tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post1637708047661558460..comments2024-03-27T18:24:19.683-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: Vibrant young minority sabermetriciansUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger100125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-21380381579686088032012-11-21T10:27:48.367-08:002012-11-21T10:27:48.367-08:00This post is brilliant, and if anything can put wh...This post is brilliant, and if anything can put white men in an endearing light, it is their geekish hobbies (provided that the story isn't spun into one of privilege and free time).<br /><br />Check out this picture from a quick google search for "home brewing convention": http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-MMqrTcU7n4Y/TgkqcVaMoFI/AAAAAAAAAe0/Z0oCKiC35mA/s1600/San%2BDiego%2B361.jpg<br /><br />I'd like to see the Romney % of the vote statistics broken down into one more dimension: homebrewer or not. My guess is that the married, white male, homebrewer doesn't easily or readily fall for the typical Obama BS.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-71596577903817171102012-11-21T09:35:32.263-08:002012-11-21T09:35:32.263-08:00Anonymous said...
@Svigor
..."You seem to eq...Anonymous said...<br />@Svigor<br /><br />..."You seem to equate the higher development of America to higher intelligence. And yet, as little as 30 years ago the Chinese, who routinely outscore white American on IQ tests, were as poor as Namibians. Riddle me that? It is not intelligence, but the CAPITALIST BOURGEOISE SYSTEM that explains the greater economic and technological might of Europe and latter the U.S compared to the rest of the World."<br /><br />So, you're completely on board then with getting Latinos to vote nearly 100% Convervative and/or Libertarian?<br /><br />See many Republicans have this notion that Latinos are natural Conservatives and will any day now wake to see this and become patrons of the Republican party, walking hand in hand with us to conserve upon our fine Christian/Individualist/Capitalist heritage.<br /><br />Many here on Steve's blog don't see it that way. I wish you'd elaborate on why Latinos tend to vote as a bloc against the white bourgeois. And don't say it's because they believe we here will try to replace our meritocracy with a caste system in honor of their arrival in the US - we whites love our meritocracy. Alas, we'll go out of our way to promote Latinos and Blacks to the upper crust of our society even though many who are beneficiaries don't deserve it by meritocratic standards. The only thing that ever subverts our meritocracy is when we go out of our way to prove we aren't racists.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-20976259682353442972012-11-21T07:00:22.621-08:002012-11-21T07:00:22.621-08:00Mathew said..
"All I can say is...wow.
Lots...Mathew said..<br /><br />"All I can say is...wow.<br /><br />Lots of attention given to the mostly well-known asshats within the GOP, like Grover Norquist, who are suddenly announcing that amnesty is the magic solution. But there are other voices in the GOP finally coming to their senses."<br /><br />I hope you're right. Right now there is a big choice facing the GOP. They've lost big which has put them in a state of shock. Knowing they're going to have to give in to Democrats they are debating what it should be. The knee jerk reaction of several analysts like Charles Krauthammer and Sean Hannity was "Amnesty! We give in!" They forget that the New York Times not that long ago was for limiting immigration from Mexico on behalf of the American worker. <br /><br />If Republicans have to give something up it should be the tax issue. If raising taxes is really going to hurt the economy, oh well let Obama and Democrats take the fall on that one. Everyone who pays attention to the news knows whose fault that one is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-16863633150923367912012-11-20T21:38:50.824-08:002012-11-20T21:38:50.824-08:00You guys are aware that all of this 'ruin geek...<i>You guys are aware that all of this 'ruin geeks lives' stuff is the way Americans let off steam at the 'Scots-Irish'</i><br /><br />A majority of nerds and geeks are not Jewish. That's a stupid strategy, but "letting off steam" is usually stupid in general. Maybe WASP-American kids should try studying more and goofing off less.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-67876039257486298462012-11-20T18:56:17.230-08:002012-11-20T18:56:17.230-08:00You guys are aware that all of this 'ruin geek...You guys are aware that all of this 'ruin geeks lives' stuff is the way Americans let off steam at the 'Scots-Irish' in an environment where outright racism is verboten, right?Lenny the Brucenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-799093257962437342012-11-20T15:42:48.493-08:002012-11-20T15:42:48.493-08:00I think it's funny that you guys would brag ab...<i>I think it's funny that you guys would brag about Witten and such since in your high school days you would probably have called these same guys "geeks" and "nerds", in the grand old Aemrican tradition of scorning intellectuals.</i><br /><br />Scorning intellectuals (especially young intellectuals) is a very recent American "tradition". Gibbs grew up in a different world then we did, a very alien and "elitist" world. Even Edison had the choice to educate himself rather than place himself at the mercy of School and Church. And that was a time when schools were more about education than forced socialization.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-72267698105706986142012-11-20T05:52:49.664-08:002012-11-20T05:52:49.664-08:00Franklin? My impression is he was a talented amat...Franklin? My impression is he was a talented amateur, a dabbler.<br /><br />He had a knack for finding problems of interest, even kind of starting to analyze them (see the population entry in that link along with Malthus).<br /><br />But in the end he lacked two things:<br /><br />1) Mathematical Sophistication<br /><br />2) Focus. No matter what his contributions to the formation of this country, and his own business endeavors, he was in a sense wasting his time with Politics, Writing, and Printing.<br /><br />He led his life in a normal manner for that day and time, but if you are going to make intellectual advances on par with people like Gauss, Euler, Gibbs you have to make that the center of your life.<br /><br />Also, he had a sixth sense at finding interesting things, but did he have a high enough IQ to "bring it home?"<br /><br />I have no idea. I somehow can't picture him ever being capable of achieving something like Maxwell's work.<br /><br />My take is he was a talented amateur.<br /><br />Yours may differ, and I'm only addressing his scientific and technical contributions.sunbeamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16540822135478202229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-66131848264196900682012-11-19T21:24:05.347-08:002012-11-19T21:24:05.347-08:00"Josiah Willard Gibbs was certainly a world c...<i>"Josiah Willard Gibbs was certainly a world class intellect.<br /><br />But he was a long time coming. And if the US produced a similar mind in the time from Plymouth, Virginia, or Croatan, I'm drawing a blank on who it was."</i><br /><br /><br />What's your take on the natural philosophy stuff by this guy Franklin?<br /><br /> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Franklin#Inventions_and_scientific_inquiries" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Franklin#Inventions_and_scientific_inquiries</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-80640423396574877902012-11-19T19:22:44.517-08:002012-11-19T19:22:44.517-08:00The instruments featured in Duelling Banjos was al...The instruments featured in Duelling Banjos was allegedly invented by the inventors of music (above) and we all know that they are essential in modern music.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-73735008671848554242012-11-19T19:22:27.972-08:002012-11-19T19:22:27.972-08:00@SvigorTrue, first contact was much earlier than 5... @SvigorTrue, first contact was much earlier than 500 AD. But by 500 AD, the Germanics had dismantled Rome's empire, and 700 years later they'd largely caught up. By 1500 they'd largely surpassed Rome."<br /><br /> LOL, the Germanics had not "surpassed" the Romans by 450 A.D. They were able to defeat the Romans militarilly because of their vastly superior numbers and because the Romans were cowardly and decadent by that point. Military power does not equate with having a superior culture. Going by your logic, the Mongols under Genghis Khan were culturally superior to the Tang Dynasty Chinese since they were able to conquer them. In terms of arts, literature, culture and science, the Romans were still VASTLY superior to the Germanic tribes in 450 A.D. In fact, the Germanics were on roughly the same level in 450 A.D that they were in 100 B.C when Marius fought them. And in 1,500 A.D, that was a THOUSAND years after Rome fell, and the Germans STILL lacked compared to the Romans from the time of Augustus. So how does this prove your point?<br /><br /> <br /><br /> <br /><br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-41414550823689340892012-11-19T18:25:15.404-08:002012-11-19T18:25:15.404-08:00"
, America was never a very intellectual cou..."<br />, America was never a very intellectual country anyway, with or without Latinos"<br /><br />Really?<br /><br />Nobel winners<br /><br />Medicine Nobels since 1960<br /><br />US 65<br />UK 10<br />Germany 7<br /><br /><br />Mexico has won 3 total, but only 1 in Science. The others are Peace and Liter.<br /><br /><br />per capita the UK and Sweden have done wellAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-5416043191111746102012-11-19T18:01:19.637-08:002012-11-19T18:01:19.637-08:00" All of America's intellectual achieveme..." All of America's intellectual achievements are made by a tiny elite that represents a small fration of one percent of the population"<br /><br />Same as Europe. <br /><br />Since 1990 33 Nobel Physics winners were from the US.<br /><br />20 from Europe including Russia.<br /><br />A few were associated with a couple of countries.<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nobel_laureates_in_Physics<br /><br />I've met many Europeans and they aren't more intellectual than the average American.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-50296777227294053242012-11-19T15:38:15.276-08:002012-11-19T15:38:15.276-08:00"Gradations are lost on some people."
W..."Gradations are lost on some people."<br /><br />What need do we have for "gradiations<br />Mr. Sex and relationship expert? I'm interested in whether those people are white, or not!Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-84608814738440718862012-11-19T14:29:14.661-08:002012-11-19T14:29:14.661-08:00tool:
"Are you ok, with these fine Aryan Afgh...tool:<br />"Are you ok, with these fine Aryan Afghans immigrating in mass, and bedding your daughters, or not?"<br /><br />Because, you know, Afghans = Germans.<br /><br />Gradations are lost on some people.heartistehttp://heartiste.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-23336516974378620032012-11-19T12:23:53.601-08:002012-11-19T12:23:53.601-08:00As for your comments on Germanics catching up to R...<i>As for your comments on Germanics catching up to Rome in 500 years, nonsense. The first contact between the Germanics and Rome were at the time of Gaius Marius, and 500 years latter, in 400 A.D, Rome was still VASTLY more advanced and richer than them. Even in 1,500 A.D, the German kingdoms still compared poorly to<br />Rome of Caesar's time in many areas like sanitation.</i><br /><br />True, first contact was much earlier than 500 AD. But by 500 AD, the Germanics had dismantled Rome's empire, and 700 years later they'd largely caught up. By 1500 they'd largely surpassed Rome.<br /><br />What were the other regions close to Rome doing?<br /><br />More germane (sorry :) ) was my point about amenities. SSAs and Mestizos have had the whole thing handed to them on a platter.<br /><br /><i>No, Mestizos have not had 500 years to catch up. This is what you don't understand. In Latin America, European conquerors conquered the Amerindians and established a caste society where their descendants would rule</i><br /><br />...and the Romans were humanitarians with broadband, and first contact with the Germanics was a love-in. Yeah, I get it.Svigornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-72033817460190538292012-11-19T07:34:41.794-08:002012-11-19T07:34:41.794-08:00"Anonymous said...
As for Charles Hard Towne..."Anonymous said...<br /><br />As for Charles Hard Townes, his works had PRACTICAL applications. He worked at Bell Laboratories, for f-ck sake! The guy was a capitalist servant, so nice way to shoot yourself in the proverbial foot. He worked on lasers and things like that."<br /><br />Practical applications!? The Horror! The Horror. I mean.....lasers - what the hell good are those?<br /><br />Of course, your ignoring a lot of other important American scientists: Gibbs, Millikan, Michaelson, Feynman, Schwinger, Gell-Mann, Neddermeyer, Anderson.<br /><br />You are an ignorant idiot.Mr. Anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-14387680392855034172012-11-19T06:59:36.633-08:002012-11-19T06:59:36.633-08:00" Mestizos and blacks would've done it in..." Mestizos and blacks would've done it in the last 100 years, if they were capable."<br /><br />More sophist idiocy.Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-41611327446283678202012-11-19T06:58:01.687-08:002012-11-19T06:58:01.687-08:00"If, like most Anthropologists you consider t..."If, like most Anthropologists you consider the Mughals (from around Afghanistan) to be Caucasian,"<br /><br />The question is, what do YOU think? Are you ok, with these fine Aryan Afghans immigrating in mass, and bedding your daughters, or not?<br /><br />"Only in the Hollywood fictions of George Lucas."<br /><br />So the answer is "no" and the original point about whites, yellows blacks is moot, did I get this correct?Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-79829236657274992082012-11-19T06:40:06.463-08:002012-11-19T06:40:06.463-08:00"The first contact between the Germanics and ..."<i>The first contact between the Germanics and Rome were at the time of Gaius Marius</i>"<br /><br />The Germanics and the early-Romans were of essentially the same deep racial-stock. <br /><br />That is: Early Roman accomplishments and German(ic) accomplishments are both manifestations of the same thing.<br /><br />The ("early") Roman core was overwhelmed by an imperial-era flood of immigration and profligate slavery. Roman decline set in. The Roman core population was disappearing. Inertia kept the multiracial Roman Empire plowing along for a while, but the creative spirit was exhausted (as the USA's increasingly is, today). Eventually it fell apart, and the Germanics picked up the pieces (cousins, broadly, of the Roman founding population).Hailhttp://hailtoyou.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-7811169205702401862012-11-19T06:11:46.415-08:002012-11-19T06:11:46.415-08:00dcite said . . .
"The average white America...<br />dcite said . . .<br /><br /><i><br />"The average white American cannot locate his own country on an Atlas and cannot name who was president during the American Civil War"<br /><br />Ridiculous. You must be including the black and hispanic ones, because I've known many, many prole (I was working class) kids, and all but a few of the dimmest knew these things.</i><br /><br />Did you know any prole white girls?<br /><br /><i> My brother, who later majored in physics, and I, used to read the one set of encyclopedias in our home constantly, along with the comic books</i><br /><br />Question answered.Billnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-21058395368594405222012-11-19T05:38:07.605-08:002012-11-19T05:38:07.605-08:00Josiah Willard Gibbs was certainly a world class i...Josiah Willard Gibbs was certainly a world class intellect.<br /><br />But he was a long time coming. And if the US produced a similar mind in the time from Plymouth, Virginia, or Croatan, I'm drawing a blank on who it was.<br /><br />Roughly 250 years or so to produce this individual. Edison was a different kind of mind, one more uniquely American I think.<br /><br />And just as a quibble, I think Gibbs Free Energy is something I would have been prouder of if I were Gibbs than Vector Calculus. sunbeamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16540822135478202229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-51469727416481759032012-11-19T01:50:33.767-08:002012-11-19T01:50:33.767-08:00@Svigor
"Mestizos have had 500 years to so... @Svigor<br /><br /> "Mestizos have had 500 years to soak up western civilization. Blacks have had 3,000.<br /><br />The Germanics caught up with the Romans in 500 years, and this was long before instant global communications, computers, strong institutions, foreign aid, etc. They went on to far surpass the Romans. Mestizos and blacks would've done it in the last 100 years, if they were capable."<br /><br /> No, Mestizos have not had 500 years to catch up. This is what you don't understand. In Latin America, European conquerors conquered the Amerindians and established a caste society where their descendants would rule, and the Amerindians and mestizos would be kept as their identured servants. Mestizos were barred from education, from opportunities in government and such. The elite also put on political reguçlations to forbid economic and technological progress because they didn't want any rivals for their power. With money comes political power, and if economic activity were free and all kinds of economic endevours allowed, a new class could arrise that would usurp their power. Hence, they maintained their societies primitive and agrarian on purpose. Did you know that, for instance, in Brazil it was forbidden BY LAW for there to be any industries up to the 1940s? How can you compare that to a country such as the U.S where, from the beggening, was established with the values of the bourgeoise merchant class from England, with it's emphasis on commercial ventures and economic freedom?<br /><br /> You seem to equate the higher development of America to higher intelligence. And yet, as little as 30 years ago the Chinese, who routinely outscore white American on IQ tests, were as poor as Namibians. Riddle me that? It is not intelligence, but the CAPITALIST BOURGEOISE SYSTEM that explains the greater economic and technological might of Europe and latter the U.S compared to the rest of the World. Here is why:<br /><br /> Intelligence can only work to produce things and discover things if it is ALLOWED to and if there is a MOTIVATION for it. In feudal societyies like those of Latin America or Tang Dynasty China, or in a Marxist society, there is no motivation. In a feudal society, there is no incentive to produce because the elite can rule by force and STEAL the wealth from commoners. Hence, all they need is maintain the status quo and rule by force. In a Marxist society, there is no incentive because, no matter what, you cannot better your station in life if not for the government deciding to. <br /><br /> What explains the economic and technological greatness of the West is the principle of EQUALITY BEFORE THE LAW. This revolutionary idea is what propelled the rise of the West over the past centuries. When you cannot use force to steal wealth from others, the only way to increase your status and better your lot in life is to PRODUCE goods and services that others, voluntarilly, want to purchase from you. This means never-ending economic growth with greater production and consumption. Also, because technology vastly improves the quality of production and decreases costs, the politically equalitarian society fosters continued scientific and technological progress. <br /><br /> Latin America has actually progressed tremendously over the past 40 years since the educated upper middle-class has decided that they are tired of the feudal nepotism and clientelism of their societies and made their societies freer - except for Venezuela and Argentina. Brazil, for instance, has a larger GDP than Great Brtain, the #3 steel producer, the #4 producer of automobiles and the #1 producer of soy and coffee, as well as the #2 producer of rice.<br /><br /> As for your comments on Germanics catching up to Rome in 500 years, nonsense. The first contact between the Germanics and Rome were at the time of Gaius Marius, and 500 years latter, in 400 A.D, Rome was still VASTLY more advanced and richer than them. Even in 1,500 A.D, the German kingdoms still compared poorly to <br />Rome of Caesar's time in many areas like sanitation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-29454140470894339312012-11-18T22:31:37.363-08:002012-11-18T22:31:37.363-08:00"And finally, America was never a very intell...<i>"And finally, America was never a very intellectual country anyway, ... <br /><br />America has not produced any great ... physicists or mathematicians."</i><br /><br />Perhaps many do not know much about America or about the history of physics and math. Anyone who has ever taken an undergrad science and engineering course will remember all that vector calculus. Ever wonder who developed that? I mean, you can't do science or engineering anywhere in the world without being immersed in it.<br /><br />(Three of the 4 names you mentioned were directly involved in the invention of the calculus, a once-in-history opportunity. You left out many others, in particular the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernoulli_family" rel="nofollow">Bernoullis</a>, perhaps they undermine the lone genius theory of such things and raise genetic questions... Gauss came later, you might say he was kind of a clean-up hitter on a lot of things.)<br /><br />But back to the inventor of vector calculus. It's likely most don't even recognize the name. Of course he had a lot of like-minded help, over a long time, as befitting someone representative of the subjects of this thread (and I don't want to slight <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliver_Heaviside" rel="nofollow">Heavside</a> or <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermann_Grassmann" rel="nofollow">Grassmann</a>):<br /><br /> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josiah_Willard_Gibbs" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josiah_Willard_Gibbs</a><br /><br /> "... he was largely responsible for the development of the vector calculus techniques still used today..."<br /><br />Perhaps it's an American problem that we don't recognize and promote our "stars" in some of these areas as much as we might (but there are so many!). It may also say something about a more modest, self-effacing time, an approach and culture that would find today's constant loud self-promotion off-putting and outright vulgar. The older I get the more I've found some types of folks from some places just find this attitude alien and incomprehensible.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-25901237333219810432012-11-18T21:46:40.298-08:002012-11-18T21:46:40.298-08:00"America has not produced any great philosoph..."America has not produced any great philosopher, artists, physicists or mathematicians. No Nerwtons, Gausses, Eulers or Leibnizes."<br /><br /> What, Richard Feynman is chopped liver?kaganovitchnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-52839872721946609162012-11-18T20:50:00.569-08:002012-11-18T20:50:00.569-08:00And I would also say that blacks have built a grea...<i>And I would also say that blacks have built a great deal.</i><br /><br />First lets note with a wry smile that you are informing us of this using a language originating in Europe (English), via a system (internet) created by white people using a device (PC, phone whatever) invented by white people.<br /><br /><i>All modern music you listen too have their origin in black culture. White people merely copied what black people created.</i><br /><br />All? Thats a bit of stretch right there.<br /><br />Anyhow the idea that blacks are the unique component in 'modern music' relies to some extent on excluding all sorts of factors to level the playing field.<br /><br />As a little thought experiment lets remove all the white inputs into 'modern music' and see what creative blacks are left to work with.<br /><br />Lets start of with live performance, we can start off by taking electric amplification out of the equation. Oh dear, thats a bit of a blow already isnt it. (I could just take electricity out of the equation right there but thats no fun). See, already something I know you've taken for granted is out of play and the musical landscape is changed.<br /><br />Then lets have you list all the musical instruments you can think of that werent invented by whites.<br /><br />Im going to separate conventional instruments from synthesizers, computers, software and studio technology. Obviously they are all off-limits now as well.<br /><br />Then there is the listening part of the process, Ive already taken away amplification but now we have to take wax cylinders, vinyl records, radio, TV, internet, cassettes, tapes, CDs and MP3s away too.<br /><br />So how is this black creativity going to work now, without 99% of the instruments, none of the modern studio technology, any form of reproduction etc.<br /><br />This is all aside from other elements like musical forms and styles that blacks have copied and adapted from whites. Even the harmonic scales used in most modern music were a European invention.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com