tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post4099758101576063574..comments2024-03-15T20:52:26.967-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: GameUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger126125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-82286673025990503282009-03-21T15:40:00.000-07:002009-03-21T15:40:00.000-07:00roiss is not bad wookie at all.roiss is not bad wookie at all.Benjaminhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12539078553577303937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-28093669859032414382009-03-15T11:50:00.000-07:002009-03-15T11:50:00.000-07:00Anonymous,Your local nerd is probably an alpha mal...Anonymous,<BR/><BR/><I>Your local nerd is probably an alpha male since he is probably a family man who will leave more offspring that your jerk faux "alpha" with his feminine penchant for drama with several women.</I><BR/><BR/>That was true until maybe 20 years ago. The problem is that these days, your local nerd is NOT a family man with five kids, since he can't find a wife, since women aren't attracted to him, since he doesn't have GAME. And unless he gets some, he's not leaving any offspring.<BR/><BR/>In the old days, when traditional morality and traditional gender roles reigned, women got married off young to the good providers and had real reasons to appreciate and love them. Now, women are following not their fathers and their need to be financially supported, but their hormones, and their hormones are telling them to hop into bed with the most fun, exciting, socially dominant guy they can find, not the one who's the best provider and family man.<BR/><BR/>I'm living proof of this. I'm 32 years old, am reasonably good-looking, and family-and-committment oriented, have been looking for a wife since graduating from college, and, despite even going to medical school, making me the supreme stereotype of the prime catch (by old-fashioned standards), haven't been able to get non-hideous girls to give me the time of day. I've found it necessary to learn what I can from the seduction community, not to become a cad bedding 100 different women, but just to attract a wife.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06103202406769794293noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-73250182117665653552009-03-15T07:17:00.000-07:002009-03-15T07:17:00.000-07:00If there is any meaning to the term "alpha male" i...If there is any meaning to the term "alpha male" it is the maximization of offspring, not the maximization of sex partners. <BR/><BR/>Your family man with five kids is the alpha male whose descendants will last a long time. You urban jigolo who beds a hundred women that abort all the offspring or at best produce depressive alcoholic bastards will not survive the next generation.<BR/><BR/>Your local nerd is probably an alpha male since he is probably a family man who will leave more offspring that your jerk faux "alpha" with his feminine penchant for drama with several women.<BR/><BR/>Welcome to the real world for those who pursue some adolescent "alpha" bull crap bitch drama.<BR/><BR/>It is not the drama, it is the results: offspring.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-66911495412677275372009-03-14T22:27:00.000-07:002009-03-14T22:27:00.000-07:00It all goes back to birth control. And the men lik...It all goes back to birth control. <BR/><BR/>And the men like the freedom of not being tied down by kids even more than the women do.<BR/><BR/>Not having children, or not have many of them, alters a society radically. <BR/><BR/>The boys stay boys for longer, and the women have no hope that making them fathers will turn them into men. <BR/><BR/>Till this sick batch extinguishes its flame in somber and lonely old age, we'll hear more of the same absurd "gender war."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-67719781415821048082009-03-14T20:46:00.000-07:002009-03-14T20:46:00.000-07:00Women either want or don't want children. It's not...Women either want or don't want children. It's not even really up to men to make that decision, but life begins, or does not begin, or begins and is aborted, inside a woman's body. <BR/><BR/>Men will to a large extent go with the flow an meet female expectations to get laid. If women want children and marriage, the men will adapt. If women don't want to put up with a man's filth, cook for him, clean for him, bear children and care for children, then men will adapt to that too. <BR/><BR/>Smart people who let "ideas" get in the way of basic instincts are stupid. There is no way around that. Western society has constructed so many barriers to childbearing and easy ways out of marriage (no fault divorce, government money for single mothers, etc etc), but ultimately this is up to the individual woman. To listen to what her body tells her, or listen to her "girlfriends" or Sex and the City or whatever. <BR/><BR/>Western women are using what would be their best childbearing years (which biologically start in teens, whether Western smart people socially accept that or not) for education, self betterment, financial independence, etc. What is wrong with these women? <BR/><BR/>Who are the ones who pathologize male mating behaviors? Jealousy is taboo among the high IQ set. Courtship is now "stalking." Having children before age 30 is considered shockingly early, god forbid before age 20. Women have ordained all of these new rules, maybe because they prefer government handouts or single motherhood to dealing with men. <BR/><BR/>The money is running out very quickly, and this soft matriarchy will end as soon as the low hanging economic fruit disappear. Only then will these women remember to appreciate men and cherish men and do what it takes to attract a man and keep a man.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-65520417071123284252009-03-14T12:26:00.000-07:002009-03-14T12:26:00.000-07:00Black Sea wrote:A lot of it (Game Theory) seems to...Black Sea wrote:<BR/><BR/><I>A lot of it (Game Theory) seems to consist of deprogramming and reprogramming young men who've been trained to believe that woman are sexually attracted to sensitive, supportive, emotionally-sympathetic men. Don't get me wrong, women like having those kind of men around, they're just not particularly interested in screwing them.</I><BR/><BR/>Based on what I've learned so far, this is largely accurate, but with one major correction: we weren't trained to believe that women were <I>sexually attracted</I> to such men, just that they would like us as people and as a result would be willing to have sex with us (in the context of marriage) in exchange for what we offered. Women's sexual attraction was not on our radar screen. Sex was not something women wanted; it was something women allowed men to do to them. Women were innocent, pure, noble creatures who would never do anything so vulgar as become sexually aroused; that was what men did. Women innately desired the good life: marriage and family, and for this they required a kind, faithful man with a desire to have a family and the means to support one. We were told that if we would be sweet, sensitive, "nice guys" and openly proclaim our desire for marriage and family, women would like us. They would be drawn to us not out of sexual attraction, but because they found us sweet and kind and we could offer them the way of life they wanted.<BR/><BR/>Sure, as a result we would get to have sex with one of them, and this fact was often at the forefront of our minds, but it was really just a byproduct of this women-wanting-marriage-and-family, men-being-kind-and-sensitive-providers dance.<BR/><BR/>Of course, you can only experience so many years of seeing even the "good" girls at church ignore your sensitive, supportive, emotionally-sympathetic self as they get married off one by one to the more commanding and socially dominant guys who rode motorcycles to church, before you begin to suspect that what your mother always told you (i.e., the girls were going to love you when you grew up because you're such a good little boy) was something other than the truth. Then you accidentally stumble upon the seduction community online, and although you're initially repulsed by the decadent, hedonistic intentions of many of the men involved in it, you're just intrigued enough by their claim to have cracked the universal code of female psychology to stick around and see that yes, this does explain a lot.<BR/><BR/>The disappearance of traditional gender roles is a big part of the problem. A lot of us gen-Xers weren't taught how to be men by our fathers, because they no longer believed in that old ideal, and our malleable brains were at the mercy of our mothers, who raised us to be more like what they <I>thought</I> they wanted our fathers to be like rather than what's actually attractive to women. As a commenter on Roissy's blog put it once, a lot of what we're calling "game" used to be called "acting like a man."Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06103202406769794293noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-69127932000375405532009-03-14T08:36:00.000-07:002009-03-14T08:36:00.000-07:00"So I think it's highly questionable just how much..."So I think it's highly questionable just how much lives of sluthood do for women."<BR/><BR/>No amount of PC, feminism, liberalism, etc will change how most men view women who have numerous casual sex-partners, especially when they start looking for the mother of their future children. <BR/><BR/>I remember one blog-poster - forget just where - commenting on his college hook-up scene. He met a girl that he really thought he could eventually marry. The relationship flourished but as the time when he might be making the big decision of getting engaged approached, he said he and his lady walked into a local hangout where many of his friends went and he looked around the room. He realized that she had slept with most of the guys there. He backed off because, as he said, he couldn't face years of knowing that his wife had slept with most of his social circle in college, many of whom he planned to stay in touch with. <BR/><BR/>I also have to wonder how much of the difficulty conceiving that many women in their 30's have can be placed on the STDs that they picked up in their 20's and may not have even realized that they had.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-34671821824302045522009-03-13T19:30:00.000-07:002009-03-13T19:30:00.000-07:00There are lots of opinionated posters on this blog...There are lots of opinionated posters on this blog who think they know everything about the Game and are qualified to pass judgement but in reality they are just burning straw men.<BR/><BR/>I have traveled in this subculture and spent many weekends in the 'field' approaching 'sets' using the '3 second rule' with the aim of getting 'numbers', 'kiss closes' 'Day 2's' and 'F-Closes'. <BR/><BR/>I did it because I was single and having left the wide social circle of college I had returned to my home town where I had a tiny social circle and no prospects of meeting any potential girlfriends through convential methods, my introversion worked against me at work and my social circle was small with all the girls in it already taken.<BR/><BR/>I was drawn to the pickup community through the same marketing ploys that repelled the more socially conservative posters i.e. the promise of promiscuous sex with lots of gorgeous women leading to the perfect girlfriend. I brought their products and learnt all the rules of seduction but never implemented much of it as I was worried of coming off as a creepy weirdo - I freely concede that it does work if you have the guts for it and have seen it work spectacularly on the prettiest girls in the Bar or club. <BR/><BR/>What the Game or more importantly the community surrounding it did for me was give me a circle of friends and aquantinces on exactly the same wavelength as myself who were committed to meeting women. <BR/><BR/>So through them I overcame my fears of approaching women and met many women, with a few turning into romantic interests - whereas if I had followed convential theory and concentrated on my career I'd have had no dates and no girlfriends. <BR/><BR/>I realised early on that one didn't have to have to spin out pickup lines and routines to attract the opposite sex (though they helped) but that <BR/>one simply had to be persistent at approaching women in bars and clubs. So long as one was persistent in approaching women the laws of probability worked in ones favour. <BR/><BR/>I left the community due to work commitments and burning out due to not being able to keep up with the emotional, financial and time demands of the lifestyle. During this time however I had more success in the six months I traveled in this subculture than in the previous 6 years. I also fully intend to return to it.<BR/><BR/>As for the people who do 'game' typically they are in their twenties, having recently graduated from University. A number are professionals. Most are not nerds or losers and many vanish from the community once they have secured a long-term girlfriend, which if the relationship doesn't break up ultimately leads to marriage and babies (which I presume the people on Vdare think is a good thing - so long as its whites making the babies)<BR/><BR/>I do not think that the ideas behind the Game is evidence of the decline of western civilisation. Yes it is taking longer for men to settle down and raise families but this has little to do with the game which in my opinion speeds things up and more to do with the deteriorating socio-economic factors (much influenced by politics) which effectively prolong the adolescent teenage years into the mid-twenties. (i.e. longer education, stangnant real wages and a rising cost of living all work against the boy growing up into men).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-26126097127460480152009-03-13T19:22:00.000-07:002009-03-13T19:22:00.000-07:00Anonymous said...Higher IQ urban women in their 30...<I>Anonymous said...<BR/><BR/>Higher IQ urban women in their 30's are into exotic travel and affluent lifestyles. A senior associate at Big Law can provide that; a guy still working on his acting career while he serves coffee at Starbucks cannot.</I><BR/><BR/>These are exactly the kind of women that give men that involuntary shudder like the cold dry wind. Why the hell would a guy want a calculating older woman with high expectations and no commitment to anyone beside herself? Hooking up with that kind of woman is like asking for a knife in the back. <BR/><BR/>A Big Law fellow would take a starry-eyed 25-year-old over a critical, 35-year-old career woman any day of the week. The Starbucks coffee jerk is more likely to be stuck with the older woman, since he needs the money more. On the other hand, with game, the coffee jerk can have serial relationships with supple young women until he's in his early 40s or so. That's better than your typical marriage. <BR/><BR/>For full disclosure, I'm totally estranged from the opposite sex for the moment -- I need a break after getting raped by the family law system (which is totally ruled by females from top to bottom here), so I don't even want a woman in my house (besides my daughter, of course).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-28511637019023024772009-03-13T17:00:00.000-07:002009-03-13T17:00:00.000-07:00"The reason some women are having some much n..."The reason some women are having some much no relationship sex is ... Most men don't have a clue what to do. Therefore, some women want to test the goods before they invest in a relationship."<BR/><BR/>Wow. Maybe I'm way too naive and rustic here, but have these gals ever heard of the self-help or Love & Sex section of Barnes and Noble? Maybe they could teach (or learn together!) a few new tricks with a guy instead of writing him off forever after one bad lay?<BR/><BR/>Dr. Phil is a blowhard but he said one thing I agree with: <BR/>*paraphrasing*<BR/>"If your child wanted to get married, who would you advise them to marry? The person who loves them and would take care of them? Or the one they have good sex with?"<BR/><BR/>Sex is a pillar of a romantic relationship, but it's just one pillar.<BR/><BR/>"That demonstrates another advantage of traditional sub-cultures -- the women don't become prematurely hardened and haggard, looking like they were "rode hard and put away wet," as the old saying goes."<BR/><BR/>"My brother was once in Salt Lake City standing outside the temple where they have a wedding every few minutes because so many Mormons want to get married there, and he said that he was shocked to see so many stunningly beautiful young women come out one after the other, it almost made him want to convert right there."<BR/><BR/>Guess I'll have to take a vacation in Utah.<BR/><BR/>Here in my region of Illinois we have a few members of the Apostolic Christians. Not sure how to describe 'em.....slightly less conservative then Mennonites maybe. The women wear long skirts, often cover their hair, no cleavage etc. Most aren't real thin but most I've seen aren't all that overweight, at least while they're young. One tended my Mom when she was hospitalized a couple years ago and she was very pretty.<BR/><BR/>I'd like to echo the "rode hard and put away wet" observation. Apostolic Christian women are seldom "hot" due to their modest dress and hairstyles, but most I've seen are pretty in an understated way.<BR/><BR/>-Vanilla ThunderAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-91869817054148702122009-03-13T16:36:00.000-07:002009-03-13T16:36:00.000-07:00"They're not my type, but one thing that struck me..."They're not my type, but one thing that struck me is that every woman shown is maintaining a healthy body weight."<BR/><BR/>This appears true. There's something to be said about milling your own flour and churning your own butter. Physically healthy, mentally probably insane.Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-43131029589803605492009-03-13T15:27:00.000-07:002009-03-13T15:27:00.000-07:00"Needless to say, neither guy had a girlfriend. E..."Needless to say, neither guy had a girlfriend. Expect for these kind of rampages to continue."<BR/><BR/>It reminds me of a question Steve once asked: does steroids make you a jerk or do jerks take steroids? It's possible that being rejected by women makes you a monster, but it's at least as (and probably more) likely that women detected their incipient monstrousness and knew to stay the heck away.<BR/><BR/>I don't know, Maximillian, if polygamist cults can be really be called "traditional" if tradition means anything in the last 2000+ years of the Western mainstream. And it does result in the same thing the Walrus fears - frustrated bachelor men - just from a different direction.James Kabalahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02335302113772004687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-27169229795544138912009-03-13T15:03:00.000-07:002009-03-13T15:03:00.000-07:00The caption on the second picture said something a...<I>The caption on the second picture said something about them going out of their way to look "unsexy" and "unattractive"; I don't think they had to work too hard.</I><BR/><BR/>You have to recognize good genes when you see them.<BR/><BR/>My brother was once in Salt Lake City standing outside the temple where they have a wedding every few minutes because so many Mormons want to get married there, and he said that he was shocked to see so many stunningly beautiful young women come out one after the other, it almost made him want to convert right there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-3852805529176442062009-03-13T14:48:00.000-07:002009-03-13T14:48:00.000-07:00(I'm married and the author of the "hot potato" co...(I'm married and the author of the "hot potato" comment that Lucius V. replied to with such razor-sharp accuracy.) I recommend lonely agnostic/nonreligious men move to small towns and find a church where you feel comfortable. It's just that I feel bad that the religious men get all the non-rank-whore women, and/or that the non-rank-whore women are lonely. Perhaps church services can be an acquired taste ... especially for conservatives who value culture for its own sake, and who believe in a separation of civic life and state. <BR/><BR/>If someone asks if you believe, remember that "god" has many definitions. Tell them "god is why we love our fellow man" ... who could argue? My (eccentrically) religious wife was by far the simplest woman to court I've known - I didn't have to break any rules or tread that @$#@!! fine line between creepy and sissy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-81885652280569925172009-03-13T14:36:00.000-07:002009-03-13T14:36:00.000-07:00Truth,They're not my type, but one thing that stru...Truth,<BR/><BR/>They're not my type, but one thing that struck me is that every woman shown is maintaining a healthy body weight. So they'll live longer and be healthier in old age, thereby ensuring their availability for the grandkids. These are also women with several pregnancies each, and they had those pregnancies in their prime childbearing years when they still had time and energy to recover their figures. That's more than you can say for the typical middle-aged American woman: overweight, borderline diabetic, hypertensive, and reduced to wearing velour stretch pants because "they're comfortable."<BR/><BR/>--Senor DougAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-80682175563561474842009-03-13T14:16:00.000-07:002009-03-13T14:16:00.000-07:00"As another post says, it's the inevitable result ..."As another post says, it's the inevitable result of the confluence of wealth and the total personal freedom that comes from anonymity and the absence of any religious, moral or social restraint on sexual behavior. Can the genie be put back in the bottle?"<BR/><BR/>Yes, well, no. Sort of. Lots of sex + no babies = fewer inheritors of the decadent culture. Give it a few generations and voila. Europe is full of brunet polygamists who throw acid in the face for cheating. When you read a history book everything sounds like it happened overnight, but it looks different on the ground. Cultural replacement is happening right now. <BR/><BR/>Smart people don't really have any excuse for being so stupid and self destructive. Or maybe too much of what we call "intelligence" is just elaborate social plumage without real adaptive value. Dodo, prepare to meet the High IQ Secular Western Atheist.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-61202850379471531792009-03-13T13:44:00.000-07:002009-03-13T13:44:00.000-07:00You guys are all missing the point about "game", a...You guys are all missing the point about "game", and it's driving me nuts.<BR/><BR/>Game is all about understanding women's biological instincts, and how to best cope with them. As roissy commenter Dave put it : "the insight you can glean from the PUA on the principles dealing with females biological imperatives and their base motivations is quite instructive on learning to maintain a steady, monogamous relationship as well."<BR/><BR/>Another commenter on Roissy's blog, though, had another truism as well : "Success with women is more disillusioning than failure."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-10490170478146170532009-03-13T12:51:00.000-07:002009-03-13T12:51:00.000-07:00Sheesh, don't much know or care about "game", havi...Sheesh, don't much know or care about "game", having been reasonably self-assured and capable of meeting/picking up women since I can remember.<BR/><BR/>But Roissy, other than some funny lines on his blog, surely shouldn't be respected or emulated. <BR/><BR/>DC? Really? DC?!?! Easiest town in the world to pick up women. It's the city where Middle America goes. Fat chicks in flip flops. Short litle guys, office badges (I work for somebody who works for a Senator!) dangling from their necks at bars at 11PM. Foreign broads on daddy's VISA, getting to live a little differently, a little on the edge. A transient place, ideal for starfing strays out of a pack for a few weeks of "fun". <BR/><BR/>A well-cut suit, a litle humor, some travel, and I don't know, not being a complete effing pussy, and you'll see more ass than a rental car seat, "game" or no game. No great talent required. <BR/><BR/>Didn't even have to work at it. It was here, have some booty. Somehow in an age of multiple emails, crackberries, etc. women were still gullible enough to believe someone couldn't be reached, and that I could juggle 3-4 at a time. <BR/><BR/>Heartily glad I moved on from that place (geographically and mentally) to real life.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-24889737591815086222009-03-13T12:34:00.000-07:002009-03-13T12:34:00.000-07:00Hey sport;consider me a eunuchThe caption on the s...Hey sport;<A HREF="http://connectpoliticditto.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/flds.jpg" REL="nofollow">consider</A> me a <BR/><A HREF="http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://x9e.xanga.com/1e9c8b4156c37185428999/m142218578.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.xanga.com/TheTheologiansCafe/photos/9e1e9185428999%3Frewrite%3Dtrue&usg=__cAZHzS3CgweZPlHQTyNNqYzGXFY=&h=527&w=400&sz=35&hl=en&start=32&um=1&tbnid=i4lE3CFHWPC34M:&tbnh=132&tbnw=100&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dflds%2Bwomen%26ndsp%3D20%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN%26start%3D20%26um%3D1" REL="nofollow">eunuch</A><BR/><BR/>The caption on the second picture said something about them going out of their way to look "unsexy" and "unattractive"; I don't think they had to work too hard.Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-21372653483604366142009-03-13T11:40:00.000-07:002009-03-13T11:40:00.000-07:00Yeah, I can see where being with 11 year old twins...<I>Yeah, I can see where being with 11 year old twins who wear Laura Ingles dresses and grow their haid to their ankles would have it's advantages.</I><BR/><BR/>Anyone who didn't think those FLDS women in Texas were hot doesn't have the right instincts for replicating their genes. And did you notice that numerous adult women, one as old as 37, were mistaken for minors and taken into custody? That demonstrates another advantage of traditional sub-cultures -- the women don't become prematurely hardened and haggard, looking like they were "rode hard and put away wet," as the old saying goes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-18194985498795003322009-03-13T10:46:00.000-07:002009-03-13T10:46:00.000-07:00Michel Houellebecq writer better on this subject t...Michel Houellebecq writer better on this subject than anyone:<BR/><BR/><I>Just like unrestrained economic liberalism, and for similar reasons, sexual liberalism produces phenomena of absolute pauperisation. Some men make love every day; others five or six times in their life, or never. Some make love with dozens of women; others with none. It’s what’s known as ‘the law of the market’. In an economic system where unfair dismissal is prohibited, every person more or less manages to find their place. In a sexual system where adultery is prohibited, every person more or less manages to find their bed mate. In a totally liberal economic system, certain people accumulate considerable fortunes; others stagnate in unemployment in misery. In a totally liberal sexual system, certain people have a varied and exciting erotic life; others are reduced to masturbation and solitude. Economic liberalism is an extension of the domain of the struggle, its extension to all ages and all classes of society. Sexual liberalism is likewise an extension of the domain of the struggle, its extension to all ages and all classes of society.</I><BR/><BR/>In the last couple of days, a kid in Germany shot and killed 15 people, apparently targeting females, and a man in Alabama killed 11 people of both sexes, but since he killed his mother and grandmother, I think we can asssume his anger was directed primarily at women. Needless to say, neither guy had a girlfriend. Look for these kind of rampages to continue.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-13725033890305789742009-03-13T09:01:00.000-07:002009-03-13T09:01:00.000-07:00"Today's women, by the time they are in their 30's..."Today's women, by the time they are in their 30's, have had sex with dozens and dozens of men. If you want to get women IN THEIR PRIME, this is how you have to act now."<BR/><BR/>Even worse, because liberalism and feminism have taken away any sense of shame and conservative values of respectability, this is the way you have to act now just to keep your wife from falling out of love with you and divorcing you or cuckholding you for not "meeting her emotional needs".<BR/><BR/>And divorce, these days, means indentured servitude.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-67086233190803984702009-03-13T08:32:00.000-07:002009-03-13T08:32:00.000-07:00Men, who out of the two sexes are made to lead, do...<I>Men, who out of the two sexes are made to lead, do neither themselves nor present society nor future generations any favors at all by promoting hedonism. ... No man, certainly no leader, who cares about the world around him can responsibly seek to exploit that -- and certainly he cannot flaunt his doing so. Those who do are not men, they are pathetic worms.</I><BR/><BR/>Beautifully put, <B>Silver</B>. The core of the problem is not individual young women or young men, or even young people collectively. The problem is that our society has given itself over completely to empty and superficial values in this matter. <BR/><BR/>Although popular culture still treats sluttiness <I> per se </I> as a bad thing, all the behaviors that encourage sluttiness (and encourage men to take maximum advantage of it as long as they can) are flogged relentlessly in the media. <BR/><BR/>I don't think this is anybody's fault. As another post says, it's the inevitable result of the confluence of wealth and the total personal freedom that comes from anonymity and the absence of any religious, moral or social restraint on sexual behavior. <BR/><BR/>Can the genie be put back in the bottle? Probably not. Then again, PC in all its forms has had a resounding success in shaping public attitudes and behavior. If the same forces were marshalled to encourage female sexual restraint*, maybe it could be done. That will never happen, of course. <BR/><BR/>*Not a return to Victorian chastity, but a return to the sexual mores of, say, 1960, when a "nice girl" did not have sex with a man until the relationship had progressed to a certain level of commitment. That's enough to break the current destructive cycle.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-44710023470186562412009-03-13T05:33:00.000-07:002009-03-13T05:33:00.000-07:00"You can pretty much give up on the idea a finding..."You can pretty much give up on the idea a finding a non-promiscuous 20" <BR/><BR/>You can call it "no slut left behind", but the standards of slutiness have evolved. Any girl who is below the median in number of partners is not a slut, even though by 1950's standards she is probably a whoreAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-38402876690770194432009-03-13T04:07:00.000-07:002009-03-13T04:07:00.000-07:00'If you want to get women IN THEIR PRIME, this is ...'If you want to get women IN THEIR PRIME, this is how you have to act now.'<BR/><BR/>A mere hundred years ago, woman in her twenties was already past her prime in many societies. <BR/>Today we suffer media brainwashing campaign telling us old boilers like SJP and her wilted sidekicks are hot, sexy, and eminently desirable. Welcome to the New Prime.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com