tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post2323659515842323443..comments2024-03-15T20:52:26.967-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: Homicide Rates: Back toward Crack among BlacksUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger52125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-91660474586951824402009-01-04T18:24:00.000-08:002009-01-04T18:24:00.000-08:00"but so long as it exists wait-staff have every ri..."but so long as it exists wait-staff have every right to expect tips, even if they can't demand them."<BR/><BR/>But that's just it, waiters do expect tips, and the can't demand them. Therefore, one's best, most logical strategy is to do his best job on every table no matter what the client looks like, and hope to make it up in the agregate.Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-77940465607521232802009-01-04T15:34:00.000-08:002009-01-04T15:34:00.000-08:00"I was paid a very low wage, yet I never got ..."I was paid a very low wage, yet I never got more than a few tips, and those all came from women who tipped me for sport."<BR/><BR/>For sport? well, better a thumbs up than down. I wonder how UPS & Fedex guys do. I mean their packages are usually more eagerly anticipated than office papers.<BR/>I too am against tipping. Other countries managed to get decent wait staff without expecting tips until tourists spoiled them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-24702595337746143062009-01-04T15:14:00.000-08:002009-01-04T15:14:00.000-08:00Truth wrote:A restaurant manager I had (black) gav...Truth wrote:<BR/><BR/><I>A restaurant manager I had (black) gave a waitress (white) the best advice on this I have heard he said, and I paraphrase:<BR/><BR/>"Understand that your salary for working here is $2.10 per hour; anything else you receive is a bonus."</I><BR/><BR/>I'm suprised to hear that coming from someone who once worked in the waiting profession, but it's a-hole legalism. The wages of wait-staff are probably adjusted downwards because of tipping, so tipping them is basically part of how they get paid. The tradition of tipping probably never should have started, but so long as it exists wait-staff have every right to expect tips, even if they can't demand them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-42400180324432388702009-01-04T04:01:00.000-08:002009-01-04T04:01:00.000-08:00"However, I have witnessed the restaurant phenomen..."However, I have witnessed the restaurant phenomenon. Black people have a thing about being mean in restaurants."<BR/><BR/>I think it's great that you are get along with people different than you. I tend to do the same. <BR/><BR/>I was a waiter for about 7 years of my life, in college and beyond, let me tell you; generally speaking, blacks tip less than whites. I would say that this is true, and I politely told a few black people about this and they did not seem to know that they were expected to double the tax for a tip. <BR/><BR/>As far as being rude, that is a problem in the greater African-American society, not just with restaurants. I have not noticed this in blacks born outside of the US, have you?<BR/><BR/>I think the bottom line is that if you are a waiter and you go to the table with the attitude that someone is going to be rude, not tip, there is a good chance that they will pick up upon it and do just that. People tend to be perceptive. <BR/><BR/>A restaurant manager I had (black) gave a waitress (white) the best advice on this I have heard he said, and I paraphrase:<BR/><BR/>"Understand that your salary for working here is $2.10 per hour; anything else you receive is a bonus."Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-84235347062518230902009-01-03T21:07:00.000-08:002009-01-03T21:07:00.000-08:00rael saidNow that we have a black/white president,...rael said<BR/><BR/><I>Now that we have a black/white president, can we all just be expect obey the rules of civility in restaurants and other public places or else keep out of them?</I><BR/><BR/>Can't we all just get along?<BR/><BR/>The diversity has proved, time and again, that the answer is no.<BR/><BR/>The solution used to be segregation. That was struck down (except in the better yeshivas). Now long and strong prison sentences are keeping something of a lid on things. Those are under attack.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-59481599356615969162009-01-03T16:48:00.000-08:002009-01-03T16:48:00.000-08:00I don't like hearing that women tend to be poor ti...<I>I don't like hearing that women tend to be poor tippers -- they are average tippers, but not usually extra-generous -- but it seems to be the case. I always tip extra, and my friend tips ridiculously high because she resents that stereotype.<BR/><BR/>-Rael</I><BR/><BR/>I tip the standard pretty much every time, unless I get exceptionally good or bad service, and then I adjust accordingly. <BR/><BR/>However, I am against tipping on principle. When I was a kid, I used to work in service as a courier, which is a dangerous job that almost got me killed. I was very fast, courteous, and never lost or damaged a package. I was paid a very low wage, yet I never got more than a few tips, and those all came from women who tipped me for sport. <BR/><BR/>If I ran a restaurant, I would institute a no-tip policy, but all waiters/waitresses would receive a 17.5% commission on their sales in addition to the base wage. Under this setup, the more food and drinks they sold the more they'd make, and they couldn't be stiffed. That would work out well for everyone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-60101352016444776872009-01-03T15:06:00.000-08:002009-01-03T15:06:00.000-08:00The bottom line here I feel is that had this waitr...The bottom line here I feel is that had this waitress experienced rude treatment from a white patron, it is doubtful that she would have anointed this patron as the flag bearer for all whites.."<BR/> <BR/> The bacon thrower was not "flag bearer." He was comic relief by comparison with some of the examples. In any case, we are talking statistics and expectations. <BR/><BR/> You pretend not to get it, perhaps because the true truth is too distasteful. It can be like that for any ethnic group when they hear of stereotypical white behavior that is not flattering.<BR/> The whole point of the comment string (all of which I'd heard before) is that STATISTICALLY such behavior is common to almost expected (the bacon thrower was extreme, but STATISTICALLY not likely to be white; or Asian. Could he have been. Well, duh. I'm sure something like it has happened. But just, shall we say, less expected in some unadmitted way.<BR/> Some of the commenters were black as were some of the waiters who commented. Both blacks and whites agreed that blacks were poor tippers (though one poor guy said he always tipped extra well because he was balck and felt so bad about there stereotype.)<BR/> I don't like hearing that women tend to be poor tippers -- they are average tippers, but not usually extra-generous -- but it seems to be the case. I always tip extra, and my friend tips ridiculously high because she resents that stereotype.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-9723392009988606482009-01-03T14:54:00.000-08:002009-01-03T14:54:00.000-08:00Have no idea if the black man who threw the back t...Have no idea if the black man who threw the back topping at the waitress out was a Muslim. In any case, a sincere convert practitioner (converts are usually more aware of the essence of a religion than are those born and raised in it) of that religion would politely send it away. However, as some note, shrimp is not eaten by muslims. <BR/>Tis non-tipping thing is also inflicted on black waiters and black owned restauranteurs. Maybe the idea of restaurants being segregated at one time has something to do with it, but that "demographic" has a very low rate of charity in general. They are not the ones sending millions to Africa or adopting African orphans. People who do not feel totally responsible for themselves -- even when they make way above the average per annum --do not feel responsible for other people. How can they? When someone defines himself as a victim when the victimization is largely illusory, then I don't trust his sense of being "discriminated against" in a freakin' restaurant. Everybody feels slighted from time to time. Women used to feel slighted in fine restaurants if they were dining alone.<BR/> Now that we have a black/white president, can we all just be expect obey the rules of civility in restaurants and other public places or else keep out of them?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-87314233014543757092009-01-03T13:30:00.000-08:002009-01-03T13:30:00.000-08:00The bottom line here I feel is that had this waitr...<I>The bottom line here I feel is that had this waitress experienced rude treatment from a white patron, it is doubtful that she would have anointed this patron as the flag bearer for all whites, it was all to easy for her, and it term, you to anoint this person as the flag bearer for all blacks.<BR/><BR/>-Truth</I><BR/><BR/>Actually, I get along with black people just fine most of the time. At least as well as whites, and often better. Here in Seattle black people are generally friendlier and more open than the white residents, who avoid interacting with strangers. <BR/><BR/>However, I have witnessed the restaurant phenomenon. Black people have a thing about being mean in restaurants. My assumption is that it has something to do with a perception of white restaurants as racist, because they used to be segregated a half century or so ago.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-88662698762555480992009-01-03T10:49:00.000-08:002009-01-03T10:49:00.000-08:00Yes Sir:I read your comment and I was vaguely awar...Yes Sir:<BR/><BR/>I read your comment and I was vaguely aware that shrimp is considered a 'bottom feeder' in Islam, along with pork, as it is in Orthodox Judaism and Christianity. However, I don't think muslims who do not get deep into the Koran would know this, all muslims however are aware that pork is forbidden.<BR/><BR/>I do not even know for certain that the gentleman in question was a Muslim, but putting peices of the story together, this is what I come up with.<BR/><BR/>The bottom line here I feel is that had this waitress experienced rude treatment from a white patron, it is doubtful that she would have anointed this patron as the flag bearer for all whites, it was all to easy for her, and it term, you to anoint this person as the flag bearer for all blacks. I'm sure that you and the waitress have, a least once in your respective lives met a kind, personable black person and had you CHOSEN to, you could have elevated him/her to flag bearer status, you chose to ignore this one time and instead, focus upon the behavior of this <A HREF="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/thug" REL="nofollow">'thug'</A>.<BR/><BR/>Judge not lest ye be judged.Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-10366429880042348632009-01-03T01:01:00.000-08:002009-01-03T01:01:00.000-08:00I took the criteria given at face value and came u...<I>I took the criteria given at face value and came up with the logical assertion that the man got angry because it conflicted with his religious beliefs. <BR/><BR/>-Truth</I><BR/><BR/>Didn't you read my comment? Shrimp is a point of huge contention in Islam. There exists a big shrimp debate concerning whether shrimp is halal. If this guy was ordering shrimp, he must not be overly concerned about Islamic dietary laws. <BR/><BR/>Shrimp is generally considered to be makrooh, which means it is not explicitly forbidden but is still suspect. Same as taking a leak while facing the sun. <BR/><BR/>My guess is that it used to be considered strictly haram, but shrimp is so tasty and popular that exceptions were made.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-63009814620298252722009-01-02T22:18:00.000-08:002009-01-02T22:18:00.000-08:00"Any self-respecting muslim would simply have decl..."Any self-respecting muslim would simply have declined the dish as 'contamniated' and WOULD NOT eat it even if the bacon has been pulled out."<BR/><BR/>Your'e right, any self respecting ANYTHING would have behaved in a (manner similar to what you describe, but I don't feel that a lack of self respect is a trait unique to black people. As a matter of fact, I'm fairly sure that it isn't. <BR/><BR/>The poster who made this comment described the man in question as a "thug". I was always told that the word thug deals with criminal behavior which was not exhibited in this situation. Does a man's rudeness at a waitress brand him a "thug", or does a black man's rudeness at a waitress brand him a thug? That is one to ponder.<BR/><BR/>I took the criteria given at face value and came up with the logical assertion that the man got angry because it conflicted with his religious beliefs. That does not make what he did "positive", nor does it make him the water carrier for the entire black "race."<BR/><BR/>As far as one not understanding the faith he professes, how many (white) Christians do you know who have abstained from pre-marital sex, have refrain from passing judgement, always tell the truth, and tithe 10% of their income?Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-52639761567027334782009-01-02T03:15:00.000-08:002009-01-02T03:15:00.000-08:00Truth, You've got it totally wrong re. 'hand ...Truth,<BR/> You've got it totally wrong re. 'hand in the shrimp'.<BR/> Any self-respecting muslim would simply have declined the dish as 'contamniated' and WOULD NOT eat it even if the bacon has been pulled out.In their way of thinking pork is like radioactive contamination of everything it touches.<BR/> Similarly, a good muslim would never but never eat in a non-muslim restaurant.Just the act of cooking food in the same pans as pork is regarded as a contamination - that's why i have zero sympathy for the thug - he just wants to make a big show of being a 'muslim' (like many blacks), without really undestanding the faith he professes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-30974492453197341582009-01-02T02:46:00.000-08:002009-01-02T02:46:00.000-08:00The recent cases of Martin Dinnegan and Jimmy Mize...The recent cases of Martin Dinnegan and Jimmy Mizen got a lot of media coverage though. They were white kids who were murdered by blacks.<BR/><BR/>There was major media coverage of Kriss Donald, a white Glaswegian boy who was murdered by Asian youths.<BR/><BR/>Major coverage too of the case of Tom ap Rhys Pryce, a 31-year-old Welsh-born solicitor murdered by two black teenagers. Ditto for Richard Whelan, stabbed to death by a black lunatic on the top deck of a London bus.<BR/><BR/>About a decade ago there was definitely a bias among important sections of the media, notably the BBC, to report white-on-black killings more thoroughly than black-on-white killings. <BR/><BR/>But the examples above show that is on the wane. Privately-owned print media is generally much less politically-correct than the BBC too.<BR/><BR/>Lumping together the Daily Express, the Guardian, the Sun and the BBC into one monolithic 'MSM' is a convenient rhetorical trick but it doesn't explain or predict much.<BR/><BR/>You wouldn't hear so much about Stephen Lawrence if certain corrupt Eltham CID officers hadn't been doing favours for villains, trying to get their sons off the hook by 'losing' important evidence. On top of that, there was the much-heat-but-little-light generated by the Macpherson Report smokescreen, and the Metropolitan Police's own political stage-managing of many aspects of the case.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-15414394519980781592009-01-01T21:30:00.000-08:002009-01-01T21:30:00.000-08:00Check out recent news stories on the spate, nay ti...<I>Check out recent news stories on the spate, nay tidal wave, of London stabbings.</I><BR/><BR/>Its hard to tease out the details of these crimes in the British MSM. They are often ascribed merely to 'youths'. Also these days we hear a lot about 'knife crime' as if it were the knives themselves that went out doing the stabbing rather than the people wielding them. Generally the racial dynamics of these stabbings are left somewhat obscure. Usually black-on-black sometimes black-on-white (<I>very</I> much downplayed in those cases).<BR/><BR/>Probably every news editor in Britain prays nightly to wake up the next day and hear that a gang of white youths has knifed a black kid. Then the MSM can swing into action with righteous fury. Alas their prayers have not yet been answered.<BR/><BR/>There was <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Lawrence" REL="nofollow">one</A> like that, but it was 1993. There have been other white-on-black killings but that one is the media touchstone and it most resembles the current spate of stabbings. The Stephen Lawrence case continues to get quite an airing over here. Just do a search on the name.<BR/><BR/>One would think people would wonder why one murder from 15 years ago apparently shows the unremitting racism of white youths and the British police while recent regular stabbings dont say anything about blacks as a group. But thats not up for public discussion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-39458004909821455942009-01-01T10:52:00.000-08:002009-01-01T10:52:00.000-08:00Truth said...You assume 'thug' I assume 'muslim'; ...<I>Truth said...<BR/><BR/>You assume 'thug' I assume 'muslim'; You say tomato...<BR/><BR/>Many 'white' muslims would have taken great offense to having their dinner bespoiled by having the remains of a 'disgusting', 'unclean' animal brought to the table, it's all a matter of perspective.</I><BR/><BR/>Muslims don't eat shrimp, either, so I doubt that was the issue. <BR/><BR/>Rude behavior in restaurants is unfortunately all too typical among this demographic. They don't tip, either. I'm not sure why restaurants are so often seen as appropriate venues for taking out one's aggression, but it may have something to do with their being so frequently portrayed as a symbol of racism (due to previous segregation).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-83048033635375173942008-12-31T13:53:00.000-08:002008-12-31T13:53:00.000-08:00You could easily walk through the central business...You could easily walk through the central business district of NY or Chicago for 15 minutes without seeing a uniformed police officer. You'd pass thousands of people, but you wouldn't see any police walking the beat. <BR/><BR/><BR/>WTF? Cops are everywhere in Manhattan.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-68343735703921685662008-12-31T07:48:00.000-08:002008-12-31T07:48:00.000-08:00"The waitress got it wrong, man got bacon. Man put..."The waitress got it wrong, man got bacon. Man put his HANDS IN THE SHRIMP, called her a bitch and threw the bacon out. That she would have continued to wait on this "custmer" -- thug, really -- amazed me."<BR/><BR/>You assume 'thug' I assume 'muslim'; You say tomato...<BR/><BR/>Many 'white' muslims would have taken great offense to having their dinner bespoiled by having the remains of a 'disgusting', 'unclean' animal brought to the table, it's all a matter of perspective.Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-53392615276560796592008-12-31T01:09:00.000-08:002008-12-31T01:09:00.000-08:00But what if you WALKED through a crowded area of t...<I>But what if you WALKED through a crowded area of the US? You could easily walk through the central business district of NY or Chicago for 15 minutes without seeing a uniformed police officer. You'd pass thousands of people, but you wouldn't see any police walking the beat. <BR/><BR/>-Anon</I><BR/><BR/>Trust me, it's different. You really don't see cops in China very often at all. When you do, it's kind of a big deal. I doubt the thing about not seeing cops in NY or Chicago business districts. We are so accustomed to cops in America that we take their presence for granted and often don't even notice them. <BR/><BR/>Testing99 must have been inhaling the bad air a little too deeply when he was in Beijing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-65671661086516581042008-12-30T21:19:00.000-08:002008-12-30T21:19:00.000-08:00"2nd gen Vietnamese-Americans have an incarceratio..."2nd gen Vietnamese-Americans have an incarceration rate equivalent to that of Mexican-Americans"<BR/><BR/>"Can you point us to the data? I haven't seen crime stats that are so broken down."<BR/><BR/>This UC Irvine study by Ruben Rumbaut from 2006 breaks it down by Ethnic group:<BR/><BR/>Debunking the Myth of Immigrant<BR/>Criminality: Imprisonment Among First- and Second-Generation Young Men <BR/>http://www.migrationinformation.org/Feature/display.cfm?id=403<BR/><BR/>They find a 5.6 percent 2nd gen. Vietnamese incarceration rate vs a 5.9 percent 2nd gen. Mexican American one. I don't know about "hispanics" as a whole, but Mexicans are more than 50% of US hispanics so that can't be too far off.<BR/><BR/>(My alternate title for the piece: "Rebunking the Truth of Children of Immigrant Criminality".... gee whiz I wonder wonder why they didn't pick that title when it describes the results just as well?)<BR/><BR/>Apologies to those that have seen me reference this study for the 20th time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-65607133544358544852008-12-30T20:30:00.000-08:002008-12-30T20:30:00.000-08:00"2nd gen Vietnamese-Americans have an incarceratio..."2nd gen Vietnamese-Americans have an incarceration rate equivalent to that of Mexican-Americans"<BR/><BR/>Can you point us to the data? I haven't seen crime stats that are so broken down.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-43988774949509784822008-12-30T16:53:00.000-08:002008-12-30T16:53:00.000-08:00It may well be true that there is less violent cri...It may well be true that there is less violent crime (or crime of any sort) in Asia, but I am not so sure that there are fewer policemen there. <BR/><BR/>If you DROVE through any major US city for 15 minutes you'd probably see one or more police officers, it's true. <BR/><BR/>But what if you WALKED through a crowded area of the US? You could easily walk through the central business district of NY or Chicago for 15 minutes without seeing a uniformed police officer. You'd pass thousands of people, but you wouldn't see any police walking the beat. <BR/><BR/>This is even true of high crime areas. When I lived in NYC in the late 90's I made a few unwitting walking tours of the South Bronx and the seedier areas of Bklyn and did not see any police officers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-21269028123953964812008-12-30T15:09:00.000-08:002008-12-30T15:09:00.000-08:00In Chinese immigrant communities, brutal Tong Wars...In Chinese immigrant communities, brutal Tong Wars took many lives. In mainland China during the end of the last empire, banditry and lawlesness flourished. During Mao's Cultural Revolution, young thugs terrorized the country. <BR/><BR/>I would suspect that crime rates tend to be low because the Communist party has a policy of harshly dealing with crime. <BR/><BR/>2nd gen Vietnamese-Americans have an incarceration rate equivalent to that of Mexican-Americans, despite being the descendants of a fairly selective wave of migrants. In the UK, a less selective wave Vietnamese migrants have done about as well as our Hmong and ethnic Lao.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-56432784366018806382008-12-30T15:03:00.000-08:002008-12-30T15:03:00.000-08:00Ian,I have noticed that many London murders involv...Ian,<BR/><BR/>I have noticed that many London murders involve blacks killing other blacks with both the perps and the victims being a mixture of Black-British, that is West-Indians and, latterly, Africans, who seem to have bought into the rap/ghetto bullshit.<BR/><BR/>Check out recent news stories on the spate, nay tidal wave, of London stabbings.<BR/><BR/>RichardAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-38245796643527092222008-12-30T08:25:00.000-08:002008-12-30T08:25:00.000-08:00On the point about cells phones, if the police are...On the point about cells phones, if the police are called while the crime is ongoing, perps are caught 30% of the time (I forget the citation).Ron Guhnamehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06421460508647618774noreply@blogger.com