tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post2220492186540907768..comments2024-03-28T16:22:14.888-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: Freakonomics: The MovieUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-73093408225517259572010-10-29T17:48:31.554-07:002010-10-29T17:48:31.554-07:00Cont.
Do you suggest that blacks in America woul...Cont.<br /><br /><br /><i>Do you suggest that blacks in America would form some kind of racial military apparatus to carve out their own nation, or whatever nightmare scenario you have conjured up?</i><br /><br /><br />Not at all, but I would suggest they can make themselves unpleasant if combined with others; blacks in America are, as are whites, a declining group, yet in Zimbabwe those blacks seem capable of taking over farm estates no matter how bravely individuals resist: I could easily imagine future hispanics, under the colour of <i>Reconquista</i> quite peacefully swarming Arizonian farms and declaring --- with the implied sanction of federal and state governments controlled by their votes --- "<b>This land is Our Land</b>", thirty years hence. It's probably best to not have too many aggrieved groups in the mix... Frankly, if I were a black and read Auster's and Mangan's, I would come away with the feeling '<i>these people are not my friends</i>...<br /><br /><br /><i>You are concerned about competition between blacks and whites for the same jobs (despite not actually caring about either group, or any individuals that comprise those groups apparently).</i><br /><br /><br />There are graduations of caring... I care more for my extended family than I do for other: doesn't mean I have to love each and every one of them.<br /><br /><br /><i>Why would one have to go through some underhanded bribery? Certainly there are other options you could think of that are more definitively capable of preventing any competition for jobs at all?</i><br /><br /><br />Indeed there are. Off the bat:<br /><br /><br />i/ You can hope the next Republican administration may end legal and illegal immigration, and send agents out to deport all the illegals. Good luck with that.<br /><br />ii/ Automation of goods and delivery may be reversed, creating millions of jobs for hand-delivery of parcels across the nation.<br /><br />iii/ Abolish welfare and the minimum wage, freeing businesses to give honest, pride-filled, gainful employment to all the poor both white and black at $10 a day.<br /><br />Provided they are willing to forgo showers and live 12 to a room.Claverhousehttp://www.serene-falcon.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-61791293284641360162010-10-29T17:46:30.259-07:002010-10-29T17:46:30.259-07:00A little late, but...
K(yle) said a lot of things...A little late, but...<br /><br />K(yle) said a lot of things...:<br /><br /><br />[xxx]<br /><br /><br />Rather obviously, royalism is not going to come back soon; however one does not abandon say, a religion, because one accepts the temporal promises may be delayed, or a wife because she is barren: and in any case royalism will never be applicable to the USA since it is founded upon opposite principles --- which is your bad luck, not mine.<br /><br /><i>Given the whole non-applicable nature of your current philosophy, and only focusing on what can work; essentially the sky is the limit in terms of your options.</i><br /><br /><br />Not really, you are confused as to the difference between <i>rejected</i> and <i>workable</i>; if for 500 years people use a bridge to cross a river, then a bunch of religious lunatics declare bridges unholy and thenceforth everyone is mandated to swim across carrying baggage upon their heads, both systems are still workable, but the previous one has been rejected by the populace, under instruction from the wise.<br /><br />Nonetheless, whatever it's merits or otherwise, monarchism is not bound to any economic theory or political process: it merely concentrates on finding one solution to a problem whetherever that solution arrives from, and both placating the masses and not stirring them up for any ideology...<br /><br /><br /><i>Do you suggest that blacks in America would form some kind of racial military apparatus to carve out their own nation, or whatever nightmare scenario you have conjured up?</i><br /><br /><br />Not at all, but I would suggest they can make themselves unpleasant if combined with others; blacks in America are, as are whites, a declining group, yet in Zimbabwe those blacks seem capable of taking over farm estates no matter how bravely individuals resist: I could easily imagine future hispanics, under the colour of <i>Reconquista</i> quite peacefully swarming Arizonian farms and declaring --- with the implied sanction of federal and state governments controlled by their votes --- "<b>This land is Our Land</b>", thirty years hence. It's probably best to not have too many aggrieved groups in the mix... Frankly, if I were a black and read Auster's and Mangan's, I would come away with the feeling '<i>these people are not my friends</i>...<br /><br /><br /><i>You are concerned about competition between blacks and whites for the same jobs (despite not actually caring about either group, or any individuals that comprise those groups apparently).</i><br /><br /><br />There are graduations of caring... I care more for my extended family than I do for other: doesn't mean I have to love each and every one of them.<br /><br /><br /><i>Why would one have to go through some underhanded bribery? Certainly there are other options you could think of that are more definitively capable of preventing any competition for jobs at all?</i><br /><br /><br />Indeed there are. Off the bat:<br /><br /><br />i/ You can hope the next Republican administration may end legal and illegal immigration, and send agents out to deport all the illegals. Good luck with that.<br /><br />ii/ Automation of goods and delivery may be reversed, creating millions of jobs for hand-delivery of parcels across the nation.<br /><br />iii/ Abolish welfare and the minimum wage, freeing businesses to give honest, pride-filled, gainful employment to all the poor both white and black at $10 a day.<br /><br />Provided they are willing to forgo showers and live 12 to a room.Claverhousehttp://www.serene-falcon.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-7324533052046018112010-10-28T18:09:50.504-07:002010-10-28T18:09:50.504-07:00I have an idea for this movie.
The character play...I have an idea for this movie.<br /><br />The character playing Malcolm G should begin with short, flat hair. Then - as he learns of strange things like the racism of car dealers - his hair should become a little higher. It should get higher with each learning experience, until, at last, at the end of the movie, it is as tall as the rest of his body and he looks as if he has stuck an appendage into an electric socket.<br /><br />After the end titles, we should have the following "gag tag": G reacts with a look of dismay when he sees someone who is offscreen at first; the dismay is so intense his hair falls like a soufflé. Then CUT to a CLOSE-UP of our favorite blogger...who says, sardonically: "Shoulda blinked." I know it's lame, but we're talking about "Freakonomics: The Movie" here, guys.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-59593210384966564762010-10-27T18:05:47.139-07:002010-10-27T18:05:47.139-07:00Claverhouse, you still miss the point. You claim ...Claverhouse, you still miss the point. You claim yourself a Royalist, which means your political philosophy is already essentially in fantasy land in terms of being applicable any time in the near future(which, by all means, is fine.) <br /><br />You then state that you want to focus on what does work, not what ought to work. Given the whole non-applicable nature of your current philosophy, and only focusing on what can work; essentially the sky is the limit in terms of your options.<br /><br />You then go on to say that welfare, as a bribe to blacks in America, 'works'. Works to do what exactly? Is the black population pacified in some way? Do you suggest that blacks in America would form some kind of racial military apparatus to carve out their own nation, or whatever nightmare scenario you have conjured up? <br /><br />Now, you are a reactionary Royalist, who only focuses on definitively practical solutions that will work. You are concerned about competition between blacks and whites for the same jobs (despite not actually caring about either group, or any individuals that comprise those groups apparently). Why would one have to go through some underhanded bribery? Certainly there are other options you could think of that are more definitively capable of preventing any competition for jobs at all? <br /><br />Your 'what works' scenario is just supposed to be something provactive, but it's actually just stupid given your broader philosophy.K(yle)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-40400444455664119792010-10-27T11:49:20.493-07:002010-10-27T11:49:20.493-07:00Svigor said:
Maybe, but you're going to have...Svigor said:<br /><br /><br /><i>Maybe, but you're going to have to explain how blacks are going to take anything from whites if the latter are unwilling to let it happen (otherwise "take" becomes semantics).</i><br /><br /><br />Actually, there <i>have</i> been a few black riots in America during the 20th century; and blacks now seem more pissed off than then thanks to state encouragement of their alleged grievances ( anti-racism, affirmative action etc. ) --- I should imagine that they are well capable of <i>Action Directe</i> if motivated sufficiently.<br /><br />More likely they would make common cause with other groups to either gain through violence, or select a confisticatory regime that takes through state force.<br /><br />There are more than enough anti-white whites --- some quite powerful --- to make common cause with either outcome, and a larger body of whites who are entirely apathetic ( since they have been taught racism is a sin ), so it's not as if it's going to be all whites against all other colours.<br /><br />[ Which is one reason the idea of any mostly white ethnostates being permitted following the break-up is idle: few of the white masses are that interested in moving a 1000 miles just to live apart. ]<br /><br /><br />More seriously, I should suggest that one has to choose allies for future conflict, whatever the temptation to fight and die alone against overwhelming odds. Since immigration is the main threat to America at present, it might be wiser to woo blacks against hispanics partly by pointing out --- as Steve has mentioned sometimes --- that immigration hurts them still more than the rest. ( Because of that poverty thang. )Claverhousehttp://www.serene-falcon.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-86273781293670554162010-10-27T11:23:06.541-07:002010-10-27T11:23:06.541-07:00"Not Worth The Bones of One Pomeranian Grenad...<b>"Not Worth The Bones of One Pomeranian Grenadier</b><br /><br /><br />Svigor said:<br /><br /><i>Maybe, but who cares what Africans do, or don't do ? Not I.<br /><br /><b>Nonsense. You:</b><br /><br />blacks in America --- who let's face it, haven't really had a glorious life-experience since being brought over on ships not chartered by themselves<br /><br />It would have been better for whites ( and the USA generally ) if they had left them there.<br /><br /><b>Er, moving the goal posts, much?</b></i><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Not at all. You really don't understand the concept of <b>not caring about people</b> do you ?<br /><br />Apart from your error of conflating Africans with African Americans...<br /><br />It is entirely compatible to acknowledge that slavery was bad both for the slaves and the owners, and that the legacy of slavery hasn't been optimal for Americans black or white; to not let it worry one much; and to be not at all concerned what Africans in Africa --- who are distinct from American blacks, yet whom, had the latters ancestors not been taken from there would be in Africa still, not malcontent in America --- did to each other and are now doing to each other.<br /><br />Particularly in the Congo...<br /><br /><br />It was not only gain that drove empire, not even inter-country competition, but also the impertinent christian ( and muslim ) destiny that true believers should not only convert the heathen, but also <i>really, really care</i> about people who were in no way their brothers.<br /><br />Sublimated to 'Democracy' this later drove presidents such as Shrub to <i>care</i> about benighted foreigners enough to bring war to their lands in order to change them for the better.<br /><br />On contemplating the foreign policy of the old thugs who have been president in my lifetime, another saying of Otto comes to mind: when asked on occasion what he thought the Court of Vienna would do next ? he answered:<br /><br />"<i>What's the silliest thing you can think of ?</i>"<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />The world needs less caring.Claverhousehttp://www.serene-falcon.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-71264894253341171522010-10-27T10:48:16.360-07:002010-10-27T10:48:16.360-07:00"Maybe, but you're going to have to expla..."Maybe, but you're going to have to explain how blacks are going to take anything from whites if the latter are unwilling to let it happen..."<br /><br />Eureka, Svigor, you've got it!<br /><br />That's precicely why you make your home in Charleston (1/3 black). So what are you always whining about.Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-50613848737322049082010-10-27T08:16:02.337-07:002010-10-27T08:16:02.337-07:00To nullify any threat from a particular large grou...<i>To nullify any threat from a particular large group of people, it might be best to gladly give them a little, rather than have them later take the lot.</i><br /><br />Maybe, but you're going to have to explain how blacks are going to take anything from whites if the latter are unwilling to let it happen (otherwise "take" becomes semantics).Svigorhttp://majorityrights.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-76723998773791627742010-10-27T08:13:00.537-07:002010-10-27T08:13:00.537-07:00Maybe, but who cares what Africans do, or don'...<i>Maybe, but who cares what Africans do, or don't do ? Not I.</i><br /><br />Nonsense. You:<br /><br /><i>blacks in America --- who let's face it, haven't really had a glorious life-experience since being brought over on ships not chartered by themselves</i><br /><br /><i>It would have been better for whites ( and the USA generally ) if they had left them there.</i><br /><br />Er, moving the goal posts, much?Svigorhttp://majorityrights.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-54322388415939847052010-10-27T06:56:34.227-07:002010-10-27T06:56:34.227-07:00On the other hand, "Blink" was a great D...On the other hand, "Blink" was a great Doctor Who episode.Seamushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10065227784774273923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-61753465673476767952010-10-27T00:31:19.931-07:002010-10-27T00:31:19.931-07:00The Cari Clark article you cited in your 2006 post...The Cari Clark article you cited in your 2006 post misrepresented the common surnames Mormons are typically saddled with. A large plurality of Utahns are of English descent, but there are also a lot of Scandinavians, too, and Scandinavian surnames aren't as diverse as English ones. There may be nearly as many (or more) Utahns named Anderson, Christensen, Hansen, Peterson, or even Rasmussen as there are named Smith, Jones or Young.<br /><br />Orrin Hatch's name comes from Orrin Porter Rockwell, who was Brigham Young's bodyguard.<br /><br />And speaking of people descended from famous Mormons, the US Senate will soon be getting its fourth member who is a great-great grandson of Mormon pioneer John D Lee, who is famous for supposedly instigating the Mountain Meadows Massacre. Mike Lee, the son of the late Reagan solicitor general Rex Lee, will almost surely be Utah's next senator. He will join his cousins Tom Udall (D-NM; the son of Stewart Udall) and Mark Udall (D-CO; the son of Morris Udall). Another Lee descendant, Gordon Smith (R-OR), lost his re-election bid a few years ago.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-50785358027717917272010-10-26T23:01:16.404-07:002010-10-26T23:01:16.404-07:00Claverhouse: "...The only two alternatives ar...Claverhouse: "...The only two alternatives are ..."<br />Alternatives are, by definition, only two. May I suggest "options"?doda piliinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-57736377836793688442010-10-26T19:38:46.489-07:002010-10-26T19:38:46.489-07:00Matt,
The Baby Name Voyager lady insists that &qu...Matt,<br /><br />The Baby Name Voyager lady insists that "La-a" is an urban legend.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-49182071644017651462010-10-26T19:36:09.337-07:002010-10-26T19:36:09.337-07:00Svigor said:
Compared to the glorious life-experi...Svigor said:<br /><br /><i>Compared to the glorious life-experiences of their fortunate brethren left behind in Africa, of course.</i><br /><br /><br />Maybe, but who cares what Africans do, or don't do ? Not I. Slavery in any culture was never as good to the enslaved as the various defenders of each culture pretend. --- It would have been better for whites ( and the USA generally ) if they had left them there.<br /><br /><br />An anonymous said:<br /><br /><i>Its wonderful that the likes of Claverhouse see fit to drop by here and deposit their priceless pearls of wisdom, the distilled essence of the ruling religious paradigm.<br /><br />Bravo sir (or madam)!</i><br /><br /><br />Sir, to you.<br /><br />And the idea that my views in any way approach the liberal is inane. Unlike the moralistic idealism of all republicans, reactionary royalists are more concerned with what <i>will</i> work rather than how it <i>ought</i> to work. To nullify any threat from a particular large group of people, it might be best to gladly give them a little, rather than have them later take the lot.Claverhousehttp://www.serene-falcon.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-54295315025537356522010-10-26T18:26:34.579-07:002010-10-26T18:26:34.579-07:00Its wonderful that the likes of Claverhouse see fi...Its wonderful that the likes of Claverhouse see fit to drop by here and deposit their priceless pearls of wisdom, the distilled essence of the ruling religious paradigm.<br /><br />Bravo sir (or madam)!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-65705867408870058802010-10-26T18:10:09.632-07:002010-10-26T18:10:09.632-07:00On the topic of "la" names, I have a fri...On the topic of "la" names, I have a friend who spent some time working in a pharmacy in inner-city Houston. She told me about a customer named <i>La-a</i>, pronounced "la-DASH-uh". I'm honestly still not sure I believe her, but she's sticking to her story.Mattnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-79048877904018756332010-10-26T18:04:35.300-07:002010-10-26T18:04:35.300-07:00The name Lanae isn't really that weird. It is ...The name Lanae isn't really that weird. It is even slightly less "exotic" than my first name.BamaGirlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-68921261719395015732010-10-26T16:54:59.923-07:002010-10-26T16:54:59.923-07:00My favorite Mormon name belongs to the former Demo...My favorite Mormon name belongs to the former Democratic Congressman from New Hampshire's 2nd district - Dick Swett. It always makes me chuckle.<br /><br />Also, Steve Young's father's name is LeGrande.ksorennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-9159766645930212982010-10-26T16:24:29.236-07:002010-10-26T16:24:29.236-07:00"The only 'La' names that I know of a..."The only 'La' names that I know of are LaVell Edwards,"<br /><br />...or Lamont Lafayette Bean who did quite well in the grocery business.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-41292915799293683772010-10-26T15:21:28.568-07:002010-10-26T15:21:28.568-07:00blacks in America --- who let's face it, haven...<i>blacks in America --- who let's face it, haven't really had a glorious life-experience since being brought over on ships not chartered by themselves</i><br /><br />Compared to the glorious life-experiences of their fortunate brethren left behind in Africa, of course.Svigorhttp://majorityrights.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-8208428267324175772010-10-26T15:18:47.838-07:002010-10-26T15:18:47.838-07:00Yesterday, I came across a black woman with perhap...<i>Yesterday, I came across a black woman with perhaps the best Ghetto Fantastic name of all</i><br /><br />Nah. There's an article at Amren that references someone in health care who told the author (an anonymous lawyer, if memory serves) he has to regularly counsel black mothers against naming their daughters "Latrina."Svigorhttp://majorityrights.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-84034203965284515892010-10-26T15:05:43.160-07:002010-10-26T15:05:43.160-07:00Mencken, in "The American Language," com...Mencken, in "The American Language," comments on black names. He notes that many black women delivered of children at the Baltimore charity hospital succumbed to the naming suggestions of mischievous young physicians doing their residencies there. One such mother, Mencken reports, was persuaded to give her child the Christian and middle names "Positive Wassermann."Mikenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-33537788491315288272010-10-26T13:46:32.597-07:002010-10-26T13:46:32.597-07:00When I was in Walmart a young female black cashier...When I was in Walmart a young female black cashier had an odd name that I couldn't place until I spoke it in my mind: "Mersaidees"<br /><br />Guess here mother was worried about future copyright issues, or she didn't want to be that blatant about giving her daughter a 'stripper' name.Evil Sandmichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06094558583013380137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-86094279435293179832010-10-26T13:31:44.143-07:002010-10-26T13:31:44.143-07:00Anon:
It sure seems like a sensible M'quel or...Anon:<br /><br />It sure seems like a sensible M'quel or LaDon would just do what generations of guys named Frances or Myron have done before them--go by some normal name in everyday life, while leaving their odder name on their formal documents only. The resume from Mike Johnson or Larry Jones will have no special attraction toward the trashcan.none of the abovenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-45047740751684851492010-10-26T13:17:25.065-07:002010-10-26T13:17:25.065-07:00On the mormon name bit, I haven't noticed it e...On the mormon name bit, I haven't noticed it either. <br />I knew a family with a girl named Lanae, which didn't strike me as odd.<br /><br />I wanted an unusual name for our last child, but Bramwell is more old British archaic than just odd (my Utah mormon wife put her foot down and said no).<br /><br />The only 'La' names that I know of are LaVell Edwards, the former BYU coach and LeGrande Richards, a deceased LDS church official. I haven't heard of any in the 50-and-under crowd.Geoff Matthewshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07335872605196107867noreply@blogger.com