tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post3106429258492572654..comments2024-03-28T16:22:14.888-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: The best defense is a good offense: QuebecUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger91125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-84693530619444760422013-03-27T19:43:50.353-07:002013-03-27T19:43:50.353-07:00"Again, may i extend again that invitation to..."Again, may i extend again that invitation to visit us?"<br /><br />No thanks. Nothing would make me happier then to see Quebec leave confederation. We'll keep the 7 billion in "equalization" payments you shake us down for each year and you guys take 23% (your population share) of the national debt, which was largely created by French-Canadians like Pierre Trudeau. And after you separate, I hope I never hear another word of joual-'French' ever again in my life.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-7312314979143690082013-03-27T18:47:20.358-07:002013-03-27T18:47:20.358-07:00Thanks for your support Isabel.
Sorry Anonymous a...Thanks for your support Isabel.<br /><br />Sorry Anonymous at 3:25, you'll have to look a bit further. The forces actually present at that battle were roughly equal in numbers. French militiamen were 'irregulars' not trained, unlike the bulk of British soldiers, for set-piece battles. Sturdier French forces soundly defeated the British later at Sainte-Foy, but had to pull out because, yes, of the superior British navy.<br /><br />Finally, it is a bit puzzling to see so many here hate hate hate us with a vengeance, while getting only of Quebec the highly distorted view the Canadian mainstream media feeds them. Again, may I extend again that invitation to visit us ? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-71079135693317560782013-03-27T15:25:11.782-07:002013-03-27T15:25:11.782-07:00To isabel said;
New France had a manpower militia...To isabel said;<br /><br />New France had a manpower militia supply available of about 14,000-16,000 military age males. It also had a number of regular French field battalions available for defense. Wolfe had only about 3,300 troops available at the Plains of Abraham. He was actually quite outnumbered. The French lost partly because of the disastrous tactics of Montcalm, but mainly due to the discipline and courage of the British soldiers. See the book France in America.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-72551900155442803152013-03-26T18:31:22.271-07:002013-03-26T18:31:22.271-07:00"Mr.Sailer, I'm impressed by your knowled..."Mr.Sailer, I'm impressed by your knowledge of Quebec history. "<br /><br />You are? Really?<br /><br />"Actually, that battle at the Plains of Abraham wasn't even a fair fight. A good part of the French forces were local milita, as the bulk of the French army had been sent back to France after inflicting severe drubbings on the Englsih on many occasions.<br /><br />France was a continental power that simply did not have the navy the British had. Thus, the British could use their strategic mobility to overwhelm isolated French forces.<br /><br />And I think my 'trapper' ancestors did pretty well before and after the Conquest. How many successful nations were built by Europeans in climates actually harsher than Scandinavia's ? The Viking colonies in Greenland are long gone, while here, well, come visit Montreal this summer and you'll see how we've done."<br /><br />Most rational comment on this hysteria-fueled thread. Honestly, the bigotry and ignorance is surprising, even for this blog. And such crybabies, jeez grow a pair, I mean that's what you tell everybody else, right?Isabelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-33110601698375061322013-03-25T21:18:53.998-07:002013-03-25T21:18:53.998-07:00"I can't wait to see how Montreal tranfor..."I can't wait to see how Montreal tranforms itself in the next fifty years."<br /><br />I very seriously doubt Canada OR the USA will be around in 2063.<br /><br />BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-23925095090912322932013-03-25T20:03:26.473-07:002013-03-25T20:03:26.473-07:00Comparing Paul Fromm with Louis Riel; that's s...Comparing Paul Fromm with Louis Riel; that's something I'd never have expected. Not sure what to make of it...Will S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02714519301979594160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-32480125957130739742013-03-25T19:54:29.347-07:002013-03-25T19:54:29.347-07:00Louis Riel is one of those guys that
all Canadian...Louis Riel is one of those guys that <br />all Canadians have heard of but hardly any Americans. Paul Fromm seems to fit that role today. fnnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-75022414689610387902013-03-25T14:23:30.744-07:002013-03-25T14:23:30.744-07:00BTW, no-one drinks sweet tea in Toronto; and most ...BTW, no-one drinks sweet tea in Toronto; and most of the UEL who came here were from New York; most of the southern UEL went elsewhere, like the Bahamas, for example. Northerners, came here. If you all weren't so navel-gazing, you might know that.Will S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02714519301979594160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-47070101839986073922013-03-25T13:06:48.279-07:002013-03-25T13:06:48.279-07:00@ 748: Not my boy; if you've read all my comme...@ 748: Not my boy; if you've read all my comments, you'd see I don't vote.<br /><br />That said, I'm glad our government celebrates our history. But the French-Canadian tail has wagged the English-Canadian dog for too long (prior to Harper, who's been in power nine years, we had a 36-year period wherein for 34.5 of them, all our PMs came from Quebec, and only one of those Quebeckers wasn't French-Canadian, Mulroney - Irish-Canadian; we've had enough, which is why Harper, an Anglo from Alberta, has been in power this long, with help from the collapse of the Liberals of course); hence Harper's appeal. It's about time English Canadians ran Canada again; it's our country, more than it is theirs (French-Canadians comprise only 1/4 of the country; why should a minority hold the majority hostage? No more!)<br /><br />@ 6:27: Actually, I'm not UEL; my people are Scotch-Irish who came here during the potato famines, in the 1820s. Not all English-Canadians are UEL, you know. Many settler colonists, and potato famine refugees, like my folk; plus immigrants from the U.K. through the early 20th century, and even post-WWII...<br /><br />So yes, you're right; 'les Canadiens' do see us as newcomers; but we beat them fair and square on the Plains of Abraham; pity we were so merciful in victory. Lesson for others: when you defeat an enemy, defeat him totally; deport them all / sterilize all the men / kill them all / whatever solution seems most workable and/or humane; I prefer deportation myself, being not genocidal like Pol Pot, Stalin, Hitler, though I admit the utter effectiveness of total genocide, if carried through. Regardless, show no mercy; give no quarter. Else the enemy will rise again later, and your apparent mercy will come back to bite you in the ass. Total destruction of one's enemies, by whatever means, is the only way to guarantee they won't revive to defeat you again. Inhumane? Perhaps. But does / would it work? Well, consider, in ancient times, all the peoples slaughtered who no longer exist, to be any sort of threat. Or if they exist, because they were only mostly slaughtered, look how politically impotent they are, e.g. the Copts of Egypt, the Assyrians of Mesopotamia... Wiping out, either completely, or largely, by whatever means, one's enemies, is the only way to prevent them re-rising against you. Let us all remember that, for future. BTW, next time Europe starts a WW, no 'Marshall Plan' for them afterwards; let them suffer, even the allies; let them fix their economies themselves; then it'll take longer, and they won't be economic rivals / geopolitical rivals. No aid, to any nations, ever, regardless. Let everyone sink or swim, on their own abilities. (If it weren't for U.S. aid to Israel, they'd have had to either come to grips with their Arab neighbours, or wiped them out mercilessly; either way would be preferable to the status quo.)<br /><br />Fuck mercy; it's not a quality nations can afford. Best left to individuals.Will S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02714519301979594160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-51207248296065507502013-03-25T08:34:04.789-07:002013-03-25T08:34:04.789-07:00"Quebec isn't Zimbabwe."
Well that&..."Quebec isn't Zimbabwe."<br /><br />Well that's true, however when the Bank of Montreal's headquarters is at First Canadian Place in Toronto, perhaps there is a little Zimbabwe in us after all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-49966032868542457412013-03-25T07:48:18.903-07:002013-03-25T07:48:18.903-07:00"unlike the French, we English-Canadians are ..."unlike the French, we English-Canadians are quite prepared to let bygones be bygones."<br /><br />Your boy Harper produced so much of <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38BO7GI0vQQ" rel="nofollow"> this crap</a> last year that even Canadians began to <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FAyE6Mqf8Q" rel="nofollow"> question the narrative</a>. In the end, the War of 1812 settled the question of who would run North America going forward and it was not the French (or the Indians), but the British(English Canada) and the Americans. So I understand why the Quebecois want a new deal, hell it's been 200 years.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-20387909304355891452013-03-25T06:27:46.035-07:002013-03-25T06:27:46.035-07:00English North America was virtually just the 13 co...English North America was virtually just the 13 colonies + Halifax and the Newfies in 1776. The 13 colonies succeeded in their revolution/civil war. Yes, there was a civil war that went on concurrent to the American Revolution, between the Tories and Whigs, especially in the southern colonies. It was brutal and the Tories were expelled after the military fiascos at Kings Mountain, Cowpens and finally Yorktown. The Tories' world collapsed in about an 18 month period. They ended up as refugees by the thousands in places like Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, Southern Quebec, Niagara and Eastern Ontario. The sons of these guys burned the White House in the War of 1812, killed Daniel Boone's son and they are still sipping sweet tea in Toronto to this day. Newfoundland didn't join Canada until 1948 so really if you exclude the Newfies and the 13 colonies from consideration, English Canada prior to 1776 was really Halifax, Cape Breton and a scattering of settlements in the Maritimes. The rest of Canada was French. So I agree that the current English Canada is a construct of the American Revolution and it probably shouldn't really exist except for the outcome of that revolution. And frankly, just like the Indians, the Quebecois screwed up by not joining the Americans as a state when they were given the opportunity in the Articles of Confederation prior to 1787. But that's a whole other story.<br /><br />Will S. your ancestors were probably from Charleston or Savannah. If so, you're just a Canadian newcomer in the eyes of the Quebecois.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-4485570436873242392013-03-24T23:19:57.796-07:002013-03-24T23:19:57.796-07:00Yes, and if I were a leftist or a neocon, or other...Yes, and if I were a leftist or a neocon, or other paranoid type, that might actually apply to me. Doesn't, though. Nice try.Will S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02714519301979594160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-61334111341580442312013-03-24T23:15:43.099-07:002013-03-24T23:15:43.099-07:00"This thread really has brought out the freak..."This thread really has brought out the freaks, and the idiots."- Will S.<br /><br />"The psychological concept of “projection” explains much about modern political rhetoric. It’s a process by which accusations often reflect the accuser rather than the accused."- Steve Sailer<br />Jonathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15355433272590714167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-85851917817758928882013-03-24T23:08:07.813-07:002013-03-24T23:08:07.813-07:00Let me put it into terms so everyone can understan...Let me put it into terms so everyone can understand it: I'm like a nostalgic Southroner who wishes Dixie 'woulda won', yet DOESN'T embrace the modern-day secessionist movement, and remains committed to the United States as it currently exists. I know in this part of the 'net, there are more neo-secesh types, but I'm sure y'all know less radical types, of the kind of which I speak, amongst your friends, neighbours, family, coworkers, whatever.<br /><br />I'm the same as regards Canadian politics. And I'm not alone; lots of English-Canadians feel the same way. There certainly are ohers who wish Quebec would leave, but I'm not one of them; I don't want to see my country split into two unconnected pieces, and likely splintered further afterwards. I believe in trying to make Canada work, as it exists, intact, despite my wishes about what mighta been.<br /><br />There. Can y'all understand that? I'm sure you can, if you try.<br /><br />P.S. The reason why Jews have been opposed to Quebec separatism is two-fold: (a) culturally, and economically, they've been historically part of the English-speaking establishment in Montreal, notwithstanding originally being shut out from certain clubs, etc.; they largely identify as Anglo (except for a few Moroccan Sephardic, francophone Jews; I've met one); and (b) they remember the attitudes of French-Canadians during the past; their support for Father Coughlin and the like; their opposition to Canada's involvement in WWII, and the quasi-fascist tendencies of the Union Nationale. As a result, they want no part of an independent Quebec.Will S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02714519301979594160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-78091009163972563392013-03-24T22:49:29.005-07:002013-03-24T22:49:29.005-07:00I KNEW someone would ridiculously, absurdly accuse...I KNEW someone would ridiculously, absurdly accuse me of that, despite the fact that (a) I was expressing what WOULD HAVE been best, IMO, back then, and (b) I explicitly said, if you go back thru my comments, that there's nothing we can do about it NOW, and we just have to learn to live together. Reading comprehension fail...<br /><br />This thread really has brought out the freaks, and the idiots.Will S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02714519301979594160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-33414566030511700262013-03-24T22:39:56.485-07:002013-03-24T22:39:56.485-07:00"unlike the French, we English-Canadians are ..."unlike the French, we English-Canadians are quite prepared to let bygones be bygones."<br /><br />LOL, that's the same guy who see Quebecers as a nuisance in Canada since 1759 and wish they had been deported a long time ago. <br /><br />Jonathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15355433272590714167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-86386031680205083222013-03-24T22:18:11.362-07:002013-03-24T22:18:11.362-07:008:44, the French lost New France to the English in...8:44, the French lost New France to the English in 1759, before the American Revolution; they've been annoyed ever since then, even before the Loyalists arrived.<br /><br />I don't know what kind of weirdo geopolitical masturbatory fantasy world you live in, but we're not interested in reclaiming American territory. We have our own country, up here; 1776 was a long time ago; unlike the French, we English-Canadians are quite prepared to let bygones be bygones.Will S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02714519301979594160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-10114885656971720442013-03-24T20:44:18.373-07:002013-03-24T20:44:18.373-07:00English Canada only exists because of the American...English Canada only exists because of the American Revolution. Loyalists expelled from the US had to have somewhere to land. English Canada is the West Bank of the United States. No wonder the Quebecois are pissed off. Perhaps they should encourage the United Empire Loyalists to become the PLO?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-64182005221380288142013-03-24T20:05:00.455-07:002013-03-24T20:05:00.455-07:00@ Seattle: I thought "The Trees" was abo...@ Seattle: I thought "The Trees" was about Canucks and Yanks (Maples and Oaks)...Will S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02714519301979594160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-12148821615502477102013-03-24T19:21:09.663-07:002013-03-24T19:21:09.663-07:00A few thoughts...
1) The idea that French speaker...A few thoughts...<br /><br />1) The idea that French speakers in Quebec were ill-treated and subject to oppression sounds pretty lame to me. Quebec has always had a majority French population, a French premier and the Quebec government is composed of 95% Francophones. What southern state has had a black governor continually since the civil war, with a black government and bureuacracy? The idea that French-Canadians were "white N******" is absurd. The comparison is ludicrous.<br /><br />2) Why couldn't the Francophones have been assimilated after 1840 (Durham's report). Take Ireland. About 1,000,000 Irish left that decade. They were all nominally British subjects. Why couldn't the British government have provided them with strong economic incentives to settle specifically in Quebec? This one action alone would have made the Francophones a minority. Instead they largely went to the USA.<br /><br />3) One other thing is clear. Quebec's share of the Canadian population is going to continue to decline. Quebec was Canada's kingmaker in times past. Those days will soon be coming to an end. I can't see any repeat of the 1972 election when Quebec was able to impose its will on the rest of the country.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-8375704687682831802013-03-24T19:01:14.746-07:002013-03-24T19:01:14.746-07:00My grandfather, a Scottish immigrant, worked as an...My grandfather, a Scottish immigrant, worked as an engineer at a paper mill outside of Quebec. He retired to Ottawa in the early eighties. One of the main reasons was medical care. I remember him saying he wasn't confident that a French speaking doctor would even treat him, or would let him out alive if they did. <br /><br />My dad mentioned once that the French speaking workers were treated like dogs. His words, and he wasn't someone to exaggerate, though he never went into detail. I know the ownership and management of the mill where my Grandfather worked were all English speakers. There was more going on at the time than just ethnic pride or politics, despite the ridiculousness of the resulting dual-language rules. <br /><br />Bit of trivia: The Rush song "Trees" is about the French labor movement. <br /><br /><i>The Maples formed a union and demanded equal rights. The Oaks are just to greedy. We will make them give us light. Now there's no more Oak oppression. For they passed a noble law. And the trees are all kept equal. By hatchet, axe, and saw.</i>Chief Seattlenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-80618644563938662062013-03-24T18:06:44.203-07:002013-03-24T18:06:44.203-07:00Montreal is around 30% non-white today. Most of t...Montreal is around 30% non-white today. Most of these people come from primarily French-speaking nations, but there are a number of Latin Americans and Jamaicans as well. A heck of a lot of them are being encouraged to come to Quebec to make as suitable mates for overweight Quebecois women. I am being serious here. <br /><br />It seems that the most vocal and buoyant element of the Montreal political class are overweight Quebecois women. The current premier is one and she is definitely prototypical. You'd be shocked by the number of larger Quebecois women in their 30's and 40's cohabiting with Mexican, Haitian, Tunisian or Algerian men in greater Montreal. This trend has the hallmark of being mutual beneficial for all parties involved. The young immigrant males are fast-tracked to citizenship while these females, who ordinarily would be placed in the scrapheap, are getting some loving from some young foreign bucks. It also augments their progressive left-wing credentials. <br /><br />Montreal is a funny place, full of ambiguities and shifting identities. It has to be one of the snobbiest places on earth. Someone made a comment earlier about his father being looked down upon in a downtown Montreal store back in the day because he looked and acted like like a Frenchie. You know, that attitude still exists to a certain extent even today, at least in downtown. Try going to a Montreal Canadiens hockey game. You'll find hardly any pure laine Quebecois there. Or if there are pure lainers, they'll do their best to hide it, especially if they are sitting in the lower bowl. I remember going to a Canadiens playoff game back in 2002 and seeing a 40-something pure laine Quebecois guy muttering some outwardly hostile gibberish in his thick Chicoutimi-area accent whenever the opposition scored a goal. Everyone was laughing at him and looking down on him like a clown. <br /><br />Montreal still has a strong Italian vibe. Also, a Jewish one. Downtown also has a lot of anglo transplants from all over Canada. <br /><br />If you're French, you definitely at an advantage in Montreal, but only in the bloated government spheres, government-affiliated industries and the media. The enormous publicly-funded tertiary education system of Quebec encourages victimhood amongst the Quebecois and working for the government. The cycle repeats itself over generations. A special place is also given at these institutions to minorities who speak French, encourage Quebecois nationalism and play the victim card. Ingenuity amongst these sorts is sorely lacking.<br /><br />It is the other communities which quietly keep Montreal afloat on a day-to-day basis. Most restaurants seem to be run by Italians, even in the predominately French-speaking areas. Jews are still heavy in the engineering and tech firms. You'd also be surprised at the inroads that Indians are making in Montreal. Anglos and Jews are still big in prime real estate.<br /><br />Parti Quebecois-inspired architecture in Montreal is the dregs. Most of the outwardly beautiful edifices in Montreal were built by WASPs. No one ever seems to mention that. <br /><br />I can't wait to see how Montreal transforms itself in 50 years. I love the city, but I hate the politics.Canadian Observernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-10567978453261579322013-03-24T16:45:51.873-07:002013-03-24T16:45:51.873-07:00The "primary" reason Quebec is not indep...The "primary" reason Quebec is not independent is because of the Jews? How absurd. There are few Jews there, most have left, and they have no political power. Quebec itself never voted for independence. They had their chances over and over- what did Canada call the referendum - the Neverendum? And it is the French Quebecers themselves who are bringing in Arab French speakers from North Africa. They are demanding them in fact, thinking the French language is above all. They are suicidal and foolish of course. Do you think Jews want them in? Quebec quit having children - no one's fault but their own. And let them be independent - what does it matter to anyone? Even Canada is sick of it. If they break away, they break away. Toronto and Ontario don't need them and either does the west. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-74020881473847075922013-03-24T16:45:09.168-07:002013-03-24T16:45:09.168-07:00I'm always astonished to see English-Canadians...I'm always astonished to see English-Canadians seething against how badly they are treated in Quebec. In most of greater Montreal, you can get served in English in all public places. Heck, they often can't even serve you in French. There are English-speaking radio stations, TV stations, 3 publicly-funded universities, etc. All of this is quite normal, as English-speakers are citizens who pay taxes and fully contribute to society.<br /><br />Still, I'm old enough to have seen my father, a proud, distinguished bilingual man, being disdainfully turned away in a downtown Montreal store because he 'sounded' French.<br /><br />Ok, there was never apartheid or Jim Crow laws in Quebec, but sometimes I so wish we would treat them as they treated us.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com