tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post2486447563439418032..comments2024-03-27T18:24:19.683-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: SmartsUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger71125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-39403517093208872312011-03-03T12:22:00.562-08:002011-03-03T12:22:00.562-08:00"Mix the herders and the farmers, and the soc..."Mix the herders and the farmers, and the society will have both a gun and a bulletproof vest. Hard to stop."<br /><br />OK. Little man.<br /><br />Now explain to me then why WASPs are are minority in their own countries to other whites. And why whites are disappearing asymptotically wrt to world. I guess having a gun & and bulletproof vest makes people arrogant? An arrogance always gets its comeuppance. What say you, genius?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-52664498033761844272011-03-02T10:53:37.776-08:002011-03-02T10:53:37.776-08:00The first three are 'Celtic' (actually Cel...<i>The first three are 'Celtic' (actually Celts have little to do with the British Isles...), but Manning is an English name. Mannings are most common in East Anglia, in particular Suffolk.</i><br /><br />The Mannings are descended from the Mannings of South Carolina (see <a href="http://www.historynet.com/letters-from-readers-september-2007-americas-civil-war.htm" rel="nofollow">here</a>.) There is even a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manning,_South_Carolina" rel="nofollow">Manning, South Carolina</a>. So most likely Peyton's and Eli's family migrated from the North of England (Yorkshire, Lanchshire). Besides I've met their father, Archie. He came across as a real Southern gentlement. I sense no hint of any Anglian/Puritan/Yankee fanaticism in his disposition.travisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-48024227350730606142011-03-02T09:10:02.367-08:002011-03-02T09:10:02.367-08:00I'm guessing James Franco has a higher IQ than...I'm guessing <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Franco" rel="nofollow">James Franco</a> has a higher IQ than Natalie Portman. Unfortanately that didn't translate into being an entertaining Oscar host.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-18852643473995404962011-03-02T08:35:01.426-08:002011-03-02T08:35:01.426-08:00Per Anonymous (well one of us) on Lynn, the German...<i>Per Anonymous (well one of us) on Lynn, the Germans and the Dutch have IQs higher than the east Asians.</i><br /><br />I wonder if that was one of the genetic sources of Ashkenazi Jewish smarts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-13488686087733482392011-03-02T06:12:12.663-08:002011-03-02T06:12:12.663-08:00Does a mean Wonderlic score of 21, roughly equate ...Does a mean Wonderlic score of 21, roughly equate to an IQ of 100? The vast majority of these supposed current college students going to the NFL it that most of them have a Wonderlic under 21. It would be interesting to test non athlete college freshman with there Football playing brethren on this test. I'm sure we get further proof that the student/athlete in NCAA money sports (football, basketball) is a oxymoron.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-58972346067824832652011-03-02T01:03:18.814-08:002011-03-02T01:03:18.814-08:00Winnie Cooper is a bona fide mathemetician.Winnie Cooper is a bona fide mathemetician.Mike Huntnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-41459526055769380602011-03-02T00:54:55.615-08:002011-03-02T00:54:55.615-08:00Charles Murray reports the IQ gap between white an...Charles Murray reports the IQ gap between white and black youth at 14 points.<br /><br />If blacks are 2 SD lower, they'd pretty much never throw and would get sacked a lot. If they did throw, it'd likely be incomplete or an interception almost every time. Almost nonexistent completion percentage. Is that an accurate reflection of how black QBs play? No.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-40154001359477760252011-03-01T21:54:07.979-08:002011-03-01T21:54:07.979-08:00“That's about twice the white-black gap of 14 ...“That's about twice the white-black gap of 14 IQ points (Charles Murray).”<br /><br />You mean the 1.1 S.D. (16.5 point) white-black gap? <br /><br />“I think the test has to be coachable and whites must be studying more, on top of having an advantage on g. Or perhaps learning the Wonderlic material isn't so hard if you have a mean IQ above a certain threshold, which whites exceed much more often than blacks. I sincerely doubt there could be a 2 SD gap between white and blacks QBs. No way.”<br /><br />Do black QBs have a 2 SD athleticism gap in their favor? There is more than one way to have success (at least to a certain point) as an NFL QB. You can be a running QB and win with your legs or a precision passer that picks apart defenses with your mind and hand-eye coordination. Some (e.g., Steve Young, Aaron Rogers) can do both. Perhaps most white QBs reach the NFL based on a different skill set than most black QBs do.<br /><br /><br />“Besides, the 18 point IQ gap between Michael Vick and Marcus Vick seems funny too.”<br /><br />The average gap between two siblings is 11 or 12 points. Half the time the difference is more, half the time less. Remember, siblings only share half their genes on average.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-28777998157882483372011-03-01T20:20:50.220-08:002011-03-01T20:20:50.220-08:00Portman has nice credentials. I'd bet she is p...Portman has nice credentials. I'd bet she is pretty damn smart. That said, she's classically good looking too. That probably helped a lot with the acting career. <br /><br />Same with Dolph Lungren. I believe he was a champion kick-boxer. Good background for an action movie guy. Though in his case it seems like he could have gone farther.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-32811851416803863232011-03-01T20:15:02.670-08:002011-03-01T20:15:02.670-08:00greenrivervalleyman said...
Director Paul Verhoev...<i>greenrivervalleyman said...<br /><br />Director Paul Verhoeven (Show Girls) I think got a doctorate in physics. Didn't Will Smith also briefly go to M.I.T? Even with affirmative action I'd say that's impressive and means he's probably significantly brainier than Obama.</i><br /><br />Half right,<br /><br />Verhoeven received a doctorandus degree (M.Sc) in math and physics from the University of Leiden in the Netherlands. He never used his degree, opting instead to invest his energies in a career in film. <br /><br />While it is widely reported that Smith turned down a scholarship to attend the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT), he never applied to MIT,[9] although he was admitted to a "pre-engineering program" there.[8] According to Smith, "My mother, who worked for the School Board of Philadelphia, had a friend who was the admissions officer at MIT. I had pretty high SAT scores and they needed black kids, so I probably could have gotten in.The Fresh Princenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-63769074326657308412011-03-01T18:16:52.241-08:002011-03-01T18:16:52.241-08:00I suspect anyone with a couple of million dollars ...<i>I suspect anyone with a couple of million dollars lying around from a career as a child actor can get into Harvard.</i><br /><br />Yeah, the Ivy League LOVES movie people. Note how actors, actresses, and the sons and daughters of actors/directors/producers are well represented at Harvard and Yale in particular. The Ivies seem to regard them on a par with the scions of east coast Old Money dynasties.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-75194339305619130452011-03-01T18:12:02.265-08:002011-03-01T18:12:02.265-08:00I crunched the numbers for the NFL'
s starting...I crunched the numbers for the NFL'<br />s starting quarterbacks and here are the stats (based on Wonderlic scores):<br /><br />Mean Quarterback IQ: 116.5<br />Median Quarterback IQ: 116<br /><br />Mean White QB IQ: 119.5<br />Median White QB IQ: 117<br /><br />Mean Black QB IQ: 88.6<br />Median Black QB IQ: 88<br /><br />If we take the medians, whites exceed blacks by 28 IQ points. Almost 2 standard deviations. For means, it's about the same. <br /><br />That's about twice the white-black gap of 14 IQ points (Charles Murray). I think the test has to be coachable and whites must be studying more, on top of having an advantage on g. Or perhaps learning the Wonderlic material isn't so hard if you have a mean IQ above a certain threshold, which whites exceed much more often than blacks. I sincerely doubt there could be a 2 SD gap between white and blacks QBs. No way.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-37818091199502297932011-03-01T18:07:38.034-08:002011-03-01T18:07:38.034-08:00Natalie Portman looks like the kind of woman you f...<i>Natalie Portman looks like the kind of woman you feel you should be turned on by, but you aren't.</i><br /><br />Yeah, even today she still seems more like a kid than a grown woman. I've noticed that the guys who are really into her tend to be either adolescent boys or men who give off a slight pedophilic vibe.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-77874857626435085052011-03-01T17:56:04.709-08:002011-03-01T17:56:04.709-08:00McElroy has a 3.82 GPA in business marketing from ...McElroy has a 3.82 GPA in business marketing from Alabama. He's now mastering in Sports Administration, with a 4.0. <br /><br />Wonderlic can be converted to IQ, but I'm skeptical if it's really an IQ test. Vince Young went from a 6 to a 15, which represents an 18point IQ boost. No way is that possible. The test has got to be highly coachable.<br /><br />Here are some QB IQs based on Wonderlic:<br /><br />Michael Vick - 100 IQ<br />Marcus Vick (Vick's bro) - 82 IQ<br />Steve Young - 126<br />Drew Brees - 116<br />Tom Brady - 126<br />Chad Pennington - 110 <br />Drew Bledsoe - 134<br />Donovan McNabb - 88<br />David Garrard - 88<br />Dan Marino - 92<br />Eli Manning - 138<br />John Elway - 120<br />Brett Favre - 104<br />Ben Roesthlisberger - 110<br />Mark Sanchez - 116<br />Matt Haselbeck - 118<br />Matt Leinart - 130<br />Tony Romo - 134<br />Jarmacu Russel - 108<br /> <br />If you accept Wonderlic as an IQ test, Michael Vick is smarter than the majority of Americans. Jamarcus Russel is a decently bright guy. Eli Manning is above the top 1 percent of Americans. Tom Brady is in the top 4 percent. No way can you be that smart and not have people notice. <br /><br />Besides, the 18 point IQ gap between Michael Vick and Marcus Vick seems funny too.<br /><br />The lowest Wonderlic score this year is about 80 IQ (10). Sounds funny too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-27535096685347318922011-03-01T14:22:07.136-08:002011-03-01T14:22:07.136-08:00"Judging from his posts, Truth's IQ is pr..."Judging from his posts, Truth's IQ is pretty low"<br /><br />So Whiskey, what does that make my "real" IQ?<br /><br />"Get Truth off the topic of race (not easy to do, I know) and he can be quite insightful."<br /><br />Well Kylie, that's actually quite nice of you.Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-78362406343683305972011-03-01T13:58:27.318-08:002011-03-01T13:58:27.318-08:00I'm quite interested in seeing Cam Newton'...<i>I'm quite interested in seeing Cam Newton's Wonderlic score.</i><br /><br />That makes one of you. Personally I think you ought to be more interested in how a guy who scored 16 got into Congress.ehnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-60195568751192750452011-03-01T13:35:07.160-08:002011-03-01T13:35:07.160-08:00Your link gives Ryan Fitzpatrick's Wonderlic s...Your link gives Ryan Fitzpatrick's Wonderlic score as 38, not 48. I wonder how accurate the rest of the list is.Philohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02814125172453918700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-40585628792697850822011-03-01T12:14:54.581-08:002011-03-01T12:14:54.581-08:00Director Paul Verhoeven (Show Girls) I think got a...Director Paul Verhoeven (<i>Show Girls</i>) I think got a doctorate in physics. Didn't Will Smith also briefly go to M.I.T? Even with affirmative action I'd say that's impressive and means he's probably significantly brainier than Obama.greenrivervalleymanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10800061625385072407noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-21839420696845681042011-03-01T12:12:29.004-08:002011-03-01T12:12:29.004-08:00Steve, that wonderlic chart by position dates from...Steve, that wonderlic chart by position dates from the 1980s. Anything been done more recently? <br /><br /><i>Is there any real evidence that quarterbacks need brains?</i><br /><br />There is surely some minimum below which you can't learn the playbook. That aside...<br /><br />Basically wonderlic scores by position seem to measure how white the position is. The highest averages are at kicker and punter, two positions which impose pretty much zero cognitive demands. But they are all-white positions, or nearly.<br /><br />At the opposite extreme, white cornerbacks pretty much don't exist. Speed and athleticism are not optional at cornerback.<br /><br />I think qb remains a majority white position not because of IQ but because black advantages in speed and athleticism aren't so important there. Michael Vick is spectacular to watch and (last year) a terrific quarterback, but he still wasn't as good as Brady or Peyton Manning.keypusherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07176947522040838625noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-58582645578761052882011-03-01T11:20:33.651-08:002011-03-01T11:20:33.651-08:00"McElroy, Fitzpatrick, McInally, Manning, Man..."McElroy, Fitzpatrick, McInally, Manning, Manning...<br /><br />So that's where the brainy Celtic people wind up (along with the military). Granted there was the Scottish Enlightenment, but overall they don't produce as many abstract and nerdy thinkers as their English neighbors do."<br /><br />The first three are 'Celtic' (actually Celts have little to do with the British Isles...), but Manning is an English name. Mannings are most common in East Anglia, in particular Suffolk.<br /><br />http://gbnames.publicprofiler.org/Map2.aspx?name=MANNING&year=1881&altyear=1998&country=GB&type=name<br /><br />http://gbnames.publicprofiler.org/Map.aspx?name=MANNING&year=1998&altyear=1881&country=GB&type=name<br /><br />http://gbnames.publicprofiler.org/Comparisons.aspx?name=MANNING&year=1998&altyear=1881&country=GB&type=name<br /><br />http://gbnames.publicprofiler.org/Statistics.aspx?name=MANNING&year=1998&altyear=1881&country=GB&type=nameAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-18161682182017988152011-03-01T11:14:28.006-08:002011-03-01T11:14:28.006-08:00What's interesting about Peyton and Eli Mannin...What's interesting about Peyton and Eli Manning is that the smarter one (Eli) also seems like the more well-adjusted one. And for all Peyton's fancy stats, Eli has as many Super Bowl wins.Frednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-79831775099898289912011-03-01T09:16:17.205-08:002011-03-01T09:16:17.205-08:00"Judging from his posts, Truth's IQ is pr...<i>"Judging from his posts, Truth's IQ is pretty low."</i><br /><br />Low for this crowd, yes, but I bet his IQ is average or slightly above, at least 100.<br /><br />He's better at verbal manipulation than he is at constructing a logical argument (i.e., scoring cheap points rather than making valid ones) but he's got plenty of company there.<br /><br />We make a mistake when we habitually underestimate all those who, to be blunt, have dumb opinions. Get Truth off the topic of race (not easy to do, I know) and he can be quite insightful.Kylienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-67241910112881473652011-03-01T08:52:15.865-08:002011-03-01T08:52:15.865-08:00The wonderlic is a 12 minute test with 50 question...The wonderlic is a 12 minute test with 50 questions. Thus you've got a little less than 15 seconds on average per question. That means it is very easy to score less than your actual potential if your 'game' on such tests isn't good. THe old computation test section of the ASVAB was similar---the testers as much as said that they didn't expect anyone to actualy finish the test. Most students don't actually have a lot of experience with tests that put such a premium on speed. Someone who gets hung up on a question for even a minute or two can seriously tank their score. So it's not too surprising that some NFL players did a lot better on a retest than on their first administration.Jehuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16483263667086303029noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-65377987894154009272011-03-01T07:58:50.109-08:002011-03-01T07:58:50.109-08:00the only IQ a quarterback needs is 'lose the b...the only IQ a quarterback needs is 'lose the ball before the 300 lb black guy or Samoan crushes me'.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-46063107360685704452011-03-01T07:48:55.396-08:002011-03-01T07:48:55.396-08:00Scotland sired James Clerk Maxwell who was the fir...<i>Scotland sired James Clerk Maxwell who was the first to write down the electromagnetic field equations; only Newton made a comparable contribution to Physics.</i><br />No Einstein and Fenymen are the greatest, eva! eva! no one is nearly as smart. Physics may well as not existed before then! <br /><br />Concerning Crawford, did she reproduce with saxon stock? any idea if she has in HBD savvy today - or just feel good Bono/Bradjolie globalism?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com