tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post2345525050012319599..comments2024-03-28T16:22:14.888-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: Stunning news: Obama Administration opposes equal treatment under the lawUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger41125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-66948828516390346032009-04-14T10:51:00.000-07:002009-04-14T10:51:00.000-07:00Anonymous said
[I]t is laughable to think that me...Anonymous said<br /><br /><I>[I]t is laughable to think that men are lying awake at night dreaming of being a customer service representative or a file clerk at $9 or $10/hour.[...] A young man starting out can often get a job that is more interesting and pays more[,] doing something like driving a forklift or unloading trucks.</I>Not every man can drive a forklift or unload trucks, or clean sewers. Some of us want office work and are damn good at it.<br /><br />But keep believing it's a "Mad Men" world, just like your mentors from your high school days told you.<br /><br />Remember, 80% isn't enough!Davidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-19413428077193081692009-04-12T00:23:00.000-07:002009-04-12T00:23:00.000-07:00Anonymousbut to a large extent, a young man starti...<I>Anonymous<BR/><BR/>but to a large extent, a young man starting out can often get a job that is more interesting and pays more doing something like driving a forklift or unloading trucks.</I><BR/><BR/>Are you on crack? <BR/><BR/>I worked for an Italian bakery unloading boxes of Bertolli olive oil from trucks, selling donuts to fat women and shoving frozen loaves into furnaces with my bare hands at the age of 16, and I can't even begin to explain how happy I was to get promoted to driving the trucks (when I was 17). And this despite the fact that the truck they gave me had mirrors that flapped in the wind and brakes that sent me skidding through intersections! <BR/><BR/>I'm starting to think that all these female service jobs should simply be eliminated immediately. Women don't want them, they aren't productive, and maybe without the overhead young guys might actually get a decent wage for working like slaves in dead-end jobs. Also, maybe the women would think twice about divorcing their husbands for "general discontent" if they didn't have these ass-warming positions handed out to them like candy.Billhttp://www.welmer.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-84164024669023241822009-04-11T21:45:00.000-07:002009-04-11T21:45:00.000-07:00Thomas, you are full of beans. Your version of wh...Thomas, you are full of beans. Your version of what I wrote is no clearer than the original. To use "80%+" in a comment on a blog is NOT poor usage. Abbreviations and misspellings are rather common on the internet. As long as someone doesn't rant and rave in ALL CAPS, there is no need to pick apart their comment word by word. <BR/><BR/>Truth, more women end up in clerical careers than men. To some extent this may be because men are seen by managers as more difficult to manage in an office setting, or more likely to quit as soon as they can find something better, but to a large extent, a young man starting out can often get a job that is more interesting and pays more doing something like driving a forklift or unloading trucks. Divorced women with children often end up in crummy clerical jobs being underpaid because the boss knows that they can't afford to quit and start over somewhere else with no medical coverage for four to six months.<BR/><BR/>One woman I worked with when I was still in high school told me that in her experience, men were better able to "move up" with each job change, while women were more likely to have to start at the bottom each time they changed employers. In today's economy, I would say that nearly everybody who loses a job is at great risk of having to take a pay cut. <BR/><BR/>A couple of years ago, one of my nephews worked at a stock brokerage. When he answered the phone, the clients were generally willing to let him handle whatever problem they had. But if one of the FEMALES in the office answered the phone, the clients would immediately demand to speak to one of the stockbrokers. So, there are probably some businesses that find it advantageous to hire males rather than females, to the extent that they can get away with it.<BR/><BR/>I think that white males get a super-sized raw deal in the American employment arena, but it is laughable to think that men are lying awake at night dreaming of being a customer service representative or a file clerk at $9 or $10/hour. The pink collar ghetto is pink because the employers can find enough women willing to work for peanuts if the job comes with medical benefits. Some of these women are married to men who are self-employed and make good money, and as a team they do pretty well for their families. But to actually have to live on a clerical worker's salary is pretty hard.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-28460159052347179252009-04-11T12:04:00.000-07:002009-04-11T12:04:00.000-07:00Anonymous, the problem isn't so much with your log...Anonymous, the problem isn't so much with your logic. It's with your writing.<BR/><BR/><I>Lots of offices are 80%+ female, so being female doesn't get you anywhere.</I><BR/><BR/>What you mean is: "Lots of offices are more than 80% female. In such an instance, being female does not provide any notable advantage in further promotions."<BR/><BR/>Or something along those lines.Thomasnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-91336066973220141732009-04-11T12:01:00.000-07:002009-04-11T12:01:00.000-07:00Hispanic female roofers are very rare (I've never ...<I>Hispanic female roofers are very rare (I've never seen one.)</I><BR/><BR/>Funny, I saw one week before last. Granted, it was a first. Cute, too. I don't think she got AA though, looked like a family operation.Svigorhttp://majorityrights.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-79166816215891080142009-04-11T10:23:00.000-07:002009-04-11T10:23:00.000-07:00"(I will admit that female firefighters, police, e..."(I will admit that female firefighters, police, etc., would generally NOT be hired if the hiring department simply set out to hire the "best" person for the actual job requirements.)"<BR/><BR/>Well, isn't that magnanimous of you.<BR/><BR/><BR/>"Lots of offices are 80%+ female, so being female doesn't get you anywhere, whereas being a NAM is incredibly helpful."<BR/><BR/>And how did they get to be 80% women there, Susan B. Anthony?<BR/><BR/>"Why would anyone want to be a firefighter in Chicago?<BR/><BR/>Find a smaller municipality without a voluntary force that few people have heard of with few fires and/or modern buildings and go there."<BR/><BR/>I head Vladivostok is nice. Truthfully, whoever you are, it you have ever wondered why you have plateaued in life where you have this statement is a good place to start. People who are good at what they do, for instance, firefighters, don't want to go "where there are few fires." Believe it or not, some of us, in life, want to earn our money.Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-49455003856334491702009-04-10T22:25:00.000-07:002009-04-10T22:25:00.000-07:00Lots of "careers" for women have always just been ...Lots of "careers" for women have always just been jobs that men weren't interested in. For women who are stuck in one of these pink collar ghettoes, or who genuinely enjoy being a telephone operator, kindergarten teacher, nurse, etc., being female is NOT going to get them a promotion or a raise. As I said, I don't doubt that being female boosts a woman's career in the police, the fire department, and lots of other traditionally male fields.<BR/><BR/>I don't think that there is a problem with MY logic. It would be similar if a half dozen Hispanics were trying to be promoted to supervisor at a roofing company. If all the people competing for the position are Hispanic, then being Hispanic doesn't get them anywhere, although in a more diverse environment, being Hispanic would be a huge advantage. Being the only Hispanic FEMALE roofer applying for the job would give you a big edge over the male Hispanics, since Hispanic female roofers are very rare (I've never seen one.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-72302973700903200612009-04-10T21:25:00.000-07:002009-04-10T21:25:00.000-07:00[...]Lots of offices are 80%+ female, so being fem...<I>[...]Lots of offices are 80%+ female, so being female doesn't get you anywhere[...]</I><BR/><BR/>Female logic?<BR/><BR/>Trust me, that's already a hellish workplace for some, brown or no.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-70662850298936637132009-04-10T19:52:00.000-07:002009-04-10T19:52:00.000-07:00Correction in earlier post: "new" s/b "news". Thee...Correction in earlier post: "new" s/b "news". Theenk you.Davidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-15212814925816048962009-04-10T14:30:00.000-07:002009-04-10T14:30:00.000-07:00Bill, my point was that if "everybody" at the work...Bill, my point was that if "everybody" at the workplace is "entitled to AA" then AA is meaningless. Many office environments offer crummy wages and crummy working conditions. Men won't touch these jobs with a stick, so the offices fill up with women. And in an all-woman working environment, all of one's competitor's for raises and promotions will be other women. They may be women of various ethnicities, and you may be kicked to the curb on the basis of being too white, but being female in a world of females will NOT help you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-70820330048013380412009-04-10T09:54:00.000-07:002009-04-10T09:54:00.000-07:00The browner the office, the more likely it is that...<I>The browner the office, the more likely it is that your average workday will be hellish.</I><BR/><BR/>Ain't that the truth.<BR/><BR/>My solution was to move to a much whiter area and start an under-the-table business.<BR/><BR/>Was hired to be noontime new director of a major market station. The next day, the offer was rescinded because of threats to sue by an AA hire of "too many whites behind the camera." That was almost 20 years ago.<BR/><BR/>Frankly, a complete bloody revolution breaking out wouldn't cause me to shed a tear.<BR/><BR/>The United States is going to get what it deserves: collapse. But a few billionaires will escape it, and skip off to Brazil, Israel, Hong Kong, or anywhere with a walled city and a purchasible local constabulary.Davidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-32533175477299340472009-04-09T23:06:00.000-07:002009-04-09T23:06:00.000-07:00Anonymous[...]Lots of offices are 80%+ female, so ...<I>Anonymous<BR/><BR/>[...]Lots of offices are 80%+ female, so being female doesn't get you anywhere[...]</I><BR/><BR/>Uh...<BR/><BR/>No comment, I guess.Billhttp://www.welmer.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-71695583514226003492009-04-09T21:59:00.000-07:002009-04-09T21:59:00.000-07:00From the piece referenced by T99 and Ronduck:The D...From the piece referenced by T99 and Ronduck:<BR/><BR/><I>The Democratic obsession with the down-home, blue-collar, white male voter, that heartbreaker who crossed the aisle to the Republicans many decades ago, may finally be coming to a <B>merciful end</B>.</I><BR/><BR/>Merciful eh? So which WASPy elitist wrote the article - why that would be <A HREF="http://www.umbc.edu/window/photos/tschaller.jpg" REL="nofollow">Thomas F. Schaller</A>!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-90078955392465014742009-04-09T21:49:00.000-07:002009-04-09T21:49:00.000-07:00You only need a handful of whites at each button t...<I>You only need a handful of whites at each button to keep the system ticking. For PC purposes these are then hidden in the backroom so blacks and liberals can feel good about themselves.</I> - Headache<BR/><BR/>Worst case scenario; a minimum number of whites are maintained as a specialist technocratic slave class (isnt this a bit like what happened in the Ottoman empire?)- as long as they understand they can have no political power and cannot be tolerated as rulers.<BR/><BR/>How far fetched is this? Well, wherever whites are a minority its made quite clear at a fundamental moral level that they can have no power - after all its not fair for a minority to dominate the majority. Who could argue with that?<BR/><BR/>The only exception is where whites are a majority, then they must concede some political power - after all its not fair for a majority to dominate minorities. Presumably they must keep conceding power until they are a minority, at which point its only proper they have none at all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-46646294434126539132009-04-09T20:04:00.000-07:002009-04-09T20:04:00.000-07:00Why would anyone want to be a firefighter in Chica...Why would anyone want to be a firefighter in Chicago?<BR/><BR/>Find a smaller municipality without a voluntary force that few people have heard of with few fires and/or modern buildings and go there.anony-mousenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-70717415047019851672009-04-09T19:24:00.000-07:002009-04-09T19:24:00.000-07:00Let the NAMs take over the fire departments and it...<I>Let the NAMs take over the fire departments and it's mostly themselves and a few insurance companies who will really suffer.</I><BR/><BR/>Yeah, because insurance isn't a way of socializing costs or anything.Svigorhttp://majorityrights.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-29272377675927675492009-04-09T19:16:00.000-07:002009-04-09T19:16:00.000-07:00New Haven is where Yale University is located, is ...<I>New Haven is where Yale University is located, is it not? I for one think that New Haven should have an exclusively all-black fire-department.</I><BR/><BR/>Ahahahaha! A man after my own heart.Svigorhttp://majorityrights.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-14842211382245159922009-04-09T19:06:00.000-07:002009-04-09T19:06:00.000-07:00Many people who post on this blog seem to think th...Many people who post on this blog seem to think that most white women like Affirmative Action because they benefit from it. This just isn't true, at least in the office settings in which I have been employed. (I will admit that female firefighters, police, etc., would generally NOT be hired if the hiring department simply set out to hire the "best" person for the actual job requirements.)<BR/><BR/>I worked for the government for a few years -- white people had to quietly and cheerfully do the brainwork for everybody, without expecting raises or promotions based on superior performance. White people also care more about meeting deadlines than NAMs. In fact, NAMs often get help from the white people in the office with resume-writing, etc., so that they can get even better AA jobs and promotions. Lots of offices are 80%+ female, so being female doesn't get you anywhere, whereas being a NAM is incredibly helpful. <BR/><BR/>In addition, nearly every office has an office sociopath or two. These people know NOT to pick on a minority, and are usually too cowardly to pick on a male. They always choose one or more of the white women as their preferred victim. For a white female, the browner the office, the more likely it is that your average workday will be hellish. Don't assume that white women don't understand and resent Affirmative Action.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-13966621305434588092009-04-09T17:58:00.000-07:002009-04-09T17:58:00.000-07:00Males may vote for Democrats, but NOT men.And I'm ...Males may vote for Democrats, but NOT men.<BR/><BR/>And I'm old enough to remember when some Democrats could actually be called statesmen with a straight face.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-53474583734858495382009-04-09T13:02:00.000-07:002009-04-09T13:02:00.000-07:00Wow, testing99 you have some good material. I goog...Wow, testing99 you have some good material. I googled the article you mentioned entitled <A HREF="http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2007/09/17/white_man/" REL="nofollow">So long, White boy</A><BR/><BR/>Here are a few excerpts:<BR/><BR/>(snip)<BR/><I>But the underlying reason may be demographics. In 1952, according to calculations performed by Emory University political scientist Alan Abramowitz for Salon, white males were nearly half the American electorate. Thanks to the recent growth in the Latino population, however, the white male share is now dropping about a percentage point a year, accelerating a decline that began with the increased enfranchisement of African-Americans in the civil rights era. <B>In next year's election, white males may account for fewer than one out of three voters</B>.</I><BR/><BR/>(snip)<BR/><BR/><I>Tens of millions of white men still vote Democratic, of course, and not just Prius drivers, eggheads, grunge-band leaders or Warren Beatty's Hollywood buddies. Most notably, working-class white men who are current or retired union members cast their votes for Democrats, in the stubborn belief that only Democrats will protect and promote their economic interests. "The 2004 CNN exit poll data shows that [John] Kerry lost white males by 31 points if they weren't in a union, but won them by seven points if they were -- a 38-point difference," says Mike Podhorzer, deputy political director of the AFL-CIO. "It's no accident -- union members understand that their votes make a difference, for their wages, their healthcare and their pensions. If, as they say, 'there's something the matter with Kansas,' there's nothing the matter with union members."</I><BR/><BR/>Union members have had their votes purchased with money stolen from their employers. <BR/><BR/>Maybe FDR will have the last laugh.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-84231527733559576012009-04-09T09:10:00.000-07:002009-04-09T09:10:00.000-07:00Although I disagree with what the NHFD did, isn't ...<I> Although I disagree with what the NHFD did, isn't this merely a case of the government having to act as the defense in this case? Someone has to represent the government in the law suit, right?</I><BR/><BR/>Well, the government doesn't have to fight it. They can always capitulate. For example, after the NRA sued all the handgun banning areas in the country last year, most of them changed their laws instead of fighting the case in court.Sidewaysnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-84917652957277385112009-04-09T06:54:00.000-07:002009-04-09T06:54:00.000-07:00Although I disagree with what the NHFD did, isn't ...Although I disagree with what the NHFD did, isn't this merely a case of the government having to act as the defense in this case? Someone has to represent the government in the law suit, right?outlaw josey walesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-8420524653263822822009-04-09T06:40:00.000-07:002009-04-09T06:40:00.000-07:00Lugash, the reason why most women(White women) are...Lugash, the reason why most women(White women) are "at ease with it", is because women, specifically white women, are one of the main beneficiaries of affirmative action programs. <BR/>Affirmative action programs don't just break people down by race, they break them down by gender as well. That's why many occupations that require a certain level of physical ability(See: Size & Strength), such as police officers, fire fighters, ect, set the physical standards that women need to meet to be eligible considerably lower, so as to make the occupation more appealing and more attainable to women.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-22237429399119656312009-04-09T02:50:00.000-07:002009-04-09T02:50:00.000-07:00AA can be defeated in the US. Even in South Africa...AA can be defeated in the US. Even in South Africa, where the AA regime has been much more harmful to whites than in the US, cracks are appearing. The country is not functioning anymore, so the black government is forced to take in a quorum of whites to get things moving again. Some departments are even hiring against official policy. <BR/><BR/>You only need a handful of whites at each button to keep the system ticking. For PC purposes these are then hidden in the backroom so blacks and liberals can feel good about themselves.<BR/><BR/>I'm sure that if whites in the US force the issue they can overcome it. As Steve points out, the greatest opposition to the end of AA comes from liberal and wealthy whites, not blacks. Its the same in South Africa.headachenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-33362011110250249742009-04-09T01:00:00.000-07:002009-04-09T01:00:00.000-07:00Dennis Dale I want whatever drugs you are taking.O...Dennis Dale I want whatever drugs you are taking.<BR/><BR/>Obama his entire life has benefited (as has his wife and Holder) from Affirmative Action and the whole idea of his electoral coalition is to EXPAND AA so that it wipes out the "White Boy" class (as in the Democratic Paper entitled "So Long White Boy").<BR/><BR/>Obama WON on that strategy. Women support AA because they both benefit and don't find penalty. Most women are single, and don't have kids. So their primary motive is to remove competitors from the workplace: White Men. Whom the younger ones despise anyway.<BR/><BR/>This is reality. AA is going to be pushed hard because Obama's electoral coalition depends on it. Elite White Yuppie SWPL depend on it to block upward mobility that is threatening. Blacks, Hispanics and Women depend on it for promotion and hiring.<BR/><BR/>About 82% of the firing has been male. Or put it another way, only 18% of those fired in layoffs were women.<BR/><BR/>What does that tell you?<BR/><BR/>White men are disposable because they are the ENEMIES of the Obama Electoral Coalition.testing99noreply@blogger.com