tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post3637046942341169493..comments2024-03-19T02:31:02.140-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: Why the DC elite thinks immigration is swellUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger62125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-32871131997360294412008-05-05T11:57:00.000-07:002008-05-05T11:57:00.000-07:00American Goy I agree with what u said lemme just e...American Goy I agree with what u said lemme just elaborate a little bit - while the indians and chinese might come here on H1 visa and displace some, they'll never displace the euro majority as a people and are therefore inherently more loyal unlike mexicans. IMHO having a surplus of smart people even some foreigners is never a bad thing. <BR/><BR/>Congrats Paladin, u have hit on something that few people even think about, the difference between the quality of immigrants of mexico and others are basically when the plane ticket costs u 7 years worth of your income that leaves out a very small portion of 3rd world country's population who can afford that(like my own mom and pop from india) while in mexico's case most of the people just walk in and the people who come here are obviously the rejects of mexico, the people who couldn't make it in mexico relatively speaking, therefore the worst group from mexico is crossing the border, not the smart euro elite who controls the country - why should they?. <BR/><BR/>One thing about white nationalism- if it weren't so exclusive and edgy, If they tone it down and work within the political system without the overt militancy IMHO they would have a lot of support esp. for important issues like mexican invasion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-33289715145061540312008-05-04T23:49:00.000-07:002008-05-04T23:49:00.000-07:00I don't think anyone will argue that high IQ immig...<I>I don't think anyone will argue that high IQ immigrants that allow the US to take the best human capital around the world (regardless of race) is reall a bad thing for the country.</I><BR/><BR/>High-IQ whites will make that argument.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-39004047288318867252008-05-04T23:41:00.000-07:002008-05-04T23:41:00.000-07:00I think it would be a very interesting exercise fo...<I>I think it would be a very interesting exercise for Steve or someone of a similar statistical bent to figure out how much more things would cost if there were no source of cheap labor.</I><BR/><BR/>There's no calculation to be done. Wages and prices would rise by the same amount.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-19805318493920584962008-05-04T23:34:00.000-07:002008-05-04T23:34:00.000-07:00The anecdotal evidence from the last 10 postings o...<I>The anecdotal evidence from the last 10 postings or so suggests that immigrants, even ones from Sub-Saharan Africa, have good work ethic and entrepreneurial spirit. Assuming these observations are representative of immigrants in general, does this not suggest that immigration is indeed good for the U.S.?</I><BR/><BR/>No.<BR/><BR/>This is our country, and the qualities of others who covet it are as irrelevant as are the qualities of a man who covets your wife.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-65682326554492016242008-05-04T22:27:00.000-07:002008-05-04T22:27:00.000-07:00"poor richard said...But people have a collective ..."poor richard said...<BR/><BR/>But people have a collective life, not just an individual life......"<BR/><BR/>Well said. The collective life of whites has been reduced to mass entertainments. NASCAR, Seinfeld, the latest comic-book movie, The Tonight Show, Sporting Events.<BR/><BR/>And even all that is becoming highly segmented down to the smallest market niche. Whites, as a people, really don't exist in this country anymore.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-11542354716502769452008-05-04T14:52:00.000-07:002008-05-04T14:52:00.000-07:00it's an Anglo-Saxon thing, a desire to own a bit o...<I>it's an Anglo-Saxon thing, a desire to own a bit of the countryside and live in green, quiet surroundings.</I><BR/><BR/>It's only a coincidence that those greener surroundings are also a lot whiter - i.e. "Anglo-Saxon."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-81623203844022639902008-05-04T09:53:00.000-07:002008-05-04T09:53:00.000-07:00RobertHume: This unacknowledged difference in the ...<B>RobertHume:</B> <I>This unacknowledged difference in the average IQ is the cause of Rev. Wright's angry sermons ... he deduces suppression and racism, whereas the cause is a difference in average IQ.</I><BR/><BR/>And do you know how close Barack & Michelle are to carrying this anger straight into The Big House [with all the policy implications their victory would portend]?<BR/><BR/>From this morning's London Telegraph:<BR/><BR/><B>Michelle Obama: Barack has hit boiling point</B><BR/>By Tim Shipman in Raleigh, North Carolina<BR/>Last Updated: 1:11PM BST 04/05/2008<BR/><A HREF="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/1924872/Michelle-Obama-Barack-has-hit-boiling-point.html" REL="nofollow">telegraph.co.uk</A><BR/><BR/>If I were a betting man, I'd say that McCain beats Obama this fall [although McCain is perfectly capable of blowing it on his own], but I doubt that McCain's margin of victory will be much more than 51-48 [52-47 would be a massive landslide], and it might look a whole lot more like 50.5 to 49.5.<BR/><BR/>And that's the best we can hope for in 2008, when the DEMs run a racist, hate-filled, crypto-Stalinist kook like Barack Hussein Obama.<BR/><BR/>Circa 2020, as Caucasian numbers plummet [or, at best, <A HREF="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/09/17/INGEJL45D11.DTL" REL="nofollow">tread water on the GOP side of the aisle</A>], and as third-world numbers explode, it will be mathematically impossible for the GOP to win elections anymore.<BR/><BR/>Again: Prepare accordingly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-77561775574758236092008-05-04T06:08:00.000-07:002008-05-04T06:08:00.000-07:00But people have a collective life, not just an ind...But people have a collective life, not just an individual life. Whites in general tend to be blind to their own collective life, for whatever reasons. Maybe it is all the advertising that convinces whites that buying that new mass produced phone or car or piece of clothing makes them an "individual." <BR/><BR/>So Jose the Mexican guy does have his life as Jose, who goes to work and has his buddies (who might or might not be Latino), maybe has a girlfriend, has his favorite bands and TV shows (which might or might not be Latin or Spanish). But periodically, that collective life is "activated" for some reason, usually a collective threat. Then he is 100% Mexican, and all the white or black or Samoan friends and TV shows don't matter. That's just the way it is.<BR/><BR/>Same goes for whites. It is just that whites have been very strong for a long time in North America. So strong that the "collective danger" buttons barely get touched, and whites have little or no awareness of their collective lives. This is true of most of "mainstream America," but less true in places like the South or ethnicky cities where whites do have collective awareness of who/what they are.<BR/><BR/>Look at who votes for Obama: it is the whites who probably just know a few "Joe sixpack" blacks friends from work or media, but have no real experience of white or black collective consciousness. Whites out in Montana and places like that. <BR/><BR/>But part of that very unbalanced white collective consciousness is that whites have been an overwhelming majority. Whites have steamrolled every other race for centuries, and have been so successful that they don't even think of themselves as "ethnic." They think they are just "normal." <BR/><BR/>That very real longstanding white supremacy has made whites not only blind to their collective interests, but corrupted by too much cultural hegemony. It goes both ways. Whites do not have a realistic assessment of who they are, their strengths and weaknesses, because everyone else has been too weak to assert anything to the contrary. The worst of these are the latte liberals who want to white-wash the world. <BR/><BR/>Excess of strength breeds stupidity, and that is what has happened up until now. <BR/><BR/>Those days of overwhelming white hegemony are coming to a very swift end due to demographic change. The consequence will be twofold. Whites will become more racially conscious in terms of noticing differences and knowing who they are. Whites will also have to become more honest and realistic in their dealings with Blacks and Mexicans in this country. <BR/><BR/>Whites will remember that they are a natural race with finite capabilities and aptitudes. Good, because dealing with external limitations is the only way people can know and appreciate who and what they are.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-56544236669890567322008-05-03T09:25:00.000-07:002008-05-03T09:25:00.000-07:00Durbin,On an individual level I probably like Hisp...Durbin,<BR/><BR/>On an individual level I probably like Hispanics as much as you. But it is the *average* IQ that counts. As the average IQ of our nation declines so will the average standard of living. The average White may be above average, but the discrepancy between the average Hispanic and the average White will be attributed to racism and that will aggravate conflict in our society. This unacknowledged difference in the average IQ is the cause of Rev. Wright's angry sermons ... he deduces suppression and racism, whereas the cause is a difference in average IQ.RobertHumehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03913525250329418444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-45576766608130763722008-05-03T09:04:00.000-07:002008-05-03T09:04:00.000-07:00b durbin, you have no clue. You think Chileans ar...b durbin, you have no clue. You think Chileans are remotely the same thing as Mexicans and Central Americans who make up the great majority of recent Latino immigrants, just because they both speak Spanish? Wrong. Chileans are racially and culturally different from them.<BR/><BR/>If you want assimilation, explain how the 34% of Californian children who are white are supposed to assimilate the 46% who are Hispanic:<BR/><BR/>http://www.statehealthfacts.org/profileind.jsp?ind=7&cat=1&rgn=6<BR/><BR/>Steve Wood, it's true that your apartment's landscaping would be more expensive without Hispanic immigrants, but so what? Nobody needs landscaping. Plant something simple like some hardy grasses that can be automated by an automated sprinkling system and mowed twice a month (there are robotic lawnmowers that work pretty well nowadays), and it won't really matter. Or just install a hardscape. This may not be to your aesthetic preference, but I doubt that living in a barrio or a favela would be either. Cheap landscaping isn't worth selling out our country.<BR/><BR/>What's more, Hispanics, like everyone else, stimulate the demand side of the economy too. They make crowded cities more crowded, and they have more mouths and gas tanks to feed. And your landscapers are almost certainly using Medicaid, WIC and other taxpayer funded programs. Whether you're coming out ahead in the end is questionable.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-44376213086356157252008-05-03T07:45:00.000-07:002008-05-03T07:45:00.000-07:00"The Hispanic total fertility rate was 2.96 babies..."The Hispanic total fertility rate was 2.96 babies per woman per lifetime in 2006 -- that's 59 percent more than the rate for white women."<BR/><BR/>The length of generations is also shorter, so the difference compounds much faster.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-87705044022587199722008-05-03T06:16:00.000-07:002008-05-03T06:16:00.000-07:00So, your criticism is unfair, Steve has probably s...<I><BR/>So, your criticism is unfair, Steve has probably set more people on that path than any white nationalist, whether thats what he intended.<BR/></I><BR/><BR/>Again, this is the problematic linking of all immigration with general problems of diversity.<BR/><BR/>I don't think anyone will argue that high IQ immigrants that allow the US to take the best human capital around the world (regardless of race) is reall a bad thing for the country.<BR/><BR/>The problem is that white nationalists look down on ALL non-white races, even Jews. Even though the Jews are probably the US's best asset in economic conflicts with China over the coming decades.Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06585635503423590842noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-57560975623524664842008-05-03T06:13:00.000-07:002008-05-03T06:13:00.000-07:00Eritreans and Ethiopians look almost like white pe...Eritreans and Ethiopians look almost like white people with black skin. Their attitudes are what I would consider white. Tend to be cheerful, confident, competent, polite, and alert. That's what has been bred into their culture. They do not have a history of hoodoo-voodoo or cannibalism. <BR/><BR/>Compared to other Hispanics, Mexicans are good workers. They are kind of shy and quiet and reserved, but they generally are pretty nice in my experience. They seem to tend towards a communal labor mentality. <BR/><BR/>The Hispanics who are loud asses invariably have that Arab look. They are the only Hispanics I have seen really harping against the Gringo. Probably goes to the deeper instinctive Arab-European cultural conflicts. <BR/><BR/>The white Cubans also have a reputation as stuck up exploiters, but then again that is why they were kicked out of Cuba. But they are are also entrepreneurial and smart.<BR/><BR/>Ricans tend to be pretty chill, but also crime ridden in more of a lazy way than a nasty or aggressive way. They have a reputation for all being on welfare.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-74783064839845780102008-05-02T19:10:00.000-07:002008-05-02T19:10:00.000-07:00You know what? I don't care if a quarter of the ki...You know what? I don't care if a quarter of the kids in this country are Hispanic...<BR/><BR/>...as long as they're American.<BR/><BR/>I say this because one of the most American guys I know is a Spanish-speaking, American-born person of Chilean heritage. And English is his first language. So I don't see a problem as long as the immigrants try to join the culture. Sure, add to it whatever you want as long as you don't try to turn it into a copy of the place you left.B. Durbinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07559705448147986730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-51926401241054992232008-05-02T14:45:00.000-07:002008-05-02T14:45:00.000-07:00The entire business where the wealthy classes fled...<I>The entire business where the wealthy classes fled the city, leaving it to the barbarians, never made sense ... Yet this was the result of our crazy modern cocktail, of liberal policing combined with welfare in cities ...<BR/><BR/>In Europe, thing shook out the sensible way ...</I><BR/><BR/>No doubt crime played a role, but the American middle and upper middle classes have always shown a tendency to move outward from the city center. I think it's an Anglo-Saxon thing, a desire to own a bit of the countryside and live in green, quiet surroundings. The situation in the UK is not so different from that in the US, with many cities containing blighted central areas surrounded by peaceful, prosperous suburbs. Now that our society's break with its Anglo-Saxon roots is almost complete, we're seeing a less British and more continental attitude toward urban life emerge. (I'm not cheering for this change, any means - quite the reverse, in fact - but rather stating a fact.) <BR/><BR/><I>And who do you think did those jobs back in the day-the 40s, 50s, and 60s? Things worked just as well back then when blacks were doing the “blue collar work” in DC as they do now, with the exception that there is a massive pool of workers from Latin America keeping those wages very low.</I><BR/><BR/>And where did those blacks come from? Not from DC, originally, nor from Philadelphia nor Chicago nor any other big city outside the deep south. They came to DC and other cities of the North and border states as part of a vast migration from the south - just not as FAR south as the current labor pool. <BR/><BR/>If there had been no such black migration, labor costs in the era you describe would have been higher, just as labor costs today would be higher without Hispanic migration. <BR/><BR/>Now, you may say that's a good thing, and maybe it is. However, it's funny that I never hear the anti-immigration crowd come right out and admit that all of us - ALL of us, not just the rich - would see a significant rise in the cost of living if the flow of immigrants were turned off. I think it would be a very interesting exercise for Steve or someone of a similar statistical bent to figure out how much more things would cost if there were no source of cheap labor. <BR/><BR/>Here's a quick example: The apartment complex where I live uses (of course) 100% Hispanic labor to maintain the extensive grounds and interior public areas. If there were no Hispanic immigrants in suburban Philadelphia, the owners would have to hire locals. How much more would it cost to maintain the buildings? How much of that cost would be passed on to me in the form of higher rent?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-13432203379011695522008-05-02T14:02:00.000-07:002008-05-02T14:02:00.000-07:00Kent Brockmann: Y yo por mi parte les doy la bienv...<B>Kent Brockmann:</B> <I>Y yo por mi parte les doy la bienvenida a nuestros nuevos jefes latinos...</I><BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://babelfish.altavista.com/tr" REL="nofollow">Babelfish suggests</A> that this might translate as <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Space_Homer" REL="nofollow">I, for one, welcome our new Spanish-speaking overlords</A>.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-35141118618144089982008-05-02T13:55:00.000-07:002008-05-02T13:55:00.000-07:00Anonymous: The only response to the immigration me...<B>Anonymous:</B> <I>The only response to the immigration mess is a personal one - have more kids of your own.</I><BR/><BR/>Yes, it is true that the only solution to the impending demographic collapse of the civilized world is for smart people to start making babies again.<BR/><BR/>Of course, the problem is that there is a 25 to 30 year gap between the start of a pro-natalist movement and that point [in the far-distant future] when such a movement begins to yield fruit.<BR/><BR/>I.e. it takes Caucasian [or Asian] children about 25 to 30 years to make it through undergraduate school, and graduate/professional school, and into the early years of apprenticeship in some career path, before they get to the point where they are truly productive members of society.<BR/><BR/>And if you look at it from the point of view of 2008, that means that any hypothetical pro-natalist policies which could have benefited us in the here and now would have to have had their inception no later than the Carter and [early] Reagan administrations - circa late 1970s to early 1980s [if not the Ford & Nixon eras prior to that].<BR/><BR/>But, of course, no one was paying any attention to demographics back then, in the early post-Griswold and post-Roe era, when Caucasian fertility first plunged below replacement level.<BR/><BR/>Likewise, any pro-natalist movement we ourselves undertake - and let us pray that such a movement can be founded and gain momentum and flourish - but any such movement we should undertake will not have any noticeable effect on the greater society at large until about 2035.<BR/><BR/>[And, by my calculations, the USA will either have collapsed and disintegrated into chaos - or will have devolved into a Stalinist totalitarian state - long before 2035. Ergo my repeated admonishments: Prepare accordingly.]Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-80774102807363868402008-05-02T13:07:00.000-07:002008-05-02T13:07:00.000-07:00A couple of posters have brought up a phenomenon w...A couple of posters have brought up a phenomenon which I might be able to explain. <BR/><BR/>Why are Mexicans in America, in general, talentless and below-average but other Latinos are not?<BR/><BR/>Why are African-Americans below average but African immigrants not?<BR/><BR/>Two reasons:<BR/>Self-selection bias- Mexicans just need to walk a little bit to get to America. Other's need to put in a bit more effort. African-Americans are born here but Africans have to expend a lot of effort to get here. This means that only the more motivated, intelligent and resourceful people make it to America from, say, Eritrea. <BR/><BR/>Generational effect= Immigrants are generally hard-working for another reason- they appreciate the level of material prosperity that America allows. Those born into it, however, do not. African-Americans are all born into it. In addition, many don't work for what they have because so many survive on government largesse. <BR/>Finally, affirmative action and identity politics kills work ethic and general courtesy. If you believe that your behavior dictates your success, you will strive to be nice and to fulfill your duties. However, if you believe that others dictate your success or failure (whether through conspiracy theories, racism, etc) then why put in the effort?Antioco Dascalonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10617669156986603638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-81881719483477268362008-05-02T12:12:00.000-07:002008-05-02T12:12:00.000-07:00The anecdotal evidence from the last 10 postings o...The anecdotal evidence from the last 10 postings or so suggests that immigrants, even ones from Sub-Saharan Africa, have good work ethic and entrepreneurial spirit. Assuming these observations are representative of immigrants in general, does this not suggest that immigration is indeed good for the U.S.? <BR/><BR/>Many of the technology start-ups in silicon valley have Chinese and Indian co-founders, and most of my semiconductor customers are non-white (mostly Asian, some Latino). Also, San Jose has a lower than average crime rate, as compared to other cities of comparable population in the U.S., despite be chalk full of immigrants (both Asian and Latino).kurt9https://www.blogger.com/profile/02101147267959016924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-70540438746481999942008-05-02T10:23:00.000-07:002008-05-02T10:23:00.000-07:00There is no relying on political answers to the im...<I>There is no relying on political answers to the immigration problem anymore. All the politicians are stupid, lazy, and/or corrupt.<BR/><BR/>The only response to the immigration mess is a personal one - have more kids of your own. It's not as depressing as fighting your politicians because most people can actually succeed at having more kids.<BR/><BR/>Posted by Anon at 5/01/2008</I><BR/><BR/>Well maybe it would help. Or maybe it would just provide more teats to the governmental taxation and welfare system for Non-Performing-Minorities to suck off on. <BR/><BR/>Doom your children to a life of increasing taxes, servitude and fear? Just because it gives you the illusion you are in control? Or just not have them?<BR/><BR/>Tough Choice.MensaRefugeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00140097855923319224noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-49232136720421848712008-05-02T09:47:00.000-07:002008-05-02T09:47:00.000-07:00"Anonymous said...Oh, this is grand. Steve Sailer,..."Anonymous said...Oh, this is grand. Steve Sailer, who has deleted untold numbers of white nationalist postings on his website over the years"<BR/><BR/>I have to take issue with this statement, Steve enabled comments only about 18 months ago from this post onwards:<BR/><BR/>http://isteve.blogspot.com/2006/12/malcolm-gladwell-strikes-back.html<BR/><BR/>So its hardly years yet.<BR/><BR/>You do have a point though, when one is a nice cuddly white liberal hanging out with lots of other nice cuddly white liberals its easy to keep telling each other that the multicultural project is workable and normal.<BR/><BR/>Once you've been exposed to some reality, once you've put the sunglasses on, and become aware of group differences, human diversity etc its very hard not to find oneself moving towards a white nationialist viewpoint.<BR/><BR/>So, your criticism is unfair, Steve has probably set more people on that path than any white nationalist, whether thats what he intended.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-46182275385914141992008-05-02T09:43:00.000-07:002008-05-02T09:43:00.000-07:00Gentrification rocks, by the way. You walk by all ...<I>Gentrification rocks, by the way. You walk by all the dilapidated houses and you know that in a few years they'll be all fixed up with happy families moving in. Great feeling.</I><BR/><BR/>marc, i live in one of those rapidly gentrifying hoods in DC and though it has come with much welcome relief it has also meant much higher rents... well, pretty much more expensive everything... and a condo market with seeming immunity from the housing crash in the outer burbs.<BR/><BR/>btw, do you live near adams morgan or down by T st? that's where most of the ethiopian owned corner stores are located. T st from 15th east is really coming up. you can tell by the newly manicured lawns and attention to landscaping.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-79113327713979614812008-05-02T07:12:00.000-07:002008-05-02T07:12:00.000-07:00I wonder if these store owners were Ethiopian or E...<I>I wonder if these store owners were Ethiopian or Eritrean. In my experience, many of these small shops in DC (similar to Korean grocery stores or bodegas) are owned by these people. I had a supervisor who was from Ethiopia. I believe he was Amhara (the highland Semitic-speaking group in that country). He was an Orthodox Christian. According to him, his people had been Christian since the 4th Century and had their own system or writing. He had, in a subtle way, a feeling of superiority relative to African Americans. He was also extremely polite. He looked like a brown-skinned Arab or Asian Indian.</I><BR/><BR/>There are a lot of Ethiopian/Eritrean stores and cultural centers in my area, and one of the two I posted about was owned by Ethiopians. There were posters about Ethiopia all over the store. The other one - the one where the African-American customer threw a fit over his lottery ticket (I didn't include that part because it seemed *too* stereotypical, but hand to God it's the truth) was run by a West African, though. No posters, but I could tell by his facial features. Very polite man. I worry a bit for his children, assuming he has any. <BR/><BR/>I've noticed that a lot of Third World immigrants harbor feelings of superiority toward African-Americans too. We had a Kenyan lawyer at my last place of work (an AIDS clinic in Baltimore) whom we had to fire because she couldn't hide her contempt for her African-American clients. I also have a friend who is Sri Lankan who once said, and I quote, "There is no reason for anyone in America to be poor!" when talking about African-American underachievement. And don't even get me started on my Mexican-American housemate. I think people from the Third World who come over here are amazed at the opportunities that alot of African-Americans don't even seem to see.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-79040919798811698732008-05-02T05:49:00.000-07:002008-05-02T05:49:00.000-07:00arc said... “I am amazed at how pertinent your blo...arc said... <BR/><BR/>“I am amazed at how pertinent your blog can be sometimes. I live in one of those gentrifying districts in D.C. and just yesterday I stopped at two different corner stores run by African immigrants (I was looking for a certain brand of cat food which neither had) and I was shocked at how polite the stores' owners/employees were. This was underscored when an African-American man came into one of the stores and threw a huge fit because the storekeeper had difficulty understanding his request.”<BR/><BR/>I wonder if these store owners were Ethiopian or Eritrean. In my experience, many of these small shops in DC (similar to Korean grocery stores or bodegas) are owned by these people. I had a supervisor who was from Ethiopia. I believe he was Amhara (the highland Semitic-speaking group in that country). He was an Orthodox Christian. According to him, his people had been Christian since the 4th Century and had their own system or writing. He had, in a subtle way, a feeling of superiority relative to African Americans. He was also extremely polite. He looked like a brown-skinned Arab or Asian Indian.bigboyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05153450268114060220noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-28347746153100632512008-05-02T05:38:00.000-07:002008-05-02T05:38:00.000-07:00guest007 wrote: “If DC did not have immigrants, th...guest007 wrote: <BR/><BR/><BR/>“If DC did not have immigrants, they would have to depend upon blacks to be janitors, cooks, construction workers, and valets. The white liberal elites realize that an economy that depends upon blacks for blue collar labor does not work.”<BR/><BR/>And who do you think did those jobs back in the day-the 40s, 50s, and 60s? Things worked just as well back then when blacks were doing the “blue collar work” in DC as they do now, with the exception that there is a massive pool of workers from Latin America keeping those wages very low. <BR/><BR/>Additionally, attitudes amongst the lower-income blacks to such work have changed. They are less willing to do such work or are more willing to do such work begrudgingly today. Incidentally, many "blue collar" workers in DC are in fact Africans from West Africa or the Horn of Africa. They appear to provide the bulk of the cab drivers and parking lot attendants in the area.bigboyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05153450268114060220noreply@blogger.com