tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post5168068451258570596..comments2024-03-28T16:22:14.888-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: We have always been at war with YouTube!Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger115125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-12251413744652077302012-09-18T07:56:30.594-07:002012-09-18T07:56:30.594-07:00"Anonymous said...
"Moral rights" ..."Anonymous said...<br /><br />"Moral rights" mean nothing to me in a world where my enemy wants to kill me and mine. Period."<br /><br />I suspect that "you and yours" are not the same people as "me and mine". YOUR enemy is no threat to us. So stop trying to induce us to fight YOUR damned war. Fight it yourself, if you are so inclined. Mr. Anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-60166936093014424742012-09-17T20:33:36.775-07:002012-09-17T20:33:36.775-07:00"Keeping the young men under control is one o..."Keeping the young men under control is one of the central responsibilities of government....What is the solution? Beats the hell out of me"<br /><br />Don't import more.<br /><br />.<br />""Moral rights" mean nothing to me in a world where my enemy wants to kill me and mine. Period."<br /><br />You are talking about the American MSM right?<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-87780190669579822992012-09-17T19:35:48.986-07:002012-09-17T19:35:48.986-07:00The entire Middle East is not worth a single Ameri...<i>The entire Middle East is not worth a single American life.</i><br /><br />Nor the bones of a Pomeranian bombardier.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-36430317627420567672012-09-17T16:54:34.186-07:002012-09-17T16:54:34.186-07:00NOTA,
And just as with Pakistan/India, Israel/Ira...NOTA,<br /><br /><i>And just as with Pakistan/India, Israel/Iran having nukes pointed at each other is another opportunity for a chain of miscalculations and fuckups to lead to a nuclear exchange, which will kill lots of people and make a hell of a big mess.</i><br /><br />I think we'd all prefer a world in which that doesn't occur, but a sober analysis must surely have us conclude that, if it occurs, that's "their problem," that they'll have brought it on themselves. Certainly it doesn't justify preemptively attacking Iran today. If the Israeli right (which dominates the country) were not such proven liars, cheats and assholes many more people might feel differently, that prevention would be the worth the cost in blood, but with Israel constantly lying to the world and trying to have its cake and eat it too, forget it. Silvernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1319568967809979302012-09-17T11:45:50.719-07:002012-09-17T11:45:50.719-07:00Albert/Patosaurus said "Keeping the young men...Albert/Patosaurus said "Keeping the young men under control is one of the central responsibilities of government....What is the solution? Beats the hell out of me. In the past this population cohort was set to manual labor but since 1453 (the beginning of the modern period), we have concentrated on labor saving techniques and devices."<br /><br />This is an interesting point and one that few people keep their eye on. This is one reason that most modern societies in one way or another discourage polygamy. If you assume an approximate 50/50 distribution of male/female births, then each male taking an extra wife creates another male with no stake in the system and no incentive to behave. <br /><br />O/T but I'm surprised polygamists haven't used Lawrence v. Texas to their benefit. They're not a favored minority, so maybe they'd get nowhere even though they have the "law" (as defined by the Divine Tribunal, err, supreme court) on their side. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-30670361574096883712012-09-17T10:11:13.305-07:002012-09-17T10:11:13.305-07:00"3) have a moral right to one for deterrence ..."3) have a moral right to one for deterrence and self defense.<br /><br />"4) have a moral right to one because other nations have them."<br />________________________________<br />"Moral rights" mean nothing to me in a world where my enemy wants to kill me and mine. Period.<br /><br />To allow one's enemy (yes, fundamentalist Muslims ARE my enemy) to use get weapons that he wishes to use against me when I can prevent that is to show in Darwinian terms that one is not evolutionarily fit.<br /><br />One expects a hungry lion to attack the lagging, unobservant zebra. <br /><br />If you wish to believe a mob hungry for this or that won't be the lion to your zebra, you go right ahead and turn your back and drink contentedly at the small pool of water, contemplating the "moral right" of your enemy.<br /><br />What stupidity. Have any children?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-76530963790556633402012-09-17T09:13:34.092-07:002012-09-17T09:13:34.092-07:00There are many anti-Mohammed vids on YT and elsewh...There are many anti-Mohammed vids on YT and elsewhere. Why did this one, this particular one, "cause" riots?<br /><br />Did most of the film's budget go into advertising and "distribution"? Did this film have a secret backer...for example, Bibi's government? Or someone in Obama's government?<br /><br />Anyhow, they found a scapegoat - a jailbird in gold chains - so everyone can go back to sleep until "we" bomb Iran in the name of Gay Rights and $9-per-gallon gas.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-74483875033820276002012-09-17T09:07:36.013-07:002012-09-17T09:07:36.013-07:00Juan Cole on Iran's bomb-making plans. He kno...<a href="http://www.juancole.com/2012/09/top-myths-about-irans-nuclear-enrichment-program.html" rel="nofollow">Juan Cole on Iran's bomb-making plans</a>. He knows a lot more than I do about this stuff, but I am deeply skeptical that a head of state will ever find himself morally unable to lie about secret weapons programs, religious reasons or no. I think every president we've had has been at least nominally a Christian, many have apparently taken it pretty seriously, and yet none of them seem to have had much trouble lying to serve their own purposes. And *everyone* lies about diplomacy and espionage and planning for war. <br /><br />More broadly, if I were in charge of the Iranian government, given the last decade's history and the ongoing hostility with Israel and the US, I'd absolutely be seeking nukes. <br /><br />Still, it's worth remembering that just becase the US MSM consensus is "Iran will have nukes any day now and then will nuke Israel for unfathomable religious reasons" doesn't mean that this is really true. Maybe the Iranians aren't actually trying to get a bomb. NOTAnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-8177779955757288242012-09-17T08:36:52.815-07:002012-09-17T08:36:52.815-07:00If Britain's royal family not only sued but al...If Britain's royal family not only sued but also rioted and murdered in response to the Kate Middleton boob snaps, would Ireland be demanding that the United States help it to bomb Scotland? When do "we" nuke Iran?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-21856812029850851672012-09-17T08:30:45.232-07:002012-09-17T08:30:45.232-07:00Post at 10:43 pm said, "Don´t be silly, they ...Post at 10:43 pm said, "Don´t be silly, they don´t like us because of our freedom. And especially our weakness towards them!!"<br /><br />Either you are being funy or you are completely illogical. If they hated countries because of their "freedom and democracy", they would have attacked Switzerland or Norway. They attack Americans, because we are over there messin with their stuff. <br /><br />If we just leave the 1.3 Billion Muslims alone, they will go back to doing what the've done for the last 4,000 years, which is to fight among themselves. <br /><br />The entire Middle East is not worth a single American life, nor the 3 Trillion Dollars we've spent. And don't tell me it's about oil. They will ALWAYS sell us oil, because that is the ONLY thing they have to sell. If they don't sell us oil, they starve.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-50757340689196659942012-09-17T08:21:30.389-07:002012-09-17T08:21:30.389-07:00From post at 8:30 pm: "It's a damned funn...From post at 8:30 pm: "It's a damned funny "concentration camp" that lets you emigrate to America to live with you Uncle Yasser in New Jersey."<br /><br />The USA is complicit in the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians from their own land. The way the scheme works is like this: Israel forces the Palestinians off their land and into the Gaza Concentration Camp and West Bank. The Israel's make sure that life there is so horrible that the Palestinians are desperate to escape. The USA imports tens of thousands of them. This is all part of Israel's Final Solution to the Palestinian problem -- little by little they eliminate them. <br /><br /> Where they go? -- the Jews don't care, just as long as it it out of Greater Israel. To the USA? Well, the're now America's problem, not Israel's problem.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-77923717309792602772012-09-17T07:54:18.646-07:002012-09-17T07:54:18.646-07:00The irony here is that, with this Youtube video, a...The irony here is that, with this Youtube video, as with the Mohammed cartoons and all sorts of other stuff, there is a weird alliance:<br /><br />a. Muslim anti-Western rabble-rousers want to offensive videos, cartoons, books, etc, to help them rouse the rabble, get big protests going, get on Al Jazeera, etc. <br /><br />b. Western anti-Muslim rabble-rousers want the Muslim rabble well and truly roused, since that helps make their case that the Muslims are inclined to riot over Youtube clips and cartoons and stuff. <br /><br />My take is that both these groups are mostly attention-seeking assholes, FWIW. <br /><br />For most of the governments in the region, this stuff is a big headache. Even Islamists like Morsi don't like getting stuck either condemning a demonstration against something offensive, or p-ssing off a powerful country who's sending them billions of dollars a year in aid. Similarly, for American officials, this is a headache even outside the attack on the Libyan consulate that killed the ambassador. <br /><br />It's worth remembering, though, that that attack co-incided with a demonstration about the Youtube video, but was quite separate. The attack on the consulate involved mortars and rocket launchers, and included someone knowing the path the Americans would take to get to their fallback safe position, and ambushing them on the road. That wasn't an angry mob, who could have torn down a flag or something, but who could not have killed the ambassador from smoke inhalation while sheltering in the consulate. <br /><br />NOTAnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-2850029495094504032012-09-17T07:37:31.765-07:002012-09-17T07:37:31.765-07:00"Anonymous said...
So, am I to conclude that..."Anonymous said...<br /><br />So, am I to conclude that some of you either 1) don't think Iraq is fairly close to a nuclear weapon or 2) figure even if they have one, they're not any more likely to use it than any other nation with nukes?"<br /><br />So, am I to conclude that you don't know the difference between Iraq and Iran, and so therefore your opinions on these matters aren't worth a bucket of spit?<br /><br />But in answer to what your question might be construed to mean, if one substitues "Iran" for "Iraq":<br /><br />1.) I don't care how close Iran is to a nuclear weapon<br /><br />2.) No, I don't think they would be more likely to use one than any other nation that has nuclear weapons. To my knowledge, no persian has ever advocated a doctrine as selfish and bloody-minded as some interpretations of the "The Samson Option":<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_optionMr. Anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-8802655438318111882012-09-17T07:15:33.474-07:002012-09-17T07:15:33.474-07:00Beecher:
I think that's the sane peoples'...Beecher:<br /><br />I think that's the sane peoples' reason for worrying about an attack on Iran. It seems very likely that Iran is trying to get a nuke, and absolutely clear that the world will be a worse place when they get one. But what's not clear is how an Israeli or US strike actually stops them long-term, or what the aftermath is. Do we end up invading Iran? Given how well our invasion of Iraq worked out, and what a fine time we've had in Afghanistan for the last decade, that just looks like a great idea. What could possibly go wrong? <br /><br />I definitely don't buy the line that the moment Iran has a nuke, they'll strike Israel at the cost of certain destruction of their country. But a nuclear Iran probably means more chances of a terrorist getting hold of a nuke (still not likely at all, but more countries = more chances), and almost certainly encourages their neighbors getting their own nukes. With current technology, the nuclear club could easily double in size in a decade or so, and that's a much worse world to live in than the one we have now. And just as with Pakistan/India, Israel/Iran having nukes pointed at each other is another opportunity for a chain of miscalculations and fuckups to lead to a nuclear exchange, which will kill lots of people and make a hell of a big mess. <br /><br />At any rate, the examples of Pakistan and Libya seem to me to cement the lesson that nukes make you much less likely to be attacked by the West. If Pakistan didn't have nukes, is there any chance we would not be at war with them by now? Their intelligence services actively support the folks attacking us in Afghanistan, and they were apparently sheltering the head of Al Qaida till we found and killed the bastard. On the other hand, if Libya had had nukes, is there the slightest chance we would have gone in for operation "what the fuck, let's bomb some more Muslims?" Gadafi gave up his partial nuclear program, and at least according to news reports, it was surprisingly advanced. NOTAnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-69992289718827932492012-09-16T23:04:08.567-07:002012-09-16T23:04:08.567-07:00Off topic...
Steve, do you think a neighbor of yo...Off topic...<br /><br />Steve, do you think a neighbor of yours would instantly recognize your writing here on this blog??And, if they did, how close politically to you would they be??<br /><br />I ask because, for America´s sake you should run for office. Maybe the locals(if they read your blog) agree with you, and we could have a hellava congressman/blogger...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-68970514523864199982012-09-16T23:02:40.847-07:002012-09-16T23:02:40.847-07:00A question to the pro-attack Iran crowd. Why is n...A question to the pro-attack Iran crowd. Why is no one discussing the invasion and occupation of Iran?<br /><br />If we don't invade, occupy and at least try to force them to become a democratic, pro-feminist, pro-gay, pro-Israel state, then won't the hoi polli awaken and conclude that the Afghan and Iraqi adventures where a total waste of blood, treasure, and national will?<br /><br />If the US feels threatened by Iran and believes it can alleviate that threat by simply bombing and not invading, then why could we not have felt secure doing the same with the much smaller and less threatening Afghanistan and Iraq?Beecher Asburynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-17816236601253760482012-09-16T22:59:06.624-07:002012-09-16T22:59:06.624-07:00I mean, I really can't overemphasize how many ...I mean, I really can't overemphasize how many times we've told Whiskey it's spelled "Buchanan." Over and over and over...<br /><br />This perfectly encapsulates Whiskey as a person. He's so far gone we can't even correct the man's spelling, let alone anything important.<br /><br /><br /><br />The scary thing is, how many Whiskey´s are out there? Could it be in the hundreds of thousands/millions?? One is far too many, and they are destroying this country...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-50335207100848990252012-09-16T22:56:19.126-07:002012-09-16T22:56:19.126-07:00"...but he'd surely destroy Obama in a de...<br />"...but he'd surely destroy Obama in a debate and show him for the arrogant empty suit he is."<br /><br />Wow, Newt Gingrich worship now?<br /><br />I may make fun of Mittens, and he's going to lose in November, but he was the best of the Republican lot, BY A COUNTRY MILE.<br /><br />9/16/12 5:02 PM<br /><br /><br /><br />True. Except for......<br /><br /><br />RON PAUL.<br /><br />Americans deserve what they get after the treatment he recieved. The last true "American"politician, in the traditional(or at least in my mind) sense.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-58712018863198746072012-09-16T22:45:45.480-07:002012-09-16T22:45:45.480-07:00Denmark is pretty much the epitome of the Pat Buch...<i>Denmark is pretty much the epitome of the Pat Buchanon strategy. And that worked out for them how?</i><br /><br />The Iraq invasion is pretty much the epitome of your strategy. And that worked out for the USA how?Beecher Asburynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-16737782847992873592012-09-16T22:43:38.609-07:002012-09-16T22:43:38.609-07:00So, am I to conclude that some of you either 1) do...<i>So, am I to conclude that some of you either 1) don't think Iraq is fairly close to a nuclear weapon or 2) figure even if they have one, they're not any more likely to use it than any other nation with nukes?</i><br /><br />3) have a moral right to one for deterrence and self defense.<br /><br />4) have a moral right to one because other nations have them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-45737330747306255612012-09-16T22:43:10.740-07:002012-09-16T22:43:10.740-07:00"We strafe them, bomb them, cruze-missle them..."We strafe them, bomb them, cruze-missle them, drone-attack them, imprison them, torture them, blow up their houses, weddings, and funerals, create entire villages of ophans and widows,take their land & force them into squalid concentration camps (Gaza), overthrow their governoments and replace them with our puppets -- and they STILL don't like us.<br /><br />How many do we have to kill before they start liking us?"<br /><br />Don´t be silly, they don´t like us because of our freedom. And especially our weakness towards them!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-50969074928333962022012-09-16T22:36:56.396-07:002012-09-16T22:36:56.396-07:00I mean, I really can't overemphasize how many ...<i>I mean, I really can't overemphasize how many times we've told Whiskey it's spelled "Buchanan." Over and over and over...</i><br /><br />The "Buchanon" thing truly makes me wonder if he is in an institution somewhere. Seriously.CJnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-77748655123089040862012-09-16T22:16:37.263-07:002012-09-16T22:16:37.263-07:00So, am I to conclude that some of you either 1) do...<i>So, am I to conclude that some of you either 1) don't think Iraq [sic] is fairly close to a nuclear weapon or 2) figure even if they[sic] have one, they're not any more likely to use it than any other nation with nukes?</i><br /><br />You forgot <b>the most crucial point:</b><br /><br />3) those deranged Iranians <a href="http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3327251,00.html" rel="nofollow">deeply subscribe</a> to the<a href="http://www.examiner.com/article/iran-film-says-muslim-messiah-is-near" rel="nofollow"> insane idea</a> of a<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O50fLtr0yqI&feature=player_embedded" rel="nofollow"> coming Messiah!</a>770http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Md_4C8i2aJ0&feature=player_detailpagenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-3816080173848337142012-09-16T21:55:55.053-07:002012-09-16T21:55:55.053-07:002) figure even if they have one, they're not a...<i>2) figure even if they have one, they're not any more likely to use it than any other nation with nukes?</i><br /><br />I don't believe they'd be more likely to use it than Israel, no.<br /><br />Silvernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-2737281888818569742012-09-16T21:29:51.840-07:002012-09-16T21:29:51.840-07:00So, am I to conclude that some of you either 1) do...So, am I to conclude that some of you either 1) don't think Iraq is fairly close to a nuclear weapon or 2) figure even if they have one, they're not any more likely to use it than any other nation with nukes?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com