tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post3504398688243307990..comments2024-03-29T05:14:33.223-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: Birth Tourism explained in actual EnglishUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger48125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-81161653820432329722011-04-10T20:09:13.436-07:002011-04-10T20:09:13.436-07:00If the location your child resides in in the futur...<i>If the location your child resides in in the future is disrupted by war, US citizenship and nationality will allow him to benefit from protection and evacuation by the US government.</i><br /><br />Does anyone think that the U.S. would actually be able to protect or evacuate U.S. citizens from China should China be "disrupted by war"?Anthonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12389602137217799305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-76983471455529012842011-04-10T06:19:46.076-07:002011-04-10T06:19:46.076-07:00I did say that I was not guaranteeing that Chinese...I did say that I was not guaranteeing that Chinese growth would stay the same. However it could go up rather than down and America's could go either up or down as well as staying the same. However just relying on China's growth to stop is an unwise and unjustified assumption.<br /><br />If it did only stop at US/Japanese levels that would still leave them with an economy 4 times larger than America's.<br /><br />I don't think China's pollution probelm is any worse than America's or Europe's was at various stages. In fact comparing Beijing's air withn the London smogs which, in the 1950s, killed 4,000 in one week, it looks pretty clean. Certainly nothing that would bring their growth to a stop.neil craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09157898238945726349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-81625377887465186842011-04-09T20:31:50.062-07:002011-04-09T20:31:50.062-07:00Reply to Lucille:
Japan may admit immigrants but ...Reply to Lucille:<br /><br />Japan may admit immigrants but it only admits an extremely low number of them. They are not going to change the face of their country - and why should they? As Enoch Powell noted, "Its all about the numbers"! Nobody cared about race relations in Britain in 1947. There may have been a FEW non-whites living there then, but they were not demographically significant. Its all about THE NUMBERS!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-28435388751704338452011-04-09T13:21:15.937-07:002011-04-09T13:21:15.937-07:00China has done massive environmental damage to its...<i>China has done massive environmental damage to itself in a short-term orgy of manufacturing cheap crap to sell to broke Americans, on credit.<br /><br />This is not a sustainable business plan.</i><br /><br />Environmental damage has nothing to do with the limits on Chinese growth. The country is slightly larger than the US, and the damage is only being being done in infinitesimal areas of the country. <br /><br />Their real problem is that their growth - like that of other poor countries - is based on assembling widgets. A developed country gets its growth from inventing widgets. Bangladesh and Botswana can assemble widgets as well as the Chinese can - it's their governments that prevent this from happening due to a combination of corruption and cumbersome rent-seeking regulations. Can the Chinese move on to the invention of widgets? The paucity of inventions from China, given its huge land mass (2.5x the EU), population (larger than all of the West for all of recorded history, and more literate for most of recorded history) and relatively long periods of peace (far fewer large-scale conflicts than in Europe) is not encouraging.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-68109570888272159682011-04-09T09:39:47.188-07:002011-04-09T09:39:47.188-07:00neil:
You can't extrapolate from current grow...neil:<br /><br />You can't extrapolate from current growth rates forever. China is still following in the footsteps of the developed world, and digging out of a huge hole created by adherence to Maoist insanity. Eventually, they'll level out at an economy probably something like that of Japan or Taiwan or South Korea--solidly first world, wealthy, but not able to keep growing at 10+% every year. The easy development will be done.none of the abovenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-11249915448684614402011-04-09T08:13:03.499-07:002011-04-09T08:13:03.499-07:00Meanwhile, Japan continues to admit zero immigrant...<i>Meanwhile, Japan continues to admit zero immigrants. Imagine that.</i><br /><br />I don't know if there is a country on earth that admits zero immigrants. Japan does admit immigrants, primarily other East Asians, and they have a right-of-return policy concerning ethnic Japanese around the world.Lucillehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03225011724349777456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-65086178702737830402011-04-09T07:46:40.712-07:002011-04-09T07:46:40.712-07:00"but trying to argue with the effects of comp..."but trying to argue with the effects of compound growth is like trying to argue with gravity."<br /><br />Wrong.<br /><br />You're projecting growth trends to infinity. While gravity may have infinite reach, growth, eventually, stops.<br /><br />China has done massive environmental damage to itself in a short-term orgy of manufacturing cheap crap to sell to broke Americans, on credit.<br /><br />This is not a sustainable business plan.<br /><br />Societies are like stocks. When people start projecting their growth to infinity, that means the top is in.<br /><br />Being the contrarian sort (with the fundamentals of history to back me up) I'm now bullish on people of Northwestern European ancestry.JSMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-73176151948060969242011-04-09T05:43:59.146-07:002011-04-09T05:43:59.146-07:00"Considering the over billion Chinese living,..."Considering the over billion Chinese living, it's amazing this birth tourism isn't more common than it is. Perhaps the Chinese understand that we're a has-been declining power."<br />- Not really, its that the price mentioned in the article to do birth tourism represents about 3+ years gross salary for the average Chinese worker. This is something for the uberwealthy to them, kind of like a $200,000 ride in Richard Branson's space shuttle seems a bit out of the price range for most Americans.Marlon Hnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-47298858061764350362011-04-09T05:19:30.530-07:002011-04-09T05:19:30.530-07:00"In 21 years, at 10% growth, the Chinese econ..."In 21 years, at 10% growth, the Chinese economy will be 7.4 times larger."<br /><br />Nice paper projection.alexishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14958611059030729965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-44894044383219451762011-04-09T03:04:29.816-07:002011-04-09T03:04:29.816-07:00Captain Hack I was saying that in 21 years the Chi...Captain Hack I was saying that in 21 years the Chinese economy would be 7.4 times larger than the current Chinese economy. I think that would make it a bit larger than the current US one, but would have to look that up.<br /><br />Of course after a further 21 years it would be more than 7.4 times the current US one.<br /><br />Not saying they & the US will keep up such comparative growth rates, not that they won't but trying to argue with the effects of compound growth is like trying to argue with gravity.neil craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09157898238945726349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-10136314557016605332011-04-08T21:47:08.651-07:002011-04-08T21:47:08.651-07:00Reply to corvinus:
"Canada is only 3% Chines...Reply to corvinus:<br /><br />"Canada is only 3% Chinese"..<br /><br />I don't think you understood my post.<br /><br />Firstly, that is a huge jump from almost nothing just 40 years or so earlier. Well within living memory, Canada was over 98% white. Also a great many Chinese took out Canadian citizenship, BUT CURRENTLY STILL LIVE IN HONG KONG. This was my point, which was lost on you. <br /><br />Also Canada has about one-ninth, not one-eighth of the U.S. population.<br /><br />You ARE RIGHT that Canada has a totally bone-headed immigration policy. America at least has the excuse of having Mexico and the Caribbean as neighbours.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1692888325071896992011-04-08T21:22:46.843-07:002011-04-08T21:22:46.843-07:00Canada and Australia admit huge numbers of immigra...Canada and Australia admit huge numbers of immigrants, on a proportional basis, but those immigrants often come on the basis of their skills. Especially true in Australia. <br /><br />Sarkozy has been tightening up the immigration system in France.<br /><br />UK historically was locked down pretty well, following immigration restriction in the 1960s and 1970s. Then Blair/Labor took power in 1997 and opened up the floodgates, which Tories are now trying to close. I predict by the end of the year, UK will be back to sanity, as Cameron seems serious on the immigration issue.<br /><br />Germany is currently very locked down.<br /><br />The US is probably the dumbest country in the Western world, with regards to immigration.<br /><br />Meanwhile, Japan continues to admit zero immigrants. Imagine that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-75420929243615575502011-04-08T21:18:55.453-07:002011-04-08T21:18:55.453-07:00The Chinese are not smarter than American workers....The Chinese are not smarter than American workers. Yes many of them are very bright, but the rural inland masses and slum dwellers are not smarter. I've known plenty of people that traveled through China and most were not impressed with the intellectual curiosity or general smarts of the common people they encountered, outside the entrepreneurial and professional classes. I would add that it is possible that poor environment and social rigidity have a negative impact on the general population.<br /><br />The Chinese, however, are much harder working and more frugal than Americans. That seems to be true across economic classes or regions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-85993938589570301022011-04-08T19:06:27.115-07:002011-04-08T19:06:27.115-07:00"Canada is far more boneheaded when it comes ...<b>"Canada is far more boneheaded when it comes to immigration than the USA is, if that can be believed."</b><br /><br />In idealistic terms it may be worse. Effectively, though, it's better off. A far larger proportion of its immigrants are well-educated. It's saved by the fact that a large, wealthy country stands between it and Latin America.<br /><br />Realistically, NO First World country is worse on immigration than the United States. Not one - not Canada, not France, not Great Britain, not Australia. Nearly 45% of newborns in the USA are now Hispanic, black, or other poorly performing minorities.<br /><br />The die is cast. Nothing short of full expulsion of illegals AND their anchor babies will change that, and that WILL NOT happen.Captain Jack Aubreynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-67155912878547523272011-04-08T18:47:29.702-07:002011-04-08T18:47:29.702-07:00I just puked.I just puked.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-51749818195614538422011-04-08T18:27:19.864-07:002011-04-08T18:27:19.864-07:00It's not the alien's fault. Is anyone here...It's not the alien's fault. Is anyone here complaining to their rep/senators about this?<br /><br />Keyboard cowboys get nothing done in this country. Real men have boots on the ground and they get involved in the non-virtual real life way. <br /><br />Pffffft. You're bodies are all full of birth control pill runoff from the water system anyway. <br /><br />Carry on, Estro-Poofs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-82615960647891243652011-04-08T18:25:27.072-07:002011-04-08T18:25:27.072-07:00It's not the alien's fault. Is anyone here...It's not the alien's fault. Is anyone here complaining to their rep/senators about this?<br /><br />Keyboard cowboys get nothing done in this country. Real men have boots on the ground and they get involved in the non-virtual real life way. <br /><br />Pffffft. You're bodies are all full of birth control pill runoff from the water system anyway. <br /><br />Carry on, Estro-Poofs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-56151483122789059692011-04-08T18:11:23.031-07:002011-04-08T18:11:23.031-07:00"In 21 years, at 10% growth, the Chinese econ...<b>"In 21 years, at 10% growth, the Chinese economy will be 7.4 times larger."</b><br /><br />The Chinese economy will never be 7 times larger than the US economy - at least not a USA that was ~85% white. Chinese workers may be smarter and more productive than US workers, but they aren't that much smarter and more productive. Of course that doesn't account for the growing Hispanicization of a US that, by 2032, will have a huge percentage of NAMs age 20-30 working (or not working) by then.Captain Jack Aubreynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-71657030147771215662011-04-08T17:30:12.366-07:002011-04-08T17:30:12.366-07:00Considering the over billion Chinese living, it...Considering the over billion Chinese living, it's amazing this birth tourism isn't more common than it is. Perhaps the Chinese understand that we're a has-been declining power.<br /><br /><i>It's an insurance policy. Just like the hundreds of thousands (millions?) of Hong Kong Chinese who took out Canadian citizenship - "the maple leaf express" - just in case they ever need it.</i><br /><br />Right.<br />Canada is 3% Chinese, the same as Califonia. The USA is 1%. British Columbia is about 10%.<br /><br />Canada and the United States admit roughly equal numbers of Pakistanis and Sri Lankans each year. Note that Canada has only 1/8 the population of the USA.<br /><br />Canada is far more boneheaded when it comes to immigration than the USA is, if that can be believed. Perhaps it's a good thing that Lincoln kept the Southern states in the Union...corvinusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-53352068963458988802011-04-08T16:39:46.186-07:002011-04-08T16:39:46.186-07:00Then again, they fail to mention that the US citiz...Then again, they fail to mention that the US citizenship benefits your child will enjoy will greatly diminish by the time the child grows up, due to the effects from the border hopping behavior of him and his parents. And that China doesn't allow dual-citizenship to hedge the bet...Charles Hnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-9500405386278885742011-04-08T13:41:03.287-07:002011-04-08T13:41:03.287-07:00My aunt has lived in Arcadia for a half century. I...My aunt has lived in Arcadia for a half century. It was a very generic looking SoCal suburb, but now about the half the ranch houses, like the one my aunt lives in, and have been torn down and replaced by McMansions for Chinese.Steve Sailerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11920109042402850214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-20878796050595797052011-04-08T12:29:02.722-07:002011-04-08T12:29:02.722-07:00Funny, but they don't seem to mention all the ...Funny, but they don't seem to mention all the fluffy rhetoric about how America is a creedal nation full of God's Own Chosen who embrace each other as brothers and sisters regardless of race and who want to risk their lives making the world safe for democracy and neoconservative global domination.<br /><br />It all seems very pragmatic and, well, greedy. I'm sure Bill Kristol and Jay Nordlinger would be shocked.Captain Jack Aubreynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-60285294860741375352011-04-08T11:13:24.277-07:002011-04-08T11:13:24.277-07:00When the "Tiger Mom" article was all the...When the "Tiger Mom" article was all the noise, I dropped in on the WSJ comments. There was lots of Chinese and Indians commenting. Since the comments were coming in at several every few minutes, I decided to experiment, though in a sincere way. I suggested that part of the problem was that Tigermomma made no mention of citizenship,religion, or volunteerism-that is, the world outside of Me. I threw in the platitudes about the importance of instilling civic values in a democracy. <br />Of course, there was within minutes plenty of comments from these people about how ridiculous and naive I was: we need more government, they came here for economic opportunity, they gave at the office, etc. Experiment went as predicted.alexishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14958611059030729965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-64887052024616761222011-04-08T11:09:12.287-07:002011-04-08T11:09:12.287-07:00Whitey Whiteman III
Heh.
This is from the google...<i>Whitey Whiteman III</i><br /><br />Heh. <br />This is from the google translation of chinesebabycare.com:<br /><br />"Senior center month of the white residential area in Los Angeles, Arcadia (Arcadia), Arcadia Los Angeles school district is one of the best school district. Peacock 5 minutes by car, walk 5 minutes to the supermarket, walk 3 minutes to the best school district Arcadia, Seven or eight from the Los Angeles hospitals and clinics are very close, only 15 minutes drive away. Arcadia White District elegant, beautiful, security management, allowing you to really enjoy the rich white American life."Fernandinandehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11253225431705407699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-67269467031382456412011-04-08T10:07:29.471-07:002011-04-08T10:07:29.471-07:00I have tried to use Google translate for my Don Gi...I have tried to use Google translate for my Don Giovanni project. But the results have been very mixed. <br /><br />For example the famous aria about the fickleness of women - <i>La Donna è Mobile</i> comes out - the woman mobile. Suggesting that the Duke is interested in transportion by sex.<br /><br />AlbertosaurusAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com