tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post3331192238547214034..comments2024-03-28T16:22:14.888-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: Finnish ContentUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger39125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-66902650129083747302011-06-17T14:35:48.905-07:002011-06-17T14:35:48.905-07:00Actually, I'd be interested in Steve's tak...Actually, I'd be interested in Steve's take on why the <br />"best cities" polls are all so insane. All the points are awarded on things like number of experimental theaters and proximity to parks that mean absolutely zero to most people. Some measure of "wages vs. cost of living" should be about 75 percent of all those things because that's the one thing people care most about -- being able to afford a nice home in an attractive neighborhood filled with functional people. Everything else is an afterthought but they always choose places like Zurich where a dumpy apartment will cost $5 million.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-54924044474438820312011-06-17T14:24:24.455-07:002011-06-17T14:24:24.455-07:00"Italy, Spain, Portugal and Greece are all et..."Italy, Spain, Portugal and Greece are all ethnically homogeneous compared to the UK, France or Germany"<br /><br />Wrong. It's 2011, not 1991. There has been massive third world immigration to Southern Europe since your perceptions were formed. For example, you can't go anywhere in Italy now without seeing hordes of black Africans loitering in the street like it was Detroit.ATBOTLnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-46602442187318517732011-06-17T10:18:46.043-07:002011-06-17T10:18:46.043-07:00Get Off My Lawn said...
Italy, Spain, Portugal an...<i>Get Off My Lawn said...<br /><br />Italy, Spain, Portugal and Greece are all ethnically homogeneous compared to the UK, France or Germany</i><br /><br />Not so much, foreign-born percentage of total population:<br /><br />6.5 Italy<br />12.3 Spain<br />4.2 Portugal<br />8.3 Greece<br />9.1 UK<br />5.8 France<br />8.8 Germany<br /><br />Granted, countries like France and the UK probably have larger native-born foreign ethnics, but to a first approximation these countries down neatly break into the two divisions you think.Disunited we Fallnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-57416123477505557352011-06-17T10:00:53.210-07:002011-06-17T10:00:53.210-07:00Finland usually hits the Bottom 5 for Gini coeffic...Finland usually hits the Bottom 5 for Gini coefficients of developed nations too. I wonder how all the status-income disequilibrated journalists writing up the Income Inequality Apocalypse really feel about Japan, Utah, or North Korea. Perhaps they furtively admire those societies in which they wouldn't be so financially irrelevant...Goo goos in paradisenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-76866910312633677052011-06-17T08:36:00.327-07:002011-06-17T08:36:00.327-07:00"The other unmentionable is that they suddenl..."The other unmentionable is that they suddenly got the idea that socialism might be a nice idea just after the poorest fifth of their population had just moved to North America. What are the odds, eh? It worked out great for us, because America didn't believe that only petty oppressors were intelligent. But it was a helluva jumpstart on all that fine fellow-feeling they pride themselves on."<br />The poorest never went to America. Couldn't afford it. Also, the immigrant population was probably more intelligent and hardworking than their social peers back home. <br /><br />By the way, what's up with this "white communities = boring" shit? Yeah, if it's some suburban enclave of ex-yuppies, sure (those places are great to raise family, though), but white people has shown, from Athens to Paris, that they can create a cool city life. <br /><br />I'm more and more starting to think that the Finns are a bit smarter than the Swedes and Danes. Maybe those Asian genes have paid off? Of course, it could just be that they work harder or have a strong culture. <br /><br />Socialism in Scandinavia - it wasn't really pure 'socialism', but whatever - will soon be simply a memory. Mass immigration, unloyal elites, weaking of community bonds, etc. will turn the countries into Latin America Lite: big income inequalities, an more or less ethnic class system, corruption, crime & chaos. Thanks a lot, Establishment...Howard Hughesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-78257116748047959682011-06-17T00:20:33.538-07:002011-06-17T00:20:33.538-07:00DanJ sez: "I'd nominate some city on the...DanJ sez: "I'd nominate some city on the northern shores of the Mediterranean instead. Sorry."<br /><br />Agreed.<br /><br />If they took quality of life seriously, the winner every year would be one of Barcelona, Nice, Rome, or Naples. Maybe throw in Tokyo or Athens once in a while for variety.<br /><br />The mission of a magazine is to grab your interest with something new every month. Picking some frozen quiet backwater -- however pleasant -- as the top quality of life city is classic man-bites-dog and manufactured pseudo news.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-88384647116356575542011-06-16T21:51:16.082-07:002011-06-16T21:51:16.082-07:00An Anonymous said:
All white communities can be q...An Anonymous said:<br /><br /><i>All white communities can be quiet and nice but dull as hell.</i><br /><br /><br />I've noted on this phenomenom elsewhere, yet none the less at the end, each other group ( ethnic, religious, whatever ) is just as dull as well, and I should sooner be dull with my own kind --- however little I think of them --- than have others' tedious exciting ways forced upon my living.Claverhousehttp://www.serene-falcon.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-76521064606874319562011-06-16T21:31:30.611-07:002011-06-16T21:31:30.611-07:00"All white communities can be quiet and nice ..."All white communities can be quiet and nice but dull as hell. "<br /><br />You're obviously unfamiliar with the southern U.S....SouthernAnonyianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-30912563153857073022011-06-16T20:45:04.504-07:002011-06-16T20:45:04.504-07:00Steve,
You may not be familiar with the editor of...Steve,<br /><br />You may not be familiar with the editor of Monocle, Tyler Brûlé, so let me fill in a few blanks for you. He's no diversity champion. His favorite city to visit is Tokyo, and he has a summer house in Sweden. He's also gay, and has written about the disapproving attitude he and his boyfriend got when he lived in Switzerland (which weighs against Zurich on his list). <br /><br />Other than being gay, and liking places that are gay-friendly, Brûlé isn't much of a progressive. He's more traditional/conservative.Frednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-85072908189647053732011-06-16T20:39:16.786-07:002011-06-16T20:39:16.786-07:00anony-mouse said...
Whenever I mention that peopl...<i>anony-mouse said...<br /><br />Whenever I mention that people here should move to the low unemployment Finland-y areas of the US (cold and white) nobody ever does.</i><br /><br />Actually, middle-class whites have been leaving California in droves for many years starting with the Pacific Northwest (WA, OR), spreading to the Southwest (AZ, NV, CO) and more recently the Mountain States (UT, ID) and beyond (TX, SE and even back to Midwest roots).<br /><br />Businesses have consistently been moving out of CA for awhile as well.<br /><br />Something like 1% of Californians pay over 50% of income tax now. Also, there are more net tax eaters than payers so taxes are unlikely to ever catch up to expenditures via the democratic process.Ex Californianonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-24209618674242640832011-06-16T20:17:46.723-07:002011-06-16T20:17:46.723-07:00Speaking of urban riots in non-diverse cities, hav...Speaking of urban riots in non-diverse cities, have you seen the <a href="http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/06/16/photos-riots-fire-destruction-after-vancouvers-loss/" rel="nofollow">pictures</a> of the one in Vancouver? <br /><br />Us--the white folks who are not Finns--still got what it takes.Has to benoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-13041487817567074032011-06-16T19:43:43.198-07:002011-06-16T19:43:43.198-07:00How can this be? Isn't diversity supposed to b...How can this be? Isn't diversity supposed to be such a "strength"?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-74428658184687993542011-06-16T19:16:49.475-07:002011-06-16T19:16:49.475-07:00The Scandinavian lifestyle appeals to most all, bu...The Scandinavian lifestyle appeals to most all, but only the Scandinavians have been able to pull them off. <br /><br />I recall reading an interview with some South American politician, maybe the Mayor of Bogata or something. He was talking about well run cities and he said that he liked Northern European ones. I think he singled out Copenhagen and Amsterdam and such. <br /><br />I was kind of impressed with the guys honesty and good sense. He must not have heard how undiverse, and hence evil they are.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-24931254992458688352011-06-16T19:15:53.807-07:002011-06-16T19:15:53.807-07:00Finland seems like a nice place, but you can't...Finland seems like a nice place, but you can't judge a city just by its demographics; right now people are rioting in Vancouver.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-25415903237003467982011-06-16T19:10:26.283-07:002011-06-16T19:10:26.283-07:00"Perhaps it is less homogeneity than the kind..."Perhaps it is less homogeneity than the kind of people being homogenous that matters"<br /><br />I think homogeniety is beneficial in itself, take Botswana as an example -<br /><br />http://www.thecasualtruth.com/node/213<br /><br />- but the benefit is proportional to the frequency of certain traits among the human capital in question e.g. co-operativeness and IQ.<br /><br />Ethno-states ftw.Wandrinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-31869348675920713542011-06-16T17:49:10.122-07:002011-06-16T17:49:10.122-07:00Whenever I mention that people here should move to...Whenever I mention that people here should move to the low unemployment Finland-y areas of the US (cold and white) nobody ever does.<br /><br />Like so many things, people like it-from afar.<br /><br />Meanwhile they sit in SoCal and complainanony-mousenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-18390688350445028592011-06-16T17:19:46.986-07:002011-06-16T17:19:46.986-07:00Keep in mind this is a country where the governmen...Keep in mind this is a country where the government has to regulate alcohol content of local brews to keep the populous from drinking themselves to death. Although a lot of people just circumvent it by importing. This kind of thing is common in the Scandinavian nations, might have something to do with the weather I suppose.Kaznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-83484973997023889482011-06-16T16:47:30.941-07:002011-06-16T16:47:30.941-07:00Anyway, one interesting point that progressives ha...<i>Anyway, one interesting point that progressives have a hard time wrapping their heads around is that ethnic homogeneity, such as Finland enjoys relative to most other modern countries, is conducive to disinterested reform and progress. </i><br /><br />Italy, Spain, Portugal and Greece are all ethnically homogeneous compared to the UK, France or Germany. And yet,these countries do not seem to be filled with "disinterested reform and progress." To be fair, Spain and Italy are lovely countries to visit and no doubt equally delightful to live in for those who have some money, as countless northern Euro retirees can attest. Nevertheless "reformed" and "progressive" are not words that come to mind in association with, say, Madrid or Rome. <br /><br />Perhaps it is less homogeneity than the kind of people being homogenous that matters. (I suspect Stockholm and Oslo are more reformed and progressive - whatever that means - than Lisbon and Athens, despite the large surplus of non-locals who now live in the Scandinavian cities.)Get Off My Lawn!noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-81682793519252398282011-06-16T16:45:49.162-07:002011-06-16T16:45:49.162-07:00must say hell-sinky doesn't sound like a very ...must say hell-sinky doesn't sound like a very inviting place.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-84495796985646916402011-06-16T16:31:41.651-07:002011-06-16T16:31:41.651-07:00Finland is a bit of a headache for the Eurocidal m...Finland is a bit of a headache for the Eurocidal maniacs. It's kind of Scandinavian, so it should fall as easily as next-door Sweden... except hang on, it's not actually Scandinavian at all - it is completely sui generis. Finns are nice, smart people but they don't care what the elites and their useful idiots in neighbouring countries are doing. The Finns don't make a song and dance about it, but they know just fine that they're doing well by doing things their own way and seem pretty impervious to the madness that the leftists would unleash on the place given the chance. "Thanks, but no thanks" is the clear message. <br /><br />The cosmopolitan ones just can't get an "in" to Finland the way they can in almost every other European country. No history of expansionism, colonialism, slavery or aggression to batter them over the head with (quite the opposite in fact). Very few Jews there and no mistreatment of them at any point. An economy and society that have quietly flourished without any appreciable "diversity" that can be given all the credit for it - dammit! Won't those pesky Finns give them SOMETHING they can use to destroy them? No, they won't, hence this kind of passive-aggressive article, damning with faint praise etc. They hate the place but they know they can't say why.Londonernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-77929638553098359682011-06-16T16:04:50.743-07:002011-06-16T16:04:50.743-07:00Corruption is very low, as it is in all the Scandi...Corruption is very low, as it is in all the Scandinavian countries. The women are pretty - that's hard to fault.<br /><br />They don't talk much. Not a plus to my mind, but I understand YMMV.<br /><br />There are two great unmentionables in these overrated Scandinavian countries, the first of which you noted here: Everyone is fifth cousin to everyone else, which creates enormous social capital that you can use for, oh, I dunno, socialism or something. Not socialism regarding other countries, of course. For that, ruthless free-marketing applies, or how else would we feed our own Finns? (See also, greater Scandinavia, Switzerland.)<br /><br />The other unmentionable is that they suddenly got the idea that socialism might be a nice idea just after the poorest fifth of their population had just moved to North America. What are the odds, eh? It worked out great for us, because America didn't believe that only petty oppressors were intelligent. But it was a helluva jumpstart on all that fine fellow-feeling they pride themselves on.<br /><br />How tough would socialism be here if our bottom quintile moved somewhere else over the next two decades?Assistant Village Idiothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01978011985085795099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-14742970309186879412011-06-16T15:39:15.032-07:002011-06-16T15:39:15.032-07:00I don't believe this. It is almost mid winter ...I don't believe this. It is almost mid winter here in New Zealand north island and the lowest the temperature has been is 0oC this very morning.OK we have earthquakes but how can you be happy when the temperature is so low for most of the year.thttp://laketaupocyclechallenge.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-51506813936451615432011-06-16T15:36:52.008-07:002011-06-16T15:36:52.008-07:00Anonymous said...Also, few good restaurants.
Ah, ...<i>Anonymous said...Also, few good restaurants.</i><br /><br />Ah, the price we pay to forgo street crime, riots, squalor, poor schools, social inequality, affirmative-action make-work jobs, and incessant racial hectoring.<br /><br />I'll eat tuna casserole, thank you.Harry Baldwinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-28238228417760875632011-06-16T15:34:06.936-07:002011-06-16T15:34:06.936-07:00>All white communities can be quiet and nice bu...>All white communities can be quiet and nice but dull as hell.<<br /><br />Dullness comes from within. Firing off a few shots and cranking up the crunk may quell one's interior emptiness momentarily, but not everyone feels the same as you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-73604160412412258502011-06-16T15:32:35.658-07:002011-06-16T15:32:35.658-07:00>Hmmhmmmhmm, a bunch of Finns who like the &quo...>Hmmhmmmhmm, a bunch of Finns who like the "Finnish way to do things" sounds pretty suspicious to me. Isn't there some sort of EU regulation against that?<<br /><br />That administrative region must be a pocket of anti-Semitism. The EU should arrange for the importation of millions of Somalis into it. That will show those farkakt <a href="http://www.pbs.org/fireandice/" rel="nofollow">Nazis</a>.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com