tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post2297461177887122889..comments2024-03-27T18:24:19.683-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: Immigration status of the bombing Borat brothersUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger90125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-37779339201774331782013-04-21T02:51:44.006-07:002013-04-21T02:51:44.006-07:00Addendum:
Jody: If you are willing to play hardba...Addendum:<br /><br />Jody: If you are willing to play hardball, and have no siblings, you could possibly tell your parents:<br /><br />OK, parents, that does it. I am tired of your giver-upper mentality(insert negative here). Actions have consequences. Unless you formally renounce statements #1-20 (specify a list here) I am not going to let you meet your grandchildren. Dumb*ss political opinions or grandchildren, your choice. (Just make sure that you have your husband with you on this score.)<br /><br />For added effect, the ultimatum could be stated while your baby is a few hours old, and they are on their way to see the new one. Make them renounce liberalism in front of the doctor - that would teach them!<br /><br />Of course, you should consider all personal details that we are not privy to before doing this. Just a suggestion.<br /><br />Swordnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-13401894901315082432013-04-20T21:12:06.075-07:002013-04-20T21:12:06.075-07:00Given that the terrorism involved the use of bombs...<i>Given that the terrorism involved the use of bombs which were set off so that no one would know who was behind them, I don't exactly see why the number of sidearms citizens use would play much of a role.</i><br /><br />So, in your case, liberalism didn't make you stupid; rather, your stupidity made you liberal. Or maybe it's an honesty issue? You really don't know whether terrorists would rather attack an unarmed population, or an armed one? Or did you just not want to answer the question?<br /><br /><i>And if the two policemen in question were armed, yet were killed or seriously injured nonetheless, don't you think that that is a very good reason for the ordinary citizen to stay in their homes, and let law enforcement do their jobs, instead of patrolling the streets themselves with guns, looking for the suspects?</i><br /><br />Personally? I don't know. I'd have to take it case by case. But I don't make those decisions for anyone else, so what difference does my judgement make? I do know that your question's a bit of a non-sequitur; who said anything about patrolling the streets for terrorists? I also know that it's not the police's job to protect you. This is not just common sense, it's also the law.<br /><br /><i>Why would the terrorists be especially deterred by armed citizens, when they would no doubt gladly kill them if they were armed (as opposed to the guy whose car they commandeered, whom they let free), as readily as they did with the armed police?</i><br /><br />Would you rather citizens have the choice as to whether they face these situations armed, or would you rather they be forced to do things your way? That's the choice on gun control; whether people like you will force the decisions on them, or they'll get to use their own best judgement.<br /><br />I'd rather be armed in that sort of situation. I think anyone with two brain cells to rub together would rather have a gun and not need it than need a gun and not have it. You're free to eliminate as many viable options for yourself as you like.<br /><br /><i>Who can seriously believe that these particular terrorists were going to be deterred by a show of guns by anybody?</i><br /><br />Who can believe you can answer a simple, straightforward question without rewriting it?Svigornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-17176265174329165342013-04-20T20:34:41.863-07:002013-04-20T20:34:41.863-07:00Jody, remember that older people have a natural ps...Jody, remember that older people have a natural psychological block against being schooled by younger people. Parents especially have this block in regard to their children (at any age). In short, the person who can argue with his parents about a contentious issue and change their minds is probably only a figment of imagination. "Thank you, person whom we changed the diapers of. You have taught us that we were totally wrong about our politics, our religion, and our outlook on life. We are grateful that you have revealed to us how stupid we are, and how smart you are in comparison." It ain't happening.<br /><br />It's like teen rebellion in reverse. Many teens refuse to be convinced by parental arguments, no matter what. Nearly all parents won't listen to their offspring when it comes to political and religious disagreements, no matter what.<br /><br />This is natural. Don't push, and maybe they will quietly shift on their own, without losing face.Davidhttp://david-passingparade2.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-68037677193712855892013-04-20T19:55:04.072-07:002013-04-20T19:55:04.072-07:00Candid, I think you're caught up in the law en...Candid, I think you're caught up in the law enforcement=hero baloney. Do not conflate a MIT campus cop, sitting in his cruiser with his thumb up his butt during a manhunt situation, with the hard-bitten urban cop on the beat.<br /><br />Here in Massachusetts, too many non-military service cops just don't have the instincts they need in our almost universally-unarmed environment. This kid paid the price for his lack.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-34547361047743566352013-04-20T18:15:17.549-07:002013-04-20T18:15:17.549-07:00Cail Corishev said: Part of the big lie is this id...Cail Corishev said: Part of the big lie is this idea that we have to choose between wide open immigration and amnesty for everyone already here, or a monochrome society where all foreigners are unwelcome and all cultural differences wiped out and you can't even get a decent ethnic meal. <br /><br />Indeed. Several relatives (blood and in-laws) were a workings chemist in 1950s California. Their social and professional networks included engineers and scientist from Asia and Latin America. <br /><br />They were, to the best of my knowledge, also capable of finding perfectly decent Chinese, Italian, and Mexican food at the time. If they didn't mow their own lawns, they hired poor Whites or old school Japanese gardeners.<br /><br />Magically, this mid-century cornucopia of interesting foreigners, good food, and affordable services didn't require a policy of reducing White Americans to minority status not did it entail sending semiliterate thought police into every newsroom, classroom, and HR department.<br /><br />- The Judean People's FrontAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-24393615408868572332013-04-20T16:17:27.586-07:002013-04-20T16:17:27.586-07:00"Do you think, from a purely operational poin..."Do you think, from a purely operational point of view, that terrorists would rather infiltrate and attack a society where most adults carried sidearms and trained to use them, or a society where they didn't?"<br /><br />Given that the terrorism involved the use of bombs which were set off so that no one would know who was behind them, I don't exactly see why the number of sidearms citizens use would play much of a role. <br /><br />And if the two policemen in question were armed, yet were killed or seriously injured nonetheless, don't you think that that is a very good reason for the ordinary citizen to stay in their homes, and let law enforcement do their jobs, instead of patrolling the streets themselves with guns, looking for the suspects? Why would the terrorists be especially deterred by armed citizens, when they would no doubt gladly kill them if they were armed (as opposed to the guy whose car they commandeered, whom they let free), as readily as they did with the armed police? Who can seriously believe that these particular terrorists were going to be deterred by a show of guns by anybody?<br /><br />And then there are the hand grenades they were also using. Although I guess that's just a legal obstacle that should be removed -- after all, if hand grenades are outlawed, only outlaws will have hand grenades.<br /><br />As I said, macho makes some people stupid. candid_observernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-77166152045297549192013-04-20T15:43:01.703-07:002013-04-20T15:43:01.703-07:00"While I'm at it, could the Anonymous com..."While I'm at it, could the Anonymous commenters please get a handle? Call yourself Morris Dees's Manpurse or Janet Napolitano's Vibrator or whatever, change your handle for every thread even, but please identify your comments in some way."<br /><br />Anonymous is easier. It means that anyone who wants to identify you by trawling through all your comments and using various methods to determine who you actually are has no chance in hell. Some people have cause to do that. I would actually like to go back to using a handle, maybe I will<br /><br />In my twenties I used to comment under a few handles, but now I'm happy to contribute thoughts or ideas without the ego trip of having my own handle be associated with those ideas. OTOH, I do enjoy that certain others keep their own handles, because I enjoy reading them for various reasons. Svigor always, the JPF, Corishev, jody. Half the time Whiskey can be insightful, the other half he's still amusing to read. Even Uncle Truth makes the place better for his contribution, e.g. iSteve = SWPL Stormfront, that was a classic.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-33205676705232445402013-04-20T13:57:42.140-07:002013-04-20T13:57:42.140-07:00It took 2,500 LE over 21 hours to track down and c...It took 2,500 LE over 21 hours to track down and capture a guy who had been wounded in the earlier gun play. And that only after the owner of the boat went out for a cigarette and noticed something was awry. Am I the only one laughing at this?<br /><br />And all my neighbors are lionizing themselves for being strong and brave for cowering in their homes!<br /><br />I don't recognize my culture anymore.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-72346307614113623472013-04-20T12:41:37.152-07:002013-04-20T12:41:37.152-07:00Good point. Our religions for the most part just g...<i>Good point. Our religions for the most part just go to some bar and hope you meet someone. Our religions have bought into this whole romantic, soul mate nonsense instead of a more practical, secure situation. There is no culture of getting people married within your group. I went to Catholic schools and there was none of this.</i><br />You know who does understand this and do something about it? Cults. Remember the mass marriages among the Moonies? That's because Reverend Moon understood that having a bunch of thirtysomething singletons was stupid and they needed to be paired up with someone. Other cults have done the same -- mind you, the cult leader still gets to sample the best of the female cult followers. I hate cults, but in this area they are one of the very few parts of our society to follow common sense solutions.<br /><br />While I'm at it, could the Anonymous commenters please get a handle? Call yourself Morris Dees's Manpurse or Janet Napolitano's Vibrator or whatever, change your handle for every thread even, but please identify your comments in some way.CJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18209227831122554231noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-87404804813665090362013-04-20T12:22:13.753-07:002013-04-20T12:22:13.753-07:00Jody:
In what way - if any - are you dependent on...Jody:<br /><br />In what way - if any - are you dependent on your parents? Waiting for an inheritance? If they actually have to depend on you, then things might change if you press the issue. But tally up the relative strengths accurately first.<br /><br />Depressing. <br /><br />I recognize the feeling - my father is a philosemite. Luckily, there are so few Scotch-Irish in my country so they do not run the country by a long shot. They have more than their population %age in political power, but since the population %age is so small, it is still quite bearable.Swordnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-59920827027727852962013-04-20T11:51:02.459-07:002013-04-20T11:51:02.459-07:00...a single foreigner of any race is welcome in ev...<em>...a single foreigner of any race is welcome in every country under heaven. A few foreigners add some colour and will certainly be tolerated and well entertained by the natives.</em><br /><br />Part of the big lie is this idea that we have to choose between wide open immigration and amnesty for everyone already here, or a monochrome society where all foreigners are unwelcome and all cultural differences wiped out and you can't even get a decent ethnic meal. <br /><br />That's stupid, of course, but that's the way the pols and the press frame it, so that's how most people see it.Cail Corishevhttp://cailcorishev.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-40814031205583049782013-04-20T11:04:01.230-07:002013-04-20T11:04:01.230-07:00jody,
Does your family live in a "culturally...jody,<br /><br />Does your family live in a "culturally enriched" area? My family has LA area roots dating back to the 1920's so even left-leaning relatives have a hard time maintaining denial. <br /><br />My great grand parents are buried in a cemetery that now hosts a hipster friendly Dia de Los Muertos celebration. <br /><br />The experience of watching Aztecs literally dance on your ancestors' graves is just one example of the sort of opportunity for reality contact that Whitopia residents might lack. <br /><br />-The Judean People's Front<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-79356481242359507462013-04-20T11:01:26.938-07:002013-04-20T11:01:26.938-07:00Do you think the security guard is in the afterlif...Do you think the security guard is in the afterlife, right now, wishing he'd been on duty <i>without</i> a gun?<br /><br />Do you think not having a gun would have saved him? Do you think his odds, going into the situation, were somehow harmed by having a firearm? Or were they improved?<br /><br />Liberalism <i>always</i> makes people stupid.Svigornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-77556560898874820862013-04-20T10:58:18.064-07:002013-04-20T10:58:18.064-07:00"I think it's unseemly to be terrorized b...<i>"I think it's unseemly to be terrorized by any problem a sidearm should be able to handle."<br /><br />Yeah, because sidearms worked so well for the one policeman who was killed and the other policeman who is still in critical condition.<br /><br />You know, sometimes macho really does make people stupid.</i><br /><br />Usually it's just stupid that makes people stupid. Do you think, from a purely operational point of view, that terrorists would rather infiltrate and attack a society where most adults carried sidearms and trained to use them, or a society where they didn't?Svigornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-13130812312531694022013-04-20T10:53:05.454-07:002013-04-20T10:53:05.454-07:00i was incredulous.
Far be it from me to judge you...<i>i was incredulous.</i><br /><br />Far be it from me to judge your family dynamics, but in my experience, older people are (even more) prone to "stop worrying and love the bomb." They want to enjoy their retirement, not swallow the red pill.<br /><br /><i>i knew right then the united states was over.</i><br /><br />And for my third movie allusion, I summon Tom Arnold:<br /><br />"Welcome to the club, man!"Svigornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-69010591925828977512013-04-20T10:25:02.500-07:002013-04-20T10:25:02.500-07:00most americans are moderate and accepting of a few...<i>most americans are moderate and accepting of a few immigrants. very few people are of the opinion that there should be not a single funny looking foreigner setting foot in the US. but a few immigrants, well that's not what we're talking about here. we're talking about a nation changing invasion.</i><br /><br />Somewhat related to this sentiment is a good piece written by <a href="http://www.israelshamir.net/English/immigration.htm" rel="nofollow">Israel Shamir</a> where he describes how people are naturally protective of their resources, but welcome strangers. They just don't welcome invasions.<br /><br /><i>...a single foreigner of any race is welcome in every country under heaven. A few foreigners add some colour and will certainly be tolerated and well entertained by the natives.<br />...<br />In my well-travelled life I have enjoyed sojourns among the Japanese (who are supposed to be terrible racists), among the Palestinians (who have good reason to be wary of strangers), and many other peoples, from English to Thai, from Swedes to Malays. All of them were hospitable and welcoming.<br /><br />When I left Russia and moved to Israel in the late 1960s, I was welcomed. However, within a few years of greater and greater waves of Russian immigration, I was transformed from a single somewhat exotic stranger, into just another drop from a huge flood of foreigners. Russian Jews were suddenly hated by yesterday’s immigrants as they began to compete for low-pay jobs and subsidized accommodation.</i>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-88634936149047535432013-04-20T10:16:48.805-07:002013-04-20T10:16:48.805-07:00JOdy said:
"Groups who are not here to assim...JOdy said:<br /><br />"Groups who are not here to assimilate and adapt and blend in".<br /><br />You got that one right. <br /><br />In Europe, it is abundantly clear they are there to take over. <br /><br />Anon. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-81974924657913420732013-04-20T09:39:56.530-07:002013-04-20T09:39:56.530-07:00"The racial makeup of the city was 91.42% Whi..."The racial makeup of the city was 91.42% White, 1.73% African American, 0.16% Native American, 3.87% Asian, 0.02% Pacific Islander, 0.85% from other races, and 1.95% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 2.68% of the population."<br /><br />Most of those whites are Obama-voting supporters of amnesty and globalist open borders. <br />They are traitors who hate and despise white cons. <br /><br />F them. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-22677125277830063672013-04-20T09:22:35.025-07:002013-04-20T09:22:35.025-07:00"If I understand it right (is it so?), above ..."If I understand it right (is it so?), above a certain age there are no single women in Islam. All women are married, with someone charged with taking care of them. So a women can be old, ugly, fat, and have prior kids, but it's going to be some poor guy's responsibility to be married to her and take care of her and her kids."<br /><br />Good point. Our religions for the most part just go to some bar and hope you meet someone. Our religions have bought into this whole romantic, soul mate nonsense instead of a more practical, secure situation.<br /><br />There is no culture of getting people married within your group. I went to Catholic schools and there was none of this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-19505721961914784342013-04-20T08:31:05.583-07:002013-04-20T08:31:05.583-07:00Jody, in a few years, you will get the chance for ...Jody, in a few years, you will get the chance for a poignant "I told you so" when the central government cuts off Dad's pension and Medicare to free up funds for the children of immigrants.ben tillmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-69321758179150227842013-04-20T08:04:24.290-07:002013-04-20T08:04:24.290-07:00"I think it's unseemly to be terrorized b..."I think it's unseemly to be terrorized by any problem a sidearm should be able to handle."<br /><br />Yeah, because sidearms worked so well for the one policeman who was killed and the other policeman who is still in critical condition.<br /><br />You know, sometimes macho really does make people stupid. candid_observernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-48769767491420570302013-04-20T07:59:51.358-07:002013-04-20T07:59:51.358-07:00my dad is also 70, so he feels that it doesn't...<i>my dad is also 70, so he feels that it doesn't affect him as much. he won't be around to live that much of his life in the new 2.0 america, so he doesn't care about it as passionately.</i><br /><br />And that's another victory for the atomizers. They disconnect us from one another in the present, and they disconnect us from our past and future. ben tillmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-3148994947906885992013-04-20T06:33:04.968-07:002013-04-20T06:33:04.968-07:00Jody, why don't you try sarcasm?
"It&#...Jody, why don't you try sarcasm? <br /><br />"It's too bad we're white. That's the whole reason we're not allowed to have a future worth looking forward to, because we're white. If we were something else we'd be allowed to stand up for up ourselves, but we're white so we can't. Like if we were Jews then we could defend our culture and we could act in our own interests and it would just be considered normal, rather than considered HATE, just like Jews do in Israel. If we were Jews, the haters would be people who said we have no right to defend ourselves. But we're white so it's defending ourselves that is hate. What a deal. But it doesn't matter. The most important thing we can possibly do right now is find newer and greater ways to abase ourselves. I mean, isn't it ridiculous that we're told we have to wait until 2050 to become a minority? We're the greatest country in the world. Surely we can get that down to 2030 or better, right? Come on. Think outside the box." <br /><br />Or try guilt.<br /><br />"Well thanks dad, thanks a lot. You're 70 and you got to grow up and mature in what was basically a white country but you don't care what kind of country I will have to grow old in, or what kind of a country my children will have to grow up in. Yeah, thanks a lot for that. Actually, thanks for nothing."<br /><br />That's harsh, of course, but sometimes a kick in the guts like that is what it takes.Silvernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-47690409969484358472013-04-20T06:15:33.858-07:002013-04-20T06:15:33.858-07:00it's not like that at all. they are not libera...<em>it's not like that at all. they are not liberals. these are good, honest, hardworking, tax paying, high achieving, life long republican voting german/english americans.</em><br /><br />I know what you mean; sounds like my family. They're of a conservative disposition, but susceptible to the mainstream liberal narrative.<br /><br />It's not that they think we need lots of immigrants; it's that they're dedicated to being Nice. Stopping people at the border and telling them to go home (or even worse, arresting people and sending them home) has been defined as Not Nice, so they can't have it. (It doesn't help that they have no real contact with immigrants themselves, so they can see it all as theory through the media's rose-covered glasses.)<br /><br />It's the mentality that made them stop keeping score in peewee sports leagues because it's Not Nice to call one side losers, and which resulted in the banning and shaming of IQ testing because it's Not Nice to tell someone he's not smart. Now it's being applied to immigration and other issues, and the people dedicated to being Nice can't take any position that might hurt someone's feelings somewhere.Cail Corishevhttp://cailcorishev.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-30467469022910312282013-04-20T05:58:28.698-07:002013-04-20T05:58:28.698-07:00As a bookish, history obsessed child, I used to wo...<i>As a bookish, history obsessed child, I used to wonder what it would have been like to live as an aware, thinking person in an blatantly delusional society. I never dreamed I would get the chance to find out.</i><br /><br />Heh, you and I both. Actually, wait, no. I used to wonder what it would be like to live in a society in which everyone always told the truth and I was the only one who knew how to lie. Then I grew up and realized the world I was living in was the reverse. Silvernoreply@blogger.com