tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post1830773114297590614..comments2024-03-27T18:24:19.683-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: OktoberfestUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger100125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-36156316970300240742011-10-19T08:35:14.271-07:002011-10-19T08:35:14.271-07:00Re: East Asians and alcohol:
"Alcohol dehydro...Re: East Asians and alcohol:<br />"Alcohol dehydrogenase activity varies between men and women, between young and old, and among populations from different areas of the world. For example, young women are unable to process alcohol at the same rate as young men because they do not express the alcohol dehydrogenase as highly. Though, the inverse is true amongst the middle-aged.[18] The level of activity may not only be dependent on level of expression but due to allelic diversity among the population."Dutch Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02687679491743923216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-28602284471646180052011-10-18T16:08:18.538-07:002011-10-18T16:08:18.538-07:00Well, that army nerd story from Ms. Lithwick above...Well, that army nerd story from Ms. Lithwick above was real interesting, but nobody's answered *my* question yet: what's the evolutionary dope on why E-Asians get blitzed so quickly? I've never been to a bar with Koreans that didn't turn redder than a Matt Drudge headline after the second or third round. The Wikipedia ALDH2 article says something about taking Zantac to avoid it but makes an unsubstantiated conclusion that flushers are less prone to alcoholism.liquor up frontnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-84675419356819606222011-10-18T11:04:17.030-07:002011-10-18T11:04:17.030-07:00>People with blank or colorless personality are...>People with blank or colorless personality are likely to think in terms of correct or incorrect, proper or improper. And having 'dull' personalities, they'll go by the rules and accept something as right or wrong.<<br /><br />Every office drone convicted of embezzling some amount <$1 mil turns out to be a blank, colorless white frump. The photo is always the same: 1970s haircut, big glasses, pasty plump face, blank expression.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-8419437580300146082011-10-17T21:12:59.895-07:002011-10-17T21:12:59.895-07:00You gotta feel sorry for the average and plain chi...<i>You gotta feel sorry for the average and plain chicks, what with being stuck with the beta and omega dregs.</i><br /><br />Why would you feel sorry for a couple that are similar in social status, appearance and ability. That's how it should be.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-59769631104493068422011-10-17T15:11:47.568-07:002011-10-17T15:11:47.568-07:00> Italy? Italian men are usually disgusting. Th...> Italy? Italian men are usually disgusting. They really do try to cop a feel at every chance, at least from women they recognize as tourists. I'm ethnically part Italian and I hated it.<br /><br />I'm Italian and somewhat offended by it. But you are right.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-52125895232847342892011-10-16T09:42:56.025-07:002011-10-16T09:42:56.025-07:00Do you suppose there's a relation between cult...Do you suppose there's a relation between cultural personality(or personality of culture)and corruption? More staid a people are, less corrupt they are. More colorful they are, more corrupt? <br /><br />People with blank or colorless personality are likely to think in terms of correct or incorrect, proper or improper. And having 'dull' personalities, they'll go by the rules and accept something as right or wrong. If they do wrong, they don't feel like making flowery excuses cuz their personalities aren't expressive. <br /><br />But Italians and blacks are very expressive and colorful. They 'think' with their emotions and naturally seem to think finding 'creative' excuses for bending the rules is what it's all about. LIke the guy in COOLEY HIGH says at the end: "I can lie and cheat too good not to survive." Because expressiveness and making an impression come before understanding and responsibility, the mouth runs before the mind. Rap is very much like this. It's like the mouth is attached to the ego while entirley bypassing the mind. It's someone who knows nothing and has no sense of responsibility acting like he's the authority on everything and indeed deserves to have the authority. <br /><br />Among blacks and Italians with power, we often have the demagogue who is style than substance. All swagger, show, expression. <br />Among blacks and Italians without power, it's all 'creative' excuse-making and sweet-talk. A black guy will come late to work but then smile and sweet-talk his boss and come up with all sorts of jivey excuses. Same with Italians. Watch I VITELLONI and they are masters of the creative excuse. <br /><br />Northern Europeans, being personality-wise more staid and restrained, would be ashamed to make such spectacle of themselves. It would be improper. Now, being of colorless personality doesn't necessarily mean a person is more thoughtful. He could simply be more dogmatic, robotic, or programmed. Lacking a 'creative' ego, he may just choose to go with the system--like Japanese or Germans under Nazis. <br /><br />I think Jews have the advantage of both individual 'creative' expressiveness and rule-centrism. Jews are deeply interested in the law and procedures(like Northern Europeans), but they also prefer to be creative(controlling the law than being controlled by the law, creating rules than obeying rules). <br /><br />Obama seems to be playing a double game too. On the one hand, he plays the more restrained Negro, closer to Northern European model than Negro culture in America rooted in the colorful Soooooouth. <br />But he also mastered the art of 'creatively' sweet-talking himself into the halls of power by playing to Jews and liberal Wasps.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-26049147864150954132011-10-16T09:10:56.001-07:002011-10-16T09:10:56.001-07:00I think Italian women do a lot of ogling too, albe...<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsZ5MsgdlSw" rel="nofollow">I think Italian women do a lot of ogling too, albeit not so blatantly.</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-5160439708958524732011-10-16T08:59:29.681-07:002011-10-16T08:59:29.681-07:00"Don't let a great love affair pass you b..."Don't let a great love affair pass you by."<br /><br />Kylie is already in a virtual love triangle with Kud-Bobby; a love rectangle doesn't work so well.Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-23824778488022766762011-10-16T08:53:34.693-07:002011-10-16T08:53:34.693-07:00There is no mention of the famous line across Euro...There is no mention of the famous line across Europe that defines the extent of the Roman Empire. On one side of the line is an historical wine-drinking culture; on the other side, an historical beer-drinking culture. It sounds like the influence and use of alcohol in each culture remains distinct to this day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-28924099889745195612011-10-16T07:55:12.182-07:002011-10-16T07:55:12.182-07:00"And from what I see during my daily routines...<i>"And from what I see during my daily routines, White men aren't demonstrating this refined taste that you're crediting us with."</i><br /><br />From what I see during my weekly shopping trips (in a small town that nevertheless is the biggest one around so we get people from the surrounding rural areas), white men do indeed appear in public with more attractive women than do black men. Even factoring in the willingness of blacks to date heavier women, I notice these women are overall less attractive. They often are sloppily dressed (not in the way that some celebs affect but truly sloppy) with that pasty skin I see among poorer whites. They tend to be the kind of women that you wonder what they'd look like if they were all cleaned up. The white women I see with white guys tend to be definitely neater and cleaner, with some effort made to look stylish in a not-whorish way.<br /><br />I think those who've replied to me in this thread are thinking in absolute not comparative terms. For "refined taste", try substituting "not great but noticeably better than". <br /><br />Also, I think there's less of a difference in female attractiveness in a more urban aresa. There you'll find lots of reasonably nice-looking white women who date blacks partly as a political gesture. But here in the sticks, unattractive white women are to be seen mostly in the company of poor white men (banjos) or blacks.Kylienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-26343554925605199442011-10-16T06:41:27.539-07:002011-10-16T06:41:27.539-07:00"But that's how it works with men of all ..."But that's how it works with men of all races. A few men, top dogs, date the good looking girls."<br /><br />This isn't really true. Some women go for creative guys. Stick around art school,and girls go for ugliest guys who are supposed to be 'creative'. <br /><br />And then there are good looking guys who date ugly girls. <br />I think in that case, the guy falls in love with the girl's love for him. She may not be much, but her worshipful love for him turns him on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-92168567067910789932011-10-16T05:40:57.268-07:002011-10-16T05:40:57.268-07:00But that's how it works with men of all races....<i>But that's how it works with men of all races. A few men, top dogs, date the good looking girls. The rest, betas and omegas, are left with the scraps of average and plain looking girls. </i><br /><br />You gotta feel sorry for the average and plain chicks, what with being stuck with the beta and omega dregs.robnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-42220825594306857742011-10-16T01:16:54.098-07:002011-10-16T01:16:54.098-07:00Speaking of that, I have a friend
I'm laughin...<i>Speaking of that, I have a friend</i><br /><br />I'm laughing already, troof, nicely doneUdolpho.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12976984423336975944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-29805143800870653842011-10-15T20:22:06.393-07:002011-10-15T20:22:06.393-07:00you'll see a cute white girl with a black man ...<i>you'll see a cute white girl with a black man but more often, it's the homely white women who have to go with black men or go without</i><br /><br />But that's how it works with men of all races. A few men, top dogs, date the good looking girls. The rest, betas and omegas, are left with the scraps of average and plain looking girls. <br /><br />The alarming thing is that black men are replicating this traditional scheme with the women of another race.<br /><br />And from what I see during my daily routines, White men aren't demonstrating this refined taste that you're crediting us with. I often think 'you would have been better off with a lovedoll than <i>that</i>. I hate to see people settle for less than what they're worth.Emma the Studenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15295621999623264436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-85950326715380419452011-10-15T19:58:27.432-07:002011-10-15T19:58:27.432-07:00From what I see out on the streets, nobody is bein...From what I see out on the streets, nobody is being discerning. The only men who can date attractive women now are the rich, the famous and the alphas.<br /><br />Everyone else, of all races, is taking what they can get.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-40609764264832522112011-10-15T19:41:55.000-07:002011-10-15T19:41:55.000-07:00You suppose that the Italians just like to ogle pr...You suppose that the Italians just like to ogle pretty girls? It could be that simple.Dutch Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02687679491743923216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-46377308697147376112011-10-15T18:14:26.332-07:002011-10-15T18:14:26.332-07:00@Kylie
I think you and Truth have a bit of a conn...@Kylie<br /><br />I think you and Truth have a bit of a connection. He was the only one who got your Frank Zappa joke in this thread:<br /><br />http://isteve.blogspot.com/2011/01/blue-valentine.html<br /><br />Don't let a great love affair pass you by.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-27318280107933473052011-10-15T16:09:29.259-07:002011-10-15T16:09:29.259-07:00"I only wish more black men realized their se..."I only wish more black men realized their sexual success depends largely on the superior discrimination of white men."<br /><br />What appeals to men of other races seems somewhat culturally determined. Black men like lots of something so overweight white females that many white guys won't date really are sexy to black males. They also like T&/A on any size female, exaggeration is key here as black females' physical features definitely tend to be extreme. <br /><br />The woman featured in this post, though most certainly a beauty, probably wouldn't attract many black males. I think I could go down a list of white female celebrities and sort pretty accurately which ones would have crossover appeal just as it's easy enough to pick out which black female entertainers will be attractive to white males<br /><br />As for the voluptuous white females, it's sad when you think that of course they've been attracting their own men for generations otherwise they wouldn't exist but, due to popular culture, they are now perceived as less desirable. <br /><br />You obviously haven't dated in awhile, Kylie, and I bet you hardly ever got hit on by black males. Popular culture seems to have affected white males more than anyone else which makes it disingenuous to claim you know what white guys want in a woman. Even when I was young the split between status seeking and true desire were starting to be apparent, white guys from the country wouldn't hesitate to date a plump yet pretty girl while guys in the city might give into a natural proclivity for a fleshier type of woman yet treat her badly b/c of what his friends might think. <br /><br />What generally happened was that such white guys would find a curvy girl who was managing to keep her weight down. Alas, this body type inevitably ends up plump in middle age anyway. Black guys never turned their nose up at it; white guys trying to look cool might have missed out on what really piqued their interest. Oddly enough, the white race has probably ended up losing some of their most maternal/feminine women as a result.<br /><br />Not to mention, I've noticed that married people are less not more attractive than singles. I've never quite figured this out yet a sample of any of the couples living in my area will confirm that even relatively young married people start looking plain and dressing middle aged soon after tying the knot. Most of them are, in fact, 15lbs or more overweight while their clothes range from blah to embarrassing. Only one of the wives has kept her looks but her clothes are still kinda blah. Everyone else though conforming to stereotype without putting up a fight.smarter than mitchnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-24548988560263732542011-10-15T15:07:58.831-07:002011-10-15T15:07:58.831-07:00It could be Italian men may act and seem more lewd...It could be Italian men may act and seem more lewd to outside women. It might be called the 'substitute teacher syndrome'. Ever notice that kids mostly listen to their regular teacher and behave, but when a substitute takes over, hell breaks out. <br /><br />I remember it was especially crazy in city public school, but things could get crazy even in white suburban school. One day our algebra teacher in freshmen yr took a day off, and we gave the sub a very hard time. But we weren't usually like that. <br /><br />It could be Italian men are generally not like that with most women in the community. This woman could be someone's mother, that woman could be someone's wife, this here woman could be someone's sister, that there woman could be someone's daughter. Wrong word said about or to a woman in the community can lead to problem. Smack one's lips at a certain woman, and her father or brother or hubby might feel obligated by honor to come and kick your arse. <br /><br />But outside women, especially tourists or from another town, are fair game. So, the men, who'd been rather staid and proper with women of the commuity, might get all out of control with outside women. Greek men are like this too, I heard. But as we've seen in Zorba the Greek, you can get in serious trouble by violating sexual rules within the community.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-83969491048102928692011-10-15T15:04:42.078-07:002011-10-15T15:04:42.078-07:00I don't believe Kate Fox's assertions that...I don't believe Kate Fox's assertions that controlled scientific experiments show that the effects of alcohol depend only on cultural influences.<br /><br />It's an obvious non-sequitur that "this variation [in disinhibition] cannot be attributed to different levels of consumption - most integrated drinking cultures have significantly higher per-capita alcohol consumption than the ambivalent drinking cultures." Higher per-capita consumption means <i>more tolerance</i> on average. It is foolish to suppose that people with more acquired tolerance for alcohol will show more, rather than less, disinhibition when they consume alcohol!<br /><br />Also, the sort studies Fox wants us to rely on do not adequately control for "ethnicity" (race).<br /><br />Her "integrated drinking cultures" are inhabited by <i>different people</i> than her "ambivalent drinking cultures."<br /><br />I'm not saying there's no "cultural" aspect to things-- and other people have developed different labels for the different cultural spheres, such as "wine-bibbing" cultures versus "beer-swilling" cultures.<br /><br />However, I'm aware of scientific reasons to think that people from different groups react to alcohol differently because of physiological differences (and perhaps, I suggests, different degrees of acquired tolerance). Look at the Amerinds who can't acquire much tolerance--and who get disinhibited regardless of their cultural affinities.Pipernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-39125267697392644922011-10-15T09:24:40.843-07:002011-10-15T09:24:40.843-07:00When I worked in a German office in the 1980s it w...When I worked in a German office in the 1980s it was normal to nurse a beer at your desk during a hot afternoon. Not only that, a minor office celebration (a birthday or whatever) might involve cracking open a bottle of liquor. <br /><br />One Friday afternoon my boss plied me with brandy-and-cokes till I was so hammered I couldn't do anything except stamp paperwork. Fortunately, there was a lot of stamping to be done.<br /><br />CennbeorcAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-64313784106353617372011-10-15T08:14:55.722-07:002011-10-15T08:14:55.722-07:00"There's a discussion going on at OneSTDV...<i>"There's a discussion going on at OneSTDV here about aggressive pick-up techniques, especially the 'cold call'. Female input would be appreciated."</i><br /><br />The Anonymous who posted at 10/13/2011 4:23 p.m. in that thread expressed my own views.<br /><br />I'm a middle-aged woman so don't get nor expect to get the type or degree of attention from men I got when younger. But I never have felt the least bit flattered by the so-called "cold call" approach referred to in that thread. All it tells me is that some male jerk wants to use me as an anatomically correct receptacle. What's to like about that?<br /><br />Even worse, when blacks use this approach, they always manage to suggest that they are doing you a favor. The combined ignorance and arrogance is extremely off-putting to me but I think many women see only the latter and misinterpret it as confidence.<br /><br />I have to laugh when I think about the unattractive white women who have openly acknowledged that they "date" black men b/c white men won't date them. Sure, you'll see a cute white girl with a black man but more often, it's the homely white women who have to go with black men or go without. I only wish more black men realized their sexual success depends largely on the superior discrimination of white men.Kylienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-26310230403158586512011-10-15T07:13:21.282-07:002011-10-15T07:13:21.282-07:00I am surprised this paper from 2004 has not been m...I am surprised this paper from 2004 has not been mentioned.<br /><br />"Genetic Variability, Economic Behavior and the<br />Formation of Social Norms: The Case of European Alcohol Consumption"<br /><br />Their case is that us Northern Europeans self-medicate with alcohol in order to overcome our inherent shyness and that these genetic predispositions are then socially reinforced to create the Northern European culture of excessive drinking in social situations.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-47249159007104080622011-10-15T05:58:31.729-07:002011-10-15T05:58:31.729-07:00"Orson Welles in his "F for Fake" i..."Orson Welles in his "F for Fake" includes an episode in which he did this very thing -- train hidden cameras (multiple movie cameras, in this case) on an attractive woman and send her walking down a street in Italy."<br /><br />Italians just don't get it. It's like they love to talk about gals and call out to gals but it suddenly becomes a matter of HONOR if the girl happens to be one of the family.<br />Remember in GODFATHER, Michael and his two bodyguards come upon a man and they are talking about this girl, and the old man is listening is enjoying it... and then he realizes the woman in question is his daughter, and it becomes a very serious matter of honor and respect. <br /><br />It's like how blacks act. They talk about hos but if someone be talking about their mama, dang, dat shit aint funny.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-90678114892574625872011-10-15T02:00:58.591-07:002011-10-15T02:00:58.591-07:00Instead of discussing stereotypes, does anyone hav...Instead of discussing stereotypes, does anyone have any statistics to back up their stereotypes. Maybe data on per capita consumption of alcohol (wine, beer, hard liquor). What are the per capita statistics on drunk driving, domestic abuse, murder, car fatalities that could be used to support the stereotypes. <br /><br />Are there statistics on per capita treatment for alcoholism, liver disease, or other diseases that could be associated with alcohol abuse. <br /><br />My guess is that the statistics will not support all of stereotypes discussed here.guest007noreply@blogger.com