tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post503569923140755715..comments2024-03-27T18:24:19.683-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: "Track and Battlefield:" Sailer and Seiler on Women in Combat from 1997Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger47125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-45936637920292077352013-01-27T14:01:41.219-08:002013-01-27T14:01:41.219-08:00"I don't think so. The Russians used wome..."I don't think so. The Russians used women combat units in WW2; they weren't so ineffective as not to be worth using - and they were fighting the Wehrmacht and SS. Who do the US army fight? Arabs, Afghans..."<br /><br />The Afghans broke the Russian army, and it looks like they may do the same to us.Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-36196187602966212013-01-26T23:18:31.319-08:002013-01-26T23:18:31.319-08:00I seem to recall that the Canadian womens basketba...I seem to recall that the Canadian womens basketball team trained against grade 10 boys. Not varsity, just a pick up group. They could almost keep up with the boys at first but within 6 months not so much.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-11552700984679292382013-01-26T19:12:04.834-08:002013-01-26T19:12:04.834-08:00I still hold out hope that this country like Israe...I still hold out hope that this country like Israel will realize this policy will be unworkable in practice. Israel discovered in the War of Independence that males will jeopardize the mission to protect the females in their unit, it's human nature. If this happens for real in Afghanistan or Libya, maybe the PTB will give up this ludicrous notion. Any woman who could meet advanced infantry training levels is probably by female standards an elite athlete, so why would she want to be a grunt anyway when she could be in the Olympics or playing pro sports?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-85447198706970392072013-01-26T19:04:35.788-08:002013-01-26T19:04:35.788-08:00Maybe there's some propaganda value in convinc...Maybe there's some propaganda value in convincing Arabs that even our girls can stomp you?robnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-79882504545374026422013-01-26T15:21:24.361-08:002013-01-26T15:21:24.361-08:00Part of the proof that Women were getting faster w...Part of the proof that Women were getting faster was Benita Fitzgerald's 12.84 in the 100 metres hurdles was given as being faster than Roger Kingdom's 13.20 in the 110 metres hurdles.<br /><br />Once upon a time sports journalists understood what distances were. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-18221621404448226802013-01-26T14:51:30.680-08:002013-01-26T14:51:30.680-08:00"Simon in London said...
I tend to suspect th..."Simon in London said...<br />I tend to suspect that a well-motivated combat team of American all-female infantry would be superior to the men of most nations"<br /><br />Anon:<br />"Fantasy"<br /><br />I don't think so. The Russians used women combat units in WW2; they weren't so ineffective as not to be worth using - and they were fighting the Wehrmacht and SS. Who do the US army fight? Arabs, Afghans, probably Africans soon - not exactly the best led, trained, motivated or equipped of warriors. Thirty American women could probably handle thirty of them, with air support and the other advantages the US enjoys - just as ten American men can and do handle thirty of them.<br /><br />I'm not saying that American female soldiers could handle the Russians or Chinese or another serious enemy; I'm saying the US is not likely to be fighting another serious enemy, and so could likely muddle through. Simon in Londonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-88435634693667953672013-01-26T08:23:20.152-08:002013-01-26T08:23:20.152-08:00"Then after a while when few or no females ha...<i>"Then after a while when few or no females have graduated from the Infantry School at Ft. Benning, the entire cadre from the school's commander to the drill sergeants will be asked why the women are not graduating."</i><br /><br /><br /><br />Bit like the administration's desire in The Right Stuff for A Black Astronaut.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-50399334607308890042013-01-26T08:18:56.906-08:002013-01-26T08:18:56.906-08:00"Margaret Thatcher, for example, revelled in ...<i>"Margaret Thatcher, for example, revelled in death,bloodshed and inflicting unspeakable cruelty onto the defnceless, in the same way as Elizabeth Bathory did."</i><br /><br /><br /><br />Is that a joke? If so it ain't funny. Mrs T had many negative features, but revelling in "D,B,aIUC" weren't among them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-39466402967422438142013-01-26T06:33:31.773-08:002013-01-26T06:33:31.773-08:00Well I see that Danica Patrick is sleeping with th...Well I see that Danica Patrick is sleeping with the kid who won the minor-league NASCAR series for 2 straight years. Maybe she's hoping talent is transferable in bodily fluids.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-24707412449113922192013-01-25T22:03:03.730-08:002013-01-25T22:03:03.730-08:00Amazing! They used to publish this in freaking Nat...Amazing! They used to publish this in freaking National Review. Now I'm depressed and need a scotch...Contemplationisthttp://contemplationist.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-39462914833052169802013-01-25T17:56:30.146-08:002013-01-25T17:56:30.146-08:00What's interesting is the dismal performance o...<i><br />What's interesting is the dismal performance of female race drivers. Theoretically, in modern open wheel race cars, women should be at no disadvantage,</i><br /><br /><br />Also, theoretically women should be at no disadvantage at chess. <br /><br />But alas, they play in the women's division.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-43105196710579564412013-01-25T17:53:29.443-08:002013-01-25T17:53:29.443-08:00More evidence that we have no democracy.
Exactly ...More evidence that we have no democracy.<br /><br />Exactly who voted for this kind of crap?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-65199986478978177202013-01-25T17:52:07.318-08:002013-01-25T17:52:07.318-08:00"Simon in London said...
I tend to suspect th...<i>"Simon in London said...<br />I tend to suspect that a well-motivated combat team of American all-female infantry would be superior to the men of most nations"</i><br /><br /><br />Fantasy<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-50612235925778702892013-01-25T16:07:50.315-08:002013-01-25T16:07:50.315-08:00"By lifting the ban on women in combat the Ob..."By lifting the ban on women in combat the Obama Administration will invoke instinctual desires to protect women. This will reduce popular support for foolish war ideas put forth by the neocons."--great logic, kind of like the way we saved the environment by blocking that pipeline. That was awesomeAlcalde Jaime Miguel Curleohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11801154986193443160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-19768166215858617762013-01-25T14:38:01.337-08:002013-01-25T14:38:01.337-08:00Mark Caplan said: the whole point of going to war ...<i>Mark Caplan said: the whole point of going to war was to protect your women, children and land.</i><br /><br />Now we try and protect some other peoples in various disorderly capricious ways while are own are laid waste by a variety of enemies, foreign and domestic.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-14847428070232655692013-01-25T13:37:35.713-08:002013-01-25T13:37:35.713-08:00Cary's analogue nails it perfectly. Too, Jimmy...Cary's analogue nails it perfectly. Too, Jimmy Connors toyed with Navratilove in an exhibition and Chris Evert's kid brother would beat her in singles all the time.<br /><br />When I was in the Marine Corps some 60 years ago, we had female Marines we called BAMS; they never fired a round in anger and did admin work which is where military women belong.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-14363617525850886012013-01-25T12:56:47.257-08:002013-01-25T12:56:47.257-08:00I tend to suspect that a well-motivated combat tea...I tend to suspect that a well-motivated combat team of American all-female infantry would be superior to the men of most nations; and with the usual superior US support and technology they would not often be defeated, captured, raped etc. So the gender gap in physical ability & aggression would not be as decisive as the article suggests. On the other hand, they would still take more casualties than the equivalent all-male combat team would.Simon in Londonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-32904365542776989582013-01-25T11:15:58.378-08:002013-01-25T11:15:58.378-08:00Consider this:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/12216858...Consider this:<br /><br />http://www.scribd.com/doc/122168587/Rifle-Platoon-Basic-Load-OEF-XII<br /><br />Avg. paratrooper weight: 184 lbs<br /><br />Avg. paratrooper load for 72-hr mission: 103.6 lbs<br /><br />Given this weight, "When contact is made, maneuver is difficult. AWT [air weapons team,i.e. apache helicopters], CAS [close air support,i.e.,air force planes] and Indirect fires [mortars and artillery] are relied upon heavily to destroy the enemy."<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-32045853536866232902013-01-25T10:44:58.677-08:002013-01-25T10:44:58.677-08:00When I was in 9th grade my high school's JV bo...When I was in 9th grade my high school's JV boys soccer team, on which half of the guys had never played soccer before, scrimmaged the state champion girls varsity team from our school. We beat them handily and it wasn't even a fair fight. We just got to every loose ball faster than the girls did.<br /><br />Because of this experience, I opined in several conversations last summer that a decent high school boys team could beat the USA women's olympic team. Surprisingly, most of the women I told this agreed and it was the men that rushed to defend the lady olympians' athleticism.Jokah Macphersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04185675633464395897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-39049492146992262732013-01-25T10:32:18.642-08:002013-01-25T10:32:18.642-08:00Apparently the US military needs women to interact...<i>Apparently the US military needs women to interact with local woman who may be part of the insurgency, so Amazon on Amazon might be the right idea. Hidden in this discussion is they are not thinking World War I, they are thinking the perpetual global war on terror.</i><br /><br />So let them join the Peace Corps (or the CIA). Even fit them them out in full battle dress. The local desert women aren't going to know or care about the lack of authenticity so you can still enjoy the supposed 'Wow, women in the military - the possibilities in the west are endless! We've gotta become just like them asap!' effect taking place.<br /><br />No, this stuff runs deeper. You're dealing with devout fanatics.Silvernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-48333826893453121602013-01-25T09:23:55.731-08:002013-01-25T09:23:55.731-08:00When you say women in combat and women in sports, ...When you say women in combat and women in sports, are you really talking lesbians?<br /><br />"all-female battles between our Amazon units and their Amazon units"<br /><br />Apparently the US military needs women to interact with local woman who may be part of the insurgency, so Amazon on Amazon might be the right idea. Hidden in this discussion is they are not thinking World War I, they are thinking the perpetual global war on terror.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-86756111435860904182013-01-25T09:07:48.799-08:002013-01-25T09:07:48.799-08:00As a former collegiate athlete and coach, I’ve see...As a former collegiate athlete and coach, I’ve seen the athletic differences between men and women up close. In trying to demonstrate this to a friend in light of the women in combat question, I compared the 2012 women's Olympic gold medalist track and field results to the 2012 Ohio Boys High School Division I state championship final results.<br /><br />I note what the female gold medalist would have placed in the boys meet and the variance to the winning time/height/distance in the boys event.<br /><br />100m 1st +0.01 seconds<br />200m 4th -0.27 seconds <br />400m 10th -2.11 seconds<br />800m 8th -5.10 seconds<br />High Jump 1st +1.71 inches (odd # because meters vs. feet)<br />Long Jump 1st +3.57 inches<br />Pole Vault 4th -1 foot 6.99 inches<br /><br />Ohio Division I is made up of 30% of the high schools and has 59% of the male students in the state (132k boys). So in summary, a population of 132k teenage boys in Ohio produces a set of athletes that are roughly the same or better than 3.5 billion women in the entire world.Carynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-70940121643503546752013-01-25T08:34:40.170-08:002013-01-25T08:34:40.170-08:00Mark Caplan said: the whole point of going to wa...Mark Caplan said: the whole point of going to war was to protect your women, children and land.<br /><br />Hunsdon: Our day is done, sir. It's a brave new world.Hunsdonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-37002202879210110842013-01-25T07:56:48.590-08:002013-01-25T07:56:48.590-08:00"Anonymous Anonymous said...
Women should be..."Anonymous Anonymous said...<br /><br />Women should be allowed to do anything that men do as long as standards are not lowered, and no one receives special treatment. Why should this be so radical?"<br /><br />It's radical because it ignores the realities of biology.Mr. Anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-90792386270379231412013-01-25T06:54:18.422-08:002013-01-25T06:54:18.422-08:00I certainly sympathize with those on here that vie...I certainly sympathize with those on here that view the degradation of the US military as a long-term positive – weaken the beast, less foolish interventions, etc etc. But in terms of long-term policy it would seem that having a more capable military that is used wisely would be superior to having a weak, PC-ridden jobs program of a military that is used stupidly. <br /><br />I am still naïve enough to think that one day our foreign policy won’t be run entirely by crazy people. I’d like to see our military about 1/3 its current size, but minus all the PC bs that leads to mediocrities like Colin Powell blathering on TV or Kara Hultgreen becoming a hero for incompetently crashing and killing herself in an F-14. <br /><br />There is no reason whatsoever to have women in any physical job, whether military or police or firefighting. What part of “smaller and weaker” do people not understand? Women have been a complete disaster wherever they’ve been used in the military, outside of cooking and nursing roles. They stink as pilots (I flew F-4’s and F-16’s in the USAF and overlapped for about 2 years with the post-Tailhook nonsense that saw women integrated into fighter squadrons) yet are still promoted and inserted into elite units; are too weak to contribute in any way to combat support units yet are still promoted; in the Navy they get pregnant at alarming rates that coincide with deployments. They're an obvious failure to anyone casually paying attention.<br /><br />To those of you thinking “as long as they meet the standards” you are kidding yourselves. We already have over 20 years of data that they’re not meeting the standards in aircraft or on ships. None of this matters. Why do you think them not meeting the standards in other roles will make any difference? Our overlords will just lower the standards or blame women’s failure on sexism or whatever. They will also soon press for admittance to special forces – jobs that more than 99% of men couldn’t physically do, let alone any woman. Yet they’ll be admitted. And we’ll read about how they’re “just as good”. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com