tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post2687437480663848546..comments2024-03-29T05:14:33.223-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: This doesn't happen to Malcolm GladwellUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger47125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-19116968933974804402011-05-19T14:48:24.069-07:002011-05-19T14:48:24.069-07:00It's not telling them what they want to hear, ...It's not telling them what they want to hear, it's telling them what they *expect* to hear. People are horrible at figuring out what ideas are really wacky and which ones aren't. Despite all kinds of hopeful claims by moral philosophers, peoples' moral intuitions are similarly unreliable. (As you could work out from reading a history book without blinders on. Go ask the ghosts of all the millions of Jews, Armenians, Lithuanians, Cambodians, Chinese, Tutsis, etc., mass murdered in the last century about the built-in moral intuitions of their fellow man.)<br /><br />Instead, what we're pretty good at is pattern recognition, and learning and enforcing the party line. People listen respectfully to Gladwell and mob Murray for the same reason some crowds now (and many historically) will listen respectfully to some preacher telling them they're all destined for a well-deserved eternity in hell, but would mob someone telling them all that hell and heaven stuff is fairy tales. Surely nobody *wants* to hear about how hot that whole lake of fire's going to be under their pale white ass. But some people *expect* to hear it, and will be damned offended if someone contradicts it. <br /><br />It's not that Gladwell (or for that matter Jesse Jackson) is telling them something happy and Murray something sad. It's that Gladwell or Jackson are telling them something they expect to hear, something they more-or-less believe because they've heard it repeated forever, while Murray's comments are offensive because they're seldom heard, and because they contradict that stuff they've always heard.tagalongnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-25042248961344490182011-05-17T12:24:50.898-07:002011-05-17T12:24:50.898-07:00The Boston Tea Party was "low-level thuggishn...The Boston Tea Party was "low-level thuggishness."Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-30804225101892621592011-05-17T04:54:04.251-07:002011-05-17T04:54:04.251-07:00My impression is that this low-level thuggishness ...My impression is that this low-level thuggishness has actually increased rather than decreased over the past 10-15 years.<br /><br />Here is a link to Charles Murray discussing "The Bell Curve" on Charlie Rose's PBS show in 1994. I suspect that in 2011 Murray is not even allowed on the premises. Moreover Rose introduces the interview by holding up a series of major publications (Time, Newsweek, NYT Magazine, etc) all of which put the controversy surrounding "The Bell Curve" on the cover. As opposed to today when HBD topics are suppressed by not even being mentioned -- even to be attacked.<br /><br />http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/7223Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-19506452107920201002011-05-16T22:34:31.399-07:002011-05-16T22:34:31.399-07:00"Alas the American public believes in the Ame..."Alas the American public believes in the American Dream which holds that "...all men are created equal." So we have the incredible situation where <b>science unanimously affirms</b> the reality of IQ but the public <b>prefers to believe</b> just the opposite. It's as if the American public rejected gravity or the turning of the earth."<br /><br />Disingenous and dishonest nonsense.<br /><br />Science doesn't affirm the reality of IQ IN PUBLIC because they know they'd get the same treatment from the power structure that Watson got. Science affirms IQ but only IN PRIVATE. In public they say the exact opposite out of fear of the anti-white inquisition.<br /><br />The public believes what they're told IN PUBLIC by the MSM and the education system which are in the hands of the currently dominant anti-white power structure.<br /><br />This dishonest nonsense that people are actively choosing lies over truth of their own free will is just more white suicide BS. The education system and the MSM actively seek to promote the lies and hide the truth.<br /><br />.Wandrinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-58025378600980895282011-05-16T15:19:48.613-07:002011-05-16T15:19:48.613-07:00"Human nature: people are willing to exchange..."Human nature: people are willing to exchange something of value to hear what they want to hear."<br /><br />This is true and entirely relevant as to why liberal students act like idiots when a scientist like Murray or Watson or when any political conservative is invited to speak.<br /><br />They don't want to hear anything that is contrary to their version of truth. But why is their version of truth, the version which is laid bare by a guy like Murray's data, so important to them that they cling to it as the most fundamentalist of fundamentalists clings to the Old Testament?<br /><br />Because nothing makes a progressive feel more important that being a Savior to the fallen. In this case, of course, the "fallen" are any minority. To make themselves feel more needed, they have to proclaim all minorities "oppressed" at some point, and the oppressed need a Savior, and what better way to convince oneself of one's goodness than to help the oppressed.<br /><br />Should the data provided by a speaker or a writer force a conclusion upon them that robs them of their notion that the oppressed can be saved and that they can be their Savior, why, they just can't take that.<br /><br />No, they'd rather hear that if they devote themselves to changing this or that, they can make a huge difference in the lives of the oppressed, in the course of the world. The ego is satiated by that "knowledge."<br /><br />To this kind of person, real knowledge, the kind arrived at by careful and diligent compilation and analyses of actual data, is not good, and they won't tolerate its dissemination.<br /><br />"Tell me something that makes me feel powerful over others." That's what they want.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-63798104491444092442011-05-16T14:17:31.609-07:002011-05-16T14:17:31.609-07:00"Malcolm Gladwell also tells us what we want ...<i>"Malcolm Gladwell also tells us what we want to hear that we can be whatever we want to be if we try hard enough."</i><br /><br />An interesting question is why people prefer this message to the IQ-realism message. I don't doubt that they <i>do</i> prefer it. But why? Why would someone rather be told he could win the Masters if he just worked hard enough (i.e., he's not rich because he's lazy) than be told that no matter how hard he worked, he probably wouldn't be in the same class as the top pros (i.e., it's no shame to be average)?<br /><br />Why prefer "it's possible and you failed" to "it's impossible"?Formerly.JP98https://www.blogger.com/profile/13106631196827299736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-45186847234511535852011-05-16T12:40:06.306-07:002011-05-16T12:40:06.306-07:00No, the anti-Christian, anti-American, anti-white ...<i>No, the anti-Christian, anti-American, anti-white Narrative is just "what Americans want to hear." Free market, and stuff.</i><br />so true. that's Hollywood studios rejected the Passion too. :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-64965311249325586662011-05-16T12:25:53.346-07:002011-05-16T12:25:53.346-07:00Human nature: people are willing to exchange somet...<i>Human nature: people are willing to exchange something of value to hear what they want to hear.</i><br /><br />I can't emphasize this enough; this is why The Narrative tells whitey everything's his fault - all white people are racial masochists! No, wait, masochists like pain, so they want to hear what they don't want to hear, and what they clearly <i>don't</i> want to hear is that something isn't their fault, but nobody ever tells them that...<br /><br />I'm so <i>confuuuuused</i>!Svigorhttp://majorityrights.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-8642942244721655912011-05-16T12:22:55.631-07:002011-05-16T12:22:55.631-07:00"Stop shaking your heads, guys. To a mouse, t...<i>"Stop shaking your heads, guys. To a mouse, two crumbs are statistics."<br /><br />It would have worked better with "roach" but hey better than usual.</i><br /><br />I guess you missed the setup. "Mouse" (that's you) is a spot on the medicine wheel.Svigorhttp://majorityrights.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-16281290544670646582011-05-16T11:53:02.286-07:002011-05-16T11:53:02.286-07:00that is the left way. It now standard for any cons...<i>that is the left way. It now standard for any conservatives that even get to speak on campus. Yet, because they control the dialogue, they go on and on about the christian taliban, intolerance, those dangerous fascists home schoolers, etc.</i><br /><br />No, the anti-Christian, anti-American, anti-white Narrative is just "what Americans want to hear." Free market, and stuff.Svigorhttp://majorityrights.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-61539641274451349262011-05-16T11:23:05.399-07:002011-05-16T11:23:05.399-07:00"Gladwell tells people that everyone of us wi..."Gladwell tells people that everyone of us will be nice, rich and succesful if only for a few things."<br /><br />I don't remember him saying any such thing. I do remember him saying that hard work and determination were positive things.<br /><br />"Stop shaking your heads, guys. To a mouse, two crumbs are statistics."<br /><br />It would have worked better with "roach" but hey better than usual.Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-25575160325438696742011-05-16T09:58:44.919-07:002011-05-16T09:58:44.919-07:00The explanation for why Gladwell is paid higher sp...The explanation for why Gladwell is paid higher speaking fees than Charles Murray is called the "free market."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-86354831306068237592011-05-16T09:27:21.551-07:002011-05-16T09:27:21.551-07:00"And apparently you wonder ae well. But you d..."And apparently you wonder ae well. But you do not bother to write down your speculations as to 'why.'<br /><br />Why?"<br /><br />It's obvious, isn't it?<br />Malcolm tells them what they want to hear. <br /><br />Have you ever dated?<br /><br />Human nature: people are willing to exchange something of value to hear what they want to hear.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-45223478832297382082011-05-16T09:18:18.420-07:002011-05-16T09:18:18.420-07:00"He's an idiot, but IQ is the best predic..."He's an idiot, but IQ is the best predictor of career success?"<br /><br />I've been thinking about the amazing combination of in-your-face mainstreaming of bullshittery while remaining respected by the MSM. It must be that most people, smart people included, are easily seduced by things they like to hear. Gladwell tells people that everyone of us will be nice, rich and succesful if only for a few things. Why listen to 'fatalist' guys like Murray who say 'IQ will put you in your place if there are other uplifting guys like Gladwell who say IQ doesn't matter at all? There's a reason why Gladwell's place in the book store is next to the 2-shakes-a-day wonder diets and self-help gurus.<br /><br />Still, we must struggle with the fact that he actually takes his own medicine; believes what he writes. How can such a dull man be succesful? I think he must have a real cynical publisher, who can manage to both stomach help spreading nonsense and getting rich of it.Outlandhttp://qwerty@uiop.nlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-25731830584659147462011-05-16T09:13:52.736-07:002011-05-16T09:13:52.736-07:00The situation is quite simple.
IQ is the bedrock...The situation is quite simple. <br /><br />IQ is the bedrock of scientific psychology. There are thousands of factoids about human behavior published every year. Most of them are irrelevant. Many of them are just plain wrong - but few care. Academic psychology is not particularly well regarded or respected.<br /><br />The great exception is intelligence testing. There have been hundreds of IQ and IQ-like studies done on tens of thousands of subjects. Furthermore these studies have been conducted all over the world for a century. They all show pretty much the same thing: IQ is stable, important, and varies among the races.<br /><br />Alas the American public believes in the American Dream which holds that "...all men are created equal." So we have the incredible situation where science unanimously affirms the reality of IQ but the public prefers to believe just the opposite. It's as if the American public rejected gravity or the turning of the earth.<br /><br />Murray's book <i>The Bell Curve</i> wasn't all that new. It was a book about well known facts and arguments, not a book about some new discovery. Everyone who was familiar with the scientific literature was also familiar with most of its content. But the media and the literati were scandalized. Murray dared to say what could not be said.<br /><br />Gladwell makes a living exploiting the public's anxiety over IQ. IQ is highly heritable - about .70 or so. That's about the same as height. I'm six four and my father was six four. No one is surprised or threatened by the inheritance of stature. But the idea that intelligence might also run in families and be similar in identical twins is very threatening. It seems to infringe on free will.<br /><br />So Gladwell creates a set of comforting myths that explain away inherited talent. The most bizarre is the notion that 10,000 hours of practice can make anyone able to do anything. He ignores Bill Gates' or Mozart's intrinsic abilities and claims that they just practiced more and earlier than others. This idea is so preposterous that you wouldn't think that anyone could actually believe it. But in fact it has made him rich. People want to be told fairy tales it seems.<br /><br />The situation is grave, maybe fatal to Western Civilization. I wish I could say that the public is slowly coming to its senses. But no, if anything it's getting worse.<br /><br />AlbertosaurusAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-44336685027948818172011-05-16T09:11:27.565-07:002011-05-16T09:11:27.565-07:00The academic left has won by phony consensus and n...The academic left has won by phony consensus and now must silence and disrupt the opposition rather than challenge them in the realm of discourse to maintain their perch. This current crop of post-modern leftists have little connection to the liberals I was familiar with prior to the early 1990's.Marc Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15526121114466617234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-64691062299132595542011-05-16T08:35:55.043-07:002011-05-16T08:35:55.043-07:00He's an idiot, but IQ is the best predictor of...<i>He's an idiot, but IQ is the best predictor of career success?</i><br /><br />Stop shaking your heads, guys. To a mouse, two crumbs <i>are</i> statistics.Svigorhttp://majorityrights.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-42678223805954920682011-05-16T08:22:13.029-07:002011-05-16T08:22:13.029-07:00"Sure, Malcolm Gladwell costs vastly more tha..."Sure, Malcolm Gladwell costs vastly more than Charles Murray and is kind of an idiot, but no thugs try to disrupt Gladwell's orations, and since the Great and Good are on the thugs' side, Malcolm's worth it."<br /><br />It's worth noting that Murray received a warm welcome at the 2010 ISIR Conference in Madrid, where he was recognized as a distinguished contributor:<br /><br />http://www.isironline.org/meeting/archive.html<br /><br />ISIR is a venue in which intelligence research can be rationally discussed, sans fire alarms.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-59590070784741306242011-05-16T08:18:41.136-07:002011-05-16T08:18:41.136-07:00You would only need one person nearby to scare awa...<i>You would only need one person nearby to scare away the dickless little chumps.</i><br />But YOU get arrested and the "dickless chumps" walk.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-68586994311797613552011-05-16T08:17:55.250-07:002011-05-16T08:17:55.250-07:00He also has apparently introduced students in his ...<i> He also has apparently introduced students in his own classes to Murray's work.</i><br />one could imagine how that's presented "the racist professor Charles Murray's work has been used by neo nazis to..."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-79088290528760641362011-05-16T07:48:44.443-07:002011-05-16T07:48:44.443-07:00"He's an outlier. See what I did there. :..."He's an outlier. See what I did there. :-)"<br /><br />I see exactly, but do you :-):-) :-):-) :-) :-) :-) :,0 :'0 :-! :+( :*0 :@)Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-14052675800145909672011-05-16T06:12:34.280-07:002011-05-16T06:12:34.280-07:00If you can't refute him via dialogue, don'...<i>If you can't refute him via dialogue, don't let him talk.</i><br />that is the left way. It now standard for any conservatives that even get to speak on campus. Yet, because they control the dialogue, they go on and on about the christian taliban, intolerance, those dangerous fascists home schoolers, etc.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-52184983207385000742011-05-16T06:10:47.012-07:002011-05-16T06:10:47.012-07:00Send your kids to non-marxist colleges only or exp...<i>Send your kids to non-marxist colleges only or expect marxism to continue to thrive courtesy of YOUR tuition payments.</i><br />but if you want a good job you have ot go to a high status school which is always marxist. and frankly most whites care more about a good job than politics, thats why most conservatives just grit their teeth and go through college so they can get that Wall Street job. <br /><br />If a conservative school started getting a good reputation marxist and liberal elite money would snuff it out or take it over. (i have seen this happen with a representational art school )Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-53186948183965293442011-05-16T06:05:42.335-07:002011-05-16T06:05:42.335-07:00Malcolm Gladwell also tells us what we want to hea...Malcolm Gladwell also tells us what we want to hear that we can be whatever we want to be if we try hard enough.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-85658965065674829772011-05-16T04:56:55.336-07:002011-05-16T04:56:55.336-07:00So much for crying fire in a crowded theatre as an...So much for crying fire in a crowded theatre as an argument against free speech.Marlowenoreply@blogger.com