tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post4712552513766779329..comments2024-03-27T18:24:19.683-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: The wind is at the back of Open BordersUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger105125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-87849101883248181712014-02-19T09:30:07.197-08:002014-02-19T09:30:07.197-08:00The stupid anti-semites who post here keep confoun...<i>The stupid anti-semites who post here keep confounding rank-and-file Jews with Leon Wieseltier</i> <br /><br /><br />You might as well have written that "The stupid racists who post here keep confounding rank-and-file blacks with Barack Obama and don't know about Clarence Thomas and Thomas Sowell".<br /><br />It's true that not all American Jews are open-borders-loving anti-white leftists but an awful lot of them, I'd say more than half of them, certainly are. (Even though I personally know some Jews who lean the opposite way) And if you're Jewish yourself you know the truth of that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-52580334810193940672014-02-18T20:17:49.153-08:002014-02-18T20:17:49.153-08:00Mr.Anon astutely noted "WWII was the most imp...Mr.Anon astutely noted "WWII was the most important event in history, and we must constantly be reminded of it." <br /><br />riches:"To be precise: That European Theater was awesome but that Pacific stuff, not so much!"<br /><br />Steven Spielberg's father and uncle (veterans of the Pacific Theatre in WW2)disliked the lack of attention given to the Pacific Theatre:<br /><br />Steven Spielberg:" When Tom Hanks and I first decided to adapt Stephen Ambrose's Band of Brothers into a miniseries, I remember thinking at the time that it would also be great to pay tribute to the veterans of the Pacific theatre of operations. My father and my uncle, who both fought in the Pacific, had the same idea, and after Saving Private Ryan came out and Band of Brothers played on HBO, they asked, What about the boys on the other side of the Atlantic? You're celebrating all those guys from Europe! We did something too! We also got many letters from veterans congratulating us on those projects, but asking for recognition for their efforts, too. Veterans from Peleliu, Pavuvu, Guadalcanal, Tarawa, Iwo Jima, the Solomons, Wake Island, Midway. " (http://tvnz.co.nz/the-pacific/interview-steven-spielberg-3403539)<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-15034928859283076342014-02-18T19:16:44.617-08:002014-02-18T19:16:44.617-08:00I must have missed that part of the Bible about al...<i>I must have missed that part of the Bible about allowing your country to be invaded by anybody who wants to do so. I guess atheist Caplan can tell us where he found that.</i><br /><br />It worked well for the Caannanites.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-65427807144087070622014-02-18T15:40:54.882-08:002014-02-18T15:40:54.882-08:00Mr.Anon astutely noted "WWII was the most imp...Mr.Anon astutely noted "WWII was the most important event in history, and we must constantly be reminded of it." <br /><br />To be precise: That <i>European Theater</i> was awesome but that Pacific stuff, not so much!richesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-61740122313249851392014-02-18T07:07:58.614-08:002014-02-18T07:07:58.614-08:00If the great captains of industry in America canno...If the great captains of industry in America cannot continue to make a go of it without the help of foreign workers, let them move their businesses to the foreign land of their choice, where they can hire whomever they please.<br /><br />What great loss, for example, would it be to Americans if Zuckerberg operated Facebook out of, say, India, or the Phillipines? He could even do<br />so on the sly, and what user of his service,<br />solely from their experience of it, would realize what he'd done? <br /><br />And for customer service over the phone intelligible to his American users, he could outsource a call center back here.<br /><br />Good riddance to bad rubbish.<br /><br /><br /><br />Jonathan Silbernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-91724608380259391122014-02-17T23:42:00.710-08:002014-02-17T23:42:00.710-08:00Art Deco said...
"The stupid anti-semites wh...<br /><br />Art Deco said...<br /><br />"The stupid anti-semites who post here keep confounding rank-and-file Jews with Leon Wieseltier (who actually is an obnoxiously ethno-centric man whose viewpoint is about as you describe) and with tiresome and insulated bourgeois like Bryan Caplan (who does not appear to understand ordinary human affinity, in part because he either experiences none or experiences it only with people of his class and subculture). There's no point to that, and it's malicious."<br /><br />So you're saying most American Jews don't support Israel and have no problem with the U.S. remaining a white Christian nation?<br /><br />OK.....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-12360547800535932392014-02-17T19:27:01.223-08:002014-02-17T19:27:01.223-08:00"Anonymous said...
Mr Anon: ""Yes,..."Anonymous said...<br /><br />Mr Anon: ""Yes, but to whom does that standard SWPL stuff ultimately end up being a disservice?""<br /><br />The proles."<br /><br />My point - not a lot of Chabons and Waldmanns among the proletariat.Mr. Anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-70788285064010276492014-02-17T19:11:28.561-08:002014-02-17T19:11:28.561-08:0024Ahead
You're a good man.24Ahead<br /><br />You're a good man.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-63544501201827670952014-02-17T18:42:00.944-08:002014-02-17T18:42:00.944-08:00Even if Caplan or Tabarrok see the comments here, ...Even if Caplan or Tabarrok see the comments here, are they going to be concerned? Are any of their readers going to find the comments here and change their minds?<br /><br />In order to have an impact, people have to take the argument to them and undercut them to their readers.<br /><br />For a tangible example, a Bloomberg author recently quoted Caplan. I then started <a href="http://24ahead.com/c/148" rel="nofollow">this conversation</a> with him. He hasn't and probably won't respond. But, once every day or three I'll look up who he chats with on Twitter, and send them that link. If a few dozen people did things like that on a regular basis, people like him would at least think twice before hyping Caplan.24AheadDotComhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04840701734063972630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-39316958703386086542014-02-17T18:31:18.200-08:002014-02-17T18:31:18.200-08:00Mr Anon:"Yes, but to whom does that standard ...Mr Anon:"Yes, but to whom does that standard SWPL stuff ultimately end up being a disservice?"<br /><br />The proles.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-9051263097259090672014-02-17T18:19:45.617-08:002014-02-17T18:19:45.617-08:00"Anonymous said...
Standard SWPL stuff."..."Anonymous said...<br /><br />Standard SWPL stuff."<br /><br />Yes, but to whom does that standard SWPL stuff ultimately end up being a disservice?Mr. Anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-88873962627256157102014-02-17T16:16:10.523-08:002014-02-17T16:16:10.523-08:00George Will's unrealistic new opinion piece: &...<i>George Will's unrealistic new opinion piece: "Why immigration reform matters".</i> <br /><br /><br />I have more respect for limousine libertarians like Caplan who argue that we need to open the borders for the good of poor people outside America then I do for the inane babbling of Will, who still clings to the deranged fantasy that if we only are optimistic enough, somehow we can have open borders and a rising standard of living.<br /><br />Caplan and crew are at least honest enough to admit that open borders will make Americans worse off ... they just see that as a worthwhile trade-off.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-70146960445954196062014-02-17T15:14:46.192-08:002014-02-17T15:14:46.192-08:00"When American Jews got incensed about the (l..."When American Jews got incensed about the (largely imaginary) ethnic cleansing in Kosovo, humanitarian bombing promptly ensued."<br /><br />Rank-and-file Israeli Jews thought that America was insane to intervene on behalf of Moslems against Christians. As Netanyahu's Foreign Minister, Ariel Sharon vocally supported Milosevic.<br />http://balkanwitness.glypx.com/Fisk.htm<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-53647543745604770962014-02-17T14:53:41.316-08:002014-02-17T14:53:41.316-08:00Mr anon:"Yeah......strange. What's good f...Mr anon:"Yeah......strange. What's good for the goose is not good for the, goyim, or something."<br /><br />Standard SWPL stuff. Upper-middle class White Gentile liberals follow the same line, advocating libertine standards while leading highly conservative lifestyles (E.g., most of the White Gentile married couples that I know have 1950s style marriages, with stay at home Moms; working mothers are very prole).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-27387482790123838702014-02-17T14:48:38.868-08:002014-02-17T14:48:38.868-08:00Anonymous:"George Will's unrealistic new ...Anonymous:"George Will's unrealistic new opinion piece: "Why immigration reform matters".<br /><br />H/T: RealClearPolitics<br /><br />-meh"<br /><br />The key thing to bear in mind when reading Will is that he began as a libertarian back in his college days, which means that he is a fool.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-8030624374273464912014-02-17T12:56:15.549-08:002014-02-17T12:56:15.549-08:00It's quite curious to see supposed rights repe...<i>It's quite curious to see supposed rights repeat the old 1968 leftie arguments about 'true communism.'</i> <br /><br /><br />What makes you think that everyone who comments here is a "supposed rightie"? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-82853399038313844352014-02-17T11:49:24.182-08:002014-02-17T11:49:24.182-08:001-people have a moral right to education, health c...<i>1-people have a moral right to education, health care, food and shelter, no matter where they come from.<br /><br />2-People have a moral right to go anywhere they please, and once there get moral right No 1.<br /><br />3-So if 50 million Nigerians want to come to the USA, we can't stop them, morally.</i><br /><br />I feel that the "moral" arguments for Open Borders are just a defense of entropy. It's not moral for one group of people to live better than another group of people because of the "accident of their birth," so we have to open up all the borders so that we and 50 million Nigerians can enjoy the same horrible standard of living. It's only fair.<br /><br /><i> Americans in particular want to have their cake and eat it, too. They certainly don't want their country "invaded" by Latin American immigration. But when a citizenist articulately justifies their anxiety, the typical American feels like the citizenist is too racist to acknowledge, much less endorse.</i> - from Caplan's post<br /><br />It's probably been said on here before, but convincing larger swaths of the population that it's ok to Notice things will go a long way towards increasing popular support for Citizenist policies. Florida seems to be going in that direction.LLnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-78697536611850441112014-02-17T09:48:37.313-08:002014-02-17T09:48:37.313-08:00Israel is Rand's blind spot.
It's a huge...Israel is Rand's blind spot. <br /><br />It's a huge blind spot for the left and the right of the Multicult. Dannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-81491660680887799822014-02-17T09:43:10.037-08:002014-02-17T09:43:10.037-08:00"The Dude said...
The Caplans and Waldmans t..."The Dude said...<br /><br />The Caplans and Waldmans trot out this revolutionary stuff for the masses but avoid the mental infection themselves in their own lives. Strange phenomenon."<br /><br />Yeah......strange. What's good for the goose is not good for the, goyim, or something. By the way, This "literary" power couple were last seen working with HBO to develop a TV show:<br /><br />"Writers Michael Chabon and Ayelet Waldman, who are married and have four children, are at work on their first authorial collaboration: a project for HBO. It's in the very early stages of development, Variety reports, and will be called, tentatively, "Hobgoblin." Variety describes it as "an offbeat drama project ... that revolves around a motley group of conmen and magicians who use their skills at deception to battle Hitler and his forces during WW II." Which sounds sort of like "Inglorious Basterds" with less gore and more magic."<br /><br />Because we can never,.....never......never!........have enough new (and entirely fictional) accounts of how we (that is to say, someone, not necessarily "we") beat those evil Germans. WWII was the most important event in history, and we must constantly be reminded of it, and especially how it affected one particular group of people.<br /><br />The ethnic triumphalism and cultural cuckoldry practiced by members of one particular tribe is becoming quite remarkably brazen and shameless.Mr. Anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-69746042271448478902014-02-17T09:38:49.553-08:002014-02-17T09:38:49.553-08:00I'm continually amazed at the apparent unaware...<br /><i>I'm continually amazed at the apparent unawareness of readers of this blog, and even of Steve himself, of the hostility of most American Jews - very few of whom are "neocons" - to the current Israeli government.</i><br /><br />When American Jews got incensed about the (largely imaginary) ethnic cleansing in Kosovo, humanitarian bombing promptly ensued. When will humanitarian bombing of Israel ensue?Billnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-52105457126826562642014-02-17T07:21:43.035-08:002014-02-17T07:21:43.035-08:00Lib Dorks on Lena Dunham.
http://tsutpen.blogspot...Lib Dorks on Lena Dunham.<br /><br />http://tsutpen.blogspot.com/2014/02/illusion-travels-by-streetcar-2.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-19567738616840613742014-02-17T07:10:07.671-08:002014-02-17T07:10:07.671-08:00George Will's unrealistic new opinion piece: &...George Will's unrealistic new opinion piece: <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/george-will-why-immigration-reform-matters/2014/02/13/04e7dfac-94db-11e3-84e1-27626c5ef5fb_story.html" rel="nofollow">"Why immigration reform matters"</a>.<br /><br />H/T: <a href="http://www.realclearpolitics.com/2014/02/17/" rel="nofollow">RealClearPolitics</a><br /><br />-mehAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-92210568069377661662014-02-17T04:55:48.434-08:002014-02-17T04:55:48.434-08:00Anonydroid at 11:38 PM said: The idea that commun...Anonydroid at 11:38 PM said: The idea that communist expansionism in Asia had anything to do with buffer zones is bizarre. Was America going to invade the depths of Siberia? Was China? <br /><br />Hunsdon said: It's a bizarre old world we live in. I hate to unearth hoary old tropes, but the Russians have a long memory of the Tatar yoke.Hunsdonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-88108522654799989422014-02-16T23:44:03.362-08:002014-02-16T23:44:03.362-08:00"I don't think I've ever heard anyone..."I don't think I've ever heard anyone in the media (even the conservative media) make this point."<br /><br />Now that they won WWG, they can feel free to make this point.<br /> <br />http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2013/06/the-gay-guide-to-wedded-bliss/309317/?single_page=true<br /><br />"The question of whether gays and lesbians will change marriage, or vice versa, is at its thorniest around sex and monogamy. Private behavior could well stay private: when she studied marriage in the Netherlands, Lee Badgett, the University of Massachusetts economist, found that while many same-sex couples proselytize about the egalitarianism of their relationships, they don’t tend to promote non-monogamy, even if they practice it. Then again, some gay-rights advocates, like the writer and sex columnist Dan Savage, argue very publicly that insisting on monogamy can do a couple more harm than good. Savage, who questions whether most humans are cut out for decades of sex with only one person, told me that “monogamy in marriage has been a disaster for straight couples” because it has set unrealistic expectations. “Gay-male couples are much more likely to be realistic about what men are,” he said. Savage’s own marriage started out monogamous; the agreement was that if either partner cheated, this would be grounds for ending the relationship. But when he and his husband decided to adopt a child, Savage suggested that they relax their zero-tolerance policy on infidelity. He felt that risking family dissolution over such an incident no longer made sense. His husband later suggested they explicitly allow each other occasional dalliances, a policy Savage sees as providing a safety valve for the relationship. If society wants marriage to be more resilient, he argues, we must make it more “monagamish.”"<br /><br /><br />What a world we live in.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-43753576265496362322014-02-16T23:38:23.117-08:002014-02-16T23:38:23.117-08:00"Hunsdon said: Actually, I didn't. Even i..."Hunsdon said: Actually, I didn't. Even if we posit your examples, I would argue that they were more a matter of taking what was given and trying to secure buffer zones, vice promoting true worldwide socialism.<br /><br />Besides, the earliest of the events you cite took place twenty years after the debate I'm talking about."<br /><br />Stalin's socialism in one country policy was a matter of pragmatism, not ideology. Once it became pragmatic to abandon it, he did. <br /><br />The idea that communist expansionism in Asia had anything to do with buffer zones is bizarre. Was America going to invade the depths of Siberia? Was China? <br /><br />"By the time the Soviet Union took over Eastern Europe, it was Communist in name only."<br /><br />Entirely ahistorical. The state owned all the means of production under Stalin. That remained the case until Gorbachev. Income inequality was very low, even under the Brezhnev stagnation years. It's quite curious to see supposed rights repeat the old 1968 leftie arguments about 'true communism.'Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com