tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post3784514730791415058..comments2024-03-28T16:22:14.888-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: Why South Africa isn't going to be Zimbabwe SouthUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger89125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-47872370685514769172009-07-15T10:26:01.881-07:002009-07-15T10:26:01.881-07:00yaaaaaaaaa i think its true...........
Boise rea...yaaaaaaaaa i think its true...........<br /><br /><a href="http://www.randygridley.com" rel="nofollow"> Boise real estate </a>prashanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04583385332262124749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-54467794910928365172009-07-05T13:50:24.642-07:002009-07-05T13:50:24.642-07:00Lucius Vorenus said...
"I've also often ...Lucius Vorenus said... <br />"I've also often wondered why the Boers don't just secede.<br /><br />Let the natives keep all the best farmland & mineral deposits in the east, and head off into the dry, arid land out west."<br /><br /><br /> They tried. They tried giving independence to some black areas but the international powers would have none of that. This had been done by Britain before who gave independence to Lesotho and Swaziland but when the Republic of South Africa tried it the power in London would not allow it.<br />Read the article <br />The nature of the Beast in this page<br />http://www.zasucks.com/?paged=11<br /><br />Read what really happened in South Africa, something your newspaper of the Tv will never tell you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-78208739345507552542009-07-05T09:43:36.137-07:002009-07-05T09:43:36.137-07:00It's all a conspiracy!
"For one thing, s...It's all a conspiracy!<br /><br />"For one thing, stop being so fresh :-(.<br />Secondly, to use a 'Testy-esque' term, you are 'out of your depth' if you don't understand (or worse, willfully overlook) the significant role the Rothschild's and other Jewish financial families/firms played in the expansion of the 'British' empire in the 19th and early 20th century [How sadly hypocritical when you think about it: The 'British' ;-) "do the crime"--whilst the Afrikaners have to "do the time" :-(]!"<br /><br />Crime? Which crime? The Afrikaners are hardly squeaky clean and you are wrong to say it's a strict Afrikaner/Anglo-African divide. I wouldn't fancy being any kind of white South African at the moment. Do you think a gang of robbers will bother to check your surname before they carjack you? Afrikaners were in charge from 1948 and now someone else is.<br /><br />Nothing you have said is new to me and it's hardly strong evidence of a massive conspiracy. You also can't look at the expansion of the British Empire without seeing plenty of financiers and merchants who were not Jewish and whose firms' sucessors are still a big deal. You also could just have easily name dropped some powerful old families who aren't Jewish and who were very powerful at the time and who still have great wealth.<br /><br /><br />"Precisely, an <br />OCCASIONAL 'sympathetic article'!"<br /><br />You want it written up all the time? I see plenty of articles about what a shithole South Africa (and Zimbabwe too) now is. We aren't all Peter Gabriel. I predict a lot more articles in the run up to the 2010 world cup, which is going to be a security nightmare. <br /><br />"Welcome to the Matrix, Mate!"<br /><br />Don't mate me fella! (chuckle)<br /><br />I don't think your wrong about everything I mostly just think you're wrong about British people supposedly hating Afrikaners and also that you overestimate the Rothschilds infleunce. I think it's fair to say they have seen better days. Most Brits nowadays probably can't tell the difference between Boer or Anglo South Africans and it's not as if they two groups don't interbreed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-86597066011113411712009-07-04T22:44:20.390-07:002009-07-04T22:44:20.390-07:00"I never said the Oppenheimers weren't Je..."I never said the Oppenheimers weren't Jewish, but they aren't Rothschilds. Clearly you are one of those maniacs that sees the fingers of Rothschild everywhere. Save us from their terrifying boutique investment firms and zoological exhibits! Aaargggh no! The Tring Museum!"<br />__<br /> <br />Ah BALDERDASH!<br /> <br />For one thing, stop being so fresh :-(.<br />Secondly, to use a 'Testy-esque' term, you are 'out of your depth' if you don't understand (or worse, willfully overlook) the significant role the Rothschild's and other Jewish financial families/firms played in the expansion of the 'British' empire in the 19th and early 20th century [How sadly hypocritical when you think about it: The 'British' ;-) "do the crime"--whilst the Afrikaners have to "do the time" :-(]!<br /> <br />*<br />"...how do you explain the occassional sympathetic newspaper articles about them being murdered in their farms?"<br /> <br />Precisely, an OCCASIONAL 'sympathetic article'!<br /> <br />*<br />"Why do you think Rhodesia was called Rhodesia?"<br /> <br />Who do you think Cecil Rhodes was financed by!?!<br /> <br />"---In October 1871, Rhodes left the colony for the diamond fields of Kimberley. Financed by N M Rothschild & Sons, Rhodes achieved a virtual monopoly in the diamond mining industry, Rothschild also profiting on the yield from the future exploitation.---"<br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cecil_Rhodes<br /> <br />&<br /> <br />"Among the most ardent supporters of Cecil Rhodes' "Cape to Cairo all-British Route" were Jews like Alfred Beit and, later, the Weil family at Mafeking. Jews lived with Lobengula about 1865, and D. F. Kisch, later of Pretoria, was his chief adviser from 1868 to 1873, and immediately after his fall in 1893 Jewish congregations were established in Buluwayo and even as far north as Salisbury."<br />http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?artid=988&letter=S<br /> <br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Beit<br /> <br />http://hubpages.com/hub/Tragedy_and_Hope<br /> <br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iRHbBiHuuA<br /> <br />*<br /> <br />Remember, it is not ultimately WHAT you know, it is what you ALLOW yourself to KNOW if one is truly to be free.<br /> <br />Welcome to the Matrix, Mate!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-26470018165407249312009-07-04T09:01:03.756-07:002009-07-04T09:01:03.756-07:00"I say pure POPPYCOCK, since Britain, like Si..."I say pure POPPYCOCK, since Britain, like Simon says, has been the historical persecutors of the Boere/Afrikaner people, "<br /><br />Hardly out of hate. <br /><br />If we thought of Afrikaners are 'orcs' how do you explain the occassional sympathetic newspaper articles about them being murdered in their farms? Our journalists don't say they deserved it.<br /><br />I never said the Oppenheimers weren't Jewish, but they aren't Rothschilds. Clearly you are one of those maniacs that sees the fingers of Rothschild everywhere. Save us from their terrifying boutique investment firms and zoological exhibits! Aaargggh no! The Tring Museum! <br /><br />Lots of non Jewish people were and are involved in African minerals and it didn't take any Jews for us to want them. Why do you think Rhodesia was called Rhodesia?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-7097123918386141602009-07-03T15:18:14.230-07:002009-07-03T15:18:14.230-07:00"Don't talk bollocks Simon. I don't k..."Don't talk bollocks Simon. I don't know anyone who 'hates' Afrikaners."<br /><br />I say pure POPPYCOCK, since Britain, like Simon says, has been the historical persecutors of the Boere/Afrikaner people, <br /><br />...particularly with their role as attack dog for securing the mineral wealth and resources for the Rothschilds and their confederates, such as the Oppenheimers.<br /><br />Who were the 'Oppenheimers' after all, Scots Highlanders?? (lol)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-33436816351539951842009-07-03T11:07:52.621-07:002009-07-03T11:07:52.621-07:00I believe 'Albert Schweitzer' is confusing...I believe 'Albert Schweitzer' is confusing the Rothschilds with the Oppenheimers. <br /><br />Central Holdings (Oppenheimer Family) owns forty per cent of De Beers, compared to Anglo-American's forty five per cent. And the Chairman of De Beers has always been an Oppenheimer.<br /><br />"Speaking as a Brit, I'd have to say that this sounds right. In the British MSM, Rhodesian and Anglo-SA whites count as people, Afrikaners are orcs.<br /><br />Machiavelli said that if you want someone to like them, get them to do you a favour. The converse is that is you want to really hate someone, commit a crime against them. Britain's appalling treatment of the Afrikaners seems to require that they be regarded as monsters. Otherwise we'd feel bad."<br /><br />Don't talk bollocks Simon. I don't know anyone who 'hates' Afrikaners. <br /><br />As for emigration. As far as Britain is concerned an Afrikaner won't be treated any different than a British South African or indeed a black one unless one of them has recent enough British ancestry to qualify for citizenship by blood. Interestingly although an 'EU citizen' can enter this nation and secure leave to remain and work legally with far more ease than a South African or Australian he could not join the armed forces. You need to be British, Irish, or Commonwealth citizen to join the Armed Forces of the Crown.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-75701908935088358152009-07-03T07:30:18.050-07:002009-07-03T07:30:18.050-07:00And then there is this from www.zasucks.com. It lo...And then there is this from www.zasucks.com. It looks like mineral resources are not going to save them:<br /><br /><i>ANCYL </i>(ed: ANCYL = AfricanNational Congress Youth League)<i> President Julius Malema’s speaking notes on the opening of the Youth League political school, Croco Lodge, Krugersdorp, July 1 2009</i><br /><br />“At this moment in time, when the imperialist forces are realising the accepting the failure of capitalism, we should ask whether the time has not arrived for the government of South Africa under President Zuma to make sure that the State owns the Mines and other means of production as called for in the Freedom Charter.<br /><br />The Freedom Charter unites us in recognition of the fact that for genuine liberation, “the mineral wealth beneath the soil, monopoly industry and banks should be transferred to the ownership of the people as a whole”.<br /><br />The truth is that the main vehicle to transform and better the living conditions of our people is through the transfer of wealth from the few to the majority, and we should do that with determination.<br /><br />We have to accept that the implementation of the Freedom Charter will not please everyone. Our responsibility and obligation is to please the majority of our people, so we should not be worried that there will be problems when the Freedom Charter is implemented. It should be implemented.”<br /><br />Julius MalemaBig Billnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-37813189366899022772009-07-02T22:40:15.738-07:002009-07-02T22:40:15.738-07:00"I've met people from SA while living in ..."I've met people from SA while living in Japan and Taiwan. My impression was that the "British" South Africans tended to be more the whiny liberal types whereas the Afrikaans tended to be of sterner character."<br /><br />It gets even better than this, since many of those "British" SA's are in fact heavily involved with the De Beers gangster diamond cartel!<br /><br />Now let's see, what 'ethny' has historically dominated in this 'industry'? <br /><br />Welsh?, Scots?, Faroe Islanders? (LOL)Albert Schweitzernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-57196964628454252862009-07-02T16:53:11.105-07:002009-07-02T16:53:11.105-07:00I know that the Brits basically invented concentra...I know that the Brits basically invented concentration camps to put the Boers in them. I've heard that Winston Churchill was involved in this. <br /><br />I also heard that the Boers tend to get along better with blacks than the "British" SA people. Is this true? <br /><br />I've met people from SA while living in Japan and Taiwan. My impression was that the "British" South Africans tended to be more the whiny liberal types whereas the Afrikaans tended to be of sterner character.kurt9https://www.blogger.com/profile/02101147267959016924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-50639656826990846952009-07-02T08:24:52.887-07:002009-07-02T08:24:52.887-07:00headache:
"Now we have to emigrate, start all...headache:<br />"Now we have to emigrate, start all over again and are mostly treated on par with Turks, Blacks and Pakistani's in most of the Western nations..."<br /><br />It's true that that is govt policy in the UK. I don't think too many Brits feel that way, though. I certainly know who I prefer as neighbours! If anything we Brits have a bit of an inferiority complex re SA-ers and Rhodesians, as well as Americans. Not so much re Australians ("great bar staff!") or New Zealanders ("boring... sheep..."), though. South Africans work really hard and demand high standards, which makes us raise our game. Sometimes that can get tiresome.Simonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-19964644804656488692009-07-02T05:23:22.726-07:002009-07-02T05:23:22.726-07:00I'm closing my comments.
Simon has it right:...I'm closing my comments. <br /><br />Simon has it right: The British have an apology and reparations outstanding to the Afrikaner. Of course they don't want to hear it, because the Afrikaner humiliated them in both Boer Wars, in 1948 and Britain is now effectively broke and without an empire. It’s tough for the ego. But just as the Afrikaner got over admitting the bad parts of Apartheid and paying more than reparations by handing over the country, it's not too much to ask from Britain. <br /><br />The Queen could take the lead, since she essentially represents that part of British society most responsible for the concentration camps in which 26000 Afrikaner women and children died, for the suppression of Afrikaans, for stripping the Afrikaner of the gold and diamond wealth of the Transvaal, the political and economic suppression of the Boers and all attempts till this day at preventing the Afrikaner from taking his rightful position on the world stage. Instead of eating dinner with and holding Mandela’s hand she should stretch out a hand of humility towards the Afrikaner and turn the appalling attitude of the British establishment towards the Afrikaner around. She more than everybody else holds the key.headachenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-48720044629779647222009-07-02T02:11:56.363-07:002009-07-02T02:11:56.363-07:00What is your opinion of the South African novelist...<i>What is your opinion of the South African novelist Wilbur Smith?</i><br /><br><br />Never read him. South Africa provides enough drama in real life. No need to read any novels. Being born there as a white person really sucks. The place was always on the verge of being a Third World country, and now the total disaster has set in. On top we don't even get recognition for being as generous to blacks as to literally hand the place to them on a silver platter. Now we have to emigrate, start all over again and are mostly treated on par with Turks, Blacks and Pakistani's in most of the Western nations.<br /><br />Sorry, can't help you with the language problem. Afrikaans is a genetic language in that only those born as Afrikaners speak and read it. Nobody voluntarily learns it. Yet another result of the incessant anti-Afrikaner propaganda by the British establishment.headachenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-8937257378630212582009-07-01T21:38:34.537-07:002009-07-01T21:38:34.537-07:00headache,
Thanks for the links. Unfortunately I d...headache,<br /><br />Thanks for the links. Unfortunately I do not read Afrikans. Afrikans appears similar to Dutch. Perhaps it is derived from it.<br /><br />What is your opinion of the South African novelist Wilbur Smith?kurt9https://www.blogger.com/profile/02101147267959016924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-55186756337872707822009-07-01T18:52:21.939-07:002009-07-01T18:52:21.939-07:00"bet you the chinese move in and take over th...<i>"bet you the chinese move in and take over the operation when some corrupt warlord takes over."</i> <br /><br />You'd win, and more power to em. They know how to do business. It can be the "yellow man's burden" from here on; I couldn't give a rat's ass about that continent, except for the big cats, who have my respect.Dave Lincolnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-30325867029830527972009-07-01T18:50:00.070-07:002009-07-01T18:50:00.070-07:00"---Britain's appalling treatment of the ..."---Britain's appalling treatment of the Afrikaners seems to require that they be regarded as monsters. Otherwise we'd feel bad.---"<br /><br />Thanks for the recognition of this, bro! You are a good man!<br /><br />~<br /><br />"De La Rey, De La Rey sal jy die Boere kom lei?<br /><br />De La Rey, De La Rey<br /><br />Generaal, generaal soos een man, sal ons om jou val.<br /><br />Generaal De La Rey."<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAhHWpqPz9A&feature=related<br /><br />http://outoppie-localislekker.blogspot.com/2009/05/de-la-rey-lyrics.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-23738278387633456692009-07-01T18:49:36.252-07:002009-07-01T18:49:36.252-07:00"Dave Lincoln has been to South Africa, and n...<i>"Dave Lincoln has been to South Africa, and no one else here knows anything about it."</i><br /><br />Nope, never been, and there's no way I want to go there now. Who told you my itinerary? (They lied to you, whoever it was.)<br /><br />Why don't you expound on their economic system, Mr. Anonymous?Dave Lincolnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-83932822778046340042009-07-01T15:54:11.309-07:002009-07-01T15:54:11.309-07:00The World Cup will be held in South Africa a year ...The World Cup will be held in South Africa a year from now. They just finished the Confederations Cup in South Africa (USMNT 2nd place). Expect the Western media to play up a "happy" picture of South Africa. I imagine they will be able to pull it off somehow, with the Western media not drawing too much attention to SA's underlying problems (unless these can be spun as cause for more Western guilt-tripping and do-goodism). <br /><br />For the past couple of years there have been serious doubts expressed about SA's ability to host the 2010 World Cup and rumors that it would be moved to another country. I've talked to South Africans on soccer forums who brought up that figure of increased GDP in South Africa as "proof" that SA is improving. <br /><br />I'm not sure I'd trust any figures put out by the SA govt. to begin with, however what GDP measures is not necessarily the real economy. Exporting the local mineral resources may give a boost to GDP, but this simply masks the underlying rot as the infrastructure deteriorates and the best educated, high IQ whites, asians and others flee the country. <br /><br />Also you guys are being too hard on Steve, I don't think he was seriously saying that mineral resources will "save" SA. I took his post to be a little tongue in cheek.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-73490374625294064802009-07-01T14:41:20.904-07:002009-07-01T14:41:20.904-07:00boots:
"I suspect the media quiet in Britain ...boots:<br />"I suspect the media quiet in Britain has to do with the historic hatred of the British towards the Afrikaner, and in the US due to internal political concerns."<br /><br />Speaking as a Brit, I'd have to say that this sounds right. In the British MSM, Rhodesian and Anglo-SA whites count as people, Afrikaners are orcs.<br /><br />Machiavelli said that if you want someone to like them, get them to do you a favour. The converse is that is you want to really hate someone, commit a crime against them. Britain's appalling treatment of the Afrikaners seems to require that they be regarded as monsters. Otherwise we'd feel bad.Simonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-87019180529106479262009-07-01T09:36:13.764-07:002009-07-01T09:36:13.764-07:00Having thought about it, I agree that South Africa...Having thought about it, I agree that South Africa is different from Zimbabwe.<br /><br />From a world perspective, viable mines are much scarcer than viable farmland. In other words, the world needs the metals which could be extracted in South Africa much more than the world needs the crops which could be grown in Zimbabwe.<br /><br />So it's probably true that South Africa won't get as bad as Zimbabwe. Nevertheless, things could get pretty bad.sabrilnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-12063765836829098502009-07-01T09:31:11.518-07:002009-07-01T09:31:11.518-07:00Anonymous: ...the Boers would have to totally chan...<b>Anonymous:</b> <i>...the Boers would have to totally change the way they farm...</i> <br /><br />I thought there was a group of Boers who had completely eschewed Black labor and who were trying for economic independence & self-sufficiency.<br /><br /><b>Albert Schweitzer:</b> <i>Yes, this was thanks to the British being the Rothschild's flunkies, not by Boere initiative alone, if much at all.</i> <br /><br />Okay, are you being facetious?Lucius Vorenusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-47339113310506892512009-07-01T04:50:52.772-07:002009-07-01T04:50:52.772-07:00"American Renaissance had an article recently..."American Renaissance had an article recently about how importing blacks labor for mines and farms is what destroyed SA. Most of the blacks in SA came there after whites did."<br />__<br /><br />Yes, this was thanks to the British being the Rothschild's flunkies,<br /><br />not by Boere initiative alone, if much at all.<br /><br />Remember also the world's FIRST concentration camps built by the BRITISH to imprison Boere women and children?<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtKKJSfYraU<br /><br />General Jacobus Herculaas de la Rey -<br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koos_de_la_ReyAlbert Schweitzernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-75394587951283282532009-07-01T01:08:52.702-07:002009-07-01T01:08:52.702-07:00kurt9,
Thanks for asking. Like I said, the real a...kurt9,<br /><br />Thanks for asking. Like I said, the real action is off the radar because the liberal establishment either does not understand the ethnic nature of South Africa or they don't want to see it. Well, if they acknowledged it then the obvious question is why they hated Apartehid so much, since it was a rather benign ethnically-based political system.<br />The result is that any reporting worth reading is in Afrikaans.<br />Threre are 2 guys in the know. The one is an Afrikaner intellectual/language activisit whom I hope will become an Afrikaner leader. He has similarities with Steve but is alpha, not beta (sorry Steve). His name is Dr. Dan Roodt. His site: praag.co.za<br /><br />The other guy is in the know concerning the crime syndicates, farm murders and has good connections on the security level with the Zuma camp. He is very clued up and can read African sign language. He is a former military guy. His name is Lukas Swart, the site akska.co.za. He is even been called in on the Somali piracy issue because pirates use tactics similar to the syndicates in South Africa. But I should not say more.<br />Everything else is mostly rubbish, unfortunately.headachenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-23610505384742168512009-07-01T00:00:40.510-07:002009-07-01T00:00:40.510-07:00Here is the point: if and when the country descen...Here is the point: if and when the country descends into chaos, it will be impossible for the whites/"coloureds"/Indians/black middle class not to take over by force. And physically, it will be easy to do; their best chance legaly is to co-operate inter-racially and not to try to restore old-fashioned apartheid.<br /><br />Part of this might include a secession attempt by the Western Cape. This may or may not happen depending on the timing in relation to the rest of the country's stability.<br /><br />Whether or not any of this succeeds, and thereby restores order and civilisation, will depend on the dubious collection of sanctimonious moralisers and opportunists who like to call themselves "The International Community". In the final analysis, they are the major problem, since the good ones are naive and either stupid or totally divorced from reality, and the bad ones are only interested in propping up crooks.<br /><br />I am not optimistic. <br /><br />Anon.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-84333038257458699802009-06-30T22:25:46.601-07:002009-06-30T22:25:46.601-07:00"Once they're gone, South Africa will not..."Once they're gone, South Africa will not look like Zimbabwe, but rather like the Congo, which is a similar-sized country with vast mineral resources. We all know what a nice place Congo is."<br /><br />----<br /><br />Not THIS 'Congo' I hope? -<br /><br />=<br />Rioting Congo prisoners rape 20 women | International | Reuters <br />http://tinyurl.com/nxmkky<br /><br />Or this -<br /><br />HBO: The Greatest Silence: Rape in the Congo <br />http://www.hbo.com/docs/programs/thegreatestsilence/index.html<br />=<br /><br />Ah yes, what is the full official name of Congo?--<br /><br />"The DEMOCRATIC Republic of Congo"<br /><br />(Gives new meaning to the slogan 'de-mock-racy', doesn't it?)Albert Schweitzernoreply@blogger.com