tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post3740466341490748878..comments2024-03-28T16:22:14.888-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: Down the memory holeUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger40125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-54971806222455469482014-03-23T23:56:11.456-07:002014-03-23T23:56:11.456-07:00Tatars in general do not look like Mongols but the...Tatars in general do not look like Mongols but they do look different from Slavs. Think Charles Bronson who was of Tatar origin or Marat Safin or Rudolf Nuriev. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-79358459555047165512014-03-23T14:59:12.785-07:002014-03-23T14:59:12.785-07:00Steve: clear out your cookies. I got 3500 on that ...Steve: clear out your cookies. I got 3500 on that search, and 5830 on a news search. My cookies also get balleeted every time I navigate away from google.<br /><br />+1 on Crimea being Scythian and Greek rather than Tatar. Though the local Tatars are probably just as Slavic as everyone else in the region. They don't look much different.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-46695755134850108662014-03-23T10:31:30.154-07:002014-03-23T10:31:30.154-07:00Both Abkhazia and South Ossetia LONG had the reput...Both Abkhazia and South Ossetia LONG had the reputation as idyllic retirement lands for KGB and Spetsnaz officers.<br /><br />Sochi is just up the coast from Abkhazia -- and had been the summer time retreat for the Soviet dictators from Brezhnev onwards. Indeed, there is one famous photograph taken circa 1980 that managed to capture the Soviet leadership from Brezhnev to Gorbachev in rank order -- left to right!<br /><br />Since the Big Man summered there, so too did everyone else who mattered.<br /><br />The KGB and Spetsnaz crowd ended up stationing a serious amount of manpower in the area to meet that chronic need.<br /><br />(The Big Man or his underlings would jet down to Sochi all the time to warm up. Naturally, these holidays were never publicised, bad PR.)<br /><br />As for South Ossetia, it LONG ago gained a reputation for great wines... sort of the Napa of the Soviet Union. As you might imagine, the Big Men decided that their personal wine groves needed special protection, too. And, what better retirement than to kick-back and watch the grapes grow in a climate like the south of France?<br /><br />%%%<br /><br />Then there's the curious timing. Putin had just completed a rail head -- terminating just north of the magic tunnel -- and just weeks before the 'sudden' out break of hostilities.<br /><br />The reason that the Russian general was so far forward with his armor was that no serious resistance was expected. A full scale tank corps had previously been brought in by rail in the days before the problem began. <br /><br />Their deployment was the sole and only reason that they were so close to hand, so timely. The nearest tank base was days away by rail. No tanks were flown in, of course.<br /><br />The Soviets and Nazis had a predilection for fake oppression that required cross-border interventions. Such a subterfuge launched WWII at Poland, 1939. Similarly, the Red Army invaded Finland and Romania to protect cross border Russians. (Finland had been kicked loose from the Tsar in 1917 and so ratified by the Reds in November 1917. Prior to that it was Russian turf, entire.) The Turks had been oppressing the Slavs for centuries. So it was SOP for all the Tsars to enter into campaigns on that pretext. Using it again to go after Moldava/ Bessarabia was a no-brainer for Stalin.<br /><br />In sum, you can't trust any of these players. Everything is played out in a hall of mirrors.<br /><br />NATO satellite photos of Russian pre-deployed tanks are not put out for public consumption. <br /><br />But those with any memories do recall that Russian movements before the conflict even erupted had already become news. Now they've been 'Winstoned.' Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-4237861541744581362014-03-23T09:26:02.677-07:002014-03-23T09:26:02.677-07:00Now Steve, you can't fault the media and searc...Now Steve, you can't fault the media and search engines. Without the memory hole, how could the elites ever tell us, "we've always been at war with Eastasia"?Boulghassoulnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-45708075235130507532014-03-23T07:28:24.102-07:002014-03-23T07:28:24.102-07:00It's not allowed to see that particular little...It's not allowed to see that particular little guy as a proxy. Dannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-87857048048701788352014-03-23T06:32:05.863-07:002014-03-23T06:32:05.863-07:00The big guy standing behind the small guy enables ...The big guy standing behind the small guy enables the pint size bully to persecute Ralph from Christmas Story.You'll shoot your eye out kidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-38004203886260068972014-03-23T05:48:57.145-07:002014-03-23T05:48:57.145-07:00The Tatar Khaganate never forgets.
Never learns ...The Tatar Khaganate never forgets. <br /><br />Never learns either. Ivan the Terriblenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-34780670957609036342014-03-23T04:05:22.035-07:002014-03-23T04:05:22.035-07:00"It's always harder to think of the littl..."It's always harder to think of the little guy as the aggressor."<br /><br />That's true. Israel has been proving it for sixty years.Silvernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-59045627617050368912014-03-23T02:01:28.486-07:002014-03-23T02:01:28.486-07:00If indigenousness mattered then Putin would be giv...<i>If indigenousness mattered then Putin would be giving the Crimea back to the Tartars. <br /></i><br /><br />You mean the Indo Europeans.<br /><br />And I must second the lol at "Hispanic" old CaliforniaDifference Makernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-465313035264171062014-03-22T21:37:24.381-07:002014-03-22T21:37:24.381-07:00indigenous Hispanic residents.
Ha ha. So the Ton...<i>indigenous Hispanic residents</i>.<br /><br />Ha ha. So the Tongva, Chumash, Yokuts, etc. were "Hispanic" while their Spanish conquerors were not, but rather were "white." That's a good one.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-85272010915984599462014-03-22T19:56:59.311-07:002014-03-22T19:56:59.311-07:00Right now apply this logic to California. Oh right...<i>Right now apply this logic to California. Oh right you can't because you aren't indigenous, but you think your wishes should be adhered to over those of the far more indigenous Hispanic residents there. If indigenousness mattered then Putin would be giving the Crimea back to the Tartars. </i><br /><br />What don't you apply this logic to Israel?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-57476224891157302702014-03-22T19:35:12.537-07:002014-03-22T19:35:12.537-07:00"If indigenousness mattered then Putin would ..."If indigenousness mattered then Putin would be giving the Crimea back to the Tartars."<br /><br />The Crimea was 80% slaves for most of its history. The raiders varied over time but the slaves were all Slavs.<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_Khanate#Slave_trade<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-50586590181657123602014-03-22T18:27:43.959-07:002014-03-22T18:27:43.959-07:00Considering Estonia is a member of both the EU and...Considering Estonia is a member of both the EU and NATO, I think it's pretty damn unlikely Russia will be invading anytime soon.Bertnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-5056067182143374732014-03-22T18:26:38.106-07:002014-03-22T18:26:38.106-07:00AmericanGoy said: Here's a BBC documentary on...AmericanGoy said: Here's a BBC documentary on the Ossetian war.<br /><br />Hunsdon said: Muchas gracias, as we Texicans say. (I wasn't saying I couldn't find any information, i was simply reporting the Google results of a straight up search.)Hunsdonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-68646822285728439122014-03-22T16:14:19.126-07:002014-03-22T16:14:19.126-07:00"RWF in quoting Ben Judah wrote,""A..."RWF in quoting Ben Judah wrote,""Able to import near-slave labour at minimal costs, employers had no need to modernize or protect workers' rights. This was not appreciated at the time, but due to the weakness of the rule of law, migrants may have been contributing to growth but they were stalling Russia's modernization — and further devaluing what it meant to be a 'Russian citizen'. """<br /><br /><br />There is so much projection going on here. Pot, meet Mr. Kettle...AmericanGoyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00865892490752172185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-65373957631602873062014-03-22T16:12:42.385-07:002014-03-22T16:12:42.385-07:00"Hunsdon said...
A search for "Georgia i..."Hunsdon said...<br />A search for "Georgia invaded Russia" 2008 returned zero results for me."<br /><br />Err.... <br /><br />Here's a BBC documentary on the Ossetian war. When you watch it, you will realize two things:<br /><br />1) It is very good, and impartial<br /><br />2) This will NEVER be shown on American television<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-ALvCYlZvYAmericanGoyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00865892490752172185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-85344405221798786072014-03-22T15:31:02.440-07:002014-03-22T15:31:02.440-07:00It's always harder to think of the little guy ...It's always harder to think of the little guy as the aggressor.Miguel S.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-73738650055297480382014-03-22T15:16:57.808-07:002014-03-22T15:16:57.808-07:00I kept thinking about this.
I'm interested wh...I kept thinking about this.<br /><br /><i>I'm interested what Steve's logic is going to be when the Russian tanks knife into Estonia to protect the Russian colonists rights against the indigenous Estonians. I'm betting indigenousness won't matter so much anymore.</i><br /><br />Strange why you had to bring up the question of what Steve will write if and when Estonia will be occupied by Russian tanks. <br /><br />Does that mean that you disagree with Steve's position because you think Steve will take an inconsistent position in the eventuality of a Russian incursion in Estonia, or because you would be against his position even if his position proved to be more principled than you now imagine?reiner Torhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07870196532441237336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-38897358959276564472014-03-22T15:09:39.855-07:002014-03-22T15:09:39.855-07:00"If indigenousness mattered then Putin would ...<i>"If indigenousness mattered then Putin would be giving the Crimea back to the Tartars."</i><br /><br />Tatars are relative newcomers to the Crimea. In historical times Greek presence there was especially lengthy, though Romans, Goths, Italians, Turks and many others had their turns. There are still some Greeks on the northern Black Sea coast, including in the Crimea, though they're most numerous in Mariupol. A large share of place names in the Crimea are of Greek origin - Simpheropol, Sevastopol, Theodosia, Eupatoria, etc. Russians still sometimes call the Crimea Tavrida, which was its Greek name. It sounds romantic, like Albion for Britain or Gaul for France. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-3072985068967621422014-03-22T14:58:26.186-07:002014-03-22T14:58:26.186-07:00Russian tanks knife into Estonia
I personally wou...<i> Russian tanks knife into Estonia</i><br /><br />I personally wouldn't support that one.reiner Torhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07870196532441237336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-81658550578066437172014-03-22T14:40:33.537-07:002014-03-22T14:40:33.537-07:00Matt Buckalew said: Right now apply this logic to...Matt Buckalew said: Right now apply this logic to California. Oh right you can't because you aren't indigenous, but you think your wishes should be adhered to over those of the far more indigenous Hispanic residents there.<br /><br />Hunsdon said: Hi, Matt! What do you mean by "indigenous"? Do you mean, "Mexican or Hispanic"? Most of the Hispanic population of California is not indigenous.Hunsdonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-73094867127301242442014-03-22T14:38:08.544-07:002014-03-22T14:38:08.544-07:00Anonydroid at 1:02 PM said: When I googled Hundso...Anonydroid at 1:02 PM said: When I googled Hundson + a woman's touch google just laughed at me.<br /><br />Hunsdon said: A hit, a hit! A very palpable hit. You have wounded me to the quick.<br /><br />Anonydroid: No one would ever claim that Georiga invaded Russia because that would be absurd. <br /><br />Hunsdon said: Since Russia had occupied (parts of) South Ossetia since the fall of the Soviet Union, South Ossetia was de facto if not de jure, Russian territory. Given the information level of US media, I figured it was worth a shot.<br /><br />I am glad to have amused you.Hunsdonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-90779397994546420132014-03-22T14:13:47.239-07:002014-03-22T14:13:47.239-07:00What do you think these state supported neo-Cossac...What do you think these state supported neo-Cossack groups are about? Russia is consciously developing the kind of tribal structures amongst its own people necessary to manage chaps like Chechens and Uzbeks in the long term.<br /><br />If any of these peoples ever presents a real threat to Russia, they will be destroyed. Everyone in that part of the world knows that. The idea is to build up Russian society so they can deal with these folks in less extreme ways. Russians who are members of honor bound Cossack clans are not going to be vulnerable to Chechen extortionists. Observant Orthodox Russians are not going to decide they need radical Islam to give meaning to their lives. <br /><br />In the mean time, many Chechens will assimilate and Putin doesn't want violence against them to slow that process down. <br /> <br />"If indigenousness mattered then Putin would be giving the Crimea back to the Tartars." <br /><br />You mean the Scythians? Last time I checked, the Mongols were not indigenous to the Black Sea region. <br /><br />ATBOTLnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-74043687227509488182014-03-22T13:55:44.229-07:002014-03-22T13:55:44.229-07:00"This is what GW Bush and every Republican pr..."This is what GW Bush and every Republican presidential candidate with the exception of John McCain is trying to do to."<br /><br />Er no. Republicans at the national level have fallen over themselves to balkanize America for money.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-12032489933523272092014-03-22T13:46:37.311-07:002014-03-22T13:46:37.311-07:00Why does everyone give Putin such a pass, but neve...<i>Why does everyone give Putin such a pass, but never stop to consider just how difficult our political environment is to navigate for a right of center party. Honestly, considering the playing field with which they have to vie I consider the Republican party a far better force for conservatism and western culture than Putin. </i><br /><br />You omit one huge point, probably because you are too young. Remember the USA as recently as forty years ago was 85% European. As recently as thirty years ago Reagan won 49 states. The so-called difficult political environment you mention was actually playing in favor of a center and center-right government.<br /><br />So how did the GOP deal with this? They continued to import third worlders. Reagan even amnestied 3 million or so in 1986. And no republican since has really done anything to curtail this trend. In fact the republicans in charge, like W, have exacerbated it.<br /><br />Any difficulties republicans now face were created in large part by them.<br /><br />Putin inherited the people from the Caucasus region who have been part of Russian history for centuries. Our leaders imported our diversity literally overnight and continue unabated in one of the largest migrations of people in history.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com