tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post2969425052839000202..comments2024-03-15T20:52:26.967-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: Latest Girl Power icon to surface in media promoting women in STEM is hot babe with great hairUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger124125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-37398278883349908162014-04-25T17:12:01.380-07:002014-04-25T17:12:01.380-07:00It's hard to get girls to study engineering. T...It's hard to get girls to study engineering. They tried it about 20 years ago at one of the seven sisters (Radcliffe?). They eventually had to shut the department. It wasn't that the women couldn't handle the courses. It was rather that they regarded engineering as a step down the social ladder.Paul Ciottihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08919369756030397155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-44233765032006188702013-11-25T14:45:41.071-08:002013-11-25T14:45:41.071-08:00"Girls can be great engineers!" - Really..."Girls can be great engineers!" - Really? So can we cut off your funding and Affirmative Action quotas, since you can do it yourself?<br /><br />Wait, what's that? That's sexist? I thought you said girls were better!<br /><br />There is and always will be a gender gap. IQ is everything. Until I actually see women do what they say will close the gap, they'll be nothing more than harpies singing bad tunes.I. Renardehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08425670722601517036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-15121410128841236332013-11-25T12:29:16.676-08:002013-11-25T12:29:16.676-08:00If Paris Hilton was to say "STEM - that's...If Paris Hilton was to say "STEM - that's hot" you would have more women applying for places than places existed.<br /><br />The Volvo concept car. A space between the front two seats with just enough room to fit a Soong type Android head.<br /><br />These chicks saw 23rd century needs and delivered it in the 21st.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-23180922327846975952013-11-25T12:16:13.572-08:002013-11-25T12:16:13.572-08:00What I don't like about the people behind the ...What I don't like about the people behind the video is that they are making the Beastie Boys look bad by imputing non-existent political motives into a fun and innocent song. They've actually sued the band:<br /><br />http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/11/25/the-beastie-boys-fight-online-video-parody-of-girls/<br /><br />And what's worse, the mainstream media coverage of the lawsuit is typically Sailerian. I.e. the NYT's headline states "Beastie Boys Fight Online Video Parody of Girls" when it was the Beastie Boys who were initially hauled into court. <br /><br />They are victims of unfair treatment, yet the NYT's politics prevent their editors from accurately representing them as such. JWSnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-18592069988145106562013-11-25T10:23:48.785-08:002013-11-25T10:23:48.785-08:00"Truth, you really think the Kardashian brood..."Truth, you really think the Kardashian brood are practical role models for your daughter? Because they're rich (for the moment)? What's your take on Courtney Stodden--small-town gal made good, amirite"<br /><br />Does going to engineering school guarantee that's one's daughter will not be the slut-de-jour?<br /><br />In general, I feel that rich is preferable to poor, I'm funny that way, but what needs to be examined is WHY (particularly please) you feel that the Khardashian sisters are bad role models.Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06055498054610225388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-4019361900492290452013-11-25T07:16:25.967-08:002013-11-25T07:16:25.967-08:00"Have you ever noticed that basically everyth..."Have you ever noticed that basically everything you are supposed to believe in these days -- feminism, diversity, etc. -- turns out in practice to just be another way for hot babes, rich guys, super salesmen, cunning financiers, telegenic self-promoters, and charismatic politicians to get even more money and power?"<br /><br />Yes, I have.Kurt Bermudahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09918169127672588435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-7800014873068640642013-11-24T21:48:38.851-08:002013-11-24T21:48:38.851-08:00"How's that work out in practice?" -..."How's that work out in practice?" - Obamacare.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-43476635715378958482013-11-24T19:07:21.027-08:002013-11-24T19:07:21.027-08:00Impressive to see that combination of brains and b...<i>Impressive to see that combination of brains and brawn in any one country but amazing that a country as small as Norway (5mm) could produce both at the same time.</i><br /><br /><br />Chess is often considered a purely intellectual endeavor, but could be there is a physical stamina correlation, along the lines of the ability to pull it out in the old engineering school late night final... Kind of reminds me when I was young and foolish and the engineering team would work 2 or 3 days straight to make the deadline, sleeping on the machine room floor...<br /><br /><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnus_Carlsen#Playing_style" rel="nofollow">"In a 2012 interview, Vladimir Kramnik attributed much of Carlsen's success against other top players to his "excellent physical shape" and his ability to avoid "psychological lapses", which enables him to maintain a high standard of play over long games and at the end of tournaments, when the energy levels of others have dropped."</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-87527365847942180322013-11-24T16:47:48.269-08:002013-11-24T16:47:48.269-08:00Real patriarchal gifts for girls would be a box of...<i>Real patriarchal gifts for girls would be a box of chicks the girl was expected to raise up to produce eggs, a flock of geese to herd from one field to another or a book of French vocabulary to memorize.</i><br /><br />How about kitchen utensils?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-63876040182512060502013-11-24T16:33:40.716-08:002013-11-24T16:33:40.716-08:00Truth, you really think the Kardashian brood are p...Truth, you really think the Kardashian brood are practical role models for your daughter? Because they're rich (for the moment)? What's your take on Courtney Stodden--small-town gal made good, amiriteDivine Brown Universitynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-4694980052995750472013-11-24T16:00:13.070-08:002013-11-24T16:00:13.070-08:00Women at Volvo have designed a Concept Car.
http:...Women at Volvo have designed a Concept Car.<br /><br />http://www.gizmag.com/go/2672/<br /><br />Women can fail, and yet have an option in Marraige/Housewife.<br /><br />Man fails; No Sex Period.Solushttp://vsnl.net/~Solusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-83727906143403333532013-11-24T14:53:10.521-08:002013-11-24T14:53:10.521-08:00I doubt the pop feminist claim that it's the p...I doubt the pop feminist claim that it's the patriarchy that wants girls to aspire to be fairy princesses and play with pink plastic knick-knacks. From what I know of the patriarchs in my own family tree I can say with confidence that would not have been the case. Real patriarchal gifts for girls would be a box of chicks the girl was expected to raise up to produce eggs, a flock of geese to herd from one field to another or a book of French vocabulary to memorize. The pink plastic spoilt princess toys are the product of late consumer capitalism, not patriarchy. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04017589590769465615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-68103660587660855172013-11-24T13:12:37.538-08:002013-11-24T13:12:37.538-08:00" What do we lose when when we collectively a..." What do we lose when when we collectively abandon the arts, culture, social "sciences"* and everything else non-STEM to the ladies? Is it smart for us to hand over book learnin' to the ladies..."<br /><br />Men didn't abandon these fields, men who give a shit about education did.Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-76935357170463045842013-11-24T13:05:27.268-08:002013-11-24T13:05:27.268-08:00"Maybe if they want to get more girls into ST..."Maybe if they want to get more girls into STEM, they should push that message to parents: it'll keep your daughter from being a Kardashian!"<br /><br />After all, who wouldn't want their daughter making $62,000 rather than $100,000,000?Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-85410922541465856462013-11-24T12:52:37.607-08:002013-11-24T12:52:37.607-08:00Rube Goldberg was a man, too.
Maybe they thought ...Rube Goldberg was a man, too.<br /><br />Maybe they thought he was a she?freudwasrightaboutafewthingsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-48787726361813233092013-11-24T10:53:18.558-08:002013-11-24T10:53:18.558-08:00Not only is the world chess champ Norwegian, but s...Not only is the world chess champ Norwegian, but so is the new world record holder in the <a href="http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e66HhuHJIwI&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3De66HhuHJIwI" rel="nofollow">squat</a>. Impressive to see that combination of brains and brawn in any one country but amazing that a country as small as Norway (5mm) could produce both at the same time.Dave Pinsenhttp://twitter.com/dpinsennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-54283881159366621282013-11-24T10:48:58.803-08:002013-11-24T10:48:58.803-08:00Anonymous wrote:
"Is the phenomenon of Youtu...Anonymous wrote:<br /><br />"Is the phenomenon of Youtube videos 'going viral' totally on the level? Can the statistics be manipulated? I've wondered this since the video about overthrowing the african warlord went viral a couple of years ago, and it seemed to be playing right into the hands of the US govt. So possibly this toy company video going viral is just the result of Miss Sterling knowing somebody."<br /><br />I would think most of us, and a lot of other people in various places around the internet think the same thing, regardless of whatever ideology or politics is in vogue at the site.<br /><br />I mean if you can get Google to play ball I think you could make whatever you wanted viral.<br /><br />Maybe that explains Farmville. Someone at the NSA said: "If we can make this a hit, then we can do absolutely anything."<br /><br />Maybe Angry Birds too. I kind of wonder how many apps get popular as a way for someone to show their "Flair."sunbeamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16540822135478202229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-40047142513009672502013-11-24T09:19:25.534-08:002013-11-24T09:19:25.534-08:00"I'd bet a small cup of coffee that being...<i>"I'd bet a small cup of coffee that being good at chess (or potentially good at chess) correlates with being good at engineering."<br /><br />Armenians and Russians should make the best engineers, then. Do they?</i><br /><br /><br />Not so fast... The current <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnus_Carlsen" rel="nofollow">current world chess champion</a> isn't Armenian or Russian, he's Norwegian. I don't know much about chess, but if I read this right he's <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elo_rating_system" rel="nofollow">ranked highest</a> in history, including with respect to previous chess champions (and if you want to feel old, he's only 22): <br /><br /> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnus_Carlsen" rel="nofollow">"His peak rating is 2872, the highest in history."</a><br /><br />Trying to make fine rankings with respect to chess and applying them to engineering might not the that useful. The big distinction is being there at all, being interested at all. Also, engineering, especially large system engineering, at the top overlaps with politics, management, raw leadership... the technical brain has to be there, but it's just one of the necessary conditions for success.<br /><br />In practice no one denies that Armenians and Russians make great engineers. But engineers don't make fine distinctions with respect to populations along the lines of "Armenians are better engineers than Russians". Engineering effectiveness is also significantly shaped by the engineering culture in a country and its engineering career paths. Do recently graduated engineers become technocrat managers and don't get to do any "real" engineering until late in their career? Or do they start in the trenches and work their way up? Is engineering considered a professional field in which it's bad form to get your hands dirty?<br /><br />The biggest complaint I hear about modern Russian engineers is they can be reluctant to get their hands dirty and can seem to spend the day taking loooonngg smoke breaks... but maybe this is just a small sample. In areas like open source projects in which they participate as individuals they do very well indeed. Likewise, nobody is surprised when a top engineer is Norwegian or Scandinavian, they have a long history.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-55964138207729317902013-11-24T09:12:19.754-08:002013-11-24T09:12:19.754-08:00"Sadly, the girls he's trying to impress ..."Sadly, the girls he's trying to impress with this flagellation still aren't going to sleep with him."<br /><br />Cail, let us introduce you to a little-known literary device known as <i>"sarcasm"</i>.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-27343687018507730702013-11-24T08:26:13.597-08:002013-11-24T08:26:13.597-08:00slightly o/t, but on re-reading Anthony Sampson...slightly o/t, but on re-reading Anthony Sampson's 1970s The Arms Bazaar, all about big boys toys, I noticed that the great French aircraft designer and industrialist Marcel Dassault was Jewish - born Bloch. His brother, a Resistance fighter, was nicknamed 'Char d'Assault' i.e. 'Tank', and that's where he took his name from. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-3503765852028668362013-11-24T06:28:31.893-08:002013-11-24T06:28:31.893-08:00Is the phenomenon of Youtube videos 'going vir...Is the phenomenon of Youtube videos 'going viral' totally on the level? Can the statistics be manipulated? I've wondered this since the video about overthrowing the african warlord went viral a couple of years ago, and it seemed to be playing right into the hands of the US govt. So possibly this toy company video going viral is just the result of Miss Sterling knowing somebody.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-61805218311832221542013-11-24T05:20:04.831-08:002013-11-24T05:20:04.831-08:00Heartiste now writes for The Onion?Heartiste now writes for The Onion?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-33866535581906499732013-11-24T05:08:32.209-08:002013-11-24T05:08:32.209-08:00Antioco Dascalon said...
If women make up aro...<i> Antioco Dascalon said...<br /><br /> If women make up around 60% of all BA and MA programs, but only a fraction of STEM fields, they must really dominate the non-stem fields. <b>Why is there no similar outcry to encourage boys to major in, say, Italian Literature or Psychology?</b><br /> Where are the toys encouraging boys to explore creative writing or foreign languages? Are these fields less valuable? Or are boys less valued?</i><br /><br />That's a whole other topic that really merits discussion. What do we lose when when we collectively abandon the arts, culture, social "sciences"* and everything else non-STEM to the ladies? Is it smart for us to hand over book learnin' to the ladies and be happy to be just the white collar equivalent of grease monkeys, keeping the machines going and occasionally coming up with a new iPhone? That's not a hypothetical question either; it's a description of our current arrangement. <br /><br />*(I'd say let them have sociology and similar bogus fields of study but they end up getting up to real mischief with those degrees.) Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04017589590769465615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-4232464515010523252013-11-24T01:40:43.937-08:002013-11-24T01:40:43.937-08:00If women make up around 60% of all BA and MA progr...If women make up around 60% of all BA and MA programs, but only a fraction of STEM fields, they must really dominate the non-stem fields. Why is there no similar outcry to encourage boys to major in, say, Italian Literature or Psychology? <br />Where are the toys encouraging boys to explore creative writing or foreign languages? Are these fields less valuable? Or are boys less valued?<br />Will we not stop until women are the majority in every single major? Is it really plausible that women are 90% of sociology/literature majors AND 51% of STEM majors? Antioco Dascalonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10617669156986603638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-48545655457402339592013-11-23T22:28:05.218-08:002013-11-23T22:28:05.218-08:00The Goldieblox ad drove me crazy in that they stuc...The Goldieblox ad drove me crazy in that they stuck a little girl in a tool belt and a hard hat like a construction worker. Like Sunbeam pointed out, very few engineers get their hands dirty - the engineers think, the techs build. It'd be more realistic to show a girl with a laptop under her arm. I don't know why everyone (non-engineers mostly) equates building toys = future engineers. More like puzzle solvers = engineers. My sister and I loved our Barbie dolls but we both became engineers, one EE and one ME back in the heyday (who knew?) of 1986 and 1991.<br /><br />The toy is incredibly limited for all the press it's getting. Any reasonably intelligent child would get about 15 minutes of fun, tops, out of it and move on, never to be touched again. There isn't much you can do with a ribbon and a handful of rods, spools, and connectors. You're better off getting real tinker toys and a bunch of legos for your kids, even if they aren't pastel and come with cute little animals.Lady Engineernoreply@blogger.com