tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post2074975514520269209..comments2024-03-27T18:24:19.683-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: Super Bowl QB IQs: 136 and 124Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger46125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-61485108820218222362012-01-22T06:52:35.537-08:002012-01-22T06:52:35.537-08:00Whoever said they dont see how IQ plays a big part...Whoever said they dont see how IQ plays a big part cant have any reasoning skills himself.<br /><br />What you have to understand about tests taken on paper though is they dont replicate decisions made in the real 4d world--yes time is a dimension--and some QBs may score low on paper but actually process information in regards to motion faster in 4 dimensions than someone on a 2d piece of paper.<br /><br />The huge problem with the NFL is they judge so many thing by raw speed and dont focus on how the PATH you take is more important. Some of the greatest RBs were not fast or explosive tackle breakers but could SEE, in an instant, the optimal path.<br />Spatial intelligence can trump all and when combined with adequate physical skill can render many of the Combine stats meaningless.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-72864943168070951462008-01-29T18:14:00.000-08:002008-01-29T18:14:00.000-08:00Archie Manning said, "from the time article someon...<I>Archie Manning said, "from the time article someone linked to: [i know - same old sh#t, but this is despicable]"</I><BR/><BR/>Yeah, that passage is unfortunate. However, given the overall very positive tone of the article, quoting Miraca Gross's studies showing the immense benefits of radical acceleration and ending with "We shouldn't be so wary of those who can move a lot faster than the rest of us," I have to regard the paragraph you quote as a pro forma nod to establishment foolishness intended as a fig leaf for work which proves the opposite, like Cavalli-Sforza claiming he doesn't believe in the biological reality of race.<BR/><BR/>While it is very sad that people are constrained to mouth such empty platitudes to avoid being Watsoned, at least we can take comfort in the fact that what they're really saying the rest of the time is spreading the truth.<BR/><BR/>The truth, of course, is that the reason Davidson's demographics make some people uncomfortable is that it does look exactly like a certain part of America -- it is an extremely faithful representation of the true membership of the intellectual elite, which happens to have very different racial composition than the country as a whole.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-90660291659714981832008-01-29T17:08:00.000-08:002008-01-29T17:08:00.000-08:00Of course, a lot of what NFL quarterbacks need are...<I>Of course, a lot of what NFL quarterbacks need are cognitive skills that aren't tested well by traditional IQ tests. For example, what the Air Force calls "situational awareness" is very important in a dogfight -- you can't concentrate too much on one thing or you'll get shot down by somebody you weren't paying attention to -- and in a football game. High IQ people, such as mathematicians, can sometimes have too much focus on what they are concentrating upon to function well in daily life.<BR/><BR/>-SS</I><BR/><BR/>In school, I tutored a race-car driver who had ADD. It was very difficult for him to focus on any one thing for a long time, but he was highly aware of every movement and change in his surroundings. I also tutored an autistic kid (Asperger's) who would get completely absorbed in the task at hand. After dealing with these two, I came to the same conclusion about situational awareness. <BR/><BR/>There's obviously a spectrum of ability in regards to focus vs. awareness. The two are rarely combined, but I think it is possible for a number of people to switch between one mode and the other. <BR/><BR/>Perhaps another example of selection for diversity?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-85751803503922610512008-01-29T15:09:00.000-08:002008-01-29T15:09:00.000-08:00Daj,You make a valid point about engineering progr...Daj,<BR/><BR/>You make a valid point about engineering programs -- if you don't have the intellectual chops, it's not likely you will make it through. And I agree with you that some folks on here will discount the intelligence of any black person, no matter how accomplished he or she is. This is illogical, of course, since despite the differences in average intelligence between groups, there are individuals of extremely high intelligence among blacks as well as other racial groups. Given Thomas's accomplishments, I would assume she is intelligent. I don't agree with you that graduating medical school is a sign of intelligence though.<BR/><BR/>Traditionally, medical schools have rarely failed students; the real filter is getting into medical school. Absent affirmative action, you would need to be intelligent to get into an American med school. When admissions standards have been lowered for affirmative action candidates though, even unqualified admits have subsequently graduated medical school. The most notorious example that comes to mind is that of <A HREF="http://www.adversity.net/FRAMES/Editorials/48_PatrickChavis.htm" REL="nofollow">Dr. Patrick Chavis</A>.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-9110720766080324522008-01-29T14:28:00.000-08:002008-01-29T14:28:00.000-08:00"Such students often have lower scholastic credent..."Such students often have lower scholastic credentials (SAT scores, MCAT scores, GPAs, etc) than their white and Asian counterparts."<BR/><BR/>Yes, and to toss in the 900 lb. Gorilla, white students at these universities are given affirmative action to up their numbers in relation to Asians.Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-47540716615772997592008-01-29T10:04:00.000-08:002008-01-29T10:04:00.000-08:00I sure am posting a lot on this specific subject. ...I sure am posting a lot on this specific subject. Anyway, in all fairness, I try to understand the position of my interlocutor when engaging in argument on a particular matter. <BR/><BR/>Affirmative Action programs designed to benefit non-Asian minorities are prevalent in prestigious U.S. colleges. Such students often have lower scholastic credentials (SAT scores, MCAT scores, GPAs, etc) than their white and Asian counterparts. These are well documented facts. Therefore, Mr. Lucius Vorenus seems to hold the academic accomplishments of educated blacks like Debi Thomas with doubt, suspicion, and incredulity. The position is not entirely unreasonable.<BR/><BR/>However, I believe that undeserving students tend to let their lack of qualification known by struggling in their coursework, quitting or failing out of school, or taking up softer, more subjective, and less demanding majors. Engineering, at any school, is not one of these soft courses of study. In this particular major, one has to utilize algebra, calculus, and other higher modes of reasoning to solve difficult problems regarding thermodynamics, fluid dynamics, heat and mass transfer, electromagnetism, and statics. One either knows how to calculate the answers or one does not. The students who know will pass and graduate. Those who do not know will fail and change majors. There is virtually no gray area. <BR/><BR/>The same can probably be said about medical school. Human anatomy, biochemistry, neurology, and genetics are also Know-or-Don’t-Know/Can-or-Can’t disciplines. Most assuredly, passing a standardized licensing examination is completely objective and depends entirely on the knowledge and intelligence of the testee. I’d suspect that surgical residencies are of high rigor and scrutiny. <BR/><BR/>In light of the aforementioned, Debi Thomas appears to have merited her achievements. She has had academic opportunity after opportunity to fall on her face (no skating pun intended) and yet continued to succeed. That Ms. Thomas passed muster in very rigorous programs like engineering and medicine at very elite schools like Stanford and Northwestern is impressive and attests to her high intelligence. I contend that these feats, made over the course of years, carry much more weight in gauging her intelligence than hearing her speak, over the course of minutes or seconds, in a sports interview.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-72003388750238448122008-01-29T07:48:00.000-08:002008-01-29T07:48:00.000-08:00from the time article someone linked to:[i know - ...from the time article someone linked to:<BR/><BR/>[i know - same old sh#t, but this is despicable]<BR/><BR/>But such an uncomplicated view of intelligence--one that esteems IQ scores and raw mental power--has had at least one awkward consequence for the Davidson Academy: it doesn't mirror America. Twenty-six of the 45 students are boys; only two are black. (A total of 16 are minorities.) The school is unlikely ever to represent girls and African Americans proportionately because of a reality about IQ tests: more boys score at the high end of the IQ scale (and, it should be said, more score at the low end; girls' IQ variance is smaller). And for reasons that no one understands, African Americans' IQ scores have tended to cluster about a standard deviation below the average--evidence for some that the tests themselves are biased.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-27551116075094403892008-01-28T20:04:00.000-08:002008-01-28T20:04:00.000-08:00For what it's worth, Debi Thomas was hardly famous...For what it's worth, Debi Thomas was hardly famous when she entered Stanford. She only earned her first national and world title while a freshman at Stanford (1986). She did take a break from her studies to train for the Olympics. There is an article in Stanford Magazine in which she talks about her journey to becoming a doctor and she cites her "rotten" study skills as hindering her. Though she probably won't be one of the top doctors in the nation, she still is a doctor and rightfully earned the qualification. As far as King/Drew is concerned, Thomas is one of the outspoken critics that is trying to bring attention to the ailing conditions at Drew/King. <BR/><BR/>I would not say Katarina Witt is necessarily smarter than Debi Thomas based upon a few interviews done when they were teenagers. Witt was pretty charismatic but that does not equate to being more intelligent. Witt has had a lucrative skating career for the last twenty years but I think Witt's opportunities were quite limited due to her upbringing in a restrictive East German Sports System.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-55795287464818774292008-01-28T19:43:00.000-08:002008-01-28T19:43:00.000-08:00black sea said, "I believe that in one of your pos...<I>black sea said, "I believe that in one of your posts, Steve, you theorized that an effective leader shouldn't - in terms of intelligence - be to far out ahead of those he leads. If the gap is too great, maybe more than 20 points, communication, loyalty, and a sense of identification break down."</I><BR/><BR/>Yes, that's certainly true. We've also known it was true for about 80% of the entire time there have been IQ tests (90% if you start counting with Terman rather than Binet). As <A HREF="http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1653653-2,00.html" REL="nofollow">Time magazine recently put it</A>, "As early as 1926, Columbia education professor Leta Hollingworth noted that kids who score between 125 and 155 on IQ tests have the "socially optimal" level of intelligence; those with IQs over 160 are often socially isolated because they are so different from peers--more mini-adults than kids."<BR/><BR/>To use Aldous Huxley's terminology, Betas make much better leaders than Alphas do, because the Gammas who make up the bulk of the population can't understand what the Alphas are saying. Alphas can only lead effectively by being behind-the-scenes advisers to charismatic Betas. As readers of Steve's work should know, we already live in Brave New World -- the <B><I>categories</I></B> are an incontrovertible, biological fact of life, even though our society is radically different from the one the book described.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-86078049111818798182008-01-28T18:36:00.000-08:002008-01-28T18:36:00.000-08:00I am too young to remember Thomas firsthand (the f...I am too young to remember Thomas firsthand (the first figure skating champion I remember was Yamaguchi in 1992), and I can't get the video Vorenus linked to to work (was there even a video there?), but through the miracle of Youtube I found an old profile of her from 1988:<BR/><BR/>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZK9gClMbi20<BR/><BR/> Not knowing Thomas, but having no reason to believe Vorenus a dishonest man, I was assuming Thomas would have either a thick accent or the typical inarticulateness under pressure of an unsophisticated twenty-year-old. Neither would be a true sign of low intelligence, but either could be mistaken for such. To my great surprise, she seemed more poised and articulate than most people, and certainly 99% of athletes. I will be less inclined to trust L.V.'s opinions in the future. <BR/><BR/> Here is a more recent print interview with her that theoretically could have been edited to make her look better, but I doubt it:<BR/><BR/>http://espn.go.com/skating/news/2000/0209/345701.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-13450513861190524442008-01-28T16:00:00.000-08:002008-01-28T16:00:00.000-08:00"BTW, if anyone is interested, there are a number ...<I>"BTW, if anyone is interested, there are a number of new articles out about some guy who appears to have that "Gift" which can't be measured at the combines:<BR/><BR/>Once a role player, Patriots' Wes Welker now a budding star"</I><BR/><BR/>Welker's "gift" is that opposing defenses have to focus on stopping his all-world teammate Randy Moss, leaving Welker open much of the time. Welker is a worker, and he's competent, but any halfway decent receiver could put up Welker's numbers in that offense.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-6967288441542524912008-01-28T15:53:00.000-08:002008-01-28T15:53:00.000-08:00Re the commenter who wondered about Dan Marino's p...Re the commenter who wondered about Dan Marino's passing completion stats compared to today's stars ... it's largely a function of the rule changes regarding defensive pass interference and roughing the quarterback. QBs like Marino and Bradshaw and Stabler played under much tougher conditions for passers than todays QBs do. No knock on today's athletes, but the rules of the game have changed -- sort of like the SAT.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-49796255122605306382008-01-28T12:43:00.000-08:002008-01-28T12:43:00.000-08:00Lucius Vorenus,Let me get see if I follow. A blac...Lucius Vorenus,<BR/><BR/>Let me get see if I follow. A black woman undergoes thoroughly regimented training and becomes a successful international figure skating champion. She then graduates with an engineering degree from Stanford. If that was not enough, the lady graduates from an elite medical school and becomes a licensed surgeon. In spite of all of these laudable accomplishments that indicate her high intelligence and considerable discipline, you are still relentlessly determined to discredit and disqualify her ability and achievements. Ironically, you are eager to ascribe higher intelligence to a white East German woman who has failed to exhibit anything close to the post-skating intellectual feats of Thomas (even Britney Spears, for crying out loud, has not yet appeared fully nude in Playboy). <BR/><BR/>So if a black becomes a parasitic drug-dealing, welfare-receiving criminal, he or she must be viewed in a negative light. Likewise, if a black becomes a beloved skating champion and medical doctor, he or she must be viewed in a negative light. Those blacks sure can't do anything right.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-16420651224275600302008-01-28T11:53:00.000-08:002008-01-28T11:53:00.000-08:00daj: However, employing the skating and profession...<B>daj:</B> <I>However, employing the skating and professional career of Debi Thomas as an example of lower intelligence compared to other related examples is disingenuous and betrays one’s lack of objectivity (and maybe animus towards the black race)...</I><BR/><BR/>I'd tell you to go to Hades, but I'm sure that Steve Sailer would censor me if I did.<BR/><BR/>Look, I'm the one who watched Bud Greenspan interview these two girls.<BR/><BR/>But here's a thought: Why don't YOU sit down and watch the piece, and see what conclusions YOU come to:<BR/><BR/><B>BUD GREENSPAN'S FAVORITE STORIES OF WINTER OLYMPIC GLORY</B><BR/><A HREF="http://www.sho.com/site/schedules/product_page.do?seriesid=0&episodeid=115075" REL="nofollow">http://www.sho.com/site/schedules/product_page.do?seriesid=0&episodeid=115075</A><BR/><BR/>You tell me which girl sounds thoughtful and insightful and poised when speaking in something other than her native tongue, and which girl sounds like a moron when speaking in her own native tongue.<BR/><BR/>And no, being [apparently] the only person on this thread who has actually heard Debi Thomas speak, under no circumstances whatsoever would I [voluntarily] consent to being one of her orthopedics patients.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-54990378448761290282008-01-28T11:14:00.000-08:002008-01-28T11:14:00.000-08:00"If you translate Debi Thomas' resume:"My good fri..."If you translate Debi Thomas' resume:"<BR/><BR/>My good friend:<BR/><BR/>If Debbie Thomas' skin color precludes her from being a competent surgeon, your translation skills would get you thrown out of the U.N. on your ear!<BR/><BR/>Debbie Thomas had just turned 21 years old when competing in the olympics, she was a Stanford student in Engineering (minor; pre-med) a five-year program while putting in the requisite SIX HOURS A DAY of practice to compete at this level. <BR/><BR/>I do not see anything there about failing a test, only that she took a year off to study which is quite commonplace with these exams, and even among 18 year-old Europeans studying for the Bac.<BR/><BR/>You make the rather reaching assumption that Thomas achieved her medical degree six years after her BS because she is dull, rather than because she took some time off (she is, after all an INTERNATIONAL CELEBRITY!) <BR/><BR/>You then state she took 8-9 years to complete her residency when it should have been six. Yes 6 to complete ONE residency. Thomas has TWO residencies, one at U. of Arkansas,(I guess that is a black-run University, just like Stanford and Northwestern?) and one at King-Drew.<BR/><BR/>Then you top off this incompetent exercise in reading comprehension by bringing up the PHARMACY errors in the hospital in which she works a s SURGEON. <BR/><BR/>Now, I don't claim to be a genius, but I would suggest that a Stanford student is among the top 20% in intelligence of all college students, an engineering major is among the top 20% in intelligence of all Stanford students, a medical student is among the top 20% in intelligence of all Stanford engineering students, one who passes the bar and completes residency is among the top 205 of all medical students, and one who completes the additional surgical requirements is among the top 20% in intelligence of all doctors.<BR/><BR/>Unlike Mrs. Thomas, math was never my best subject, but I can calculate her IQ to be, approximately...very high!Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-54938432408834010082008-01-28T10:44:00.000-08:002008-01-28T10:44:00.000-08:00To belabor the Thomas/Witt discussion, I am provid...To belabor the Thomas/Witt discussion, I am providing a link with very short interviews of the two skating champions, beginning 6 minutes and 45 seconds into the recording. Can you really detect a sharp difference in their relative intelligences just by hearing them speak, unless you are engaging in an ulterior fishing expedition? <BR/><BR/>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_qzFoAZBOY&feature=related<BR/><BR/>Here is another clip of Thomas and her speech, though it is more staged. Notice that she has the letters "M" and "D" following her name. On the other hand, while not seen in the links, the letters "P," "L," "A," "Y," "M," "A," "T," and "E" probably are apt to follow Katarina's name. <BR/><BR/>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lwJQvpHGuYAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-72140464144255025352008-01-28T08:35:00.000-08:002008-01-28T08:35:00.000-08:00BTW, if anyone is interested, there are a number o...BTW, if anyone is interested, there are a number of new articles out about some guy who appears to have that "Gift" which can't be measured at the combines:<BR/><BR/><B>Once a role player, Patriots' Wes Welker now a budding star</B><BR/><A HREF="http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/print?id=3214646&type=story" REL="nofollow">sports.espn.go.com</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-76468042515280176412008-01-28T08:30:00.000-08:002008-01-28T08:30:00.000-08:00astorian: As an Austinite, I like Vince, and reall...<B>astorian:</B> <I>As an Austinite, I like Vince, and really hope he succeeds. But his inability or unwillingness to learn from a top coordinator like Norm Chow is a bad sign. Jeff Fisher has to make sure Vince understands that the coaches are the bosses, and that Vince will not be allowed to chase off any more coordinators.<BR/><BR/>Vince is such a tremendous talent that he could easily become a perennial coach-killer is he isn't brought into line.</I><BR/><BR/>But, at the end of the day, you have to consider the possibility that he CAN'T be brought into line - that the Wonderlic score of 6 was a fairly accurate assessment of his intellectual acumen.<BR/><BR/>I.e. when the situation is hopeless, then you've got to have the intellectual fortitude to admit to yourself that the situation is hopeless.<BR/><BR/>Or else be prepared to suffer the consequences of not having that intellectual fortitude.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-82903183342577612532008-01-28T08:25:00.000-08:002008-01-28T08:25:00.000-08:00Steve Sailer: Maybe she didn't immediately graduat...<B>Steve Sailer:</B> <I>Maybe she didn't immediately graduate from med school because she was busy being a famous, highly-paid skater?</I><BR/><BR/>Or maybe the only reason she got into any of these programs [to include Stanford U undergrad in the first place] was because she was a famous celebrity [think Brooke Shields at Princeton, or Chelsea Clinton at Oxford].<BR/><BR/>Look, for all I know, Bud Greenspan is a closet Nazi, and he intentionally edited the footage to make the negress look like a moron and the aryan to look like a genius.<BR/><BR/>I don't know - all I know is what I saw and what I heard, and Katarina Witt speaks better English than Debi Thomas.<BR/><BR/>And no - I would NOT want to be an orthopedic patient of Debi Thomas, MD.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-45573121138549099012008-01-28T08:18:00.000-08:002008-01-28T08:18:00.000-08:00On Lucius Vorenus,I like to commend the posters wh...On Lucius Vorenus,<BR/><BR/>I like to commend the posters who are attempting to defend Debi Thomas. Yes. One can proffer many negative facts about the black race in general and numerous black celebrities, especially pertaining to the subject of intelligence. However, employing the skating and professional career of Debi Thomas as an example of lower intelligence compared to other related examples is disingenuous and betrays one’s lack of objectivity (and maybe animus towards the black race). If one wants to cite an example of a possibly low-IQ female figure skater, the white and blonde Tonya Harding definitely comes to the fore. Who appears to be a better candidate for displaying low IQ: the figure skater with a medical degree (Thomas) or the one with a GED (Harding), the figure skater with an apparently spotless legal record (Thomas) or the one with a rap sheet (Harding), the figure skater who seems to live a decent life (Thomas) or the one who participated in Internet porn (Harding)? Plus, when Katarina Witt was posing nude for Playboy, Thomas was working on her surgical residency. Yes, indeed! Debi undeniably looks like a good candidate of a low-IQ athlete vis-à-vis Tonya and Katarina. <BR/><BR/>By the way, to show that I have no ill-will towards Tonya, I will point out that Ms. Harding did admirably perform mouth-to-mouth resuscitation in order to help revive an 81-year old woman during the mid-1990s.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-34172954075763780842008-01-28T02:04:00.000-08:002008-01-28T02:04:00.000-08:00Maybe she didn't immediately graduate from med sch...Maybe she didn't immediately graduate from med school because she was busy being a famous, highly-paid skater?Steve Sailerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11920109042402850214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-56997344058347434892008-01-28T01:47:00.000-08:002008-01-28T01:47:00.000-08:00If you translate Debi Thomas' resume: After her f...If you translate Debi Thomas' resume: <BR/><BR/><I> After her figure skating career, Thomas went back to school to become an orthopedic surgeon. She graduated from Stanford University in 1991 with a degree in engineering and from the Northwestern University Feinberg School of Medicine in 1997. Thomas followed this with a surgical residency at the University of Arkansas Medical Sciences Hospital and an orthopedic surgery residency at the Martin Luther King Jr./Charles Drew University Medical Center in South Central Los Angeles.<BR/>In June 2005, Debi graduated from the Orthopaedic Residency Program at Charles R. Drew University in Los Angeles. She spent the next year preparing for Step I of the American Board of Orthopaedic Surgeons' exam and working at King-Drew Medical Center as a junior attending physician specialist. In July 2006, she began a one-year fellowship at the Dorr Arthritis Institute at Centinela Hospital in Inglewood, California. </I><BR/><BR/>Translation: she failed Step 1 at least once. Moreover, she spent 6 years in med school (should be 4) and 8-9 years as a resident (should be 6 at most). <BR/><BR/>Note also that her residencies were at the infamous King-Drew, which was managed by blacks since its inception: <BR/><BR/>http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-031704kingdrew,0,4654336,full.story<BR/><BR/><I><BR/><BR/>Pharmacy errors that harm and even kill patients are not unusual in U.S. hospitals. At least 7,000 deaths are believed to occur each year from prescription mistakes, according to a 1999 report by the National Institute of Medicine.<BR/><BR/>But the scope and frequency of King/Drew's errors astonished experts consulted by The Times.<BR/><BR/>Wachter, who has written a book on medical errors, compared efforts to prevent mistakes to pieces of Swiss cheese.<BR/><BR/>When checks and balances are not in place, it's as if holes in the cheese align and problems slip through.<BR/><BR/>"Here you have slices of Swiss cheese where there are more holes than cheese," he said, referring to King/Drew.<BR/></I>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-61671889895113448072008-01-27T20:45:00.000-08:002008-01-27T20:45:00.000-08:00"I can't tell whether you're being sarcastic/facet..."I can't tell whether you're being sarcastic/facetious."<BR/><BR/>Well there's a good reason for that my friend: I can't really tell either! <BR/><BR/>You see, I just wish someone had told when I was 17 which line us black folk had to stand on to get an Engineering degree from Stanford, a Medical Degree from Northwestern and a passing bar exam score.<BR/><BR/>I spent a few months looking for it and apparently I went to the wrong line because I had to struggle for 5 years to get my liberal arts degree.<BR/><BR/>In any event, 17 year old American athletes don't tend to speak English like Queen Elizabeth....something to do with the age or the Bangers and Mash, I'm not sure which, If you would say that Debbie Thomas is less articulate than say, Tonya Harding, or even Brittney Spears or Paris Hilton, I'd have to disagree. <BR/><BR/>"But I'm telling you, Katarina Witt spoke better English than Debi Thomas, and if DT is any indication of what it takes to get a degree from Stanford, then, well, what's the point of even paying the tuition?"<BR/><BR/>Well, DT is also an indication of licenced surgeons, so what's the point of going to the hospital?<BR/><BR/>And as you and anonymous would not like to be one of Mrs. Thoma's surgery patients, maybe you'd prefer to be one of Miss Witt's?<BR/><BR/>By the way, the whole marrying up/down thing is somewhat silly in my opinion. The only way this can be accomplished is in marrying a being with a different chromsome count...which makes childrearing difficult. If the world's most sought-after supermodel marries a 60 year old plumber, I don't necessarily assume he's getting the better end of the deal. <BR/><BR/>PS: If you cannot identify this:<BR/><BR/>http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.theothersideofkim.com/images/uploads/2005files/katerina_witt101.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.theothersideofkim.com/index.php/beauties/8130/&h=514&w=350&sz=48&hl=en&start=5&um=1&tbnid=YAPcAuzROAZp1M:&tbnh=131&tbnw=89&prev=/images%3Fq%3DKaterina%2BWitt%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dsafari%26rls%3Den%26sa%3DN<BR/><BR/>As a lesbian, you may be reading the wrong blog.Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-91219486032272862162008-01-27T20:28:00.000-08:002008-01-27T20:28:00.000-08:00Witt's problem is that like many high-status women...<I>Witt's problem is that like many high-status women there are just not that many straight and decent men who are higher status. I know a number of beautiful and accomplished women who complain that that their looks plus status automatically rule out most guys (not enough accomplishment)</I><BR/><BR/>What about all the nerdy but successful men working in IT? Or is their nerdiness a deal-breaker?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-43475643306873089782008-01-27T20:27:00.000-08:002008-01-27T20:27:00.000-08:00One point about Vince Young's poor showing on the ...One point about Vince Young's poor showing on the Wunderlic Test: Vince didn't have serious, professional representation. His "agent" was his uncle, assisted by a lawyer who was a family friend.<BR/><BR/>Now, Vince did a lot of dumb things between the Rose Bowl and Draft Day, things he never would have done if he'd hired a serious, reputable professional sports agent. It appears Vince had no idea that an intelligence test was coming! A Leigh Steinberg or a Tom Condon would have told him exactly what to expect, exactly how to prepare. He may or may not have scored high on it, but he wouldn't have scored a 6 because he'd had to take the test on the spur of the moment.<BR/><BR/>Will Vince Young be a successful QB in the NFL? My track record in predicting success for quarterbacks is so horrible (hint: I though Todd Blackledge was the best QB in the class of 1983, and was sure Eric Zeier was the next Joe Montana!), I won't bother to make a prediction. But I don't think lack of intelligence is his problem. IF he fails, it will be due to a mental laziness that awesome physical gifts can bring.<BR/><BR/>That is, he has to put in the hard work of studying film and learning to read defenses, instead of just looking around once, thinking "I don't see a wide open receiver, I guess I'll just take off running."<BR/><BR/>As an Austinite, I like Vince, and really hope he succeeds. But his inability or unwillingness to learn from a top coordinator like Norm Chow is a bad sign. Jeff Fisher has to make sure Vince understands that the coaches are the bosses, and that Vince will not be allowed to chase off any more coordinators.<BR/><BR/>Vince is such a tremendous talent that he could easily become a perennial coach-killer is he isn't brought into line.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com