tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post3073572812349730024..comments2024-03-27T18:24:19.683-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: L.A. Times: "Is it 'relevant' that James Holmes is white?"Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger96125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-78976938819733863642012-07-29T21:36:21.312-07:002012-07-29T21:36:21.312-07:00Isn't "running amok" another version...Isn't "running amok" another version of the same sort of thing as a mass shooting? It's an anglicazation of a Malay term. <br /><br />The much more common version of this involves some guy murdering his estranged wife and her boyfriend, sometimes killing his kids or other family members, too. That kind of crime isn't national news, though it makes the local news. <br /><br />Somewhat less common is the version that involves some guy murdering his coworkers or ex-coworkers. <br /><br />Both of those have the property that the motive makes sense, but the actions are way out of line with what makes sense. It's easy to see why the guy was mad at his ex-wife or his ex-boss, so the murders don't seem quite so random, even though the shooter often murders people against whom he didn't have any particular grievance--the guy who blows away his ex boss may murder the summer intern and the temp secretary on the way. And it seems like that kind of shooter usually kills himself, and he'd go to prison otherwise, so it's not really rational. But at least it doesn't seem totally unpredicteable or crazy. <br /><br />The big crazy mass shootings like this one are harder to make any sense of. I mean this Aurora nut apparently decided he was the Joker and murdering a bunch of people in a theater was a Joker-ish thing to do. It's hard to see that kind of thing coming. Since almost all our defenses against crime are based on deterrence and rational safeguards, crazy people can do a lot of harm.NOTAnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-47015457929384761302012-07-29T20:04:18.722-07:002012-07-29T20:04:18.722-07:00This is what is called a hypothesis. The hypothesi...<i>This is what is called a hypothesis. The hypothesis as I understand it from what you wrote is that savage violence is something bred into the white stock during many generations in harshly cold conditions, compared to other races.</i><br /><br />And if it were true it would be an acknowledgement that whites, as a group, were somehow different from other groups. And if groups can differ in one way they can surely differ in others.<br /><br />The liberal mindset wants to have its cake and eat it of course. ie we are all the same except when whites are more horrible than everybody else.<br /><br />Its a common liberal assumption that only whites are racist. If that were true then its endorsing a racist assumption - not that whites are worse than others - but that one racial group is <i>different</i> from others.<br /><br />Allow one difference and logically you have to allow at least the <i>possibility</i> of others.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-85941095588893607732012-07-29T19:00:29.215-07:002012-07-29T19:00:29.215-07:00"..This type of violence is characteristic of..."..This type of violence is characteristic of white genetic lineages writer Michael Bradley argues in the Iceman Inheritance. White lineages, evolving in harsh cold climate environments, developed a more vicious killer instinct, honed to the rhythms of the hunt, and its linkage with sport (Ruston 1983, 1996) Selection for violence has carried down into today's white genetic stocks. Hence the most widespread criminal mass murder in history was carried out by white northern Europeans, lineal descendants of those selected by cold climate evolution..."<br /><br /><br />- This is what is called a hypothesis. The hypothesis as I understand it from what you wrote is that savage violence is something bred into the white stock during many generations in harshly cold conditions, compared to other races. Unfortunately, this hypothesis seems to fail even getting out of the gates, because underlying premises are false. Whites are far less savagely brutal than blacks, hispanics, and in fact most other races.<br /><br />Check out 'The Color of Crime' for raw numbers per capita, but black murder rates are vastly higher than whites- somewhere around 10 fold if memory serves correctly. Black rates of rape are astronomically higher than whites. Name pretty much any violent crime and you'll find blacks are doing it much more per capita. This is true even for crimes like serial killing. It only appears that whites are doing all the serial killing because 1) it is rare overall, 2)the rates per capita are actually higher for blacks than whites, but the discrepancy between the two races is less than for other crimes, and 3) whites are ~5-6x more abundant in the US than blacks. <br /><br />If savagery were somehow bred into whites in the cold, then why is the extremely rare crime of spree killing the only way it is expressed? (That is assuming that we take the original author at his word on the rates it occurs- I personally see little difference in the level of violence of a rare James Holmes gunning down 12 in a theater and the all-too-common black gangbanger mowing down a dozen homies in a drive-by). If savagery were bred into whites more than other races, we would expect that other violent crimes would also be higher than for other races. Murder, even brutal murders, are vastly more common than spree killngs and are committed far more often by blacks and even hispanics than whites; both of these groups evolvied in warmer climes than whites. If we were talking about any objective measure of savagery, these killings which number vastly more per year than the killings of the rare James Holmes would be the measure of it.<br /><br />Unfortunately, the reality is that politics is driving these sorts of hypotheses, not facts and reality. The powers that be, need a 'white people are evil' line from an expert to further persecute whitey and help blacks (and liberal whites) feel good so someone churns out some nonsense, and no one, the press, the scientist, significant portions of the population, pay attention to the fact that at the core, its claiming that up is down and green is blue.Seebohmnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-139542694556094282012-07-29T17:36:40.581-07:002012-07-29T17:36:40.581-07:00If the MSM were serious about this subject they wo...If the MSM were serious about this subject they would <i>never</i> divulge the race of a perp.<br /><br />The fact they are prepared to alter the narrative so blatantly is a sure sign, well, that its, er, blatant.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-42323932743217687552012-07-29T00:12:18.934-07:002012-07-29T00:12:18.934-07:00I should have said: if an insult to one person is ...I should have said: if an insult to one person is so bad that it is a news story, why does a NPR hide that news and use the occasion to inslut thousands of other people?<br />-Morgan CAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-2797443489615401042012-07-29T00:06:22.286-07:002012-07-29T00:06:22.286-07:00I'd love a post in which Steve explains why th...I'd love a post in which Steve explains why there are news stories that exist expressly to document the utterance of racial slurs, but fail to note what the racial slurs are. "N-word" would be sufficient, or even "naughty word for Middle-Easterners that rhymes with "flag head." I know from NPR that a police officer recently shouted a race-related word at a black Red Sox player, and I learned from the BBC that one UK soccer player used a "four-letter race slur" when talking to another socker player. In the soccer case, the identity of the slur would have helped me understand a great deal about the case, because the BBC report notes that slur-utterer exculpated himself in front of civil judicial authorities by arguing that the black player had used the unmentionable word first: in the white player's version, the black player said something like, "Don't call me a _________." Then (according the the same self-defense version of the events related by the white player), the white player answered along the lines of, "No I didn't. It doesn't make any sense that I would call you a _________." If _________ is an archaic term from the heyday of the British Empire, or if I have never previously heard _________, I believe the white player. Otherwise, I believe the black player. As things stand, the BBC has failed to shed light on the only issues in the story that interest me: the culture of athletes in the UK, what kinds of events British magistrates find plausible, and precisely what kind of speech gets people hauled into court in the UK. I get it that these types of stories are sometimes newsworthy, but without the central details, they amount to: "Something newsworthy happened, but some of our listeners are irresponsible jerks, so we won't say what it was." Why is a naked insult to listeners presented as a story? Honestly, why?<br />-Morgan CAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-22483039050190674902012-07-28T16:11:09.892-07:002012-07-28T16:11:09.892-07:00Anonymous: "The one thing that gives me hope ...Anonymous: "The one thing that gives me hope for the future of this country is the tidal wave of cynicism and exasperation that you inevitably see in the reader commentary on each of these race-crime stories.<br /><br />It's getting to the point where even most MSM outlets aren't bothering to delete the "objectionable" comments anymore.<br /><br />People are just getting sick and damned tired of all this Uganda/Rwanda/Zimbabwe crap from the NAMs."<br /><br />From little acorns...<br /><br />There are other small signs that cause me to be hopeful. Notice anything remarkable about this Wikipedia article?<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Ben_KinsellaLondonernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-90240737748667705282012-07-28T15:35:34.285-07:002012-07-28T15:35:34.285-07:00Don't ask me what the hell happened to my NYT ...Don't ask me what the hell happened to my NYT link. I distinctly remember including it but I still have to go with operator error on that one. Let's try again:<br /><br /><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2002/10/28/national/28SERI.html?pagewanted=all" rel="nofollow">Serial Killing's Squarest Pegs: Not Solo, White, Psychosexual or Picky</a><br /><br />^^^^ There's definitely a link there this time.Svigorhttp://svigor.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-15900806816597338582012-07-27T13:52:55.945-07:002012-07-27T13:52:55.945-07:00What stereotypes attach to James Holmes of CO, exa...<i>What stereotypes attach to James Holmes of CO, exactly? Is he supposed to be a Charles Whitman-esque timebomb? A spoiled trenchcoat mafia sociopath (crossed with VT's Cho)? Or an old-fashioned flyover-country serial killer? The assembled great minds of the media are having trouble fitting him into the right cubbyhole, even temporarily flirting with the prima-facie nonsensical "Tea Party angry white"</i><br /><br />He's a nerrrrrrd, a murderous and potentially genocidal nerd unable to accept his place in an absolutely perfect God-given society.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-70138537111254294832012-07-26T10:53:49.641-07:002012-07-26T10:53:49.641-07:00Anon:
I gather the Army was having problems getti...Anon:<br /><br />I gather the Army was having problems getting/keeping enough psychiatrists/psychologists to handle the huge upswing in PTSD cases from the wars. From what I've heard, the rate of this is much higher among soldiers than in earlier wars. I think partly this is because more of our soldiers now survive stuff that would formerly have killed them (but missing limbs and with brain damage), and contractors are doing a lot of the non-combat roles now, so a larger fraction of soldiers actually are in combat. So even a crazy, nonfunctional white psychiatrist might not have been pushed out.NOTAnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-21264146735322983732012-07-26T00:54:26.416-07:002012-07-26T00:54:26.416-07:00If Major Hasan was White he would be out of the Ar...If Major Hasan was White he would be out of the Army before he could what he did.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-17876029035626383452012-07-25T20:48:25.879-07:002012-07-25T20:48:25.879-07:00Albertosaurus,
Those of you in the Oakand Hills o...Albertosaurus,<br /><br />Those of you in the Oakand Hills ought to secede.<br /><br />Any damn progressives who wish to stay as part of the city of Oakland deserver the progressive POS city they have.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-16433298793793790612012-07-25T20:33:24.145-07:002012-07-25T20:33:24.145-07:00If Cho had a son, he'd look just like James......If Cho had a son, he'd look just like James...Sammynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-52566264858555851192012-07-25T20:31:08.528-07:002012-07-25T20:31:08.528-07:00" wonder if James Holmes was any realtion of ..." wonder if James Holmes was any realtion of the late, great John Holmes ('Johnny Wadd'), who, ironically was accused himself of participating in a massacre up in LA's Laurel Canyon."<br /><br /><br />- Doubt it. Didn't he say he was 'short/average' ?Uncanny Petenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-25283951848814468232012-07-25T17:57:19.730-07:002012-07-25T17:57:19.730-07:00On another front, a number of scholars hold that s...<i> On another front, a number of scholars hold that spree killers, are almost always white- some 95% of them statistics show. </i> <br /><br /><br />It's a remarkable fact that in mostly white countries, spree killers are mostly white. Scholars scratch their heads in amazement.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-22223747805290532322012-07-25T17:52:58.899-07:002012-07-25T17:52:58.899-07:00"Did Holmes work in a McDonald's after gr..."Did Holmes work in a McDonald's after graduation with a science degree because the market is that bad for grads now or was it because he was weird as hell to anyone who was in a room with him?"<br /><br />- The social ineptitude may be part of it, but frankly based on his credentials, he probably would've had difficulty anyway. As everyone knows, its a crappy job market. At this point, one can even find some PhDs taking technician level jobs that ordinarily would go to BS degree holders. Freshly-minted Biology B.S. degree recipents often have to hustle to find jobs even in a good market. He did nothing extraordinary, was an average student, his experience was limited and basic, nothing that would make him particularly valuable to an employee, not much more than dissecting some birds and mice. He probably had crappy refs- he was hired to write a program and did a half-assed job at it.<br /><br />If I were an employer, particularly in this market, I'd keep looking too.Franknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-75072210812108812702012-07-25T14:24:46.823-07:002012-07-25T14:24:46.823-07:00Carney:
Most of the mass casualty attacks of the ...Carney:<br /><br />Most of the mass casualty attacks of the last several years in the US weren't related at all to a Muslim. Other than the Ft Hood shooting, you have to go back to 9/11 to get one in the US. And the 9/11 attack is a completely different sort of beast than a mass shooting--a multi-year 20+ person conspiracy crossing multiple international borders and involving many steps that had to evade detection by authorities vs one guy walking into his work with a handgun and blowing some people away till someone shot him. Otherwise, we've had a few ineffectual attempts at attacks by Muslim extremists, why are mostly too incompetent to get the fuse lit properly. We've also had animal rights and environmentalist and Christian fundamentalist wacko attacks and conspiracies that I think were about as effective, in general. <br /><br />Now, overseas is a different matter. But inside the US, if there are a whole lot of Muslim fanatics who want to blow up Americans and die in the process, they're sure not managing to carry out many attacks.NOTAnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-53083766520601681132012-07-25T13:32:11.490-07:002012-07-25T13:32:11.490-07:00I find it hard to get exercised about killings lik...I find it hard to get exercised about killings like these. It's all very shocking and I feel sorry for the victims and their families but surely we have had enough TV news coverage. These kind of shootings are just background noise in a country this size.<br /><br />Let's say that there is one of these random mad-man "Shoot 'em Ups" incidents each year. I think that's an overestimate but I'll stipulate to the figure of 12 deaths a year in the US. That means that I can expect 12 people to die at an average distance of 1,500 miles from me (half the width of the nation) each year.<br /><br />On the other hand here in Oakland we have about 120 murders each year and they are all considerably closer. A murder rate ten times as high and a proximity figure a hundred times closer. I'm not going to worry about getting shot in a movie theater - especially since I have a Home Theater.<br /><br />Local government has stopped police patrols in my neighborhood. They already have changed 911 procedures such that they only respond to felonies in progress. Cops in Oakland have had pensions of 90% of their salary starting at age 50. Property revenues dropped 20% three years ago. Cop rolls have dropped 25% and those left have been reassigned out of the hills. The City can't really afford cops anymore.<br /><br />We need at least a bankruptcy. Better yet would be secession. The affluent hills voted to raise property taxes for more cops but those cops were assigned elsewhere. It's a sort of "Taxation without Representation" thingee. Money is raised in the hills and spent in the flat-lands. Redistribution?<br /><br />AlbertosaurusPat Boylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13477950851915567863noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-67609024566768819392012-07-25T10:48:33.984-07:002012-07-25T10:48:33.984-07:00This rule needs modification. When the crime is ...This rule needs modification. When the crime is a mass casualty attack on random people, the suspect is a Muslim unless proven otherwise.Carneynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-70876307302928230922012-07-25T09:58:08.583-07:002012-07-25T09:58:08.583-07:00Did Holmes work in a McDonald's after graduati...Did Holmes work in a McDonald's after graduation with a science degree because the market is that bad for grads now or was it because he was weird as hell to anyone who was in a room with him?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-358449469584380292012-07-25T08:52:13.944-07:002012-07-25T08:52:13.944-07:00""THe media is DYING to find a white mal...<i>""THe media is DYING to find a white male to vent their hate, project their narrative.."<br /><br />They never have to look far."</i><br /><br />Right, and nobody knows that better than Richard Jewell.Kylienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-62160617382656207072012-07-25T07:43:48.045-07:002012-07-25T07:43:48.045-07:00His race could be relevant, and there is nothing w...His race could be relevant, and there is nothing wrong with police in profiling for race. The MSM refusal to show the reality is just part of decline we as a nation face. On another front, a number of scholars hold that spree killers, are almost always white- some 95% of them statistics show. This type of violence is characteristic of white genetic lineages writer Michael Bradley argues in the Iceman Inheritance. White lineages, evolving in harsh cold climate environments, developed a more vicious killer instinct, honed to the rhythms of the hunt, and its linkage with sport (Ruston 1983, 1996) Selection for violence has carried down into today's white genetic stocks. Hence the most widespread criminal mass murder in history was carried out by white northern Europeans, lineal descendants of those selected by cold climate evolution. Seen in this sense the argument goes, it is not at all surprising that people like Holmes and Brevik (who killed 71 people- some as young as 12 years old) do what they do. The tendency for violence is inbred into white genetic lineages, honed in cold climates for millennia. This may not be a bad thing for it links with military strength and a drive to succeed, something being sapped by the NAM friendly media.Santratyndalenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-40627282459775071322012-07-25T07:33:30.472-07:002012-07-25T07:33:30.472-07:00I wonder if James Holmes was any realtion of the l...I wonder if James Holmes was any realtion of the late, great John Holmes ('Johnny Wadd'), who, ironically was accused himself of participating in a massacre up in LA's Laurel Canyon.<br />'Bludgeoned?' - ran a sick 'joke' of the period (1981), 'Holmes was running through the house naked and rapidly turned a corner without warning anybody'.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-43261657515465747692012-07-25T07:30:02.525-07:002012-07-25T07:30:02.525-07:00On the 'chicken wings' murder -
"A s...On the 'chicken wings' murder -<br /> "A shark's feeding frenzy has better table manners", or should I say fin etiquette.<br /><br />It's noteworthy that the cannibals who murdered the unfortunate Mexican chef drove away in a Cadillac Esplanade. Says it all really.<br /><br />Anyway, since 'cheap' latin American labor in the USA has been reduced to the absolute irreducible eat-the-dust minimum (courtesy of 'The Economist' TM), it is sobering to think that the price of a mexican's life is not worth, literally, a plate of chicken wings. Infact the live broiler chicken that provided the wings probably had a higher cash worth to the Cadillac driving cannibals than the unfortunate Jose' did.<br /> The great satirist (i recommend him highly) Jonathan Swift once, only half in jest wrote an essay saying that the Dublin poor should eat their own children and sell the skin to tanneries for leather.<br /> Alas, modern multi-culti, porno wonderland, 57 varieties of immigrant LA fits that bill, perhaps in the future, the rationalists at 'The Economist' will recommend cutting out the middle man and frying up deep fried steak of Mexican to the Cadillac driving class of cannibals.<br />Tsk tsk tsk, Oh Whitey, why hast thou forsaken thee!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-60107083694786990592012-07-25T07:24:21.966-07:002012-07-25T07:24:21.966-07:00"Anonymous said...
Geeks and guns don't ..."Anonymous said...<br /><br />Geeks and guns don't mix."<br /><br />Not true. Crazy and guns don't mix.Mr. Anonnoreply@blogger.com