tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post4616719536983621740..comments2024-03-15T20:52:26.967-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: The triumph of 1970s liberalism in a graphUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger113125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-35320867999864655202012-10-08T13:06:32.067-07:002012-10-08T13:06:32.067-07:00"Ex Submarine Officer said...
The 1970's..."Ex Submarine Officer said...<br /><br />The 1970's are what I call "The Golden Era of Sh*tty American Craftsmanship"."<br /><br />They were subsequently replaced with the era of excellent german and japanese craftsmanship. Which has since been replaced by the era of sh*tty mexican and chinese craftsmanship. That's progress.<br /><br />Movies and books were better in the 70s. They weren't all created for 13 year-old boys and thirty year-old women.Mr. Anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-82148819748759200142012-10-08T08:30:55.783-07:002012-10-08T08:30:55.783-07:00"The solution is not how to magically enginee..."The solution is not how to magically engineer human beings to be identical and interchangeable, but how to get folks to accept human diversity--human difference."<br /><br />Hypothetically, what if there were certain completely natural genetic traits that coded undesirable behaviors such as irresponsibility, dishonesty, unproductiveness, high crime, and careless breeding?<br /><br />Today, society doesn't want to accept this as diversity, we want to develop social institutions to mitigate the problems, and that often isn't successful. In the future, if we develop a more precise and exact understanding of the specific natural causes, biological treatments would be more appropriate and widely accepted.Clayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05193609370237229562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-35616737867578106202012-10-08T08:22:01.552-07:002012-10-08T08:22:01.552-07:00"Didn't you get the email? Blacks and Mex..."Didn't you get the email? Blacks and Mexicans are not particularly interested in being genetically engineered by white folks. They figure they are just fine the way they are. Don't you?"<br /><br />I personally know individuals of many ethnic groups including african americans who would love to tweak a gene or two in their children for various desirable effects (physical health/intelligence/more personable/etc). Ethnicity would not be the selling point. People generally want to preserve their ethnic identities, but still would love to change specific pieces.<br /><br />Also, most normal people (non-engineers) don't want to consider technology that is on the distant horizon.<br />Clayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05193609370237229562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-54698201849588866312012-10-07T19:41:21.127-07:002012-10-07T19:41:21.127-07:00"Black and white girls never had any interest..."Black and white girls never had any interests in common that I can recall. They lived separate lives."<br /><br />Women don't have common interests. <br /><br />Think about it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-47067257659663558002012-10-07T07:35:25.582-07:002012-10-07T07:35:25.582-07:00"Most of the black guys in the early '70s..."Most of the black guys in the early '70s looked more like Lamont Sanford or Rerun from What's Happening than Kevin Durant, so they weren't anything a good sized white guy couldn't handle"<br /><br />OF all of the black men out there, you pick<a href="http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/3232/kevindurantokc.jpg" rel="nofollow">Kevin Durant</a> as your icon of black masculinity?<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /> <br /><br />Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-11651170048160930352012-10-06T22:13:54.832-07:002012-10-06T22:13:54.832-07:00"Too bad integration didn't work, most of..."Too bad integration didn't work, most of us had high hopes for it."<br /><br />Wow ... you sound really sad ... too bad whole towns, neighborhoods, ways of life, and even lives had to be destroyed to see that your experiment in do gooderism failed.<br /><br />Spoken like a true reformed Maoist after the Cultural Revolution turned out to be a bust.<br />..."Hey you know the Cultural Revolution didn't go so well we ended up killing 50 million of our own citizens from starvation and other causes ...because we got these crazy idea that we just had to implement because it seemed so groovy..."<br /><br />Save the tears you clown.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-82878589194821987072012-10-06T22:00:09.178-07:002012-10-06T22:00:09.178-07:00"HLS students are even more highly selected o..."HLS students are even more highly selected on IQ than isteve readers (median LSAT score around 99th percentile of LSAT takers.."<br /><br />Speak for yourself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-83103255845771089392012-10-06T21:37:55.334-07:002012-10-06T21:37:55.334-07:00"I believe people like this are a big reason ..."I believe people like this are a big reason why the "far right" in America has been such a failure. These people are crazy and should be shunned and silenced. Any movement that lets crazies run wild will not be able to attract normal people. They don't seem to have as many people like this in Europe."<br /><br />ROTFLAMAO...but of course far left crazies get all sorts of honors and even their own TV shows on MSNBC.<br /><br />Gee ... I wonder why.<br /><br />Sir ... I implore you ... please remove your head from out of your butt before you embarass yourself further.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-60574555099865173642012-10-06T16:53:56.992-07:002012-10-06T16:53:56.992-07:00Most of the black guys in the early '70s looke...<i> Most of the black guys in the early '70s looked more like Lamont Sanford or Rerun from What's Happening than Kevin Durant, so they weren't anything a good sized white guy couldn't handle</i> <br /><br /><br />Yup, I remember that era well myself. That was before they all started taking steroids.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-42009168863861773642012-10-06T16:43:45.126-07:002012-10-06T16:43:45.126-07:00"That was not my experience going to a middle...<br />"That was not my experience going to a middle and high school that were majority poor and black. Remember that the drop out rate is very high among blacks, so violence prone individuals usually drop out. And many blacks also took athletics serious and feared missing games because of disciplinary issues.<br /><br />Certainly the blacks posed more problems and were more likely to be bullies, but this is extreme overstatement."<br /><br />I have many relatives and friends who attended newly integrated high schools schools in Boston, Newark, Pittsburgh, Wilmington Delaware and New York City in the late 1960's and 1970's and that's what they told me happened in their schools. In one school, there was a huge racial brawl after which almost all whites left. I was told that white students couldn't use the bathrooms or walk down certain hallways without being attacked. I'm sure these stories were not made up and I have uncovered many contemporary newspaper articles from all around the country where these things are discussed openly. <br /><br />Remember, this was the height of the black power era where every black street criminal believed he was a soldier in the race war. Many of these schools effectively went from 95% to 0% white within five years of busing. They weren't stable black majority schools.ATBOTLnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-18473655141217078692012-10-06T14:32:52.040-07:002012-10-06T14:32:52.040-07:00Kylie, I always look forward to your comments, so ...Kylie, I always look forward to your comments, so help me out. Why can't the explanation go something like this:<br /><br />education necessarily means civilizing myself;<br /><br />civilizing myself means means dissipating my aggression and anger;<br /><br />dissipating my aggression and anger means losing my best weapon to get what I want from whites, i.e. activating white guilt. <br />name redactednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-23793941956440233842012-10-06T10:06:29.192-07:002012-10-06T10:06:29.192-07:00"24% of Harvard Law School students do not bo..."24% of Harvard Law School students do not borrow any money at all to attend"<br /><br />Explain where you came up with this number. According to the <a href="http://www.law.harvard.edu/current/sfs/policy/packaging.html" rel="nofollow">official website</a>: <i>In 2011–12 approximately <b>82% of J.D. students received some form of assistance through Student Financial Services</b> in order to meet their education expenses. All of our institutional grant assistance is need-based and awarded solely on the basis of family financial strength.</i><br /><br />This does not mean the other 18% are white American students whose parents are paying cash. HLS students include non-whites, foreigners, and adults with established careers, and there are also grandparents, informal loans, and probably at least a few parents who end up taking out mortgages on their houses. <br /><br /><br />"Do you really think a quarter of isteve readers come from families that could plop down 200K on graduate school tuition?"<br /><br />The 82nd percentile of household wealth in the US in 2007 was $520,000. The 95th percentile was 1.7 million. And blacks/hispanics have relatively insignificant wealth compared to whites, so the percent of white households reaching those levels will be even higher.<br /><br />My impression is most isteve readers are in the top 10 percent of IQ. IQ is less than perfectly heritable, and correlations between IQ and wealth are also imperfect, but I would be surprised if something at least approaching 18% of isteve readers in the relevant age bracket do not come from families that could come up with $200,000 over three years to send a child to HLS.<br /><br />HLS students are even more highly selected on IQ than isteve readers (median LSAT score around 99th percentile of LSAT takers), so they'd be expected to come from somewhat higher net worth households on that basis alone. But my point is the difference is probably not large and even most of the HLS students from rich families will have no particular connection to the old American upper class.<br /><br /><br />"The faculty of such schools are even more likely to be from very high SES backgrounds"<br /><br />Certainly after correcting for IQ and ethnicity, I doubt it. <br /><br /><br />"the ones from low-SES backgrounds will instead choose to make millions in corporate law rather than bide their time in low-paying post-docs and judicial clerkships."<br /><br />Unfortunately, your "logic" leads you to conclusions that are close to the opposite of reality. Traditionally, corporate law is exactly the specialty where upper class / multigenerational upper-middle class "WASPs" were most highly represented. And, even today, I believe Jews a few generations removed from Eastern Europe are overrepresented to a greater degree on the faculties of elite law schools than among the partners of large law firms.n/ahttp://racehist.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-77469189941173531582012-10-06T07:18:36.707-07:002012-10-06T07:18:36.707-07:00"Actually, Republican now want to take it sev...<br /><br />"Actually, Republican now want to take it several steps further by (1) mandating that kids in "failing schools" be allowed to transfer anywhere within in the district "<br /><br /><br />Just to keep this straight, I want to make sure people understand how this is implemented. <br /><br />In order to transfer to any other school for any program, students in the Houston school district must have almost perfect conduct. Students who have been sent to the office with a disciplinary referral in the past like, 3 years are never eligible for transfers. Also, a transfer student can always be sent back to his zoned school if he does cause any trouble. <br /><br />Vouchers should only be used for stuff like charter schools that are run by private entities. Houston has Harmony Public schools company. Those schools attract better students because parents have to call and fill out forms and all that rigamarole, so there is a barrier to entry because the lazy and stupid can't clear even that low hurdle.<br /><br />Vouchers for real private schools should not be allowed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-48900930090717688182012-10-06T06:52:32.837-07:002012-10-06T06:52:32.837-07:00"Going to one of these schools was like a nev... "Going to one of these schools was like a never ending flash mob with daily ten on one beatings of white students, black gangs with knives and guns robbing whites..."<br /><br /> <br /> ... Certainly the blacks posed more problems and were more likely to be bullies, but this is extreme overstatement"<br /><br />LOL, overstatement? I thought it was a late night movie on Showtime!Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-8344686535533446142012-10-06T06:45:29.336-07:002012-10-06T06:45:29.336-07:00How Irish Catholic was Boston back then? Some of ...How Irish Catholic was Boston back then? Some of us can remember the day when, if you were from Southie or Dot, you identified yourself by parish.<br /><br />White flight created some problems for the area Catholic schools. A good percentage of the new kids from the city schools were just not up to the competition in an environment where two failing grades in a school year meant expulsion. My yearly tuition at a Catholic high school in Braintree (1976 grad) went from $125 to $750 in 4 years, prompting my dad to curse Judge Garrity from afar.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-81555163073131914672012-10-06T06:15:28.172-07:002012-10-06T06:15:28.172-07:00Republicans also are blocking efforts to treat sca...<i>Republicans also are blocking efforts to treat scam for-profit colleges differantly than real colleges, with the eventual result being higher interest rates and less availability of loans and aid for student able to get into real schools.</i><br /><br />Must be because Republicans are the spawn of Satan. Most ardent political partisans in the US are demented religious fanatics.fnnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-82256684023394054732012-10-06T06:02:15.530-07:002012-10-06T06:02:15.530-07:00The "far right" in Europe gets up to 20%...<i>The "far right" in Europe gets up to 20% of the vote in some countries. How is that possible in your world?</i><br /><br />Those countries-with the exception of France-have PR voting systems at the national level. National elections in France are two-round runoffs that are far more friendly to small parties than Anglo-Saxon plurality. Regional and municipal elections in France are mostly PR. Wikipedia says that FN has 118 seats on French regional councils.fnnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-44428357650765089862012-10-06T04:56:01.382-07:002012-10-06T04:56:01.382-07:00"Others believe demographic outcomes are dete..."Others believe demographic outcomes are determined largely by nature (in addition to nurture). The productive path for this viewpoint is genetic science & engineering.<br /><br />Why not pursue the productive path of your viewpoint rather than gripe and moan about the other camp?"<br /><br />Didn't you get the email? Blacks and Mexicans are not particularly interested in being genetically engineered by white folks. They figure they are just fine the way they are. Don't you? <br /><br />The solution is not how to magically engineer human beings to be identical and interchangeable, but how to get folks to accept human diversity--human difference. I celebrate racial and ethnic diversity, I don't want to eliminate it.Big Billnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-18570808524522459682012-10-06T02:56:50.046-07:002012-10-06T02:56:50.046-07:00Just a clown, why do you leave two blank lines be...Just a clown, why do you leave two blank lines between paragraphs when everyone else leaves one? It makes you come across as self-absorbed, monomaniacal, narcissistic... Even if you do believe that what you have to say is especially important.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-36560768965939073442012-10-06T00:28:51.413-07:002012-10-06T00:28:51.413-07:00It's not 'goofy stuff' - this is the w...It's not 'goofy stuff' - this is the way *most* educated white American men spoke and thought prior to the 1960s.<br /> Just listen to some of Richard Nixon's choice comments on the Watergate tapes for instance.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-80307618221282386932012-10-05T22:47:43.548-07:002012-10-05T22:47:43.548-07:00"Anonymous" said genetic engineering is ..."Anonymous" said genetic engineering is too hard and too remote to be considered:<br /><br />Sure, it's hard. This isn't a project that will be slam dunked in a few years.<br /><br />It will probably take several decades to identify the right combination of genetic factors that cause intelligence, future time preference, empathy, and other desirable behaviors and work them into (optional) mass market therapies.<br /><br />IMO, that's worth it. I'm personally taking university classes on a biotech track and I think more people who feel the way I do should give the long term engineering route more serious thought.Clayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05193609370237229562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-24732744585995113022012-10-05T20:07:31.186-07:002012-10-05T20:07:31.186-07:00"Fortune 500 CEOs, federal judges, and Harvar..."Fortune 500 CEOs, federal judges, and Harvard Law faculty are, I suspect, relatively indistinguishable in childhood SES from readers of this blog "<br /><br />Absolutely wrong! Here is an short and specific statistic on the issue: 24% of Harvard Law School students do not borrow any money at all to attend. Tuition over 3 years is about $145,000, plus books and living expenses. <br /><br />Do you really think a quarter of isteve readers come from families that could plop down 200K on graduate school tuition? And those are the students! <br /><br />The faculty of such schools are even more likely to be from very high SES backgrounds, in part because among those who are smart and dedicated enough to become elite law professors, the ones from low-SES backgrounds will instead choose to make millions in corporate law rather than bide their time in low-paying post-docs and judicial clerkships.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-65433570397693803752012-10-05T19:58:11.371-07:002012-10-05T19:58:11.371-07:00"Busing is high on the list of reasons the wh..."Busing is high on the list of reasons the white Catholic vote shifted from Democrats to Republicans."<br /><br />Absolutely.<br /><br />"Not that the Republicans ever cared much about the matter either way."<br /><br />Actually, Republican now want to take it several steps further by (1) mandating that kids in "failing schools" be allowed to transfer anywhere within in the district (2) give out vouchers that can be used to ruin private schools, or be used to enroll and pay tuition to public school districts outside of their home.<br /><br />Republicans also are blocking efforts to treat scam for-profit colleges differantly than real colleges, with the eventual result being higher interest rates and less availability of loans and aid for student able to get into real schools.<br /><br />So there's several more reasons for realists to vote for Obama. Zognoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-32543954167520812532012-10-05T19:50:19.701-07:002012-10-05T19:50:19.701-07:00"people this crazy are quite common on the le..."people this crazy are quite common on the left, but they are not shunned and silenced."<br /><br />Of course they are shunned. 9/11 truthers are common "on the ground" but never allowed into high office or on TV. Likewise with the "AIDS is a white conspiracy" meme. The CIA imports crack meme has some partial truth to it, but is still limited to 3 or 4 marginal congressmen.<br /><br />Zognoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-8556932657858211332012-10-05T19:46:16.529-07:002012-10-05T19:46:16.529-07:00"Going to one of these schools was like a nev..."Going to one of these schools was like a never ending flash mob with daily ten on one beatings of white students, black gangs with knives and guns robbing whites"<br /><br />That was not my experience going to a middle and high school that were majority poor and black. Remember that the drop out rate is very high among blacks, so violence prone individuals usually drop out. And many blacks also took athletics serious and feared missing games because of disciplinary issues.<br /><br />Certainly the blacks posed more problems and were more likely to be bullies, but this is extreme overstatement. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com