tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post2456292143605987454..comments2024-03-28T16:22:14.888-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: So, how's this McCain guy working out, anyway?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger58125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-23309070411086540472008-10-21T13:40:00.000-07:002008-10-21T13:40:00.000-07:00blode:The revisions/extensions to the Patriot Act,...blode:<BR/><BR/>The revisions/extensions to the Patriot Act, not the original--he wasn't in the Senate then, so couldn't have voted for it. Though Obama also supported/voted for the telecom immunity bill, whose main purpose seems to be preventing the full scope and nature of post-9/11 domestic spying from being discovered. <BR/><BR/>And in general, the Democrats talk a good game about being pro-civil-liberties, but they've been only marginally less enthusiastic than the Republicans about tossing out all those inconvenient things like privacy and individual rights and presumption of innocence, "for the duration" of an endless war on terror. <BR/><BR/>But here's my guess about why so many libertarians (David Friedman, Tyler Cowan, etc.) lean toward Obama: The Republicans under Bush have expanded the size, scope, and power of government as quickly as they could. They've been the primary guys pushing police state measures at home and endless war overseas. Maybe a lot of those guys figure that the Democrats are unlikely to be worse. That's my bet, to be honest--compared to the amazing mixture of incompetence and nastiness of the Bush administration, it will be a good long time before I vote for another Republican. Though I have faith that, once they get into power, the Democrats will be working day and night to bring that day closer with their own mixture of incompetence and evil.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-60800847073836445532008-10-21T10:11:00.000-07:002008-10-21T10:11:00.000-07:00"Unless there was a vote for the Patriot Act in th..."Unless there was a vote for the Patriot Act in the Illinois legislature, too, I'm pretty sure Obama didn't vote for it."<BR/><BR/>I'm not prepared to let this drop quite yet, because I'm curious. How many Obama supporters do you think are unaware of this? <BR/><BR/>I'm convinced that he's being <I>mistaken</I> for a leftist statist, like Ralph Nader or Cynthia McKinney. Those two can't stand the Patriot Act; they're classic dovish social-democrat types in the mould of McGovern and whatnot. Those people I can live with because they're only out to screw the country with statism in one way.<BR/><BR/>Obama, on the other hand, never met a way of messing with American lives he didn't like. This makes more of a an all-purpose statist than a leftist statist. This must be why all the libertarians like Andrew Sullivan and Charles Murray don't like him. Wait - apparently they do like him after all.<BR/><BR/>Must be because of his nice speaking voice.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-21562122586109767132008-10-21T08:46:00.000-07:002008-10-21T08:46:00.000-07:00Just for the record, I'm not a creator of The Blod...Just for the record, I'm not a creator of The Blode, I'm just a fan. <BR/> - iSteve's Friendly Neighborhood BlodeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-90823479195854486782008-10-20T21:17:00.000-07:002008-10-20T21:17:00.000-07:00Harmless Kook, could you rephrase? I really don't ...Harmless Kook, could you rephrase? I really don't know what you meant. I don't mind being mocked, I just meant it's a shame that people think McCain is a conservative.<BR/><BR/>LOL. Totally missed the reference. Also, if you are the creator of Blode, we might be distant relations. But trust me, you don't want to know for sure.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-78861404014746332162008-10-20T18:42:00.000-07:002008-10-20T18:42:00.000-07:00The first rule of politics is, don't take advice f...The first rule of politics is, don't take advice from the enemy. <BR/><BR/>Considering that it is widely recognized that mainstream journalists are the enemy, it is surprising how many conservatives are willing to take their advice.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-81149346116628233172008-10-20T17:56:00.000-07:002008-10-20T17:56:00.000-07:00Ive been reading a bit about the USS Forrestal fir...Ive been reading a bit about the USS Forrestal fire. Judging by Wikipedia and other sites, a wet-start by McAmnesty (no, Im no fan) doesnt seem to be a part of the story at all.<BR/><BR/>In fact it sounds a bit unlikely just on the face of it.<BR/><BR/>Would you park a heavily armed/fueled aircraft right behind a jet exhaust, wet-start or not? Im not even a pilot or a sailor but I wouldnt like to try that.<BR/><BR/>Accounts place McAmnesty's A-4 on the deck edge and as you would expect the exhaust is directed out to sea.<BR/><BR/>This handy <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:CVA-59_fire_aft_deck_plan.png" REL="nofollow">pic </A>on wikipedia shows the story.<BR/><BR/>A rocket fired from one of the F-4s on the left (circled red) hit A-4, nose no.405, or 416 (McAmnesty's a/c) and the fire started from there. If the graphic is correct there is clearly no way for the exhaust from the A-4 to have ignited any munition on the Phantom across the deck.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-84512329466181078712008-10-20T15:51:00.000-07:002008-10-20T15:51:00.000-07:00It's well known outside the right-wing echo chambe...It's well known outside the right-wing echo chamber that this quote is false:<BR/><BR/>"I don't regret setting bombs. I feel we didn't do enough."<BR/><BR/>Ayers has clearly stated that he did not say that he did not set enough bombs.<BR/><BR/>Obviously, Ayers was a right-wing nut who felt that freedom isn't free and that the only language the terrorists understand is violence. I'm glad he's reformed himself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-10286694500668084772008-10-20T14:54:00.000-07:002008-10-20T14:54:00.000-07:00Harmless Kook, could you rephrase? I really don't...Harmless Kook, could you rephrase? I really don't know what you meant. I don't mind being mocked, I just meant it's a shame that people think McCain is a conservative.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-83781468692059848512008-10-20T14:50:00.000-07:002008-10-20T14:50:00.000-07:00"Blode:Unless there was a vote for the Patriot Act..."Blode:<BR/><BR/>Unless there was a vote for the Patriot Act in the Illinois legislature, too, I'm pretty sure Obama didn't vote for it." - <B>none of the above</B><BR/><BR/>Why don't you <A HREF="http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=2&vote=00029" REL="nofollow">look</A> <A HREF="http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Barack_Obama_Homeland_Security.htm" REL="nofollow">it</A> <A HREF="http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c109:H.R.3199:" REL="nofollow">up</A>?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-75897538690882609342008-10-20T11:53:00.000-07:002008-10-20T11:53:00.000-07:00Steve-o, this election is in the bag.Of course, fi...Steve-o, this election is in the bag.<BR/><BR/>Of course, first you have to get past the jerky movements, the drooping left eye, the scar tissue from numerous surgeries, the lack of height, the flaking skin, the wispy hair. <BR/><BR/>Then we just have to work thru the jarringly more youthful wife, the pained facial expressions, the pettiness, the codger-ish attitude, the incoherent thinking. Again, nothing a good consultant can't deal with.<BR/><BR/>After that, it's just a matter of messaging people past Campaign Finance Reform, Immigration Reform, a long history of contempt for Old Right values, and eight years of disastrous Republican governance. <BR/><BR/>But really, once you deal with all that, I mean, there is just no way this guy can lose.<BR/><BR/>--Senor DougAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-86542741739729222052008-10-20T01:23:00.000-07:002008-10-20T01:23:00.000-07:00Better question Steve, how well is Palin working o...<I>Better question Steve, how well is Palin working out? That in-the-flesh Annie Oakley folkhero, that Capraesque champion of real Americans, the political reformer that was going to turn around this campaign and bring full-throated conservatism to the forefront of the national scene, single-handedly defeating amnesty and sealing off our borders (and in godless's specific variant of this unhinged optimism, securing the future of HBD science)...</I><BR/><BR/>This comment is so good it's a shame it's anonymous.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-40872054784238118592008-10-20T00:28:00.000-07:002008-10-20T00:28:00.000-07:00Hey, but on the bright side, his choice for VP did...Hey, but on the bright side, his choice for VP did show the nation she is ready to be taken seriously by important and powerful world leaders around the globe!<BR/><BR/>http://www.break.com/index/ridiculous<BR/>-and-funny-sarah-palin-rap.htmlTruthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-10136161102949718212008-10-20T00:23:00.000-07:002008-10-20T00:23:00.000-07:00"The media... They invariably support the most pro..."The media... They invariably support the most progressive candidate."<BR/><BR/>The media are backing Ralph Nader?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-83738277637155356392008-10-20T00:07:00.000-07:002008-10-20T00:07:00.000-07:00"Obama wouldn't bring up the claim that McCain was..."Obama wouldn't bring up the claim that McCain was responsible for that disaster unless he had ironclad proof"<BR/><BR/>No, that's the way it SHOULD work amongst gentlemen. Maybe you were not around during the Navy Swift Boat campaign 4 years ago.<BR/><BR/>"3- McCain has been repeatedly commended for his behaviour as a POW by the only people who count: his fellow POWs.<BR/><BR/>Yeah, but strangely enough they each had the same quote:<BR/><BR/>“John McCain is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life...”<BR/><BR/>"and slimey smear merchants such as "truth".<BR/><BR/>I know you are, but what am I?<BR/><BR/>"That being said, I don't believe 9/11 was allowed to happen."<BR/><BR/>I don't either, I believe that Osama Bin Laden forced the entire US Air Force to stand down while a 747 went 1200 miles off course and flew headfirst into the Pentagon, from a cave in Afghanistan. <BR/><BR/>Finally someone on this forum agrees with me.Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-80399578190259970552008-10-19T21:18:00.000-07:002008-10-19T21:18:00.000-07:00"Face it, righties (that's all of you - Russel Kir..."Face it, righties (that's all of you - Russel Kirkers, John Birchers, AJN / Rothbardians, Randians) - elections are worthless to you as long as you don't control a decent-sized chunk of the media. Period. This election will be portrayed as "left versus right" with "the right" taking a thorough drubbing. The failure of a guy you don't like will be used to mock you." - blode<BR/><BR/>If you're implying that we will be viewed somewhat indulgently as are those who attend comic book conventions dressed as their favorite superheroes, then the consequences of an Obama victory won't be all bad. <BR/><BR/>"Or, as he puts it in Fugitive Days: A Memoir, 'I can't imagine entirely dismissing the possibility.'" - gf on Ayer's homicidal tendencies<BR/><BR/>What position do you think Ayers will hold in the Obama White House?<BR/><BR/>"Also, I think a lot of people have already absorbed the fact that this country is terminally ill. The time will come, possibly in our life-time, when it will fall apart. And a lot of things will be decided by means other than elections." - mr. anon<BR/><BR/>Last time I thought outloud about this, someone attempted to send me to a re-education camp of sorts. I guess he thought I would fare better emotionally if I simply gave in to the PC rhetoric on any number of issues. Still, I'd like to know what the probable results of an Obama presidency would be for the sake of planning. <BR/><BR/>Also, the conspiracy theorist in me can't help believing that McCain was deliberately installed as the Republican nominee with the intent that he would do his best to lose the election. The hoopla surround the Palin pick aside, McCain seems intent on losing or at least on not making any effort to win. I see the mortgage crisis as being linked. People have known for years that this bubble would burst. The overextension of credit in general started a good decade before the subprime mortgages so I can't help thinking that many economists, keynesian or supply-side, had a good idea where this would all lead and let it happen. <BR/><BR/>That being said, I don't believe 9/11 was allowed to happen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-67388188917571007342008-10-19T20:56:00.000-07:002008-10-19T20:56:00.000-07:00"Well Mr. McCain, William Ayers could have been co...<I>"Well Mr. McCain, William Ayers could have been considered a terrorist 25 years ago. He had his day in court and was exonerated.</I><BR/><BR/>He was never exonerated. The evidence was deemed inadmissible because of the illegal methods the FBI employed in gathering it. (This was the era of Hoover and COINTELPRO.) The prosecution was dropped. There was no trial and, therefore, no verdict.<BR/><BR/>In the years since, Ayers has boasted about doing practically everything he was ever accused of doing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-79882612292210344312008-10-19T19:44:00.000-07:002008-10-19T19:44:00.000-07:00Truth, you are an ass.1- The ship was the USS Forr...Truth, you are an ass.<BR/>1- The ship was the USS Forrestal.<BR/>2- McCain was in a A4 Skyhawk and the Zuni rocket that caused the conflagration came from an F4 Phantom. McCain not only did not cause the incident but behaved in a brave and exemplary manner.<BR/>3- McCain has been repeatedly commended for his behaviour as a POW by the only people who count: his fellow POWs.<BR/>4- You didn't even get the number of dead right on the FORRESTAL. It was 134.<BR/>McCain's campaign has not been a good one and he is by far not the best of candidates but he is a far better man than his opponent and slimey smear merchants such as "truth".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-6989766639467109252008-10-19T19:14:00.000-07:002008-10-19T19:14:00.000-07:00The media controlls the country by setting the ter...The media controlls the country by setting the terms of public thought and hence greatly influences elections. They invariably support the most progressive candidate. McCain was the most progressive repub so the media threw their support behind him and he won.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-83656583091170161152008-10-19T18:34:00.000-07:002008-10-19T18:34:00.000-07:00Better question Steve, how well did Palin working ...Better question Steve, how well did Palin working out? That in-the-flesh Annie Oakley folkhero, that Capraesque champion of real Americans, the political reformer that was going to turn around this campaign and bring full-throated conservatism to the forefront of the national scene, single-handedly defeating amnesty and sealing off our borders (and in godless's specific variant of this unhinged optimism, securing the future of HBD science). Yeah, that panned out real, real well. It's stunning how well you could anticipate her dismal performance in this race by the supposition of a just slightly above average IQ, extrapolating from her lousy college academic record. The lack of any prognostication about this on your part is a rather conspicious absence, considering the nature of your site. Are you genuinely without any curiosity about what could well be one of the lowest IQ candidates running for national office in living memory? What this says and confirms about IQ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-59360934099461214912008-10-19T17:33:00.000-07:002008-10-19T17:33:00.000-07:00Blode:Unless there was a vote for the Patriot Act ...Blode:<BR/><BR/>Unless there was a vote for the Patriot Act in the Illinois legislature, too, I'm pretty sure Obama didn't vote for it.<BR/><BR/>Truth:<BR/><BR/>Obama wouldn't bring up the claim that McCain was responsible for that disaster unless he had ironclad proof, and would do himself no good bringing up McCain's captivity. But I'm pretty sure McCain and Obama's teams had analyzed that line of attack pretty deeply before the debate. McCain came out hard enough against Obama to look unambiguously negative, and I don't think that played well. A louder, fiercer attack would have played well with the base, but I'm guessing it wouldn't have done much for anyone still undecided.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-60764386738290599732008-10-19T16:44:00.000-07:002008-10-19T16:44:00.000-07:00"I think he must have been on a debate team once -..."I think he must have been on a debate team once - he argues as if he had been."<BR/><BR/>I was, is that a bad thing?<BR/><BR/>"truth, your post is vile."<BR/><BR/>Politics are a vile game.Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-60424635222137529152008-10-19T13:44:00.000-07:002008-10-19T13:44:00.000-07:00"Anonymous said...truth, ayers has admitted guilt ..."Anonymous said...<BR/><BR/>truth, ayers has admitted guilt and was never "exonerated". quote was "guilty as sin, free as a bird, it's a great country""<BR/><BR/>"Truth" is a fountain of tendentious nonsense. As for example in his last post: he is now blaming McCain for killing 44 soldiers on the Forrestal. In a previous post it was 140 some odd sailors whom he had purportedly killed. Of course, in reality, there are no soldiers on an aircraft carrier anyway. He believes anything of convenience he finds on the internet that he can use as an argument. I think he must have been on a debate team once - he argues as if he had been.<BR/><BR/>"Truth" isn't worth the keystrokes required to refute him. I'd advise ignoring him completely - he may eventually just go away.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-32341748288668957802008-10-19T11:50:00.000-07:002008-10-19T11:50:00.000-07:00Not that I'm a huge McCain homer, but JM (or Hilla...Not that I'm a huge McCain homer, but JM (or Hillary for that matter) could have ended this thing with a 30 second spot featuring the Rev. Wright. <BR/><BR/>Trouble is, I honestly believe the networks, other than FOX News, would refuse to show it.<BR/><BR/>I can still remember the awful Andrea Mitchell melting down when some Republican organizations went of the reservation and ran a few spots featuring the Rev.. Those ads were immediately pulled and some networks refused to air them, if I remember correctly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-34746720026945189672008-10-19T09:30:00.000-07:002008-10-19T09:30:00.000-07:00Something that keeps me awake at night:Baldwin - a...Something that keeps me awake at night:<BR/><BR/>Baldwin - against Patriot Act; ignored by media<BR/>Barr - voted for Patriot Act, now opposes it; ignored by media<BR/>McCain - voted for Patriot Act; fawned over by media until he faced Obama<BR/>McKinney - voted against Patriot Act; ignored by media<BR/>Nader - against Patriot Act; ignored by media<BR/>Obama - voted for Patriot Act; fawned over constantly by media<BR/><BR/>The argument that the four candidates who oppose the Patriot Act deserve to be ignored because they won't win is bogus from a sequence-of-events perspective. First we pay attention to them or ignore them - THEN we go to the polls. <BR/><BR/>The media doesn't have to like the Patriot Act. The media likes big government and the state of anxiety caused by the permanent bureaucratic SNAFU known as the Federal government.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-69701613356741047462008-10-19T09:26:00.000-07:002008-10-19T09:26:00.000-07:00Well, he worked out extremely well in the primarie...<I>Well, he worked out extremely well in the primaries where he beat that nutjob, Mitt Romney.</I><BR/><BR/>Yeah that's Mitt Romney: successful consultant, investor, Olympics CEO, governor - and nutjob.<BR/><BR/>Gee, who would've ever thought that an honorable war veteran would lose out to some guy who never bothered to serve and never even wanted to? I mean it's not like it's already happened like 4 elections in a row.<BR/><BR/><I>I never saw a single McCain sign in Charleston, but tons of Bush ones.</I><BR/><BR/>Even now I've seen maybe 3 McCain bumper stickers this entire election season; ten thousand Obama stickers. I live in the reddest of red states. He'll win the state handily but there is zero enthusiasm for him.<BR/><BR/><I>He's probably running better than Bush 41, Dole or Bush 43 would be under similar circumstances. We already knew he was no Reagan.</I><BR/><BR/>Those 3 weren't running against Obama, and they didn't have a woman like Palin to even choose as a running mate; a woman who, in spite of her weaknesses, has definitely helped the campaign.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com