tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post2059201474271384747..comments2024-03-28T16:22:14.888-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: "He who controls the past, controls the future"Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger54125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-6475017318593561642009-09-03T11:10:36.896-07:002009-09-03T11:10:36.896-07:00>He tells us that that the Papists ("Siste...>He tells us that that the Papists ("Sister Mary Ignatius") invented the tale that the heathen Darwin had a dramatic death bed conversion.<<br /><br />Factually incorrect. I said it was reported, not invented. And this was a tongue-in-cheek fictional example.<br /><br />Is contraception nihilist? There is plenty of potential in condom-branding if so. We could get rich and donate the loot to overseas orphanages.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-10827194478215610042009-09-02T18:07:55.867-07:002009-09-02T18:07:55.867-07:00OK, I’ll take David’s bait.
First, note his use o...OK, I’ll take David’s bait.<br /><br />First, note his use of the insulting word “Papist”. Our David is not one for a civilized discussion of differing views.<br /><br />And nor does he have a regard for mere facts. He tells us that that the Papists (“Sister Mary Ignatius”) invented the tale that the heathen Darwin had a dramatic death bed conversion. <br /><br />Actually, this originated with the protestant “temperance and revival evangelist Lady Elizabeth Hope” (if David is interested, there’s a good discussion at http://www.darwin-legend.org/html/Charles-Darwin-Three-Minilegends.htm).Felixnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-67162805625818222632009-09-02T12:40:29.991-07:002009-09-02T12:40:29.991-07:00I admire Shockley precisely for his ability to agi...I admire Shockley precisely for his ability to agitate those I find so annoyingly sanctimonious yet not intellectually curious enough to rigorously investigate whether his theories are valid. <br /><br />"Are we allowed to castigate Margaret Sanger as well, or is she safe since she's Billary's idol...?"<br /><br />Margaret Sanger gets a pass. She was most recently lionized by adoring contributor to Bob Edwards Weekend, Dan Gediman. Surprisingly, there was no mention her being the "brutal gardener", eradicating the human weeds, or that blacks have abortions at 3x the rate of whites.Marc Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15526121114466617234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-13254329841491779602009-09-02T08:31:15.512-07:002009-09-02T08:31:15.512-07:00"I just watched Mike Judge's movie "..."I just watched Mike Judge's movie "Idiocracy" the other night, and wondered what's more desirable: a society with a sound, humane eugenics policy or the worst of all possible worlds: an out-of-control defacto reverse eugenics policy."<br /><br />That's funny, I watched King Kong last night, and I wondered what's more desirable, a world where nature's most intelligent beasts are locked up in cages, or having a rampaging 75 foot gorilla swatting bi-planes out of the air!?<br /><br />"In the documentary, "A Conversation About Race," one of the respondents says that computers are racist because they are too difficult to use...."<br /><br />I you think that's ridiculous, I once visited a website where a small majority of the posters believed that people some years ago looked over their shoulders and turned into pillars of salt! Oh wait a minute, it was this one.Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-32133690045706163722009-09-02T07:52:02.834-07:002009-09-02T07:52:02.834-07:00but it might be easier to formulate public policy ...<i>but it might be easier to formulate public policy which discouraged the below average from breeding as often - rather than one which boosted the birthrate amongst the above average</i> <br /><br />So your solution is to impose your own nihilism upon the lesser races?<br /><br />Have you thought about why that might be?<br /><br />I.e. why it is that nihilism demands nihilism?Lucius Vorenusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-48765503068492914942009-09-02T06:03:13.486-07:002009-09-02T06:03:13.486-07:00>A civilization can accomodate legions of stupi...>A civilization can accomodate legions of stupid people<<br /><br />Not really.<br /><br />Name one militarily successful civilization heretofore that did not eventually fall under the weight of its stupids.<br /><br />Mencken had a theory that the Black Death (er, the Plague) was a necessary condition of the Renaissance.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-73871995862074703062009-09-02T05:41:21.226-07:002009-09-02T05:41:21.226-07:00>Pauling's beliefs and why they in particul...>Pauling's beliefs and why they in particular equated to nihilism?<<br /><br />Pauling was not a papist. Ergo, nihilist. I hear Darwin was a heathen, too, until his dramatic death bed confession as reported in St. Peter's Weekly Journal and Epistle by Sister Mary Ignatius of Ellicot City, Maryland. PRAISE THE LORD!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-18162787679043476492009-09-02T00:38:38.863-07:002009-09-02T00:38:38.863-07:001. I’d agree with Lucius Vorenus that “our proble...1. I’d agree with Lucius Vorenus that “our problem is not that stupid people are having too many babies, but rather that smart people are having too few babies”.<br /><br />Which takes me to Anonymous’ paean, “Singapore ... a very smart place. There, smart people are encouraged to have children ... the opposite to what is happening in western countries”.<br /><br />But such utopias don’t work. True, the Singapore Government is trying to get smart young Chinese to have kids but it’s not happening. <br /><br /><br />2. And, apropos of the attack on Shockley, I’m reminded of a piece by a fundamentalist asserting that the sun goes round the earth (sic). <br /><br />Much of his argument was about the low morals of types like Galileo, Kepler, and Newton.Felixnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-73313579033564294022009-09-01T23:35:08.449-07:002009-09-01T23:35:08.449-07:00I dunno if Steve would consider that sciencedaily....I dunno if Steve would consider that sciencedaily.com press release worth a response (the working url is http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/08/090831212951.htm )<br /><br />To me, such studies are uninteresting because if you're trying to study race, you should look for the populations in which a casual observer does tend to notice a racial difference, and ask yourself if he is correct to do so. If a normal smart person were to ask himself, "hypothesizing that racial differences really are significant, where would I expect to find the MOST significant racial differences?" I think the very last thing he would consider is to dive into the big mixing bowl of Central Asia and compare a village of Uzbekhs to a village of Afghans - which, oddly enough, seems to be just what the authors of this study did.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-55402107699057946202009-09-01T22:33:59.574-07:002009-09-01T22:33:59.574-07:00I just watched Mike Judge's movie "Idiocr...I just watched Mike Judge's movie "Idiocracy" the other night, and wondered what's more desirable: a society with a sound, humane eugenics policy or the worst of all possible worlds: an out-of-control defacto reverse eugenics policy.<br /><br />S. SmithAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-66814068610782456902009-09-01T21:58:11.342-07:002009-09-01T21:58:11.342-07:00"I once simply pointed out that blacks commit..."I once simply pointed out that blacks commit more crimes and someone claimed the statistics (the numbers themselves) were racist."<br /><br />In the documentary, "A Conversation About Race," one of the respondents says that computers are racist because they are too difficult to use.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-61457528083442512172009-09-01T21:40:13.943-07:002009-09-01T21:40:13.943-07:00LV - For the record, our problem is not that stupi...LV - <i>For the record, our problem is not that stupid people are having too many babies, but rather that smart people are having too few babies</i>.<br /><br />True, but it might be easier to formulate public policy which discouraged the below average from breeding as often - rather than one which boosted the birthrate amongst the above average.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-2189686451377784732009-09-01T17:01:39.928-07:002009-09-01T17:01:39.928-07:00ANON #1: Just returned from Singapore...now has to...<b>ANON #1:</b> <i>Just returned from Singapore...now has to be the most impressively run city in the world. A very smart place. There , smart people are encouraged to have children...the opposite to what is happening in western countries.</i> <br /><br /><b>ANON #2:</b> <i>I did notice an eyebrow raising 5 point increase in mean IQ for Singapore when comparing the statistics cited in 2002's IQ and the Wealth of Nations and 2006's IQ and Global Inequality, tying them with Hong Kong for tops in the world. It's certainly a strictly run place though.</i> <br /><br /><br /><b>List of countries and territories by fertility rate</b> <br /><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_and_territories_by_fertility_rate" rel="nofollow">en.wikipedia.org</a> <br /><br />Singapore, UN, 2000-2005: 1.35<br />Singapore, UN, 2005-2010: 1.26, #186 of 195<br />Singapore, CIA, 2000: 1.16<br />Singapore, CIA, 2008: 1.08 , #221 of 223<br /><br />Hong Kong, UN, 2000-2005: 0.94<br />Hong Kong, UN, 2005-2010: 0.97, #194 of 195<br />Hong Kong, CIA, 2000: 1.27<br />Hong Kong, CIA, 2008: 1.00, #222 of 223<br /><br /><br />Singapore and Hong Kong are already extinct.<br /><br />They are akin to archaeological zoos - or amusement parks - inhabited by the living dead.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-31365868417521313202009-09-01T16:37:23.844-07:002009-09-01T16:37:23.844-07:00A civilization can accomodate legions of stupid pe...<i>A civilization can accomodate legions of stupid people, but it will perish and disappear if there are too few smart people.</i> <br /><br />Nah, you need a decent mean IQ as well. Too many stupids make advanced society impossible (this is sub-Saharan Africa's problem), though IQ is probably a proxy in many ways.Svigorhttp://majorityrights.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-36531662314066517772009-09-01T15:27:17.742-07:002009-09-01T15:27:17.742-07:00@Lucius,
Do you mean Pauling's atheism? If yo...@Lucius,<br /><br />Do you mean Pauling's atheism? If you are equating atheism with nihilism, can you say what you mean by nihilism? Alternately, can you say a little more about Pauling's beliefs and why they in particular equated to nihilism?Anthonynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-48783739918273279162009-09-01T11:32:01.307-07:002009-09-01T11:32:01.307-07:00Forgive an off-topic comment, but I'm surprise...Forgive an off-topic comment, but I'm surprised you haven't yet posted about this study and the the headline at Science Daily, "No Such Thing as Ethnic Groups, Genetically Speaking, Researchers Say": <br /><br />http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/08/090831212951.htmAciliushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07785768453427754723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-2647482059096245252009-09-01T10:51:54.228-07:002009-09-01T10:51:54.228-07:00My neighbor is an Electrical Engineer Ph.D. and he...My neighbor is an Electrical Engineer Ph.D. and he has nine kids. <br /><br />Does that make him a eugenicist?read ithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00631238731651674916noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-29715064124760449312009-09-01T08:10:20.063-07:002009-09-01T08:10:20.063-07:00Just returned from Singapore...now has to be the m...<i>Just returned from Singapore...now has to be the most impressively run city in the world. A very smart place. There , smart people are encouraged to have children...the opposite to what is happening in western countries.</i><br /><br />I did notice an eyebrow raising 5 point increase in mean IQ for Singapore when comparing the statistics cited in 2002's <i>IQ and the Wealth of Nations</i> and 2006's <i>IQ and Global Inequality</i>, tying them with Hong Kong for tops in the world. It's certainly a strictly run place though.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-31924867213560298342009-09-01T07:35:56.465-07:002009-09-01T07:35:56.465-07:00"No, just re-dedicate Washington, DC to Booke..."No, just re-dedicate Washington, DC to Booker T. Washington."<br /><br />That Uncle Tom? Hell, no. <br /><br />Maybe "Harold Washington, D.C."?<br /><br />"Washington D.C. Carver?"Jim Bairdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01515091154037683897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-75743183971112563472009-09-01T06:54:35.555-07:002009-09-01T06:54:35.555-07:00WTF? It's astounding. That is not what eugenic...<i>WTF? It's astounding. That is not what eugenics means. Eugenicists understood that obvious (that intelligence distributions vary among racial groups), but eugenics per se has nothing to do with race, but selecting favorable characteristics for breeding.</i> <br /><br />Yes, but since W?W? is all that means anything to leftists, they rewrite history to line up the way they want. And the way they want most stories to line up is as morality plays: eugenics has "disparate impact" written all over it, which makes it racist, which is what eugenicists were all about, and they're goin' <b>down</b> baby!Svigorhttp://majorityrights.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-37622733040173038152009-09-01T06:21:30.310-07:002009-09-01T06:21:30.310-07:00For the record, our problem is not that stupid peo...For the record, our problem is not that stupid people are having too many babies, but rather that smart people are having too few babies.<br /><br />A civilization can accomodate legions of stupid people, but it will perish and disappear if there are too few smart people.<br /><br />Had e.g. Linus Pauling wanted the world to be a better place, then he shouldn't have <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linus_Pauling#Personal_life" rel="nofollow">embraced the nihilism</a> which is decimating the ranks of the world's elite thinkers.Lucius Vorenusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-64018699233376039022009-09-01T05:47:43.133-07:002009-09-01T05:47:43.133-07:00Steve, I've read you for years but this is the...Steve, I've read you for years but this is the first time I've commented - I recently found out that the architect of the Canadian single payer health care system was a prominent Eugenecist. "Tommy" Douglas, who was voted "Greatest Canadian" of all time in a CBC national contest in 2004, wrote his master's thesis, "The Problems of the Subnormal Family" on Eugenics. He advocated sterilizing mentally and physically disabled Canadians, and sending them to camps. Talk about death panels and national health care!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-59307213394202361282009-09-01T05:05:09.558-07:002009-09-01T05:05:09.558-07:00> "I cannot fathom how officials in Auburn...> "I cannot fathom how officials in Auburn would have the gall to name an area park after a white supremacist and think that would be readily accepted by residents," said Barry Broad, chairman of the Jewish Community Relations Council in Sacramento. <<br /><br />I wonder how many residents complained before Barry started laying on. Kevin MacDonald, call your office.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-82797355149692963572009-09-01T02:41:40.525-07:002009-09-01T02:41:40.525-07:00If we are going to airbrush all the persons connec...If we are going to airbrush all the persons connected with eugenics out of our history then we aren't going to have all that many people to talk about, at least from the first half of the 20th C. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics#Overview" rel="nofollow">Wikipedia</a>:<br /><br /><i>The modern field and term were first formulated by Sir Francis Galton in 1883, drawing on the recent work of his half-cousin Charles Darwin. At its peak of popularity eugenics was supported by prominent people, including Margaret Sanger, Marie Stopes, H. G. Wells, Woodrow Wilson, Prescott Bush, Theodore Roosevelt, Emile Zola, George Bernard Shaw, John Maynard Keynes, John Harvey Kellogg, Winston Churchill, Linus Pauling and Sidney Webb.</i><br /><br />Many eugenicists were leaders of progressive thought, including the poster-boy of all progressive intellectuals: Darwin. The theory of evolution by descent through modification of heritable traits is the basis of eugenics. Exactly how are we going to discuss evolutionary theory if Darwin's name is expunged from the historical record?<br /><br />Political correctness is not only worse than I imagined. It is getting worse than I can conceive.jack strocchihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17534084770633227131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-54980196086833242242009-08-31T22:24:11.908-07:002009-08-31T22:24:11.908-07:00My research indicates another American hero has fa...My research indicates another American hero has fallen. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola_Tesla#Personal_life" rel="nofollow"> Nikola Tesla </a> the genius who gave us alternating current and polyphase electrical distribution was also a proponent of eugenics! In a 1937 interview, he stated:<br />... man's new sense of pity began to interfere with the ruthless workings of nature. The only method compatible with our notions of civilization and the race is to prevent the breeding of the unfit by sterilization and the deliberate guidance of the mating instinct .... <br /><br />Our Ministry of History should scrap the name of Tesla Motors and rename its Model S, the 'Obamamobile'.Toadalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02710674512538267656noreply@blogger.com