tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post3980572660404554758..comments2024-03-27T18:24:19.683-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: Report for Congress on military: "Too many white men dying in combat"Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger74125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-30485355619519616772013-10-05T11:46:17.242-07:002013-10-05T11:46:17.242-07:00I served with one in 9 years who was outstanding, ...I served with one in 9 years who was outstanding, and since ahe was outstanding, everyone wanted to bone her, so no, women still don't belong.Stg58/Animal Mothernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-5626718337483603842013-10-05T11:31:13.240-07:002013-10-05T11:31:13.240-07:00The military isn't male enough or straight eno...The military isn't male enough or straight enough. The purpose of the military is to win wars. Nothing else matters, and anything that detracts from that mission must be excised from the martial structure of the US Military.Stg58/Animal Mothernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-76745823294514533482011-06-15T11:31:27.208-07:002011-06-15T11:31:27.208-07:00Diversity is a cancer!Diversity is a cancer!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-33863380774948763962011-03-12T18:35:08.169-08:002011-03-12T18:35:08.169-08:00"No one wants to be in combat unless they hav..."No one wants to be in combat unless they have some major delusions about their ability to be a hero and avoid being shot,"<br /><br />so they keep saying, and yet, wars and armies keep on keeping on, as do gangs and any number of quasi-military activities involving voluntary (usually) male participation. Why doesn't everybody just say no? Oh--that would be too "feminizing" of society. All this "alpha" male stuff, which I consider pretty much a crock, because people are so much more complicated than that, is all about fighting in some way or other. <br />As for women not enduring what men endure--they have in many parts of the world and in many times in history, with the added burden of children. Modern, western society has been what England of the 16th century claimed to be, "a hell for horses and a paradise for women." except America was never a hell for horses but it has been a comparative paradise for women.charlottenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-32789225668917676062011-03-10T08:10:10.713-08:002011-03-10T08:10:10.713-08:00"What you're saying here conflicts with a..."What you're saying here conflicts with all the observable evidence."<br /><br />That was a wise, well thought, and educational post, NOTA. <br /><br />The problem is, it does not address the underlying and covert issue with a lot of the silly, immature, and totally, reactionary criticizm of the Obama administration. <br /><br />You see, my friend...Obama ia black.Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-48114757758067389462011-03-09T19:07:48.498-08:002011-03-09T19:07:48.498-08:00Anonymous:
Gee, what a surprise, they stacked the...Anonymous:<br /><br />Gee, what a surprise, they stacked the commission with people who were very likely to give them the answer they wanted. Who could have foreseen such an occurrence?none of the abovenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-72573438957306454092011-03-09T19:04:21.291-08:002011-03-09T19:04:21.291-08:00Albertosaurus:
What you're saying here confli...Albertosaurus:<br /><br />What you're saying here conflicts with all the observable evidence. Use Greg Cochran's line: <em>how would the world look different if this were true?</em> <br /><br />First of all, if Obama is unwilling to strike at or retaliate against a Muslim country, then how can you explain what's going on in Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Yemen? We've *expanded* the war in Afghanistan and Pakistan under Obama, and we've started running drones and assassins in Yemen under Obama, in response to some failed terrorist attacks. How is this consistent with the idea that Obama won't order a strike against a Muslim country? <br /><br />The answer is, it's not consistent with that idea. Obama's administration has been just fine with blowing up, shooting, imprisoning, and kidnapping Muslims in Muslim countries. He's even claimed the power to assassinate US citizens with no trial or review ever, and one American Muslim living in Yemen is apparently on the hit list. <br /><br />If your beliefs were true, none of that would be happening. Obama would have necessarily stopped operations in Pakistan, and pulled out of Afghanistan as quickly as possible, <em>exactly as the liberal part of his base wanted him to do</em>. He would have refused to get involved in Yemen. All this would have probably hurt him politically, but would have looked exactly like a guy who ran as a centrist and governed as a liberal--something that honestly wouldn't have surprised many people. I'm not even sure his re-election prospects would be any worse, had he followed that strategy--the wars aren't too popular.<br /><br />But he did the opposite. The Obama administration's actions in the Muslim world are simply not consistent with this idea you have that Obama refuses to strike at Muslims. <br /><br />Given that, what would make any Muslim leader imagine that nuking us would not get retaliation? I mean, having some idiot board a plane with a bomb in his pants from Yemen got us sending assassins and drones into Yemen.none of the abovenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-37748412751824413462011-03-09T16:21:48.096-08:002011-03-09T16:21:48.096-08:00"It should be clear by now that Obama is pro-..."It should be clear by now that Obama is pro-Muslim."<br /><br />I thought he was pro-Jew.Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-83963874535424071332011-03-09T14:44:02.205-08:002011-03-09T14:44:02.205-08:00Has any one taken the time to see who the members ...Has any one taken the time to see who the members of this "independent commission" are?<br />Take a look at what "diversity" really is and it isn't white male or straight female. The "independent commission" members came in with an agenda and simply wrapped a report around them.<br /><br />Knowing some of the senior retired military officers, they got their stars by being quota fillers who had talented staffs specifically to keep them from screwing up. <br /><br />If an "independent commission" composed entirely of white, straight males and straight women came up with the recommendations that their are too manhy minorities in the military (Blacks make up less than 10% of the civilian labor force but 22% of the army and 18% of the military overall)--then said that both minority and female service members were being moved from support jobs to front line combat to ensure they had experience, there would be cries of sexism and racism. But it is OK when minorities claim discrimination.<br /><br />This "independent commission" was a sham and needs to be outed for what it is. A commision more fixated on quantity of race and gender rather than the quality of performance. How have we sunk so low??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-70534808392688967912011-03-09T11:01:52.873-08:002011-03-09T11:01:52.873-08:00What has given you the idea that we wouldn't r...<i>What has given you the idea that we wouldn't retaliate against a nuclear attack? That's nuts--a president who didn't retaliate would be hounded out of office, impeached and removed by his own party.</i><br /><br />I wish what you say were true. Even in the Cold War there were always those who adopted the attitude "Better Red than Dead". Fortunately the national leadership adopted a firmer line. For example Nixon adopted what he and Kissinger called the "Mad man" strategy. They tried to project the notion that they were just a bit unstable and were eager to launch.<br /><br />With MAD of course it's not so much what you would do as it is what the enemy thinks you would do. That makes it important to keep the enemy off balance. For example Islam and Islamic nations should believe that our President wouldn't hesitate to nuke Mecca under the right circumstances. <br /><br />Your notion that the Democrats would impeach and hound Obama out of office for compromising the credibility of MAD is pretty funny.<br /><br />Obama refuses to recognize that Islam is a danger to the US. He refused to let his administration use the term "terrorism". He has redefined NASA's mission to be pro-Islam. He bowed to the King of Arabia. <br /><br />He certainly doesn't convince me that he will retaliate against a Muslim attack. Why doesn't he round up some domestic Muslims when there is one of the many terrorist incidents? His policy seems to be to absorb these violent insults. I fear that as the incidents crescendo he will do nothing if and when the Islamists manage a nuclear incident.<br /><br />It is true that Bush might have done more but at least he attacked a Muslim nation after 9/11. With that he signalled that we would act decisively - it hardly matters which Muslim nation we attacked. It would have been more dangerous to have done nothing.<br /><br />It should be clear by now that Obama is pro-Muslim. It could be because he was born a Muslim, raised a Muslim, and most of his relatives are Muslims. He claims he converted to Christianity. Maybe so. Maybe not. It hardly matters. He leans towards Islam - that much should be noncontroversial.<br /><br />In any case at least there is some cause to suspect that some Islamist leaders might doubt that he would ever retaliate against a Muslim nation. That should worry everybody.<br /><br />AlbertosaurusAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-55741331159763322902011-03-09T04:39:33.058-08:002011-03-09T04:39:33.058-08:00"In other words, enlisted women don't wan..."In other words, enlisted women don't want to be in combat. The only women who do are the most promotion-crazed female officers, and the enlisted women aren't excited about getting themselves killed to help get these officers promoted."<br /><br />No one wants to be in combat unless they have some major delusions about their ability to be a hero and avoid being shot, the kind of thoughts that Hollywood likes to put into young men's heads. Officers may have a different outlook, as they may be in less danger than their subordinates.<br /><br />Women want to have their cake and eat it too. Not just in the military, but other fields, with benefits for danger, bad hours, etc. They don't want to endure what men have to endure, but want to be able to share the credit and pay for those things as though they had done them.Craig Tnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-48690959225967250432011-03-09T04:32:29.339-08:002011-03-09T04:32:29.339-08:00A paid job, you mean.
Okay, we now have a new &qu...<i>A paid job, you mean.</i><br /><br />Okay, we now have a new "funniest comment yet."Svigorhttp://majorityrights.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-60669686717275304942011-03-08T23:15:00.926-08:002011-03-08T23:15:00.926-08:00"Apparently you just can't talk about war..."Apparently you just can't talk about war that way - you know, with blood and gore."<br /><br />I think you misunderstand, chief; he can talk about war however he wants...and I can talk about him however I want...That's the American way.Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-15385523093428065132011-03-08T17:56:58.333-08:002011-03-08T17:56:58.333-08:00Looks like "sport" has offended Twoof...Looks like "sport" has offended Twoof's delicate, lady-like sensibilities. Apparently you just can't talk about war that way - you know, with blood and gore. Cause Twoof can see into your soul and all.<br /><br />"Sure there was. Whiskey, have you thought of taking a job as an inverse weathervane?"<br /><br />A paid job, you mean.<br /><br />Whiskey and Twoof are our two politically polar opposite buffoons on this forum.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-88019211884088986252011-03-08T17:36:28.361-08:002011-03-08T17:36:28.361-08:00"Your opting out had nothing to do with Jimmy..."Your opting out had nothing to do with Jimmy Carter, Gerald Ford, Rutherford B. Hayes or any other politician. You opted out because you feared receiving 50 bullets in your ass...the same reason I did."<br /><br />No I didn't. I was too young to believe I could be killed. Besides, as an Ivy grad, I would have been an officer -- in the rear with the gear.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-19107797097624192272011-03-08T16:07:43.471-08:002011-03-08T16:07:43.471-08:00"I feel I must be forgiven for opting out. An..."I feel I must be forgiven for opting out. And I do regret it."<br /><br />I forgive you for opting out, I didn't serve in the military,and you shouldn't regret it. <br /><br /><br />What you should regret is swagger-talking like you are in a Burt Lancaster movie AFTER you decided to opt out. <br /><br />Your opting out had nothing to do with Jimmy Carter, Gerald Ford, Rutherford B. Hayes or any other politician. You opted out because you feared receiving 50 bullets in your ass...the same reason I did.<br /><br />I've met a fair number of ex-military who actually served in firefights, and I have not yet met one who has spoken about murdering people with the excitement and reverence you did. <br /><br />Maybe your family is different, but from my limited sample size, Sport, that is not a "special forces" thing, it is a "chickenhawk" thing.Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-77317742890365937722011-03-08T15:37:29.424-08:002011-03-08T15:37:29.424-08:00"Congratulatoins, you've just outed yours..."Congratulatoins, you've just outed yourself as a keyboard kommando who's closest brush with military service was bumping into a guy doing an ROTC drill in the 9th grade."<br /><br />My closest brush with military service was our last family reunion: I have uncles, cousins, and a father who fought in WWII, Korea, and Vietnam. Having come of military age during the Carter Administration, I feel I must be forgiven for opting out. And I do regret it.<br /><br />Truth is a troll.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-37068617915982290292011-03-08T15:13:33.064-08:002011-03-08T15:13:33.064-08:00Actually whites are mediocre warriors who win most...<i>Actually whites are mediocre warriors who win most of the wars not due to fighting skill, even smart fighting skill, but superior technology, logistics, planning, and budgeting.</i><br /><br />Knight of Malta against the Sulton's forces? the British in India where the outgunned and out manned the whole time, especially during the sikh wars and the mutiny.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-74446922668501664252011-03-08T14:53:50.546-08:002011-03-08T14:53:50.546-08:00Whites are superior warriors and always have been....<i>Whites are superior warriors and always have been. That is why they see more combat. Killing is a skill like anything else, and smart white people do it better than anyone else, since it takes intelligence with testosterone.</i><br /><br />Actually whites are mediocre warriors who win most of the wars not due to fighting skill, even smart fighting skill, but superior technology, logistics, planning, and budgeting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-24141956796971760672011-03-08T13:32:56.851-08:002011-03-08T13:32:56.851-08:00Albertosauris:
Huh? The Obama administration app...Albertosauris:<br /><br />Huh? The Obama administration appears to have continued the same policy toward Iran as the Bush admin had--threats, sanctions, covert ops, everything. Where's the difference?<br /><br />We are constrained in our actions by the fact that, after a decade of pouring money and blood into Iraq and Afghanistan and Pakistan, there's no appetite at all for another war. Bush faced the same problem, as will Obamas successor. <br /><br />What has given you the idea that we wouldn't retaliate against a nuclear attack? That's nuts--a president who didn't retaliate would be hounded out of office, impeached and removed by his own party.none of the abovenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-45502871202337223822011-03-08T13:07:52.999-08:002011-03-08T13:07:52.999-08:00Huh...white men do the majority of fighting and dy...Huh...white men do the majority of fighting and dying in the Middle East? It's probably worse. The vast majority of the white men doing the trigger pulling in these places are white guys from small, red-state towns and cities.<br /><br />In effect, the entire War on Terror is really designed to make America safe for the Democratic Party. <br /><br />Think about. On 9/11, "diversity" that Democrats love so much hijacked a plane full of Democrats; crashed it into a skyscraper full of Democrats; and did all of this in the heart of a Democrat city. And what do Republicans do? They send their constituency to go fight and die to protect these Democrats.<br /><br />I say let the Democrats take the lead on national security matters, since it is their cities under attack. If New Yorkers think Al Qaeda is a threat, then they should recruit among their own citizens to fight.<br /><br />As far as the feminization of the military is concerned, well, that depends on what role the military will play here. As a supporter of the military-industrial complex, I do see the wars in the Mid-East as a useful exercise in urban pacification. Combine these skills with the white demographic military makeup and a Republican, anti-leftist dictator, and liberalism could easily be purged out of all American institutions.<br /><br />On the other hand, if the military is going to be captured by left-wing interests, then it is better to dilute that combat skill-base with homosexuals and women.<br /><br />In fact, it may be preferable to dilute the formal military combat arms. If military soldiers are driven to private companies like Blackwater and Diligence, then the Repubs can have their own private army of mercenaries.mapnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-33789018480251019012011-03-08T11:59:22.327-08:002011-03-08T11:59:22.327-08:00" knew a few who were decent enough people, a..." knew a few who were decent enough people, and performed well enough (I guess) in office situations. But the bulk were a bunch of whiny, malingering, politically self-serving whores who used the military as a dating pool or a cushy job center. I don't say this as a misogynist- I genuinely like women- but just being honest, that was my overwhelming experience across services, commands and geographical areas."<br /><br />Right. Either the Army turns decent women into whores and harridans, or the kind of woman who joins is trailer trash. Probably a mix.<br /><br />-Osvaldo M.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-10537818972843695462011-03-08T11:48:24.377-08:002011-03-08T11:48:24.377-08:0016 percent are women
That's pretty high.
Any...<i>16 percent are women</i><br /><br />That's pretty high.<br /><br />Any mention of women registering for the draft? You know, that "equal protection under the law" and discrimination by sex stuff we hear so much about.Fernandinandehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11253225431705407699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-44828032445971312912011-03-08T11:47:44.477-08:002011-03-08T11:47:44.477-08:00@SGOTI
Most of the women in the Army when I was i...@SGOTI<br /><br />Most of the women in the Army when I was in were of these types:<br /><br />1) medical personnel - the majority of which barely acted as if they were in the military, probably intended to use the military to springboard to a regular medical practice.<br />2) glorified government workers - by this I mean the paper pushers who varied very little from any local/state/federal workers; this group probably fits the majority of female 'soldiers'.<br />3) Lesbians with an authority complex. Civilians would recognize this sort as the same kind of women who end up becoming cops. The wannabe soldiers would probably come from this class.Scotsmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-77371676313927969502011-03-08T11:46:56.456-08:002011-03-08T11:46:56.456-08:00"If you can do everything a man can do, then ..."If you can do everything a man can do, then carry two steel roadwheels through the mud and then piss your name in the snow. No on both counts?"<br /><br />I see utility to being able to do the former, but don't even want to do the latter, even metaphorically. Makes me giggle just thinking about it. <br />So if that is the psychology you need, you're right sir. Women don't belong in the military unless they're Joan of Arc.<br /> But really, why is anybody in the American Army? There's no America anymore. You're fighting for fat-cat CEOs and power-pscho trippers that slime around the halls of "government" today, cliche as that sounds. Don't trust me. Gen. Smedley Butler said so 80 years ago and they're STILL AT IT! I just don't get it. I mean really...what are you fighting for? Jobs? Only for as long as you're in the military.charlottenoreply@blogger.com