tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post4640764653066415704..comments2024-03-27T18:24:19.683-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: Australia's Camp of the SaintsUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger82125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-44792460994422099822013-11-20T12:38:55.678-08:002013-11-20T12:38:55.678-08:00To Matthew said:
And to Canada too. White countri...To Matthew said:<br /><br />And to Canada too. White countries are sucker nations. And the Tamil con artists know it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-37595164307817220442013-11-19T12:54:20.855-08:002013-11-19T12:54:20.855-08:00Anonymous said..."Yeah, but the most likely v...Anonymous said..."Yeah, but the most likely victim of an Iranian nuke would be Israel. Though Steve has many funny, insightful and erudite readers (whose comments are a big part of what makes this a great site) he also attracts people who have a problem with Jews."<br /><br />Don't be so thick. You meant "people who have a problem with Jews having a problem with gentiles". <br /><br />People don't have "a problem with Jews" per se. They (we) have a problem with Jewish aggression. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-50322430921166785292013-11-18T15:03:40.227-08:002013-11-18T15:03:40.227-08:00"America does pressure international bodies a..."America does pressure international bodies and other countries to place sanctions on Iran.<br /><br />The point is that it's not simply a matter of the US not trading with Iran." - The international pressure in question being trade.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-36086091689629089602013-11-18T14:49:53.692-08:002013-11-18T14:49:53.692-08:00Forget the Iranians. Look at Sri Lankan Tamils. Th...Forget the Iranians. Look at Sri Lankan Tamils. Their country is less than 100 miles from the coast of the Indian state of Tamil Nadu, home to 72 million people, the vast majority of them ethnic Tamils. The same language, religion, and culture.<br /><br />So, fleeing oppression real or alleged, thousands of Sri Lankan Tamils hop on boats and head...thousands of miles east, to Australia.Matthewnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-15821643435405493222013-11-17T17:26:06.400-08:002013-11-17T17:26:06.400-08:00You didn't understand my analogy, as your subs...You didn't understand my analogy, as your subsequent comments have demonstrated. <br /><br />Dave Pinsenhttp://twitter.com/dpinsennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-3113698430542091322013-11-17T15:42:21.275-08:002013-11-17T15:42:21.275-08:00America doesn't hold a gun to their head. If t...<i>America doesn't hold a gun to their head. If they'd rather trade with Iran than America that is their business.</i><br /><br />America does pressure international bodies and other countries to place sanctions on Iran. <br /><br />The point is that it's not simply a matter of the US not trading with Iran.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-64884145723808413552013-11-17T10:49:23.674-08:002013-11-17T10:49:23.674-08:00"And what do you mean "we"? The US ..."And what do you mean "we"? The US pressures international bodies and other countries to place sanctions on Iran. It's not simply a matter of the US not trading with Iran." - America doesn't hold a gun to their head. If they'd rather trade with Iran than America that is their business.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-58333743063081104992013-11-17T08:09:15.215-08:002013-11-17T08:09:15.215-08:00Analogies also correlate highest with IQ among fre...<i>Analogies also correlate highest with IQ among frequently tested question types.</i><br /><br />Just because high IQ people can _identify_ analogies has nothing to do with the relevance of an analogy to truth. Spotting BS analogies might be a useful result of intelligence.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-42539755555396755612013-11-17T02:44:00.098-08:002013-11-17T02:44:00.098-08:00(Note correct usage of the word "homophobe&qu...<i>(Note correct usage of the word "homophobe")</i><br /><br />Yep...<br /><br />btw, We have nothing to hate but hate itself. If human equality is to be forever averted... we gotta go after those sports teams with Indian type names tooAlcalde Jaime Miguel Curleohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11801154986193443160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-19246217687962069212013-11-17T00:45:53.498-08:002013-11-17T00:45:53.498-08:00I did understand your comment. You didn't unde...I did understand your comment. You didn't understand the original analogy, as your comment showed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-25307855245880115792013-11-17T00:40:44.630-08:002013-11-17T00:40:44.630-08:00You didn't understand my comment.You didn't understand my comment. Dave Pinsenhttp://twitter.com/dpinsennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-85438386427133512352013-11-17T00:17:07.756-08:002013-11-17T00:17:07.756-08:00But likely we do and furthermore we likely underst...<i>But likely we do and furthermore we likely understand you. You're trying to play the race card. You're making an argument for trying to un-Americanize America. If Scandinavian immigrants once were good, surely immigrants from Iran, Somali, and every other place in the world are now also good, only an ebil raciss could think the contrary.</i><br /><br />I didn't make the original comment. I came in afterwards to point out that you and others didn't understand the analogy. <br /><br />I'm not playing the race card, and I'm not saying Scandinavian immigrants once were good, or that immigrants from Iran and elsewhere today are good. I'm not against racism.<br /><br />I'm pointing out that you didn't understand the analogy. You're not even interested in the analogy itself, you're simply interested in its political use, just like pro-immigrationists. Neither you nor race card playing pro-immigrationists are interested in the analogy. You are interested in politics.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-83061801509986029142013-11-17T00:14:54.152-08:002013-11-17T00:14:54.152-08:00I understood it and pointed out why it was weak in...<i>I understood it and pointed out why it was weak in my previous comment. </i><br /><br />You didn't understand the analogy. What you did in your previous comment is pose a different comparison.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-57141991263698951852013-11-16T20:55:23.252-08:002013-11-16T20:55:23.252-08:00You didn't understand the analogy.
But likely...<i>You didn't understand the analogy.</i><br /><br />But likely we do and furthermore we likely understand you. You're trying to play the race card. You're making an argument for trying to un-Americanize America. If Scandinavian immigrants once were good, surely immigrants from Iran, Somali, and every other place in the world are now also good, only an ebil raciss could think the contrary.<br /><br />It's a silly race-card yap that allows for no difference in circumstances from populating an underpopulated continent in the past and immigration into the modern US now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-23461862144326758672013-11-16T20:42:49.812-08:002013-11-16T20:42:49.812-08:00I understood it and pointed out why it was weak in...I understood it and pointed out why it was weak in my previous comment. Dave Pinsenhttp://twitter.com/dpinsennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-80088670091271864182013-11-16T20:39:13.116-08:002013-11-16T20:39:13.116-08:00Two, we are under no obligation to trade with any ...<i> Two, we are under no obligation to trade with any nation, much less one that wishes for our destruction.</i><br /><br />Sanctions are different from merely refusing to trade with a nation.<br /><br />And what do you mean "we"? The US pressures international bodies and other countries to place sanctions on Iran. It's not simply a matter of the US not trading with Iran.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-21006037065133539892013-11-16T20:20:02.987-08:002013-11-16T20:20:02.987-08:00"They'll have to outgrow their mullah-run..."They'll have to outgrow their mullah-run government on their own, but the "international community" can end the sanctions now." - One, the primary driver of their problems is demographic and nothing else. Their population has shot into the stratosphere,along with the rest of the 3rd world over the course of the green revolution. Two, we are under no obligation to trade with any nation, much less one that wishes for our destruction.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-54740737109049993282013-11-16T20:14:58.123-08:002013-11-16T20:14:58.123-08:00"Why Jews flee to Europe (or at least half of..."Why Jews flee to Europe (or at least half of it)"<br /><br />http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-debate/why-jews-flee-to-europe-or-at-least-half-of-it/article15446274/<br /><br />"Have you heard about Europe’s Jewish exodus? Amid growing tensions and tough economic conditions, tens of thousands of educated middle-class Jews are fleeing every year – not out of the continent, but rather from Israel into Europe, and especially to Germany, which has become the chief destination (after the United States) for the half-million Israelis who have left the country amid its much-discussed “brain drain.”"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-82832981419774151202013-11-16T20:13:48.232-08:002013-11-16T20:13:48.232-08:00The difference is that pretty much no densely popu...<i>The difference is that pretty much no densely populated country was nice for young, non-wealthy people back then.</i><br /><br />You didn't understand the analogy.<br /><br />That's not the difference, since back then you still had groups immigrating en masse to the US.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-15065624903333943652013-11-16T20:09:35.228-08:002013-11-16T20:09:35.228-08:00I didn't follow the thread, but analogies are ...<i>I didn't follow the thread, but analogies are the weakest form of argument (see, for instance, course notes for AP English, will it be on the test?):</i><br /><br />Analogies also correlate highest with IQ among frequently tested question types. <br /><br />I wasn't making an argument. I was simply pointing out that you didn't understand the analogy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-55486198988239829262013-11-16T17:37:17.452-08:002013-11-16T17:37:17.452-08:00I get 11689mi for pitcairn.I get 11689mi for pitcairn.Foreign Expertnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-22018662765909032442013-11-16T17:28:16.251-08:002013-11-16T17:28:16.251-08:00"That's not the difference, since when th...<i>"That's not the difference, since when those groups were immigrating en masse to the US in the past, those places weren't that nice for them.<br /><br />Don't you understand how analogies work?"</i><br /><br />The difference is that pretty much no densely populated country was nice for young, non-wealthy people back then. There was no welfare state, and if you couldn't afford land for a farm, it was hard to support yourself and raise a family. Which is why many Germans, for example, moved to the US and the Southern states of Brazil. But today, that's no longer true. Those European countries have high qualities of life despite being densely populated. Iran doesn't. <br /><br />The difference isn't population density anymore, but that first world, European or European-colonized countries offer qualities of life that Islamic countries can't match. Dave Pinsenhttp://twitter.com/dpinsennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-88884600040704639362013-11-16T15:55:42.486-08:002013-11-16T15:55:42.486-08:00"Don't you understand how analogies work?...<i>"Don't you understand how analogies work?"</i> <br /><br />I didn't follow the thread, but analogies are the weakest form of argument (see, for instance, course notes for AP English, will it be on the test?):<br /><br /><a href="http://www.course-notes.org/English/Outlines/Chapter_13_Argument_Convincing_Others" rel="nofollow"><br />"Analogy is the weakest form of rational appeal. Analogies never prove anything."</a><br /><br /><br />Even if Iranians actually were Scandinavians, that doesn't mean the US needs more immigration now. Perhaps the US already has more people than it should. If your analogy was taken as an argument, where would it end? When everyone in the world lived in the US?<br /><br />Perhaps you are a bad person for thinking that Iranians need to be around Americans or Australians to be well off. Perhaps Iran desperately needs Iranians and you are conspiring to destroy them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-52570459263601926422013-11-16T15:02:31.865-08:002013-11-16T15:02:31.865-08:00"Is there a legitimate reason to worry about ..."Is there a legitimate reason to worry about nuclear proliferation? If so, then the sanctions are justified. I remember growing up (in the 80s) with prominent people saying that we should be afraid of nuclear war. Isn't it more likely that as more nations get these weapons, a war like this is more likely?"<br /><br />"More likely"? Don't be silly. It is a virtual certainty that there will be a nuclear war. <br /><br />As I remember, the Pope banned crossbows because they were so brutal. <br /><br />Didn't work, did it?<br /><br />The real thing to worry about is new targeted recombinant DNA technology that will peacefully (and secretly) sterilize entire populations. No fuss, no muss, no suffering, just ... no more kids.Big Billnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-73299544494984953432013-11-16T14:01:28.851-08:002013-11-16T14:01:28.851-08:00Anonymous at 4:49 said: "I'm guessing tha...Anonymous at 4:49 said: <i>"I'm guessing that these were Iranian Jews who were forced to become Israelis (or Americans) after Khomeini came to power."</i><br /><br />No, they weren't. They were all Israelis well before 1979. <br /><br />Not all of them were born in Israel of course, though a lot were. (One of them cited was a German who said that the Shah's downfall reminded him of Kristallnacht - which he was old enough to have witnessed himself - and urged his family to get the hell out of Tehran.) <br /><br />Many couldn't speak Farsi. All spoke fluent Hebrew.Robertnoreply@blogger.com