tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post4624075177858225203..comments2024-03-27T18:24:19.683-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: Speakin' of StereotypesUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger59125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-73896629175115764472011-04-25T07:10:09.567-07:002011-04-25T07:10:09.567-07:00I miss the days when the ORangemen of Syracuse was...I miss the days when the ORangemen of Syracuse was a protestant, catholic fighting Cavelier.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-48837459627141831102011-04-23T10:49:41.125-07:002011-04-23T10:49:41.125-07:00Capt. Jack Aubrey, you rock. You are one of my fa...Capt. Jack Aubrey, you rock. You are one of my favorite posters.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-27281831031019591302011-04-22T08:26:58.463-07:002011-04-22T08:26:58.463-07:00As for the "fightin' Irish" mascot b...<i>As for the "fightin' Irish" mascot being "awesome", that's because he's really a leprechaun. You don't mess with them. They know where the gold is you see.</i><br /><br />Everyone knows where the gold's at: Mobile, Alabama.ben tillmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-89447549160810562892011-04-22T06:49:11.754-07:002011-04-22T06:49:11.754-07:00Anon:
In 1980, the Pekin, Illinois high school tea...Anon:<br />In 1980, the Pekin, Illinois high school team changed its mascot to the Dragons. Its older one was the Pekin Chinks. So there's one example, though not an especially flattering one.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-76831082458609380942011-04-22T06:03:50.357-07:002011-04-22T06:03:50.357-07:00RKU:
I'd guess a bigger reason than ideology ...RKU:<br /><br />I'd guess a bigger reason than ideology is ratings. A controversy over global warming or tax reform is boring and inaccessible to most viewers. A controversy about renaming the Redskins to some more "sensitive" name gets viewers nice and mad, and is accessible to even the leftmost tail of the bell curve. <br /><br />TV news (especially 24 HR news) needs this kind of pretend controversy every day, to fill airtime on days when nobody's flown jets into buildings or led the LAPD on a low speed chase through town on camera.none of the abovenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-89291170675496734632011-04-21T22:45:31.834-07:002011-04-21T22:45:31.834-07:00"If they are so unlikable then why does every..."If they are so unlikable then why does every other American with even as little as 1/8 Irish ancestry claim to be Irish? I think you're wrong, Anon."<br /><br />Same reason why every other white teenager tries to act like an inner-city negro.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-3241655336168366322011-04-21T19:17:29.647-07:002011-04-21T19:17:29.647-07:00"You gotta be kidding. It's one of the re..."You gotta be kidding. It's one of the reasons the Irish freak me out. Few people made themselves out to be so unlikable. The Irish brains are located in the fists than in the head."<br /><br />If they are so unlikable then why does every other American with even as little as 1/8 Irish ancestry claim to be Irish? I think you're wrong, Anon.SouthernAnonyianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-75839687081468787752011-04-21T17:23:37.135-07:002011-04-21T17:23:37.135-07:00Why are Asians not represented in any sport mascot...<i>Why are Asians not represented in any sport mascot? Why not the San Francisco Samurai?</i><br /><br />One reason might be that the Samurai were not all that admirable.<br /><br />First of all they were lousy soldiers. They fought amongst themselves for over a century before the Tokugawa shogunate but being on an island they had little opportunity to engage other nation's troops. The big exception were the two Mongol invasions - and the Samurai lost big time.<br /><br />If you want an Asian group to admire for their ferocity and skill, the Mongols are a much better choice.<br /><br />The Samurai came to their apex in the Tokugawa Shogunate. In this period however they were largely what we would call today welfare bums. The government arranged it so that they didn't have modern weapons and had extraordinary social privileges. They were hated my the oppressed peasants. Skip the Kurosawa Samurai films and catch "Red Lion". <br /><br />Three other points: Like the ancient Greeks the Samurai had a system of homosexual patronage where old men got young boys. You don't see any of this in Tom Cruise's <i>The Last Samurai</i> but it is hinted at in the Japanese film of the same name. In that film a young Samurai has his top knot shorn by Meiji troops. That was part of the Meiji westernization campaign. The young man is quite upset as well he should be. The top knot was a sign in Samurai culture that he was no longer subject to sexual submission to older Samurai. Haircuts were an important feature of Japanese modernization.<br /><br />The Samurai were not good swordsmen and the Katana was a lousy sword. Many people fall for the myths of the Samurai sword. Indeed it's a favorite feature of the <i>Mythbusters</i> TV show. The sword is made by folding the metal over and over. This however is not a Japanese only technique. The Romans had used it a thousand years before and had abandoned it for better methods. The folds' purpose is only to distribute the carbon evenly. It's just a mixing technique.<br /><br />The Katana is also made of different grades of steel forge welded together. This was always a problem for these swords. In combat they often delaminated.<br /><br />Richard Burton - the explorer not the movie star - has a book on sword fighting. In his history he shows how in the West slicing swords lost out to thrusting swords. It simple geometry and physics. You have more reach with a foil or Épée. Lighter swords can be wielded in one hand.<br /> <br />Finally the Samurai didn't duel much. They carried two swords: a long one used to cut up the enemy and a short one to use on himself. Samurai resolved disputes by Seppuku decrees from above. <br /><br />AlbertosaurusAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-45876005739160850932011-04-21T16:58:20.631-07:002011-04-21T16:58:20.631-07:00Sowell freely admits that his own group is violent...<i>Sowell freely admits that his own group is violent and stupid but he expects his fellow Blacks to grow smarter and more peaceable just as the Irish did.</i><br /><br />The Irish likely became more peaceful and more intelligent because the dumb, violent ones either ended up dead or in jail for the rest of their lives so they could not pass on their bad genes.Average Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12203996329459638052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-54829591414228688012011-04-21T16:52:46.610-07:002011-04-21T16:52:46.610-07:00I talked to a guy from Ireland and he doesn't ...<i>I talked to a guy from Ireland and he doesn't really consider American Irish to be really Irish. There's probably some truth to that. If you are of German descent,but born here, do Germans really consider you to be fully German. Sure, you have the genes, but not the culture.</i><br /><br />Genes are generally more important than culture. I think it was the Duke of Wellington who said that being born in a stable doesn't make you a horse.Average Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12203996329459638052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-52068197068723519812011-04-21T14:58:09.059-07:002011-04-21T14:58:09.059-07:00"I'm Irish. "
I talked to a guy fro..."I'm Irish. "<br /><br />I talked to a guy from Ireland and he doesn't really consider American Irish to be really Irish. There's probably some truth to that. If you are of German descent,but born here, do Germans really consider you to be fully German. Sure, you have the genes, but not the culture.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-45843251797278612402011-04-21T14:33:04.456-07:002011-04-21T14:33:04.456-07:00Who was doing IQ tests in the 19th century to dete...Who was doing IQ tests in the 19th century to determine that the Irish and Italians had IQs of 85 while the Protestants had IQs of 100? The first tests were not administered in America until 1916.Dutch Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02687679491743923216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-54072806852874531832011-04-21T13:07:43.226-07:002011-04-21T13:07:43.226-07:00HAHA! Got a kick out of that.
BTW: I think the -i...HAHA! Got a kick out of that.<br /><br />BTW: I think the -in' thing is indeed part of the Irish stereotype, since as far as I know, the Irish language does not have words with final -ng. A final unstressed -n, though, is extremely common. -in', though, is not limited to Irish.<br /><br />As for Irish pronouncing th as t+h: this is a Cork accent, since Irish does not have the Germanic "th" sound. The Dublin accent DOES have "th", because it was settled by English Pale Catholics during Elizabethan times who went native.corvinusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-6294319611847638372011-04-21T11:53:59.041-07:002011-04-21T11:53:59.041-07:00C'mon. He's Irish. He's fighting. Do I...<i>C'mon. He's Irish. He's fighting. Do I have to draw you a picture?</i><br /><br />LOL! Anon FTW.Svigorhttp://majorityrights.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-66308092225578877242011-04-21T11:48:56.288-07:002011-04-21T11:48:56.288-07:00Average Joe made an interesting observation the po...<i>Average Joe made an interesting observation the portrayal of white Gentiles in a negative light is accepted, if not actively promoted.</i><br /><br />Practically speaking, "white gentiles" is redundant. The Ashkenazi-heavy media doesn't mind slandering whites, period, because white="gentile," and Ashkenazis only consider themselves "half white" (i.e., white when it's good for them).Svigorhttp://majorityrights.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-46077768755365263532011-04-21T11:35:55.445-07:002011-04-21T11:35:55.445-07:00Another instantiation of the principle that ethnic...Another instantiation of the principle that ethnic groups are allowed to acknowledge the truth of their own stereotypes.<br /><br />-Osvaldo M.Adam Greenwoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02262823732358694125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-44547910171694746262011-04-21T10:09:32.009-07:002011-04-21T10:09:32.009-07:00I'm Irish.
Most of the stereotypes about the...I'm Irish. <br /><br />Most of the stereotypes about the Irish: drunk, violent and stupid, were quite true in the 19th century. Thomas Sowell's thesis on Black IQ is based in large part on the history of the Irish in America.<br /><br />As he rightly points out the IQs of the Irish in Boston around the time of the American Civil War was around 85. Early Italian immigrants also had IQs of around 85. Both groups were also associated with organized and unorganized crime.<br /><br />The Protestants back then had IQs about 100. So being Irish was a marker for bad behavior and led to those (probably apocryphal) "No Irish need apply" signs.<br /><br />But the Irish and the Italians immigrants were transformed in America. Nowadays they have IQs and criminal records no different from those of the founding Protestants.<br /><br />Sowell freely admits that his own group is violent and stupid but he expects his fellow Blacks to grow smarter and more peaceable just as the Irish did.<br /><br />AlbertosaurusAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-55594466952199745212011-04-21T09:19:10.753-07:002011-04-21T09:19:10.753-07:00Funny you should run this the same week Tony Bourd...Funny you should run this the same week Tony Bourdain's show went to Southie to drink with the Irish thugs!<br /><br />BrutusAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-16111354631107479732011-04-21T07:22:56.440-07:002011-04-21T07:22:56.440-07:00"I guess a refined sense of humor and the abi..."I guess a refined sense of humor and the ability to not take oneself too seriously might be positively correlated with IQ."<br /><br />"Then why do Ashkenazi Jews complain so much about anti-Semitism? If any sports team decided to use a symbol called 'The Greedy Jew' do you really think that Abe Foxman and the other ADL types would just laugh it off?"<br /><br />Because they're afraid the less intelligent gentiles might not get the joke and come after Jews. It's like witty nerdy Jewish kids got beaten up by 'big dumb polacks' who felt insulted by 'clever Jew'. <br />But if you get Jews together in a room, and they talk like this:<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=de9W06s2aCsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-20862440826040653012011-04-21T06:32:34.239-07:002011-04-21T06:32:34.239-07:00"You gotta be kidding. It's one of the re..."You gotta be kidding. It's one of the reasons the Irish freak me out. Few people made themselves out to be so unlikable. The Irish brains are located in the fists than in the head."<br /><br />Not according to early 20th century, world-class double agent Sidney Reilly, a Russian Jew who took his wife's last name, because, "Everybody hates the Jews but everybody loves the Irish." <br />Worked for him--even in England.<br /><br /> But is Anonymous-the-Hibernia-phobe, regular petty-insulter on any thread about the Irish, a relative of a British soldier killed in the troubles? Or was his heart broken by a wild Irish rose?<br />Is he an ex-resident of South Side Boston? Person of color? Or just a WASP being a WASP? <br />I didn't believe the latter was still a force to be reckoned with until I reread certain material on President Kennedy. Oh, not the childhood, historic stuff, but the men surrounding him in the political realm of mid-20th century; the higher he got the more "there" they all were. Suddenly, their names (McGeorge Bundy, fcol, you don't saddle a kid with a name like that without a serious reason), their backgrounds, their lineages, their schools, their marriages, their connections, their fraternities and "secret societies", their professional networks... Mostly WASPs or "Scotch-Irish", some German and Dutch, mostly related if only distantly. All of a sudden it clicked--this stuff was real, at least in the political and corporate world of the era. I'd thought it was a distant memory evoked only for dramatic effect. I mean, who cared any more about Catholic/Protestant, Irish/Anglo-Saxon, blah blah, with so many more starkly black and white differences to preoccupy us all, excuse the pun. But apparently it did matter. 5th cousinship is thicker than none.<br /><br />As for the "fightin' Irish" mascot being "awesome", that's because he's really a leprechaun. You don't mess with them. They know where the gold is you see.green eyesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-63946667036564618312011-04-21T05:15:36.294-07:002011-04-21T05:15:36.294-07:00Average Joe:
Well, there's these guys:
http://...Average Joe:<br />Well, there's these guys:<br />http://www.rnw.nl/english/article/ajax-a-jewish-club-spite-itselfIHTGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13543091238926738309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-53044820926465956602011-04-21T03:13:19.760-07:002011-04-21T03:13:19.760-07:00"San Francisco Fruits. Green Bay Transsexuals..."San Francisco Fruits. Green Bay Transsexuals.<br />Los Angeles Fairies. The mascot should be a riot."<br /><br />Oh, there are better stereotypes for a football team. The San Francisco Leathermen's colors will be black and blue (this is the actual color of the S/M Pride Flag--I am not making this up), will have male cheerleaders in assless chaps and leather jackets carrying whips, and can go with cheers like<br /><br />"One! Two! Three! Four!<br />Whip 'em till they hit the floor!<br />Five! Six! Seven! Eight!<br />We can kill the fucking straights!"<br /><br />What do you think?SFGnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-49904077576894401322011-04-21T02:13:19.113-07:002011-04-21T02:13:19.113-07:00"Where does it show or say that the mascot fe...<i>"Where does it show or say that the mascot fellow is drunk?"</i><br /><br />C'mon. He's Irish. He's fighting. Do I have to draw you a picture?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-32360032309837323782011-04-21T02:12:50.892-07:002011-04-21T02:12:50.892-07:00I guess a refined sense of humor and the ability t...<i>I guess a refined sense of humor and the ability to not take oneself too seriously might be positively correlated with IQ.</i><br /><br />Then why do Ashkenazi Jews complain so much about anti-Semitism? If any sports team decided to use a symbol called "The Greedy Jew" do you really think that Abe Foxman and the other ADL types would just laugh it off?Average Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12203996329459638052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-46141887966276435032011-04-20T22:37:46.410-07:002011-04-20T22:37:46.410-07:00The ugliest stereotypes, like liberals being close...The ugliest stereotypes, like liberals being closet esclavagists or Muslims odious racists , are peddled in this <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/24/magazine/mag-24Obama-t.html?_r=1&hp=&pagewanted=all" rel="nofollow"> piece </a> about a famous <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2011/04/24/magazine/24Cover.html" rel="nofollow">pirate's mother.</a>Batamnoreply@blogger.com