tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post2438706605513413963..comments2024-03-28T16:22:14.888-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: The War on Pattern RecognitionUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger64125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-63482813617205370462010-10-28T18:00:23.948-07:002010-10-28T18:00:23.948-07:00McVeigh was a science-worshiping atheist and anti-...McVeigh was a science-worshiping atheist and anti-racist, and member of no militia.<br /><br />But depending on who wins, in a hundred years, he might very well become a racist Christian militia-member.Svigorhttp://majorityrights.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-3640625898124269062010-10-28T17:58:14.915-07:002010-10-28T17:58:14.915-07:00I can't even point out by way of analogy that ...I can't even point out by way of analogy that no, Anne Frank (and her entire extended family, for that matter) didn't die by execution, just as McVeigh was not a Christian (a science-worshiping atheist, actually), not a white nationalist (an avowed anti-racist with race-mixing best friends, actually), not a militia member (they knew he was bad news and refused to accept him)?<br /><br />Loosen up a bit.Svigorhttp://majorityrights.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-40392631528513391362010-10-28T17:46:03.949-07:002010-10-28T17:46:03.949-07:00Notice how I made some pretty bold claims here, an...Notice how I made some pretty bold claims here, and no one's challenged me on them? I'd honestly like to test my hypothesis and find a few things I couldn't deconstruct. It's totally possible I'm full of it.<br /><br />But it's also possible that people intuitively sense I'm right, that it's easy to lawyer your way past an argument. It's certainly been my experience that there's no "beating" a lawyer, except by pointing out we aren't in a courtroom.Svigorhttp://majorityrights.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-4638884536356303852010-10-28T05:20:26.845-07:002010-10-28T05:20:26.845-07:00"You mean like the African Bantus wiped out t..."You mean like the African Bantus wiped out the African San as they expanded through that continent? Yeah, I think I follow."<br /><br />This point has been brought up many times here, and there is no evidence, that I'm aware of of any large-scale violent displacement anywhere in Africa. If you know of a mass gravesite please paste a link. Gotta catch a plane, later.Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-82632401501134395872010-10-27T20:44:24.753-07:002010-10-27T20:44:24.753-07:00I agree. But we're not talking about war, we&#...<i>I agree. But we're not talking about war, we're talking about whites killing off entire groups of innocent people who had no desire to go to war with them.<br /></i><br /><br />You mean like the African Bantus wiped out the African San as they expanded through that continent? Yeah, I think I follow.<br /><br />Or perhaps you meant "killed off" figuratively, as in "transformed the way of life of," you know, the way the Arabian hordes swept through the near east and north africa, turning upside down the lives of centuries old (and, in a broad/loose sense, "white" to boot! take that!) christian civilizations. Again, I think I follow.Silvernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-14009260346565897432010-10-27T17:20:02.563-07:002010-10-27T17:20:02.563-07:00>I thought the whole purpose was to villity whi...>I thought the whole purpose was to villity whites. If that is true, why wouldn't htey have lightened a picture of Atta to make him look WASPy?<<br /><br />They did. And darkened the McVeigh picture. Thus they impugned whites by implying that the incidence of terrorists in both peoples is equal.<br /><br />>The 250,000 - 1,000,000 Iraqi citizens killed by US soldiers were basically "touring a military base."<<br /><br />You're equivocating, but that's clever nevertheless.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-2690799343515676502010-10-27T13:32:08.129-07:002010-10-27T13:32:08.129-07:00Oh, come on Svigor; you know that white people hav...<i>Oh, come on Svigor; you know that white people have been recruiting, and basically begging others to come for 45 years.</i><br /><br />Not to put too fine a point on it, but "our" elite (same group doing the recruiting and begging) has also just as loudly been blaming large swathes (if not the majority) of white Americans of systemic, pernicious racism against and exploitation of non-whites. Shouldn't the invitees find two brain cells to rub together, add 2 and 2, and come to the conclusion that "our" elite are nutjobs?<br /><br />Who invites 100 lb women into broom closets with violent misogynists? Throws puppies into cages with violent dog-haters? Homosexuals and violent "homophobes"?<br /><br />Seems like 2+2 suggests "our" elite want to harm non-whites - not the kind of party smart people attend.Svigorhttp://majorityrights.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-73607610584258257852010-10-27T13:24:19.355-07:002010-10-27T13:24:19.355-07:00And I'm not trying to prove anything. Just sta...<i>And I'm not trying to prove anything. Just stating the facts. Last week, for example, a vietnamese child in my town was molested by a white pedophile. Or how about the guy who flew to Haiti and sexually abused underaged boys in exhchange for money, food and schooling? Would it be "reasonable" for me, in considering the fact that whites are more likely to do this sort of thing, to hate whites or discriminate against them?</i><br /><br />I notice you didn't mention if the Vietnamese child is a boy or a girl. If the former, maybe you should be profiling homosexual males.Svigorhttp://majorityrights.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-11909875999029427932010-10-27T10:43:59.469-07:002010-10-27T10:43:59.469-07:00"All the groups you mention should indeed run..."All the groups you mention should indeed run away from whites as fast as their vulnerable little legs can carry them. Strangely, the opposite seems to be happening."<br /><br />Oh, come on Svigor; you know that white people have been recruiting, and basically begging others to come for 45 years.Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-24157862406942985122010-10-27T10:38:30.895-07:002010-10-27T10:38:30.895-07:00"You are trying to prove that you'd be at..."You are trying to prove that you'd be at greater peril touring a military base than an urban black ghetto."<br /><br />The 250,000 - 1,000,000 Iraqi citizens killed by US soldiers were basically "touring a military base."Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-11136745951628922752010-10-27T10:36:20.408-07:002010-10-27T10:36:20.408-07:00"Anonymous said..."Nice how Slate used a..."Anonymous said..."Nice how Slate used a darkened photo of McVeigh (his hair was actually dark blond and his eyes were blue) and a picture of Atta taken with a close flash that bleaches him out to try to show their similarities."<br /><br />I thought the whole purpose was to villity whites. If that is true, why wouldn't htey have lightened a picture of Atta to make him look WASPy?Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-27020878558105167762010-10-27T08:58:24.626-07:002010-10-27T08:58:24.626-07:00Svigor said..."Censorship, Marlo? Steve was p...Svigor said..."Censorship, Marlo? Steve was probably trying to protect you from yourself."<br /><br />Only full-body armor and a lobotomy could do that. <br /><br />As to censorship, I'm less ruffled by Marlo's knee-jerk anti-white stance than I am by the incredibly idiotic assertions she makes to bolster it. I really do think we should be spared that sort of thing.Kylienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-81631125277925908982010-10-27T08:34:41.774-07:002010-10-27T08:34:41.774-07:00I agree. But we're not talking about war, we&#...<i>I agree. But we're not talking about war, we're talking about whites killing off entire groups of innocent people who had no desire to go to war with them.</i><br /><br />All the groups you mention should indeed run away from whites as fast as their vulnerable little legs can carry them. Strangely, the opposite seems to be happening.Svigorhttp://majorityrights.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-57431083365349185452010-10-27T08:31:49.621-07:002010-10-27T08:31:49.621-07:00Take away the blacks and we'd get our cities b...<i>Take away the blacks and we'd get our cities back and the criminality would about on par with that of Europe</i><br /><br />If you throw a correction for population density, maybe. Otherwise we'd probably have less criminality (though the right to bear arms would complicate things).Svigorhttp://majorityrights.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-54448606800230079872010-10-27T08:09:11.919-07:002010-10-27T08:09:11.919-07:00RKU said
>In fact, I've seen 2,945 TV docu...RKU said<br /><br />>In fact, I've seen 2,945 TV documentaries and Hollywood movies on all of those vile movements<<br /><br />That's your problem. You're unfamiliar with the real world. If you weren't, you would know what Islam means and is.<br /><br />>Wonder if "David"'s full name is "David Horowitz"...<<br /><br />I am not a Jew.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-56848478487976555812010-10-26T21:29:05.709-07:002010-10-26T21:29:05.709-07:00Svigor:"Censorship, Marlo? Steve was probably...Svigor:"Censorship, Marlo? Steve was probably trying to protect you from yourself."<br /><br />Nah, I'm pretty sure he censored me because of the content. He may have percieved my comment to be anti-white. Other frequent commenters, including some white power types, have complained about censorship too.<br /><br />The Anti-Gnostic: "You seem confused about absolute and relative numbers."<br /><br />Actually, I'm not confused :) I know what relative means. Do you? I know that relative to other groups, whites are more likely to molest children. Does this fact make it reasonable to be nervous around whites? Better yet, does this fact warrant discrimination against whites? <br /><br />"The point to take away is that one should avoid going to war with whites."<br /><br />I agree. But we're not talking about war, we're talking about whites killing off entire groups of innocent people who had no desire to go to war with them.<br /><br />And I'm not trying to prove anything. Just stating the facts. Last week, for example, a vietnamese child in my town was molested by a white pedophile. Or how about the guy who flew to Haiti and sexually abused underaged boys in exhchange for money, food and schooling? Would it be "reasonable" for me, in considering the fact that whites are more likely to do this sort of thing, to hate whites or discriminate against them?Marlonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-27545445494691247632010-10-26T20:26:29.860-07:002010-10-26T20:26:29.860-07:00Debated a guy once in a psychology class. He insis...Debated a guy once in a psychology class. He insisted that young black men were arrested and convicted at rates far beyond whites due to racism. It was all due to racism. No, they did not commit more crime the victims were all coerced into false statements by police. <br /><br />Having been a police officer I was understandably a little miffed at the gentleman. I did not tell him I was a cop though, I wanted to see how far off the truth he would go. He made broad generalizations about all cops saying that <i>every</i> white cop was part of some 'Plan' (you could hear the capital letter).<br /><br />I knew half way through his second long winded diatribe we would never agree. I invited him to put his money where his mouth was and volunteer as a therapeutic foster home for those misguided youth that would otherwise be sent to an institution. For some reason, he declined.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-77962233571159341222010-10-26T18:47:10.018-07:002010-10-26T18:47:10.018-07:00Now that's a pretty small fraction, so people ...<i>Now that's a pretty small fraction, so people who get nervous around Muslim "potential terrorists" are the same sort of people who are too scared to go outside on a clear day for fear of being hit by lightning.</i><br /><br />You're right. "Potential terrorism" is by far the weakest reason to feel uneasy around muslims. I can think of plenty of much better reasons,like: they're a wholly disagreeable, arrogant and antagonistic bunch of people to be around, thus being around them detracts markedly from one's quality of life; therefore the sight of one or a few of them makes one "nervous" in the sense of being reminded of an important factor that decreases quality of life for Americans (Canadians, Britons, etc). <br /><br />All this would be too obvious for words were it not for the fact that (white) liberals freak out because someone who admits to being uneasy around one identifiable group of people is likely to also feel uneasy around the group that occupies pride of place in the hierarchy of liberal sainthood: blacks. (Jews of course have their own reasons for freaking out, since everyone knows that being critical or skeptical of jews <i>definitely</i> means -- no two ways about it -- you want to kill every last one of them.)Silvernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-18276275332343871142010-10-26T18:20:49.084-07:002010-10-26T18:20:49.084-07:00"RKU said...
Well, another useful compar..."RKU said...<br /><br /> Well, another useful comparison is that the percentage of American white gentiles who are neonazis is vastly larger than the percentage of American Muslims who are terrorists."<br /><br />Completely false. How many neonazis have have you ever met? How many murders have been committed by neo-nazis in this country, and how many have they killed? Anyway. probably one out of every four neo-nazis or klansman is a government informant. And it's not just terrorism that's the problem - it is there will, upon which the act, to turn our lands into places of thier liking, not ours.Mr. Anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-41259533939875727512010-10-26T16:49:01.067-07:002010-10-26T16:49:01.067-07:00It'd take a better statistician than me to wor...It'd take a better statistician than me to work this out, but, just brainstorming, here's a rough sketch:<br /><br />Out of the 5,000,000 Muslims in America, a small number N are terrorists.<br /><br />Out of the 500,000 young Muslim males in America, the same small number N are terrorists. (cf. Out of the 500,000 elderly Muslim females in America, zero are terrorists.)<br /><br />Out of the 5,000 young Muslim males in an American airport at any given moment, a slightly smaller number N' are terrorists.<br /><br />Out of the 100 young Muslim males in an American airport at any given moment, with a scary look in their eyes and traveling alone or in a small group of Muslim males with scary looks in their eyes, a slightly smaller number N'' are terrorists.<br /><br />What's the percentage now? <br />Is N''/100 >> N/5,000,000?<br /><br />At some point the percentage shifts from negligible to non-negligible, and Juan Williams' concern shifts from ridiculous overreaction to not-quite-so-ridiculous.<br /><br />-OverreactorAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-54610057561590674952010-10-26T16:10:37.824-07:002010-10-26T16:10:37.824-07:00Marlo -
In terms of absolute numbers of people wh...Marlo -<br /><br /><i>In terms of absolute numbers of people who committ violent crimes blacks and whites are about equally violent.</i><br /><br />You seem confused about absolute and relative numbers. The fact that six percent of the US population accounts for fifty percent of its violent crime is nothing short of astounding. Historically, any minority group that restive would simply not be tolerated.<br /><br /><i>So, if it's reasonable to be nervous among blacks, then it's perfectly reasonable to be nervous around whites--who have a history of killing off entire groups of people (think of the millions of Native Americans who died at the hands of whites, the millions of Africans who died during slavery, Jews...)</i><br /><br />The point to take away is that one should avoid going to war with whites. You are trying to prove that you'd be at greater peril touring a military base than an urban black ghetto. Why don't you test your hypothesis?The Anti-Gnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04386593803225823789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-59784111171681030602010-10-26T16:00:13.494-07:002010-10-26T16:00:13.494-07:00The article also mistakenly states that Timothy Mc...<i>The article also mistakenly states that Timothy McVeigh was a Christian. He wasn't.<br /><br /></i><br /><br />They've been corrected often enough on that error that we can safely assume they're just repeating that lie often enough to make it the truth.PRCalDudehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04536108855155262530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-58079237625777532992010-10-26T15:07:44.149-07:002010-10-26T15:07:44.149-07:00I think that in explaining this to younger people,...I think that in explaining this to younger people, it would be helpful to point that the War on APM is a phenomenon of the older boomers. That is to say, people under 45 who buy into this b.s. are just validating a project dreampt up by oldsters, something they'd ordinarily instinctively reject. Man, I can remember the pressure high school teachers put us under in the early '70's to avoid "stereotypes." The idea, of course, was that Jim Crow had caused black people to act in ways that would eventually disappear through gradual immersion into the larger culture. The failure of that assumption means that the verbal adepts' chief claim to sophistication turned out to be a crock, and so now they're redoubling their efforts in other contexts. C'mon kids, those gray ponytails don't know shit.alonzo portfolionoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-27187070172077949222010-10-26T15:04:07.054-07:002010-10-26T15:04:07.054-07:00Censorship, Marlo? Steve was probably trying to p...Censorship, Marlo? Steve was probably trying to protect you from yourself.Svigorhttp://majorityrights.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-69742919635787989552010-10-26T14:51:30.995-07:002010-10-26T14:51:30.995-07:00Given that most incidents of drunk driving don'...<i>Given that most incidents of drunk driving don't result in traffic accidents, and most traffic accidents are not caused by drunk driving, isn't it time law enforcement called off the entirely irrational harrassment and discriminatory profiling of intoxicated drivers.<br /><br />--Lindsey Lohan's Lawyer</i><br /><br />Black Sea gets it. But let's really apply the logic and point out that, since there's no bright line between a sober driver and a drunk one, drunk drivers do not exist.Svigorhttp://majorityrights.comnoreply@blogger.com