tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post2695618537843605111..comments2024-03-27T18:24:19.683-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: NYT readers: Mexico maybe not so awesome after allUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger52125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-55574840206608527482013-10-05T21:37:24.982-07:002013-10-05T21:37:24.982-07:00Anonymous: As was mentioned in a previous iSteve p...Anonymous: As was mentioned in a previous iSteve post in December 2012, maybe it is time for the US to invade and install some better institutions.<br /><br />That would only bring the worst of the US approach to government and policy (imagine a US-trained all Mestizo police force, for example) and obliterate any advantages of living in Mexico (they are legion) whilst worsening everything bad about living in Mexico.Jonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-22242257749038426732013-10-04T16:28:50.016-07:002013-10-04T16:28:50.016-07:00There's now 77 confirmed cholera cases in Mexi...There's now 77 confirmed cholera cases in Mexico:<br /><br />http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/estados/2013/hidalgo-colera-casos-956014.html<br /><br />A regional health organization has issued a cholera alert for Mexico:<br /><br />http://www.laht.com/article.asp?ArticleId=1058337&CategoryId=14091<br /><br />http://www.paho.org/hq/index.php?option=com_docman&task=doc_view&gid=23164Pepenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-88394934585148469282013-10-04T07:44:54.153-07:002013-10-04T07:44:54.153-07:00And now - cholera following the recent deadly rain...And now - cholera following the recent deadly rains:<br /><br />http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/cholera-kills-sickens-mexico-20403130<br /><br />http://crofsblogs.typepad.com/h5n1/2013/10/mexico-measure-strengthened-to-prevent-spread-of-cholera.html<br /><br /><br />Pepenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-64564663096454705532013-10-03T14:32:37.992-07:002013-10-03T14:32:37.992-07:00"As a Canadian I have always wondered about t..."As a Canadian I have always wondered about this. Why do Americans not see the dangers of having such a large vulnerable neighbor on their southern flank, especially with such a porous border and the fact that (some) Mexican have irredentist views about the southwest. America spends a fortune shoring up distant countries around the globe thousands of miles away but ignores a potential ticking time bomb on its very doorsteps. " - it all comes down to demographics, and there is no quick fix for a nation that encouraged a TFR of 7 via state policy. The least worst thing we can do(best from our perspective) is to wall it off.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-57320163948645869192013-10-03T02:12:08.352-07:002013-10-03T02:12:08.352-07:00To be fair to Mexico, it did produce this:
Huapan...To be fair to Mexico, it did produce this:<br /><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkVcwrL1hog" rel="nofollow">Huapango</a><br /><br />A pretty rousing little piece composed by Jose Pablo Moncayo, and which was ripped off in the soundtrack of just about every western made in the 1960s.<br /><br />Mr. Anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-48822756831659207862013-10-03T01:11:08.508-07:002013-10-03T01:11:08.508-07:00"JWS said...
It would kill Steve to say some..."JWS said...<br /><br />It would kill Steve to say something nice about Mexico."<br /><br />Would it kill Mexico to do something un-iStevey?Mr. Anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-72766760140610032962013-10-02T22:16:16.984-07:002013-10-02T22:16:16.984-07:00"Even into the late 1990s, early 2000s, I wou..."Even into the late 1990s, early 2000s, I would got to Hussongs or Papas y Beer. "<br /><br />Yeah, it was still pretty happening in the late 80's and the nightclubs on Revolution in TJ were a popular destination for underage drinkers. Somewhere around that time the military made Tijuana off-limits to enlisted due to repeated problems with shakedowns by law enforcement. In my experience the cops back then were basically OK if you weren't a dick.<br /><br />It was an entertaining drive down to Ensanada, Hussong's had a stylish sawdust floor, and you could get good seafood and cheap margaritas at some of the beach hotels. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-34979547483497832322013-10-02T17:21:50.796-07:002013-10-02T17:21:50.796-07:00"It would kill Steve to say something nice ab..."It would kill Steve to say something nice about Mexico."<br /><br />It'd be funny as hell if Sailer's son marries a Mexican. <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-40456779494050673802013-10-02T16:43:09.253-07:002013-10-02T16:43:09.253-07:00+ Anonymous 9:31 p.m. said:
"As celebrity mu...+ Anonymous 9:31 p.m. said:<br /><br />"As celebrity murderers go, the fantasy of the Mexican Shangri-La figured rather prominently in The Shawshank Redemption."<br /><br />The final scene was filmed in the U.S. Virgin Islands: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Point_National_Wildlife_Refuge<br /><br />+ SustainableDiversity said at 6:37 a.m.:<br /><br />"You bring up an excellent point. I myself have always wondered if the tendency for endemic corruption in mexico and their penchant for deception stems from their spanish roots, or their asian ones. (possibly both?)"<br /><br />What about the Arab/Muslim influences? Like the 800 year Muslim domination of Spain, and Mexico's current Arab jet set?<br /><br />+ And, JWS at 3:45 p.m. today:<br /><br />"It would kill Steve to say something nice about Mexico. No mention that Mexican GDP growth soundly outperformed the US for the past three years, and will probably do so again for the next five." ...<br /><br />...has got to be kidding. See Steve's post on the phony "Aztec Tiger/Mexican Moment" a few days ago. I put in a late comment on how the recent deadly rains there will shrink the economy even more.<br /><br />Tomorrow I'm going to see the movie "Tlatelolco" down here. Anyone want a review? Good, because I don't do reviews.<br /><br /><br /><br />Pepenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-52840974525136137662013-10-02T16:08:16.742-07:002013-10-02T16:08:16.742-07:00Even Mexican-American Cheech Marin couldn't st...Even Mexican-American Cheech Marin couldn't stand Mexico, telling anyone who would listen, "I was born in East LA!"E. Rekshunnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-38595725167375319412013-10-02T15:45:51.124-07:002013-10-02T15:45:51.124-07:00It would kill Steve to say something nice about Me...It would kill Steve to say something nice about Mexico. No mention that Mexican GDP growth soundly outperformed the US for the past three years, and will probably do so again for the next five. It will be interesting to see what happens when the state privatizes the oil industry and Chevron and Exxon start fracturing the same rock formations that have minted a fortune in south Texas.<br /> JWSnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-45023871443357064762013-10-02T13:38:17.162-07:002013-10-02T13:38:17.162-07:00"Does anyone in power not see the benefits of..."Does anyone in power not see the benefits of a Mexico functioning like Canada"?<br /><br />As a Canadian I have always wondered about this. Why do Americans not see the dangers of having such a large vulnerable neighbor on their southern flank, especially with such a porous border and the fact that (some) Mexican have irredentist views about the southwest. America spends a fortune shoring up distant countries around the globe thousands of miles away but ignores a potential ticking time bomb on its very doorsteps. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-69423941472837496502013-10-02T12:41:59.088-07:002013-10-02T12:41:59.088-07:00"Andy Kieffer, a former Silicon Valley entrep..."Andy Kieffer, a former Silicon Valley entrepreneur who lives in Guadalajara, said Americans needed to reconsider Mexico and the way they judged the country. He argued that Mexico’s largest cities are statistically less violent than Baltimore, Detroit, New Orleans, Oakland and St. Louis."<br /><br />The disingenuousness - or stupidity - of such people is boundless. Gosh - Baltimore, Detroit, New Orleans, Oakland and St. Louis - what do these cities all have in common that would make the crime rate there greater than that of Mexico? What could it possibly be? I guess it will just have to remain a mystery. Somethings cannot be known.Mr. Anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-92148375406171579782013-10-02T11:45:24.093-07:002013-10-02T11:45:24.093-07:00Mexicans immivade the US because they have no oppo...Mexicans immivade the US because they have no opportunities in Mexico, the land of opportunity for non-Mexicans. 'K Mexico's problems are caused by 1) too many Mexicans 2) Too few non-Mexicans.<br /><br />A great crusade for those 'We are the 99% types. Sort of like carpetbagger Yankees in the South or English Imperial Police like Orwell. A majority of Mexicans say they would like to come to the US in some polls, and Central Americans are even more desperate for Anglos running things.<br /><br />Picture it being a bit like the Raj wearing a Sombrero. There's a chance it works and Mexico blooms with progressives running the show. Even when it fails like an hbd nerd in gym class, it would give the occupiers something to do...in Mexico!robnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-84084866476605160562013-10-02T11:43:22.097-07:002013-10-02T11:43:22.097-07:00Correction: The Tlatelolco massacre happend just a...Correction: The Tlatelolco massacre happend just a little over a week before the 1968 summer Olympics, not after.Mr. Anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-85351658101068199972013-10-02T11:38:46.073-07:002013-10-02T11:38:46.073-07:00"Robert said...
"Weak government" ..."Robert said...<br /><br />"Weak government" indeed? Tell that to the Cristeros whom the Mexican regime exterminated during the 1920s and 1930s ... or, for that matter, to the several hundred civilian protesters gunned down by a slightly milder version of said regime during one night in 1968 (the Tlatelolco massacre)."<br /><br />Funny you should mention that, as today just happens to be the 45th anniversary of the massacre. I remember, back in the eighties, a friend of mine, who was at the time a journalism student, told me something that had been related to him by a reporter he had interned with - how the story of the massacre went out on the AP wire that night in 1968, but that nothing much was made of it. It happened not long after the Olympics were hosted in Mexico City. The government had been squeezing the country to pay for it, and cracking down on the dissent that engendered. I guess the worlds rather limited attention span for Mexico had all be used up by the summer games.Mr. Anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-141689319631112232013-10-02T11:26:58.455-07:002013-10-02T11:26:58.455-07:00"Anonymous said...
Does anyone in power not ..."Anonymous said...<br /><br />Does anyone in power not see the benefit of a Mexico functioning like Canada?"<br /><br />Yeah, that would be great. So, all we need to do is fill Mexico with Canadians, or turn Mexicans into Canadians. How do we do that?Mr. Anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-58835427652676585082013-10-02T11:17:12.291-07:002013-10-02T11:17:12.291-07:00"No donkey shows in Vegas." That you kn..."No donkey shows in Vegas." That you know of.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-78856122497945736372013-10-02T09:42:25.713-07:002013-10-02T09:42:25.713-07:00Never pay any attention to the NYT on Mexico. A ye...Never pay any attention to the NYT on Mexico. A year or so ago, they had an article about a 9 year old Mexican girl who gave birth. Omigod, what a disgusting nation. No matter that nearly 15 years ago, an 8 year old girl in Amarillo, Texas was pregnant!<br /><br />Anyway, the reporter claimed that the Age of Consent in Mexico was 12. What a disgusting country!<br /><br />Actually it later came out she was 12, almost 13, and her stepfather will spend most of his remaining years of life in prison. As he should.<br /><br />And, I personally guarantee you the age of consent in virtually all of Mexico is 18. I have the penal code in my bookcase for my state, and have read them for other states.<br /><br />The reporter's ignorance was based on her stupidity -- if not deliberately malicious, of course.<br /><br />Before age 12, statutory rape, if we can call it that, is akin to murder, with up to 40 years in prison.<br /><br />After age 12, it is up to the girl or family to press charges . They realize here in Mexico that young girls do at times have strong libidos, and just might choose to get laid. If the family, who knows the girl better than anyone, decides she knew what she was doing, they will often not choose to destroy a man's life. If they don't press charges, the cops and prosecuting attorney can't do a thing.<br /><br />Anonymous age 71<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-69215751154739699582013-10-02T09:30:05.770-07:002013-10-02T09:30:05.770-07:00Someone mentioned Fred Reed. The Mexico I live in ...Someone mentioned Fred Reed. The Mexico I live in is the same one Fred Reed lives in. Life is good here.<br /><br />Mexico is one fo the safest nations in the Central American region. Look up CIA figures for murders in places like Nicaragua and El Salvador. Most of the murders in Mexico are members of the drug cartels.<br /><br />Some time ago, there was a big fuss when two Canadian tourists were murdered. Turns out they were down here trying to sit up connections in drug trafficking.<br /><br />Anonymous age 71<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-71108824829338012422013-10-02T09:24:33.080-07:002013-10-02T09:24:33.080-07:00>>Drive through Mexico? Who the heck does th...>>Drive through Mexico? Who the heck does that?<br /><br />Um, I do. I have driven an estimated 50,000 miles in Mexico in the last 8 years. Since I have Texas plates, my only problem in most cases is attorneys chasing me down the street offering to help me nationalize my car, heh, heh.<br /><br />As far as living in Mexico, there are an estimated number of North Americans, perhaps as many as hundreds of thousands of us. A million legal foreigners in Mexico, and it is believed most are North Americans.<br /><br />But, please, please, please understand it is a terrible place. If you believe that, you won't come down here and destroy my neighborhood, aka as My Little Paradise.<br /><br />Yes, Mexico is very corrupt. They have a president who isn't even a legal alien, and the press has conspired to cover it up. Also, they just recently gave $700 billion dollars to corrupt bankers who had speculated like crazy people, to bail them out. And, the nation is spending nearly a trillion dollars a year more than it has coming in. And, their tax people screwed over people whose politics they didn't like. And, their Federal government allowed criminals to buy high powered weapons illegally, that have been used to kill citizens. And, if you drive cross country, cops illegally stop you with no probable cause in hopes of stealing your car without due process. Also, corrupt, stupid cops taser elderly women in wheel chairs who then die. OH, WAIT A MINUTE!<br /><br />As far as the Tlatelolco massacre, in 1998, the Mexico City press began for the first time to report what actually happened there. My brother-in-law and his wife were part of those "peaceful protesters". Turns out it was a standard Marxist event, with armed provocateurs shooting at the police.<br /><br />It was instigated by Marxist professors from UNAM. They told the gullible students that as students the government would not DARE to harm them, that they would change the nation. The professors, as Marxist professors always do, well knew there were going to be armed provocateurs shooting at the cops. But, they assumed the world press, also Marxist sympathizers, would hide that fact. They did, too. And, still are, as you can see. <br /><br />And, they expected the world's response would bring down the existing government and put in a Marxist government. If I had not been in Mexico City in 1998, when a local newspaper printed original pictures from 1968, and interviewed survivors, I would be as ignorant of the truth as most of you. <br /><br />I have met those Marxist professors. We had Christmas and New Years feast at our shared home, and they were invited. My BIL still views them as heroes.<br /><br />Based on past experience, I am confident someone will come on here, and scream curses at me, and tell you I am totally wrong. So be it. But, you have heard the truth as reported in 1998 by the Mexico City press.<br /><br />My brother-in-law had his brains boiled by the Marxist professors. One day he told me that in the US, under capitalism, babies are dying every day from starvation. Seriously. And, he believes it.<br /><br />Steve, your comment section demonstrates extreme ignorance of Mexico. A lot of totally false and ignorant statements. But, as I said, please, all you guys, believe them and leave us alone down here.<br /><br />Anonymous age 71<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-15485218903490234012013-10-02T08:17:56.611-07:002013-10-02T08:17:56.611-07:00The jeweler complaining about the police doing not...The jeweler complaining about the police doing nothing about the robberies should consider the idea that the police themselves might be involved in them. Most Mexicans seem to consider the police just another gang.Chicagonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-81132829990223421042013-10-02T07:36:22.115-07:002013-10-02T07:36:22.115-07:00Here's an interesting book about Mexico:
God&...Here's an interesting book about Mexico:<br /><br />God's Middle Finger: Into the Lawless Heart of the Sierra Madre Paperback<br />by Richard Grant <br /><br />...<br /><br />Grant describes his journey into the anarchic back country of central Mexico. In 1988, we took a train ride through this area to visit the Copper Canyon - a fantastic trip, by the way. A few yaers after our visit, the train was robbed by some local banditos, and a couple of European tourists were killed. This generated a lot of international outrage, forcing the Mexican government to send the army into this area. The drug lords, who really were running the show, were not happy about all this scrutiny, and they knew who the banditos were. So they put out the word to leave the train and the tourists alone. And just to make sure that everybody understood the message, the robbers and many members of their families were murdered, many in most gruesome fashions. But nobody bothered the tourists again. Ah, Mexico!Black Deathnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-51021878252385735312013-10-02T06:57:56.450-07:002013-10-02T06:57:56.450-07:00He argued that Mexico’s largest cities are statist...<i>He argued that Mexico’s largest cities are statistically less violent than Baltimore, Detroit, New Orleans, Oakland and St. Louis.</i><br /><br />I wonder if there's a reason for that. I wonder if it has something to do with Baltimore, New Orleans, Oakland and Dear Ole St. Louis having a high population of <i>Africanus Bellcurvius</i> and Mexican cities not.countenancehttp://countenance.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-53888404916014573292013-10-02T06:37:15.193-07:002013-10-02T06:37:15.193-07:00"Here are some Mexican opinions as to why Mex..."Here are some Mexican opinions as to why Mexico is so corrupt:<br /><br />http://www.quora.com/Mexico/Why-is-Mexico-so-corrupt<br /><br />Actually it sounds a lot like China."<br /><br />You bring up an excellent point. I myself have always wondered if the tendency for endemic corruption in mexico and their penchant for deception stems from their spanish roots, or their asian ones. (possibly both?)SustainableDiversityhttp://sustainablediversity.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.com