tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post3394416564025030106..comments2024-03-28T16:22:14.888-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: Your ancestors more likely to be pioneers than stay-at-homesUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger118125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-3654163970853106152011-11-08T19:26:00.182-08:002011-11-08T19:26:00.182-08:00"Only children of kings and queens have survi..."Only children of kings and queens have survived in the long run; not nobles."<br /><br />What? <br /><br />Only those with pedigrees keep track, you mean.<br /><br />Ma and Pa Ingalls, for instance, had siblings who married and had large families too. And those siblings married people who generally had procreating brothers and sisters too. Despite the bloodline of this one famous family dying out, there are close relatives whose descendants survive to this day. If they were royalty, this interrelatedness would be well documented. <br /><br />Unlike some people on this blog, I don't see the loss of node on a genealogy chart that important. Probably because I'm thinking in terms of surviving rather than evolving. I'd assume most of the genes that created the Ingalls family are still swimming in the pool.Ancestral Spiritnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-2852534715567659532011-11-08T14:42:57.232-08:002011-11-08T14:42:57.232-08:00>In fact, Mary was assisted by a State grant. L...>In fact, Mary was assisted by a State grant. Laura, like her daughter, was against government "interference" and wanted to promote the idea that true Americans were self-sufficient. That's a little dishonest<<br /><br />A little dishonest, but a common pattern in American history.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-16288624107525494792011-11-08T12:33:00.375-08:002011-11-08T12:33:00.375-08:00In the 19th century, some aristocratic types under...In the 19th century, some aristocratic types understood how the world was changing and intelligently sought to adapt to these changes by appropriating some of them. Bismarck was good at this. But WWI was brought forth by the vanity of aristocratic class seeking to maintain control by fanning nationalist flames, and it all blew up in their faces. Aristocrats were so badly discredited that even in New Right nations like Fascist Italy and Nazi Germany had little use for them except as puppets. <br /><br />Though aristocracy is a thing of the past, the problem of the American Right is the lingering sensibility of aristocratism. With William F. Buckely, we often got the sense that his ilk deserved all power and privilege simply because they were of a certain breed. Though of bourgeois than aristocratic background, Buckley acted as if he was the descendant of a long lines of princes. <br />And there is a sense even among ordinary conservatives that "America belongs to us because, well, we're wasps", and then they are befuddled that things are not going their way. They expect the world to conform to their desires as if history had been pre-programmed to grant the wish of the wasps or white majority. But what one wishes or wants is immaterial or irrelevant if one is not willing to fight for it. In other words, 'should' is determined by the fierce 'will' and 'cunning' to make it so. But conservative mentality, still steeped in aristocratism, seems to feel that things that shouldn't be happening are happening and could may be stop happening if we show more disdain, disapproval, and disregard. But history doesn't care what they think or feel. It only sides with those with the bloody will to struggle and fight. <br />Gays have more balls than conservatives. Gays, taking nothing for granted, keep fighting for more power(no matter how ridiculous their demands are).Seismic Puppyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17935462412957725540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-78485684149830799732011-11-08T12:31:32.873-08:002011-11-08T12:31:32.873-08:00I think the aristocratic legacy hurts the White Ri...I think the aristocratic legacy hurts the White Right. When there were wars, the ariocratic/noblemen/warrior caste was not only useful but indispensable. They were needed for security and expansion. <br />But once security and stablity had been established, the aristocratic class rarely fought wars. Since they couldn't justify their power and status on military necessity, they found all sorts of highfalutin excuses to rationalize their superiority and privilege. Yet, the real basis for their privilege was birthright. If you were born to aristocrats, you too were an aristocrat no matter how dumb, lazy, stupid, and imbecile you were. Sure, aristocrats were groomed to have finer manners, received higher education, dressed better, and etc. But all these things weren't earned but provided to those born into the privileged caste. So, even a dumb aristocrat could take his privileges, position, and power for granted. He'd been born 'high'. <br /><br />But Jews could never take their power and privilege for granted. No Jew was favored by gentile aristocrats simply cuz he was Jewish. If anything, it was a disadvantage to be Jewish. For a Jew to gain power and privileg, he had to PROVE time and time again that he could deliver in areas that required special skills or talent. So, while gentile aristocrats developed a culture of complacency(and maybe some noblesse oblige, a form of compassionate complacency), Jews developed a culture of feisty competitiveness and fierce ambition. <br />Aristocrats were competitive in the art of honor, and some were good with dueling with swords and guns, but those were not really useful talents in any stable society. Pen and purse were gonna be mightier than the sword or gun. <br />What was true of Jews was also kinda true of gays. For gay artists, musicians, and etc to gain power and privilege, they too had to deliver. Even if they served the vanity of rich aristocrats by designing clothes and painting pictures, it took a lot of creative talent and originality. Gays too learned the art of struggle. <br /><br />With the rise of meritocratic capitalism, the fiercely ambitious and creative were bound to win over the complacently privileged. Jews and gays were gonna be favored over huffy puffy aristocratic types.Seismic Puppyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17935462412957725540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-83380522411269522212011-11-08T07:10:33.893-08:002011-11-08T07:10:33.893-08:00So Rose Lane died a city slicker...
Yes, the city...So Rose Lane died a city slicker...<br /><br />Yes, the city slickers have the last laugh. I doubt the person who wrote the article "Pioneers..." were descended from pioneers either.<br /><br />Only children of kings and queens have survived in the long run; not nobles. If a dynasty survived for more than 3 generation, it's very unlikely for the founder of the dynasty to have no progeny. Genghis Khan's genes are in at least 10% of the population of Central Asia.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-47937123935470712542011-11-08T06:09:55.409-08:002011-11-08T06:09:55.409-08:00"Seriously? Didn't Ma and Pa Ingalls have..."Seriously? Didn't Ma and Pa Ingalls have 4 children who reached adulthood? I believe Mary lost her eyesight, but she still got married. Didn't Carrie or Grace have any children and grandchildren?"<br /><br />Mary married only on the TV show. In real life she did not. She did graduate from a college for the blind in Davenport, Iowa, with honors though. In later years she taught Sunday school. One thing about Rose: she said that Laura made it appear in the book as if the family saved all the money for Mary's college education. In fact, Mary was assisted by a State grant. Laura, like her daughter, was against government "interference" and wanted to promote the idea that true Americans were self-sufficient. That's a little dishonest, and what's the use of being in a great, rich & powerful country if you don't reap some of the overflow (they paid taxes) when you need it?<br /><br /><br />Two other of the sisters married in their 20s-30s and both lived to old age, but had no children. Laura married at 18 to Almanzo, 28, and had two children of whom only one lived to grow up. I always wondered about that. Birth control was actually widely practiced among the more informed & smart (naturally)by the 1890s and maybe this was a deliberate decision on the part of L&A, because the first 15 yrs of their marriage were extremely hard financially. Eventually they built a properous farm in the Ozarks, and each lived to be 90.<br />It is true that Laura's only child, Rose, just had one baby and that did not survive, but Rose divorced shortly afterwards c. 1909, and in those days unmarried women who aspired to any sort of respectability did not have babies. A journalist & brilliant letter writer (some other journalists/authors considered her the best they'd ever encountered), she just never found someone attuned enough to her to marry again. She did adopt a couple teenaged boys, one an Albanian mountaineer who stayed in Albania, not the Ozarks.<br />Rose, b. 1886, was also a crusader for civil rights, and other causes esp promoted by the left, yet she was conservative on many issues. She went as a reporter to Vietnam, aged in her 70s before she moved to Connecticut, home of her grandmother's Yankee ancestors, to whom she was fairly true to type.<br /><br />It is an interesting case of a fairly fecund family pretty much defunct in its direct line only two generations later. <br /><br />Makes you understand how the 11,000 or so members listed in the knighthood/peerage in England, c. 12th century, had not one direct descendant among the lot of them listed by the 20th century. At least not officially.Charlottenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-78769449845772054992011-11-07T15:30:22.958-08:002011-11-07T15:30:22.958-08:00@Maya:
Only two of the Ingalls sisters married, b...@Maya:<br /><br />Only two of the Ingalls sisters married, but one was sickly and there is no mention of children.<br /><br />The other, Laura Ingalls Wilder, had only one live child, Rose Wilder Lane, who did married and had a child who died young.<br /><br />For some reason unknown to us, instead of trying to have another child, Rose spent the rest of her life promoting libertarianism, ensuring Pa's line to die out.<br /><br />Sorry. Today's people are more likely to be descended from city slickers. That's a fact.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-47153160766369258752011-11-07T15:22:30.484-08:002011-11-07T15:22:30.484-08:00"1. Why did the white population grow exponen..."1. Why did the white population grow exponentially?"<br /><br />1)Conquering infant mortality.<br />2)Increased farm yields.<br />3)Navigational technology to colonize the far flung, and un or underused areas of planet earth.<br />Technology,Technology,Technology.<br /><br />"2. What is it about contemporary circumstances that make it financially feasible if not profitable for certain populations to procreate more than others?"<br /><br />The spread of that technology to those who don't have the respect for what it is capable of. World population(3rd world rather) has grown 4 billion in the last half century, and it will not end well. And, had it not been for us it would have ended in the last century.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-5492650583955649292011-11-07T15:07:31.986-08:002011-11-07T15:07:31.986-08:00"> The native Indians had extremely low po..."> The native Indians had extremely low population levels compared to Euro-American settlements. They were never "genocided". There were just too few of them to hold onto all the land they wanted to lay claim to.<br />"<br /><br />virgin soil epidemics.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-75764010901562573622011-11-07T15:06:52.285-08:002011-11-07T15:06:52.285-08:00"So, the moral is that we should be exploring..."So, the moral is that we should be exploring and colonizing outer space!"<br /><br />There is still an incredible amount of, while extremely marginal, land still vastly better suited to human habitation than "outerspace". That we aren't settling that land indicates that we've bascially maxed out what can be done with earth. The moral is that we should slam the borders the hell shut.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-9317075137383474692011-11-07T13:28:42.041-08:002011-11-07T13:28:42.041-08:00"Ungrateful immigrants like Hacienda"
I..."Ungrateful immigrants like Hacienda"<br /><br />I think you misunderstood me. I'm grateful for Western innovations like the 3 way breakup of governmental power. Modern nutrition, electrical power etc. I'm not grateful for what I call "whitey" genocides and scaled up total war and trashed culture. But I can clearly see that you can't have one without the other. Apparently you can't. I actually think you should be grateful for people like me that bring a new perspective into the death dance of white/black, North/South power politics.Haciendanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-46219174884600118062011-11-07T13:28:27.696-08:002011-11-07T13:28:27.696-08:00"Like someone said, there are no more Ingalls..."Like someone said, there are no more Ingallses after the last of them, Rose Ingalls Lane, died childless."<br /><br />Seriously? Didn't Ma and Pa Ingalls have 4 children who reached adulthood? I believe Mary lost her eyesight, but she still got married. Didn't Carrie or Grace have any children and grandchildren?Mayanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-55861520404900522322011-11-07T13:15:50.283-08:002011-11-07T13:15:50.283-08:00"Especially in our age of specialization, if ..."Especially in our age of specialization, if you're not extremely good at something, you aint worth much."<br /><br />Take heart, Cause. I know plenty of people with highly specialized though unmarketable skills. I've known of some generalists who were none too bright neither who still managed to find a special niche which allowed them to become wealthy, famous even.<br /><br />So it's not so much specialization as specialness that counts.Ancestral Spiritnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-80485639559688540352011-11-07T12:49:06.589-08:002011-11-07T12:49:06.589-08:00Like someone said, there are no more Ingallses aft...Like someone said, there are no more Ingallses after the last of them, Rose Ingalls Lane, died childless.<br /><br />She was also a fan of libertarianism; and guess one of the last things she did was import an Asian 'to carry her legacy'.<br /><br />In fact, few pioneers left descendants, contrary to popular wisdom. Their birth rate had been higher but their death rate were higher too.<br /><br />Check the bloodlines of the governors in the "Pioneer" states. Chances are they are somewhere from the Eastern big cities.<br /><br />Sorry, stay-at-homes have the last laugh.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-56727498907770190922011-11-07T08:49:42.727-08:002011-11-07T08:49:42.727-08:00Ungrateful immigrants like Hacienda are a good arg...Ungrateful immigrants like Hacienda are a good argument against nonwhite immigration and the fever dreams of clever-silly IQ fetishists like Ron Unz. One wonders why Hacienda wants to see the West die, when he clearly prefers nipping at the heels of whitey to life in his native East.Alwynnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-25476481782411421842011-11-07T08:16:10.445-08:002011-11-07T08:16:10.445-08:00The power of Jews and gays teaches us a crucial le...The power of Jews and gays teaches us a crucial lesson: the important of SPECIAL talents. Jews are VERY GOOD at business, law, science, etc. Gays are very good arts, fashion, decor, etc. <br />The problem among conservatives is they prefer mediocrity and, at best, a kind of middle-brow-ness. So, even though a lot of white conservatives are pretty decent at something and above-average, few are excellent or very special at something. Maybe we can learn something from Amy Chua on this account. Her guidance of her kids may have been somewhat narrow, but she made sure her kids would be very very good at something. Especially in our age of specialization, if you're not extremely good at something, you aint worth much.Seismic Puppyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17935462412957725540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-17308463702223113162011-11-07T02:47:42.754-08:002011-11-07T02:47:42.754-08:00gccochran said:
The real conclusion is that about ...gccochran said:<br /><i>The real conclusion is that about a quarter of all births in France are to populations that originated in North Africa and Sub-Saharan Africa. In the Paris area, more than half. That much is true. </i><br />Exactly what I meant.Vilkonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-66489155642114303372011-11-06T18:20:42.245-08:002011-11-06T18:20:42.245-08:00@old settler
It's almost as if some group was...@old settler<br /><br /><i>It's almost as if some group was very aware of why the white population grew exponentially then ingeniously brought about modern day circumstances that would make it financially feasible if not profitable for certain populations to procreate more than others.</i><br /><br />1. Why did the white population grow exponentially?<br /><br />2. What is it about contemporary circumstances that make it financially feasible if not profitable for certain populations to procreate more than others?JR Stuckeynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-50790902239297623602011-11-06T16:54:57.427-08:002011-11-06T16:54:57.427-08:00"The life of an Indian is a continual holiday..."The life of an Indian is a continual holiday, compared with the poor of Europe..." ~Thomas Paine, Agrarian JusticeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-86192635419600135982011-11-06T14:46:36.835-08:002011-11-06T14:46:36.835-08:00Some could argue that genetically the Mestizo Mexi...<i>Some could argue that genetically the Mestizo Mexican and Central American demographic invasion of the US is a return to the AmeriIndian gene pool.</i><br /><br />These people must also believe that Lebanese immigration to Haiti represents the reconquest of Saint-Domingue by the French. There is no going back, and the 15th century meant that the macroracial purity of the Americas was destroyed forever.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-27955714770820161632011-11-06T14:40:06.227-08:002011-11-06T14:40:06.227-08:00"... that in 1990 fully half of Americans wer..."... that in 1990 fully half of Americans were descended from settlers - they had big families in those days."<br /><br />Yes, here we get into a comparison of why families of new settlers were large then and now. There were no child labor laws preventing kids from tending to animals or harvesting crops. School attendance was hit or miss as well so you had labor that only required payment in cheap food. Fast forward to the future; those having the biggest families do seem to be benefitting economically per each additional birth. <br /><br />It's almost as if some group was very aware of why the white population grew exponentially then ingeniously brought about modern day circumstances that would make it financially feasible if not profitable for certain populations to procreate more than others.old settlernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-22065828944105833432011-11-06T14:09:26.471-08:002011-11-06T14:09:26.471-08:00"They're also part-white, so I won't ..."They're also part-white, so I won't go so far as to say the Amerindians are getting the last laugh"<br /><br />Especially considering that the Indian tribes in the southwest typically tried to scalp the mestizos who did try to settle there. Which is a large part of the reason why these areas ended up getting settled by White Americans, who apparently had less fear of death by scalping than mestizo Mexicans.Georgia Residentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-87553911920668593672011-11-06T14:07:30.660-08:002011-11-06T14:07:30.660-08:00Here comes the big one. Perfect timing. Due to the...<a href="http://news.yahoo.com/israels-peres-says-iran-attack-more-more-likely-022212256.html" rel="nofollow">Here comes the big one. Perfect timing. Due to the political mess and disunity in Egypt, the chaos in Libya following Gaddafi's fall, the desperation of the Syrian regime(allied with Iran), and worries in Iraq over the looming withdrawal of US troops, the Arab/Muslim world is divided and weak as ever(though in the long run, recent turmoil may lead to something good). With the Arab/Muslim in such disarray and without clear leadership or unity, it is the perfect time for Israel to strike Iran. Also, the NATO annihilation of Gaddafi's regime has put wind in the sail of the anti-Iran crusade. There is a new momentum. <br />Israel may also use the war to invoke emergency measures to deal very harshly with Palestine that is on the verge of declaring for nationhood. Under the cover of war, Israelis may enforce dramatic demographic policies. <br />Obama may see this as the opportunity to divert our attention from the economy--with the aid of the media of course. GOP will back Obama cuz it's the war party and rolls over/plays fetch for neocons in the vain hope that if it smooches AIPAC butt, more Jews will join the ranks of GOP. There won't be any real resistance from the GOP--and critics of the war will be called 'antisemites who wanna see Israel wiped off the map'--, and most liberals and Democrats will not oppose the war(at least not vociferously)since they remember how the anti-war movement in the 60s was a boon to Nixon and since Obama is a black guy(and of course it would be 'racist' and 'uncool' to oppose a black guy.)<br /><br />The war is coming. Report after report, it's in the news. American foray into Uganda was just a ruse to show that Americans are for 'human rights' intervention everywhere. Not just in Iran but in Uganda too. Jews are good. Really really good. They know how to play the game.</a>Seismic Puppyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17935462412957725540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-66147701912116080922011-11-06T13:37:33.411-08:002011-11-06T13:37:33.411-08:00"Your ancestors were the original illegals, p..."Your ancestors were the original illegals, please keep that in mind."<br /><br />Human species is an illegal invasive species. So, what does that mean? We should allow cougars and bears to live next to us again cuz we stole their land? <br />If liberals wanna do that, I say go right ahead. I'm for releasing 10,000 grizzly bears and 10,000 cougars in NY. Let them eat liberals.Seismic Puppyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17935462412957725540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-9250358189116597062011-11-06T13:35:19.697-08:002011-11-06T13:35:19.697-08:00"Sorry for going OT, but I found this from to..."Sorry for going OT, but I found this from today's Reuters' obit on Andy Rooney interesting"<br /><br />Rooney, like Royko, was the last of his kind. People who saw real life and had thick skin. <br />But new generations of journalists have been pampered and socially engineered from cradle. They are used to approval, consensus, and correct.Seismic Puppyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17935462412957725540noreply@blogger.com