tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post1611869156643012200..comments2024-03-27T18:24:19.683-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: Why is crime down among Today's Youth?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger110125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-54816612247556844002010-01-30T16:43:17.963-08:002010-01-30T16:43:17.963-08:00"Being a Jew seems to takes precedence over i..."Being a Jew seems to takes precedence over identification with any country, other than Israel."<br /><br />Not every Jew feels this way, especially in the United States. However, if a Jew does feel this way then obviously it would be inappropriate for him or her to hold high office or other position of trust.<br /><br />"However, if they truly feel they are guests, then they shouldn't be surprised that the hosts get pissed off at their aggressive attempts to take over said host's government, financial institutions and opinion influencing media concerns."<br /><br />The problem with this statement is that you are talking as if all Jews basically feel the same way. Many Jews in finance are just trying to make a buck.<br /><br />Anyway, in a free country, it's not really appropriate to stop people from gaining power (in the private sector) because of suspected disloyalty.sabrilnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-12199122058100492662010-01-30T14:30:19.924-08:002010-01-30T14:30:19.924-08:00The key phrase in the comments of the kid musing a...The key phrase in the comments of the kid musing about joining the Israeli as opposed to American military is America "hosting the Jews". That seems to be the way Jews view themselves in every country they wind up in, no matter how long they live there - as guests, tolerated to varying degrees by willing or unwilling hosts. Being a Jew seems to takes precedence over identification with any country, other than Israel. <br /><br />However, if they truly feel they are guests, then they shouldn't be surprised that the hosts get pissed off at their aggressive attempts to take over said host's government, financial institutions and opinion influencing media concerns.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-48592693247241027942010-01-28T14:54:09.319-08:002010-01-28T14:54:09.319-08:00"Sabril,
given that there is a current shorta..."Sabril,<br />given that there is a current shortage of men in the US army which is being stretched thin, is it OK for 5000 American jews to be serving in the IDF instead of the US army"<br /><br />Yes I think so. There are lots of American men of military age doing stuff besides serving in the military. <br /><br />"Would it have been okay for americans to fight for nazi germany before December 1941?"<br /><br />No, I don't think that's ok. Anyway, you never answered my question.<br /><br />Would it surprise you to learn that there were many Americans serving in the Chinese military during World War II?sabrilnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-56994934950670185822010-01-28T14:38:44.558-08:002010-01-28T14:38:44.558-08:00Rahm doesnt need an Israeli passport as such. He m...Rahm doesnt need an Israeli passport as such. He may never have been issued that specific piece of paper and card. But he can take up Israeli citizenship any time he wants, its less than a formality.<br /><br />So, for all intents and purposes, he should be regarded as a dual national.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-16119784710058430742010-01-28T12:39:44.538-08:002010-01-28T12:39:44.538-08:00"They count this stuff in such silly ways thr..."They count this stuff in such silly ways through. It should be number of tickets sold, not dollars. WIth inflation, even a flop in twenty years will beat "Avatar".<br /><br />At the very least they should use inflation adjusted dollars."<br /><br />I think you may be overestimating future inflation, but you aren't wrong about inflation adjusted gross being most important. If my memory serves me well (and I'm sure it does) the highest grossing film ever (after factoring in inflation) was Gone with the Wind.<br /><br />http://boxofficemojo.com/alltime/adjusted.htm<br /><br />I believe this is based solely upon the domestic gross in the United States. Gone with the Winds worldwide inflation adjusted gross is something like 3 billion dollars.<br /><br />At the time of this list being compiled Avatar was at 26 with a gross of $561,317,325, but it's probably moved up the chart by now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-10265658098869283152010-01-28T09:30:22.037-08:002010-01-28T09:30:22.037-08:00"sabril said...
""So it would be o..."sabril said...<br /><br />""So it would be okay if they had served in the Red Army during WWII?""<br /><br />Yes, it's ok with me."<br /><br />So, it's okay for U.S. citizens to sign up to fight for Joe Stalin. Ok. Now I know better how to evaluate your opinions. Would it have been okay for americans to fight for nazi germany before December 1941?Mr. Anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-54046160663300279632010-01-28T08:15:59.307-08:002010-01-28T08:15:59.307-08:00Sabril,
given that there is a current shortage of ...Sabril,<br />given that there is a current shortage of men in the US army which is being stretched thin, is it OK for 5000 American jews to be serving in the IDF instead of the US armyrec1manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08283145675242793064noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-19192408636449496872010-01-27T18:48:53.825-08:002010-01-27T18:48:53.825-08:00"Would a synagogue be a sufficiently reputabl..."Would a synagogue be a sufficiently reputable source for you?"<br /><br />Not alone, but it's a start. I had in mind something more like CNN. <br /><br />"I do NOT see any mention on wikipedia where Rahm disavowed being a dual citizen. "<br /><br />Yes, I noticed the same thing. I concede the possibility that Rahm really is a dual citizen. <br /><br />And I do think that IF Rahm is a dual citizen, he has no business occupying a position of trust in the U.S. Government.<br /><br />"So it would be okay if they had served in the Red Army during WWII?"<br /><br />Yes, it's ok with me. Would it surprise you to learn that there were many Americans serving in the Chinese military during World War II?sabrilnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-9129086296877915442010-01-27T18:12:35.958-08:002010-01-27T18:12:35.958-08:00Binyamin Netanyahu has dual citizenship (Q: Which ...Binyamin Netanyahu has dual citizenship (Q: Which one?). Not that this topic is ever reported in US 'media'.<br /><br />'Dual citizenship can be granted automatically, sometimes.'<br />A couple of friends of mine were eligible for Italian citizenship through paternal line although their respective families immmigrated to Brazil 100-150 years ago. Dual citizens now, Italy(EU)/Brazil.<br />Jure Sanguinis.sj071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-54503849391503930242010-01-27T17:23:44.273-08:002010-01-27T17:23:44.273-08:00"sabril said...
I don't have a probl..."sabril said...<br /><br /> I don't have a problem with ordinary Americans serving as enlisted men in foreign armies of countries allied with the United States."<br /><br />So it would be okay if they had served in the Red Army during WWII?<br /><br />By the way, another American mover and shaker who served in the IDF (both army and airforce) was Mark Helprin, novelist, "conservative" commentator, and former political advisor to Bob Dole.Mr. Anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-11590061974397280922010-01-27T16:58:39.412-08:002010-01-27T16:58:39.412-08:00"Anyway, I didn't see anything in Chertof..."Anyway, I didn't see anything in Chertoff's wiki article saying he's a dual citizen. Are there any reputable sources which say so?"<br /><br />Would a synagogue be a sufficiently reputable source for you?<br /><br />From the website of the synagogue in Buffalo, NY:<br /><br />http://jbuff.com/index.html<br />http://jbuff.com/c090805.htm<br /><br />Biography of Michael Chertoff<br /><br />quote:<br />"He has the additional merit of being an observant Jew who also is a dual citizen of the United States and Israel. All of these qualifications make him an excellent candidate for a seat on the U.S. Supreme Court. Since President Bush knows him well and appointed him to his present position, it is to be hoped that Michael Chertoff will be given the nomination. He will surely be confirmed by the Senate as he is confirmed by us."<br /><br /><br />I see on wikipedia and in this article by Center for Immigration Studies http://www.cis.org/DualCitizenship-Reform where Rahm was accused by a political opponent of being a dual citizen. I do NOT see any mention on wikipedia where Rahm disavowed being a dual citizen. Wikipedia notes carefully that Rahm was only a civilian volunteer in IDF, not a soldier, but makes no mention of whether Rahm confirmed or denied the charge of dual citizenship.<br /><br />Therefore, in my opinion, the possibility that Rahm is a dual citizen is still an good question.Curvaceous Carbon-based Life Formnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-19826437670880795332010-01-27T14:40:52.275-08:002010-01-27T14:40:52.275-08:00I am an immigration restrictionist and post on var...I am an immigration restrictionist and post on various blogs where this is an item of interest. A couple of years ago I was posting on a policy wonk blog located in Virginia. I took the stance that illegal aliens should be smoked out via enforcement such as E-Verify and basically sent home. <br /><br />I had several take me to task and I held my own. One guy said that the cost of enforcement outweighed the benefits, etc. The usual stew. <br /><br />Later this same person opined that what he planned to do was to live in the US and make his money here and then retire to "a better country". I had thought that this would prompt a few thoughts that this wasn't an option that most people had and that trashing a country and then leaving was unacceptable etc but I was wrong.<br /><br />What it prompted was several replies from regulars that they had already nailed down dual citizenship for themselves and their families and were ready "if it was needed". One guy who made light of my concerns about illegal alien amnesty noted that "when 51% of the population elect a demi-god" to solve their problems, he wanted a means to escape with the - and I'd guess as a result of - money he had made here in the US. Needless to say that "demi-god" could very well be the result of low-income/education "citizens" from the third world - people whom he supported being allow en mass into the US - voting their economic interests.<br /><br />I find this appalling. You deliberately set into motion devices that will destabilize the US while simultaneously planning your escape, knowing that most US citizens will not have that option. <br /><br />As a result of "family reunification" AKA chain migration, people with next to no ties and history in the US have more say about who is let in than most of us who can trace our ancestors and contributions back centuries. This is a recipe for disaster.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-895444192615180882010-01-27T13:48:12.626-08:002010-01-27T13:48:12.626-08:00"So what do the Jews on this board say to tha..."So what do the Jews on this board say to that? Agree? Disagree?"<br /><br />If a Jewish-American feels this way, then at a minimum, he has no business holding any kind of office of trust in the United States government. <br /><br />"These are the result of 30 seconds of Googling. They can be multiplied almost ad infinitum."<br /><br />Ok, I looked at your first example, which says that there is a lot of anti-semitism in France as evidenced by various attacks on Jews.<br /><br />Another one of your links links to articles which contain suggestions that Jimmy Carter's criticisms of Israel may be informed by anti-semitism.<br /><br />"Is that enough context?"<br /><br />Well, I'm not sure I see the contradiction. Surely there does exist anti-semitism in France. And certainly many of those who criticize Israel have views informed by anti-semitism.<br /><br />For example, it's hard to believe that David Duke really cares about Syrians all that much. (I don't know enough about Carter on this point.)<br /><br />I'm not seeing the contradiction you are trying to point out.<br /><br />"No. You're trying to misdirect attention again. Rahm Emmanuel's particular, actual, technical status is not that germane to my larger concerns "<br /><br />I'm not trying to misdirect at all. I was specifically talking about Rahm Emanuel. If you want to broaden the issue, that's fine.<br /><br />Anyway, I didn't see anything in Chertoff's wiki article saying he's a dual citizen. Are there any reputable sources which say so?<br /><br />"Give me one, just one, name of an Italian or U.K. dual citizen in a high U.S. gov't position."<br /><br />I have no idea if any such people exists or existed and I am not claiming that they do. Actually, I have no idea if any dual citizens with Israel hold or have held high office in America.<br /><br />Until a day or two ago, I was under the impression that Rahm Emanuel was a dual citizen, but now it seems that's just a rumor.sabrilnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-86094315184497372072010-01-27T09:39:36.063-08:002010-01-27T09:39:36.063-08:00"Also? As noted above, there is a threshold q..."Also? As noted above, there is a threshold question here: Is Rahm Emmanuel a dual citizen or not?"<br /><br />No. You're trying to misdirect attention again. Rahm Emmanuel's particular, actual, technical status is not that germane to my larger concerns because he is not the only possible Jewish/American dual-citizen in high U.S. gov't office:<br />There are many.<br /><br /><br />Known Israeli-American dual citizens who have held high U.S. gov't officialships within recent memory:<br />Michael Chertoff, Secretary of DHS<br />Richard Perle, foreign policy advisor<br />Paul Wolfowitz, Deputy Defense Secretary<br />There are many more. <br /><br />Give me one, just one, name of an Italian or U.K. dual citizen in a high U.S. gov't position. I need it, badly, because I don't want to come to the conclusion for which the evidence is mounting.<br /><br /> "don't have a problem with ordinary Americans serving as enlisted men in foreign armies of countries allied with the United States."<br /><br />I do. Because, to quote a famous phrase, "Nations have no permanent friends and no permanent enemies. Only permanent interests."<br />A guy who's made buddies in and impressed the commanders of a foreign army makes for an excellent potential recruit as a spy against U.S. when the inevitable conflict arises between <br />U.S. and a former ally.Curvaceous Carbon-based Life Formnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-30044454553430530602010-01-27T08:11:43.585-08:002010-01-27T08:11:43.585-08:00>I realized that my family has been Jewish a lo...>I realized that my family has been Jewish a lot longer than they have been American (especially my mom, she's Canadian). My true patriotism should lie in my home country, and looking back far enough, that's Israel. It's my home and it's the home of all the Jews.<<br /><br />Only an anti-semite would question the loyalty of any Americans who happen to be of the Jewish persuasion. Stanley Kramer or someone told me so in a 1950s movie.<br /><br />sabril said<br /><br />>gimme examples, examples, examples< (paraphrasing)<br /><br />Heh. The same old shtick from sabril!<br /><br />Okay, okay, it's a reasonable question.<br /><br />>"Jews are forever criticizing European countries for their alleged 'anti-semitism' even though they are living well there." Would you mind giving a few examples of this?<<br /><br /><a href="http://www.adl.org/Anti_semitism/as_france.asp" rel="nofollow">Here</a>. <a href="http://www.jcpa.org/phas/phas-urban-f04.htm" rel="nofollow">Here</a>. <a href="http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3278919,00.html" rel="nofollow">Here</a>. <a href="http://tinyurl.com/ya7t369" rel="nofollow">Here</a>. These are the result of 30 seconds of Googling. They can be multiplied almost <i>ad infinitum</i>.<br /><br />>"Yet any criticism of Israel w.r.t. how it treats is neighbors, which is gross by most of the world’s standards, is immediately rejected as anti-semitism so that the argument gets killed." Again, would you mind giving a few examples to put this into context?<<br /><br /><a href="http://www.bing.com/search?q=jimmy+carter+anti-semitism&form=OSDSRC" rel="nofollow">Jimmy Carter</a>. <a href="http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_context=8&x_nameinnews=189&x_article=1105" rel="nofollow">Walt and Mearsheimer</a>. Is that enough context?<br /><br />Anonymous said<br /><br />>Mr. Sailer writes a post about crime being down and the last twenty replies are about Jews and Israel? HUH?!<<br /><br />It all started when someone mentioned criminals and the harm they cause nationally - which led to Goldman Sachs - which is in bed with the Fedgov (or vice-versa) - a principle member of which is Rahm the Dual Citizen. Holy hell, stay on topic, you people! (joking)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-56252004282874034992010-01-27T07:49:40.911-08:002010-01-27T07:49:40.911-08:00My true patriotism should lie in my home country, ...<i>My true patriotism should lie in my home country, and looking back far enough, that's Israel. It's my home and it's the home of all the Jews.</i> <br /> <br /><br /><br /><br />So what do the Jews on this board say to that? Agree? Disagree?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-82255383586032793062010-01-27T05:21:16.369-08:002010-01-27T05:21:16.369-08:00Dual citizenship can be granted automatically, som...Dual citizenship can be granted automatically, sometimes. Some countries (Iran, Morocco, South Korea, among others) regard all children of native-born citizens to be citizens of their country. I once had a neighbor from Iran who would never take his son back to visit relatives, in the fear that he might end up drafted there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-21180397798992150712010-01-27T03:27:49.286-08:002010-01-27T03:27:49.286-08:00"So, the children of immigrants assimilate to..."So, the children of immigrants assimilate to underclass norms"<br /><br />Should be Hispanic immigrants.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-85872437536998582912010-01-27T03:20:54.083-08:002010-01-27T03:20:54.083-08:00Quick demolition of Unz by Jason Richwine of AEI:
...Quick demolition of Unz by Jason Richwine of AEI:<br />http://blog.american.com/?p=7428<br />(…)<br /><i>Hispanic immigrants are institutionalized (usually that means in prison) at only about half the rate of white natives, but Hispanic natives are in institutions at about three times the white rate. As I said, this is the “conventional” view of immigration and crime supported by most academics.</i><br /><br />(…)<br /><br /><i> increased crime in the second generation is consistent with an increase in several other underclass behaviors. As the chart above indicates, labor force dropout, illegitimacy, and welfare usage are all much higher among Hispanic natives than among Hispanic immigrants. (Those data come from reliable interviews of normal people outside of prison.) It makes sense that crime would increase if all of those other underclass problems are increasing as well.</i><br />(...)<br /><br />So, the children of immigrants assimilate to underclass norms. I can see no way to prevent this without a miraculous reconstruction of the shame-based WASP-dominant culture of the US that started falling apart beginning with the Sixties Cultural Revolution in 1965.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-28525300674082473912010-01-26T19:40:37.380-08:002010-01-26T19:40:37.380-08:00an American character who enlists in the British m...<i>an American character who enlists in the British military in order to fight in World War I. As I recall, he does it by sneaking into Canada and pretending to be Canadian.</i><br /><br />I believe that was a common path in WW2 as well. Many members of those aforementioned Eagle squadrons were posing as Canadians. A blind eye was turned to this by the US, Canada and Britain.<br /><br />One often hears about the Eagle pilots but I presume some others must have gone into the army and navy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-3311038725015300362010-01-26T19:34:35.796-08:002010-01-26T19:34:35.796-08:00A friend of mine, we are British, has dual British...A friend of mine, we are British, has dual British/US citizenship. American mother, British father.<br /><br />I remember when he was in his teens him saying that he would have decide when he was 18 whether to be British or American since he couldnt have both, and if he chose American - register for the draft. However by the time he turned 18 (in 1982)the US rules had changed, he's carried both passports ever since. He says Carter changed the rules, is that true?<br /><br />PS He did register for the draft btw if anyone is wondering about divided loyalties.<br /><br />PPS Britain has long allowed dual nationality.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-36042380560513607722010-01-26T17:23:33.408-08:002010-01-26T17:23:33.408-08:00http://www.pjvoice.com/v14/14207idf.html
Joining...http://www.pjvoice.com/v14/14207idf.html<br /><br /> Joining The IDF<br />What's an American teenager like me doing signing up to the Israel army?<br /><br />-- Yeshia Braverman<br /><br />I'm on the bus looking out the window, passing miles and miles of desert sand. I have been in Israel for a little over nine months and I recently decided to join the few and proud and go to the Israeli army. My decision to join the army was not particularly hard (I've always wanted an M-16), but the choice of the Israeli army over the American was one that had me -- a 19-year-old American from Los Angeles studying in Israel -- thinking and debating for months. <br /><br />But why the Israeli army? Aren't you American? " I have asked myself that question many times. I have always wanted to go to the American army; my entire life I have felt a sense of patriotism to America. It has hosted the Jews for so many years and has treated us with respect. I always thought that I should give a little back.<br /><br />So I asked myself the famous question, "Am I an American Jew, or a Jewish American? Which comes first?" <br /><br />I realized that my family has been Jewish a lot longer than they have been American (especially my mom, she's Canadian). My true patriotism should lie in my home country, and looking back far enough, that's Israel. It's my home and it's the home of all the Jews.rec1manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08283145675242793064noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-83554845428971837562010-01-26T14:47:37.932-08:002010-01-26T14:47:37.932-08:00"Steve, when are you going to comment on Ron ..."Steve, when are you going to comment on Ron Unz' cover-story about hispanic crime?<br />http://amconmag.com/article/2010/mar/01/00022/"<br /><br />Ron Unz falls prey to the misconception that "Hispanic" is somehow a single ethnic group with uniform characteristics. Hispanic is in fact a garbage can classification including fully assimilated 5th generation Americans of majority European ancestry and Mixtec Indians who walked over the border last year. To someone who lives in the East Bay it's clear that the new Hispanic arrivals -- heavily Amerindian -- are a big problem, and this is also the group with the highest birth rate, school drop out rate, and crime rate. Ron glosses over the high Hispanic murder rate by adjusting it for mean age, but since blacks commit the majority of murders in the US, the actuarial chart showing probability of committing murder vs age doesn't apply to whites (or to any one group for that matter), and will artificially depress the Hispanic murder rate. Actually, I'm surprised a sharp guy like Ron would make such an error, but he is clearly an immigration romanticist; otherwise, he wouldn't have pushed so hard to abolish bilingual education in California and elsewhere. What he fails to notice is that only one immigrant group has shown a tendency to stay trapped for generations in a linguistic underclass ghetto.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-13019701083640829772010-01-26T14:04:03.867-08:002010-01-26T14:04:03.867-08:00"Jews are forever criticizing European countr..."Jews are forever criticizing European countries for their alleged 'anti-semitism' even though they are living well there."<br /><br />Would you mind giving a few examples of this?<br /><br />"Yet any criticism of Israel w.r.t. how it treats is neighbors, which is gross by most of the world’s standards, is immediately rejected as anti-semitism so that the argument gets killed."<br /><br />Again, would you mind giving a few examples to put this into context?sabrilnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-21598436138053542772010-01-26T13:59:41.356-08:002010-01-26T13:59:41.356-08:00"On the one hand, Israel is special, unlike o..."On the one hand, Israel is special, unlike other nations,<br /> but, on the other hand, we aren't supposed to notice Israel's unique speciality [which is, again, unlike any other nation's]?"<br /><br />Special in exactly what way?<br /><br />"That's why I ask, tell me who are the Italians and Brits who are dual citizens who are holding high gov't officialships? I want to know so I can hold them in contempt, also."<br /><br />Also? As noted above, there is a threshold question here: Is Rahm Emmanuel a dual citizen or not?<br /><br />"You ought to be holding them in contempt with me"<br /><br />I'm not sure that "contempt" is the right word, but I would definitely agree with you if your point is that senior American officials should not be dual citizens with any country.<br /><br />"Why if he's going to enlist in an army would he not enlist in IDF, for goodness' sake?"<br /><br />I don't have a problem with ordinary Americans serving as enlisted men in foreign armies of countries allied with the United States. <br /><br />It's more of a problem if the person seeks high office.sabrilnoreply@blogger.com