...<I>The idea of a Jewish hawk monolith is simply inaccurate.</I><BR/>Not really. Using the page <A HREF="http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/US-Israel/housejews.html" REL="nofollow">Jews Who Have Served in the United States House of Representatives</A> taken from <A HREF="http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org" REL="nofollow">Jewish Virtual library</A> as well as well as the <A HREF="http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2002/roll455.xml" REL="nofollow">online congressional voting record for HJ RES 114</A> I came up with the following results:<BR/><BR/>91% of Jewish representatives were Democrat at that time.<BR/><BR/>74% of Jewish representatives voted for the war.<BR/><BR/>Only 19% of democrats (gentile and Jewish) voted for the war.<BR/><BR/>I may have made some mistakes when i was gathering the data, and I hope I got things mostly right, otherwise i'll be eating some crow.<BR/><BR/>That Democratic Jewish senators in the Senate voted similarly to Democratic gentile senators is interesting, but it doesn't change the picture diametrically.<BR/><BR/><I>but, yes, I believe any American citizen has an "unrestricted" right to attempt to exercise political power and influence. What are you proposing as an alternative?</I><BR/><BR/>The alternative would be to temper your excercise of political power with a sense of fair play. As Rabbi Hillel put it:<BR/><BR/><I>“Do not do to others what you would not have them do to you.”</I>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1169917807888636182007-01-27T09:10:00.000-08:002007-01-27T09:10:00.000-08:00Last anonymous: I don't think I believe this. H...Last anonymous: I don't think I believe this. <BR/> Here's a breakdown of how Jewish Senators voted on the Iraq war resolution:<BR/><BR/>Yea: Feinstein, Kohl, Lieberman, Schumer, Specter<BR/>Nay: Boxer, Feingold, Levin, Wellstone, Wyden<BR/><BR/> So Jewish Senators broke down evenly in favor and opposed, and Jews provided a much higher percentage of the 23 nays than the 77 yeas. I suspect an analysis of the House vote would provide similar results. I don't believe public opinion polls ever showed higher Jewish support for the war than among non-Jewish Americans. All of these except the late Wellstone are still in the Senate, and I predict all of them except Lieberman and maybe Specter will vote for the anti-surge resolution and would be opposed to any attack on Iran. The idea of a Jewish hawk monolith is simply inaccurate.<BR/> I don't know whom you're calling a "Jewish supremacist," as I am not Jewish, but, yes, I believe any American citizen has an "unrestricted" right to attempt to exercise political power and influence. What are you proposing as an alternative?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1169835013470048342007-01-26T10:10:00.000-08:002007-01-26T10:10:00.000-08:00Sorry, but this is one of Steve's weaker hypothese...Sorry, but this is one of Steve's weaker hypotheses.<BR/><BR/>People in New York are just as passionate about the pro teams as Southerners are about their college teams. There is no disparity whatsoever in sports passion between New York and the rest of the country. It's just that New Yorkers are into the NFL and NBA instead of the SEC and ACC.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1169834684627868742007-01-26T10:04:00.000-08:002007-01-26T10:04:00.000-08:00One of the true marks of a Jewish supremacist is t...One of the true marks of a Jewish supremacist is that he wants Jews to live and have unrestricted power everywhere.<BR/><BR/><I>Are there Jews behind the Democrats? Yes, but they're lefty Jews, and lefty Jews don't run around trying to invade countries, they bang the drum for abortion and secularism.</I><BR/><BR/>Ah yes, the standard bait & switch that is often used by both the left and the right to prove media bias.<BR/><BR/>People aren't "left" or "right" on all issues across the board. Yes, Jews tend to be pro-abortion secularist liberals on social issues. But most are right-wing on military issues in the Middle East. That Jewish money, which exercises veto power over Democratic candidates, has one major string attached: Favor an aggressive militaristic Israel, OR ELSE!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1169777822432973852007-01-25T18:17:00.000-08:002007-01-25T18:17:00.000-08:00Wow. I hope this post is part of an effort at beco...Wow. I hope this post is part of an effort at becoming a well-paid mainstream pundit by coming up with incredibly dumb, outlandish ideas. Or do you really believe that Jewish ethnocentrism built up over millenia would be quickly sublimated if NYU had a good football team?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1169682453894575402007-01-24T15:47:00.000-08:002007-01-24T15:47:00.000-08:00I'm sure there are anti-semites on this board, but...<I>I'm sure there are anti-semites on this board, but I think that everyone would benefit from a clear distinction between anti-semite and anit-zionist. The latter is perfectly rational to anyone who dislikes the idea of a nation-state based on religion and who disapproves of U.S. support of any such nation.<BR/><BR/>The Zionists would like us to compound the two, because anti-semitism, hating a people for their religion, really is disgusting.</I><BR/><BR/>The fact is that the Israeli law of return is mostly ethnic in nature. Converts to Judaism can have trouble having their conversions recognised by Israeli religious authorities, but atheist ethnic Jews are never denied admission. Secondly, why so you imply that the existance of a state religion is objectionable per se? I'm not a Christian or a Catholic myself but if the Irish wish to be Catholic I won't stand in their way. Paleocon objection to the existance is Israel (in its present form) is largely due to the perception of hypocricy on the part of its supporters. The ADL will tell you that any ethnic feeling on the part of wasps is disgusting, and simultaneously tell you we'eve all got to love Zionism, otherwise we'ere "anti-semites".<BR/><BR/>Furthermore you conflate objection to things Jewish with hatred. This is pure Orwellianism, because one requires psychic powers to know people's emotional states. One can perfectly well object to certain things without wishing anyone long-term misery. As John Lenon sang "it's easy if you try."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1169680663955197442007-01-24T15:17:00.000-08:002007-01-24T15:17:00.000-08:00I'm sure there are anti-semites on this board, but...I'm sure there are anti-semites on this board, but I think that everyone would benefit from a clear distinction between anti-semite and anit-zionist. The latter is perfectly rational to anyone who dislikes the idea of a nation-state based on religion and who disapproves of U.S. support of any such nation.<BR/><BR/>The Zionists would like us to compound the two, because anti-semitism, hating a people for their religion, really is disgusting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1169679980535536102007-01-24T15:06:00.000-08:002007-01-24T15:06:00.000-08:00The parallelism in that last post doesn't work. Sh...The parallelism in that last post doesn't work. Should be switched. Sorry.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1169677730667289022007-01-24T14:28:00.000-08:002007-01-24T14:28:00.000-08:00Jews (taken as an aggregate) have a circle the wag...Jews (taken as an aggregate) have a circle the wagon mentality. Jews can be divided on certain issues, but moneyed activist Jews are far more influential than the others, and all one has to do to be called an "anti-semite" by the majority of Jews is to point out the activities of the influential activist ones. Furthermore the Jews involved in the ADL, AIPAC, etc. are motivated by Jewish concerns, so their Jewishness is not a tangential matter at all. I'm not aware of any other compelling explanation for an attack on Iran outside of Zionist fears. I agree that nuclear weapons in general are a problem for world peace because all it takes is for one head of state or one general having a bad day, to trigger a nuclear exchange costing millions of lives, or perhaps even the complete end of life on earth. All the same, if Israel considers nuclear weapons in Iran to be unconcionable, then in the name of moral consistency, it should get rid of its own nuclear arsenal. I would be much more sympathetic to Israel and its supporters were Israel to take this first step towards regional peace.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1169677398565334672007-01-24T14:23:00.000-08:002007-01-24T14:23:00.000-08:00haha, you guys are funny. north korea puts iran in...haha, you guys are funny. north korea puts iran into perspective rather easily. it has actual, functioning nuclear fission devices that it has detonated. when does america invade?<BR/><BR/>let's put to rest the idea that the current iran "problem" is about anything other than jewish people, or maybe oil.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1169676716017458822007-01-24T14:11:00.000-08:002007-01-24T14:11:00.000-08:00Vanya: I have lived in New England my whole life. ...Vanya: I have lived in New England my whole life. It is true that the Patriots have as many or more fans than the Red Sox now that they have become a powerhouse, but "when they were awful" they definitely ranked not even second, but fourth on the local sports scene, among regular Joes as well as among elites. <BR/> College football is something few Northeasterners care about even today. Boston College is traditionally the only 1-A team in New England, joined within the last decade by UConn, and I believe there are none in New York and only Rutgers in New Jersey.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1169672332593134882007-01-24T12:58:00.000-08:002007-01-24T12:58:00.000-08:00game over, hilary wins: http://www.forward.com/art...game over, hilary wins: <BR/>http://www.forward.com/articles/hillary-the-favorite-in-race-for-jewish-donations/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1169666449765882372007-01-24T11:20:00.000-08:002007-01-24T11:20:00.000-08:00"If the "Zionists" really controlled the U.S. gove..."If the "Zionists" really controlled the U.S. government Iraq would not have been attacked. Iran would have been attacked "<BR/><BR/>Two different issues there. The Zionists don't control the government, they influence it. And Iran was always next on the list after Iraq. Remember the neocon "cakewalk" that Iraq was supposed to be? Iraq was supposed to be just a warmup and a base for the Iran attack. <BR/><BR/>Unfortunately for the Zionists, their judgement is clouded by a fantasy vision of the middle east submitting to be one big Gaza Strip. Seen Bagdahd lately? No power, no water, garbage in the streets. Look familiar? <BR/><BR/>Americans have seen the results too. 70% disapprove of our middle east adventure, and with the advent of the Internet, no amount of Media Control is going to brainwash them again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1169662225156320432007-01-24T10:10:00.000-08:002007-01-24T10:10:00.000-08:00"I don't remember the Saudis getting us into an en..."I don't remember the Saudis getting us into an endless unwinnable war in the middle east."<BR/><BR/>This is silly. If the "Zionists" really controlled the U.S. government Iraq would not have been attacked. Iran would have been attacked because they are much more of a threat through their support of Hezbollah and their nucular program.<BR/><BR/>Bush thought he could make the U.S. safe by transforming the mideast into liberal democracies. He thinks all people are the same at heart. Its why he has such faith in No Child Left Behind and doesn't think its a problem that half of the population of Mexico is relocating to the U.S.<BR/><BR/>The Israelis know the arab mindset better than anyone, and therfore, knew Bush's plan was going to end in failure. How does a weakened America help Israel now that Iran, the real threat, needs to be delt with?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1169658024832490922007-01-24T09:00:00.000-08:002007-01-24T09:00:00.000-08:00"Now if we only had someone to warn us about the S..."Now if we only had someone to warn us about the Saudi money influencing our politicians..."<BR/><BR/>I don't remember the Saudis getting us into an endless unwinnable war in the middle east.<BR/><BR/>The Zionists are going to have a much harder time with Iran. People are on to their game now, and whether it's spoken or unspoken, the same warmongering tactics will not work again. Bush's credibility is a national joke, same goes for the neocons, and the election showed that Americans want the pols to focus on the prosperity of this country, not the middle east.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1169655160408033332007-01-24T08:12:00.000-08:002007-01-24T08:12:00.000-08:00Turn NYU into a football powerhouse? Sorry. Can't ...Turn NYU into a football powerhouse? Sorry. Can't happen. It's in Greenwich Village for goodness sake! It would be like getting Florida State into the Ivy League. Yeah, I know the fact that Berkley is a postmodernist hippie haven hasn't stopped it from maintaining a half-decent football program, but to play footabll, it can't even call itself by its real name. It has sneak in as "Cal," as if it were the only campus in the University of California system. NYU has no alter ego to use. And New York is bored by a sport where, for most of the good teams, at least 75% of their games are against teams with no chance to beat them. Sorry, but we just don't care how badly Ohio State pulverizes Indiana and Northwestern. We don't have the patience to watch games like that.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, Jews reminding us of Jewish influence is rare, but Iglesias has an unusual amount of courage - for a leftist. <BR/><BR/>Bottom line: between the Israelis and the Saudis, we don't have to worry about Iran. If Israel were willing and able to take out Saddam's reactor, they are surely willing to do the wet work on Iran.Jim O'Sullivanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08435996929354320246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1169652698273595732007-01-24T07:31:00.000-08:002007-01-24T07:31:00.000-08:00A nuclear Iran would be no big deal. It would have...A nuclear Iran would be no big deal. It would have a few nukes compared to Israel's hundreds.<BR/><BR/>Even with nukes, the mullahs are glass at the flick of a Jewish finger.<BR/><BR/>Get over it. Many countries have nuclear weapons. Only one (US) has used them. Are you suggesting that Iran has no right to self-defense?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1169652238760175012007-01-24T07:23:00.000-08:002007-01-24T07:23:00.000-08:00Website got cut off.http://www.engdahl.oilgeopolit...Website got cut off.<BR/><BR/>http://www.engdahl.oilgeopolitics.net/Geopolitics<BR/><BR/>___Eurasia/Russian_Giant/russian_giant.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1169652129109199682007-01-24T07:22:00.000-08:002007-01-24T07:22:00.000-08:00War with Iran is inevitable.See:http://www.engdahl...War with Iran is inevitable.<BR/><BR/>See:<BR/>http://www.engdahl.oilgeopolitics.net/Geopolitics___Eurasia/Russian_Giant/russian_giant.html<BR/><BR/>The Great Game is on. Iraq was a bold move. Iran is now needed to keep the squeeze on.<BR/><BR/>President Hillary will keep it going (despite any comments she may make to the contrary).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1169651649814741222007-01-24T07:14:00.000-08:002007-01-24T07:14:00.000-08:00But the question here is, are Jewish groups (or an...But the question here is, are Jewish groups (or anyone else) RIGHT in believing that Iran is a threat to Israel and the U.S.? Jewish "influence" is not really the issue - its whether they are right in believing Iran is a threat. Mr. Sailer, your position seems to be that a nuclear Iran will be no big deal. Is this an accurate assesment of your views? If not, what should we do?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1169647098587783802007-01-24T05:58:00.000-08:002007-01-24T05:58:00.000-08:00You know, rather than having Wall Street money boy...You know, rather than having Wall Street money boys work out their tribal competitiveness vicariously by watching college athletes, maybe they should join adult sports leagues and compete <I>themselves</I>. Oh wait - the explosive growth of <A HREF="http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cartball" REL="nofollow">cartball</A> has basically killed off almost all adult participatory sports activities. Never mind.<BR/><BR/>Peter<BR/><A HREF="http://journals.aol.com/r32r38/Ironrailsironweights/" REL="nofollow">Iron Rails & Iron Weights</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1169642087405760112007-01-24T04:34:00.000-08:002007-01-24T04:34:00.000-08:00When the Democrats get 60% of their Presidential c...When the Democrats get 60% of their Presidential campaigning money from Jewish sources, you know which direction US foreign policy is going. The figure for Republicans is still below 50% I believe.<BR/>http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/mear01_.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com