tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post529558551259590878..comments2024-03-15T20:52:26.967-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: Bachelorettes in Debt -- The New Reverse Dowry SystemUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger88125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-69676960900338045962010-04-26T09:22:40.687-07:002010-04-26T09:22:40.687-07:00Guess I'm lucky. I am single and just retired ...Guess I'm lucky. I am single and just retired from 30 years as a Law Enforcement Administrator in Southern California with a yearly pension of 230K with 5% pay increases every year. Over five million in investments, 1.5 million in the bank, plus full paid medical, dental, and vision insurance for myself and my wife if I was married. I have two homes one in the city one at the beach that are paid for. My vehicles are paid off and I have no credit card debt. I am a good looking guy who has had many offers from bachelorettes however so far I have not wanted to share my life with any of them. <br /><br />Now that said I would like to meet Miss right and settle down. She would be well cared for and pampered.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-22481140747289655262008-12-04T11:00:00.000-08:002008-12-04T11:00:00.000-08:00For an interesting post on the "whats your number"...For an interesting post on the "whats your number" issue, see:<BR/>http://dlicioustastytoo.blogspot.com/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-16561633194846910882008-11-13T08:19:00.000-08:002008-11-13T08:19:00.000-08:00The advice about not giving a damn is a zillion ti...The advice about not giving a damn is a zillion times better than "be yourself" -- and almost a zillion times more difficult to pull off.<BR/><BR/>I'm a built, good-looking guy who spent years hanging out with Italian "mafia" wanna-be's. Girls have always been pretty easy for me. Mostly low-rent stuff in those circles, but still plenty of hotties.<BR/><BR/>Since leaving that world behind, I've graduated to the more cerebral set. It took a while to figure out they're really no different. <BR/><BR/>Guys phenomenally underestimate the importance of their own looks. If you're not good-looking, you're going to have to work damn hard to get just a 7; 8s and, especially, 9s, you can virtually forget about.<BR/><BR/>"PUA" material can be quite useful here. I first got interested some ten years ago, when I wanted to find out what the "pros" were doing better than me. Not a great deal, as it happened. I made some useful attitudinal adjustments, but they weren't anything radically different from the way I already was. If your mindset <I>is</I> radically different to what "PUA" prescribes, I really can't see the material, of itself, being much help. There's a world of difference between understanding it intellectually and displaying those behaviors yourself.<BR/><BR/>Still, the best stuff invariably comes down to lowering her value while raising yours, and few things do that better than resolute nonchalance, and that's a state of mind that, with enough practise, most could probably develop. <BR/><BR/>Personally, I'm in it for a wife these days. Most girls are almost certainly way more experienced than they let on, but that doesn't bother me so much (yeah, not even having been with "Truth" is a deal-breaker). Human nature is much more fixed than cultural anthros might believe, but it's also a lot less fixed than most hbd hardasses believe. Point: if she has enough positives, you can retrain the rest of her. At least, I feel completely confident that I can. (Seriously, I can hardly even conceptualize not getting my way with a girl who's into me. Not that it can't happen, of course.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-64994641201527822052008-11-11T16:39:00.000-08:002008-11-11T16:39:00.000-08:00Holy hell Zorgon did you let slip that you live in...Holy hell Zorgon did you let slip that you live in Travis county? As in within at least a short drive of AUSTIN TEXAS. Damn it man that place is the MOTHERLOAD! You must be shy. That is the only explanation. Get thee to sixth street, fourth street and start talking to girls. Don't stop talking until you get a phone number. Friendliest place ever and people love to drink and socialize.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-32651118223176677952008-11-11T07:27:00.000-08:002008-11-11T07:27:00.000-08:00as an old married guy, I'll tell you that intense ...as an old married guy, I'll tell you that intense preoccupation w/ looks is self-defeating. My first wife was beautiful but selfish and spoiled. After our divorce I married a woman who was physically less attractive but with a sweet soul and I haven't been sorry in 20 years. Even beauty queen will be old for a longer time than she is young.<BR/><BR/> In life you get what you look for. If you seek out beauty you'll find it but smarts, morals etc. might not be included. If you seek out smarts and morals you'll find them but beauty might not be included. Decide which one matters to you and choose accordingly. But don't whine that looking for a hot body doesn't result in finding inner beauty.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-41715417681650284842008-11-11T07:16:00.000-08:002008-11-11T07:16:00.000-08:00testin99, How old are you? If you're 45 ...testin99,<BR/> How old are you? If you're 45 and not George Clooney snagging a hot 25 y/o is somewhat unlikely. Realistic standards are the name of the game.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-55302134724605419122008-11-10T20:36:00.000-08:002008-11-10T20:36:00.000-08:00"So give ONE CONCRETE SUGGESTION about a social en..."So give ONE CONCRETE SUGGESTION about a social environment with a surplus of single, non-obese young women, where men are permitted*"<BR/><BR/>I hate to give away my own personal secret, but hey, we're brothers right?<BR/><BR/>Go to job fairs in your town. TONS of single women looking for jobs and they're in the mindset that they are there TO IMPRESS MEN. You can hand out business cards and say "we'll keep in touch I have a lot of contacts." That's kind of like catnip to Felix when the mortgage is soon to come due. Then you call up, offer lunch, be a little arrogant...boom! you're in there.Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-65736306958735852882008-11-10T19:25:00.000-08:002008-11-10T19:25:00.000-08:00So give ONE CONCRETE SUGGESTION about a social env...<I>So give ONE CONCRETE SUGGESTION about a social environment with a surplus of single, non-obese young women, where men are permitted*. </I><BR/><BR/>Dancing classes. Learn to salsa, swing, tango, whatever floats your boat. Meeting single, fit women here, who are literally captive audiences (when you're dancing) is ridiculously easy (many of whom join for the same reason). <BR/><BR/>Most dance schools in turn hold dance parties restricted to the schools students where you will be introduced to additional women outside your class in a collegial environment where women are rarely in defensive mode & are likely there on their own (no girlfriends serving as a moat). If you're shy about approaching women, a place where you are matched up with various women by others for dancing purposes and you both work together to learn how to do something, can be great. Women tend to outnumber men, unsurprisingly, so that's another plus.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-50605852642465763562008-11-10T19:18:00.000-08:002008-11-10T19:18:00.000-08:00"I've given up on the whole mating game. I conside..."I've given up on the whole mating game. I considered the PUA thing, but it is ridiculous to have to go to such lengths just to get women. It's not worth the effort." -- I know guys who seem to be in this camp. And even among the PUA community, it's a pretty common attitude that "most young women are no longer suitable for long-term relationships, and marriage is a horribly raw deal for men." Both attitudes speak ill for the future of our society.<BR/><BR/>"older married women used to create the social context in which their children could get married and make grandbabies for them but now they all have mostly completely useless jobs instead." -- Don't forget mobility. I am one of 3 brothers. Only 1 of the 3 of us lives in the same state as my parents. The other two (including me) live over 1000 miles away. I actually wouldn't mind hanging out with my parents' friends and their kids, but we scattered all over the place.<BR/><BR/>"you haven't addressed the obesity epidemic which disfigures a significant portion of women who would have been eligible a generation or two ago." -- well, let's be fair, plenty of guys are obese too. Anyway, these days, I'm in good shape, and that helps, but it only helps so much.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-19486759874450348682008-11-10T18:04:00.000-08:002008-11-10T18:04:00.000-08:00I married a Chinese woman, and there the man is ex...I married a Chinese woman, and there the man is expected to give a gift of money to the bride's parents. As peterw said, this may be related to the woman doing a lot of the work. Perhaps not coincidentally, I've read that China is one of the few countries in the world with a higher female than male suicide rate.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-69278592588198434242008-11-10T17:19:00.000-08:002008-11-10T17:19:00.000-08:00"to get involved in things that mostly men like, h...<I>"to get involved in things that mostly men like, however boring or embarrassing I found it at times. And it worked. If you want to meet women, you'll have to do the same, just in the opposite direction."</I><BR/><BR/>So give <B>ONE CONCRETE SUGGESTION</B> about a social environment with a surplus of single, non-obese young women, where men are permitted*.<BR/><BR/>*Note that men are officially excluded from "women's Bible studies," "Curves," shopping for women's shoes, volunteering at many women's shelters, etc.<BR/><BR/>A woman can easily go to a seminar on home beer brewing, a hiking club, a motorsport club, an aviation club, a model train club, an anime festival, hiking club, gun club, golf club, Cichlid association meeting, etc., ad infinitum. But where should a man go?<BR/><BR/>Fat middle-aged knitting clubs and bridge clubs for the elderly don't count.<BR/><BR/>Even if an activity (like running) attracts men and women equally, the xoxosoma map shows that fertile <B>single</B> women will be in extremely short supply.<BR/><BR/>And you haven't addressed the obesity epidemic which disfigures a significant portion of women who would have been eligible a generation or two ago.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-75670725965460210982008-11-10T15:31:00.000-08:002008-11-10T15:31:00.000-08:00Except last Anon -- women don't select "friends." ...Except last Anon -- women don't select "friends." Women select in BARS. That's it. In volunteer groups? Young women almost never volunteer, it's older married women in their fifties ... or older.<BR/><BR/>I've been in many a volunteer group, that one would assume would be ground zero for younger women (Sierra Club, Habitat for Humanity, etc.) and the women there were all over fifty. Mostly it was run by them. The "Singles" groups are a laugh -- mostly men and women over fifty, divorced. A useful service perhaps but of no use to younger men and women.<BR/><BR/>In fact, Volunteering in America has a useful city and national survey. Older people make volunteering happen. Younger people are too busy with the mating game which is dominated by the bar scene. Churches too are dominated by older women -- younger women don't attend. The workplace is a minefield.<BR/><BR/>As for women's partners, anyone catch the WE network series on girls in HS? I was shocked, but after reflection less so, on how many had not just had sex while significantly underage, but also got pregnant. Out of seven girls profiled, one had her baby (gave it up for adoption), one had an abortion, and one had a miscarriage. This was in conservative Kansas, too. The heartland. The others averaged two sex partners in the four years. Other surveys have put partners (Wolfe's Charlotte Simmons was fairly accurate) in college for girls at about eight to ten over four years. Booze, no responsibilities, removal from family and friends, expectation of sex, easily leads to two partners a year on average (the reality is more like a bunch of flings between boyfriends).<BR/><BR/>I'm more on the Roissy than Devlin side. I don't think Feminism is particularly significant, in it's widespread impact on how women live their lives. I don't think either that the problem is older women not matchmaking -- see the film "Crossing Delancy" to see why that is failed.<BR/><BR/>The Pill, and the Condom, plus physical mobility to live in anonymous, high-income urban centers, allows women absolute freedom to choose with no social constraints. Women, "empowered" to the same equal social status of men and roughly equal income will not, largely accept men of equal status and income. They demand a premium. Mostly, in testosterone-driven physical attractiveness, in the bar scene, where a split-second decision (often drunk, as Bridget Jones shows) to sleep with a guy based on his social dominance and aggressiveness is the norm. Women want the "Alpha" defined soley on his ability to attract women, and will share them. This happens across cultures, in Japan and South Korea and Taiwan and Southern Europe and Northern Europe and America and even Latin America. <BR/><BR/>It's the social position and control women have over their own lives that leads to them choosing what they want -- lots of sex with "Alphas" where they are willing to share and do so. Women absent constraints demand a premium over their own perceived social position. Which leaves most men out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-44238117966222538632008-11-10T11:29:00.000-08:002008-11-10T11:29:00.000-08:00This is a little better as options go, but a lot o...<I> This is a little better as options go, but a lot of my interests are male-dominated areas, and while this may get you female friends it will not necessarily get you a date. </I><BR/><BR/>Most of my interests are in female (and gay male) dominated areas - sports, tech, etc. bore me to tears. However, I wanted to meet men so I forced myself to get involved in things that mostly men like, however boring or embarrassing I found it at times. And it worked. If you want to meet women, you'll have to do the same, just in the opposite direction.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-14681975579641596952008-11-10T01:08:00.000-08:002008-11-10T01:08:00.000-08:00I've given up on the whole mating game. I conside...I've given up on the whole mating game. I considered the PUA thing, but it is ridiculous to have to go to such lengths just to get women.<BR/>It's not worth the effort.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-6943596181197863412008-11-10T00:49:00.000-08:002008-11-10T00:49:00.000-08:00The reason things are broken is that older married...The reason things are broken is that older married women used to create the social context in which their children could get married and make grandbabies for them but now they all have mostly completely useless jobs instead. <BR/><BR/>Some of them knew they were doing this, but most were just doing what they felt was expected of them. Mostly women do what they feel is expected of them. It's expected now that women have jobs. If they don't have a job, they need to be doing intensive childrearing or volunteer work. It's completely unacceptable for them to spend their afternoons playing bridge or touring each other's gardens or shopping for hats or any other ladylike pursuit. But those apparently useless activities BUILT THE ENTIRE FREAKING SOCIAL WORLD. Just like a world of women would never invent anything useful, a world of men will never have a nice party. You meet your spouse at a nice party that your mom nagged you into going to because her friend needs more people there. You have total plausible deniability about being there - you're not there cause you're lonely and desperate - you don't need game, you don't need the rules. The biddies took care of that for you. All you need to do is show up and be fertile/virile. <BR/><BR/>But middle-aged women can't do this, and have jobs, and take care of their elderly parents, and exercise, and worry about their husbands leaving them or have to take care of their children with no husband at all. Impossible.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-24700256067954767132008-11-09T20:45:00.000-08:002008-11-09T20:45:00.000-08:00"you may be looking for 10s" -- not even close."It..."you may be looking for 10s" -- not even close.<BR/><BR/>"It's easy if you don't give a damn..." -- better advice than the classic useless advice "just be yourself", but not by much.<BR/><BR/>"Nobody meets anyone worth a damn in a bar" -- I think that's an exaggeration, but look at the alternatives for young guys who have already graduated and live in an urban/suburban area. Traditional social structures have broken down.<BR/><BR/>Church? Among highly educated folks of my generation, church attendance is pretty low.<BR/><BR/>Political campaigns? Maybe if you're a leftist guy. Look at Obama's % of the vote among younger people and among single women. On top of that, I live in a county where Obama won 2/3 of the vote (Travis County, TX), so I can only imagine how absurdly lopsided it was among young single women here.<BR/><BR/>Hobbies/clubs/common interests? This is a little better as options go, but a lot of my interests are male-dominated areas, and while this may get you female friends it will not necessarily get you a date. Once you wind up in the "friend zone" it's impossible to get out. In PUA lingo, "attraction before comfort."<BR/><BR/>I live in a suburban area, and many of the women I see day-to-day around these parts are middle-aged, often married and dragging their kids around, often obese. I would probably do better living downtown and not in the suburbs.<BR/><BR/>You didn't list online dating, but that's a good way to spend lots of time and money and get absolutely nowhere. Send 100 emails... get maybe 2 or 3 dates.<BR/><BR/>"if no one likes the situation, why is it the way it is?" -- the contention of roissy and Devlin is that feminism/women's lib caused it. It freed women to chase alpha males and ignore betas. The sexual revolution unleashed a bunch of forces we didn't really understand, and only now are we starting to see what its effects are. It's dangerous to mess with age-old social institutions -- imagine that!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-65905014131881213362008-11-09T19:56:00.000-08:002008-11-09T19:56:00.000-08:00To see the male/female of cities by age, go to:htt...To see the male/female of cities by age, go to:<BR/><BR/>http://www.xoxosoma.com/singles/<BR/><BR/>When you eliminate the fact that women live longer (which skews the 55+ demographic) and isolate, say, the 24-34 group, the map shows lots of BIG BLUE BALLS.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-66143732806417374942008-11-09T19:28:00.000-08:002008-11-09T19:28:00.000-08:00Nobody meets anyone worth a damn in a bar, you guy...Nobody meets anyone worth a damn in a bar, you guys. Rarest occurrence ever.<BR/><BR/>You meet women at church. Or yoga class. Or the gym. Or at lectures. Or even (ew!) political campaigns and functions. <BR/><BR/>You want to meet models, take a modeling class and go to fashion shows. That's where they are, right? Can't imagine why though, most of them I've met are idiots.<BR/><BR/>Pick a function/hobby/whatever that has the kind of people you want to meet in it, and go there. That way you can meet people from your social strata who have the same general values as you do and you can avoid all the bug infested gold digger types that hang out in bars.<BR/><BR/>Bars suck, in my experience. Waste of time and money.The Phantomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10159748429049446398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-29765447209425678742008-11-09T18:45:00.000-08:002008-11-09T18:45:00.000-08:00We seem to have a consensus here that modern cultu...We seem to have a consensus here that modern culture is broken in a vary important way: the mating process does not work. No one seems to be happy with it: women complain about it every chance they get, nerdy guys who can't get laid are obviously unhappy, and I suspect even the PUA's are not very happy with their lives.<BR/><BR/>So the question is: if no one likes the situation, why is it the way it is?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-26909746911427253352008-11-09T18:13:00.000-08:002008-11-09T18:13:00.000-08:00"(Disclaimer: I myself am a millionaire compu..."(Disclaimer: I myself am a millionaire computer programmer and entrepreneur who has been largely unsuccessful with women in my life, and who *has* in fact decided to take a bootcamp -- I've decided that this is a part of my life where I need professional help. Again, this would be funny that I've found myself resorting to such a thing... but it's not one bit funny to me.)" - Zorgon<BR/><BR/>I still find all this hard to believe but on the off chance it might help, make this your mantra:<BR/><BR/>"It's easy if you don't give a damn..."<BR/><BR/>Also, note that you may be looking for 10s who appear to be 10s b/c of their push-up bras, make-up & possible plastic surgery. There are women out there who don't wear make-up unless they are going somewhere special & who wear comfortable clothes but who, if put in the same gear as those 10s, would look just as hot if not hotter. <BR/><BR/>Look for clear skin, bone structure & proportionality in a plain jane & presto she might just be what you are looking for. Plus she will be less superficial so you won't have to pretend to be cassanova to impress her.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-77041289732652310142008-11-09T12:24:00.000-08:002008-11-09T12:24:00.000-08:00I see there are some skeptics of whiskey's/testing...I see there are some skeptics of whiskey's/testing99's points here. So to the skeptics, I say: yes, this is real. It may be worse among the NYC/LA crowd than among Middle America, but it's spreading.<BR/><BR/>We live in a society where even successful millionaire computer programmers and entrepreneurs can now be so dreadfully unsuccessful with women that they find themselves taking expensive "PUA bootcamps" so that professionals can teach them "Game", i.e., the art of hitting those hardwired female attraction buttons.<BR/><BR/>This would be funny if it wasn't really sad. We have responsible, successful guys who have every aspect of their lives "together" -- and yet they can't find a woman -- while irresponsible bad-boy types often have more women than they know what to do with.<BR/><BR/>(Disclaimer: I myself am a millionaire computer programmer and entrepreneur who has been largely unsuccessful with women in my life, and who *has* in fact decided to take a bootcamp -- I've decided that this is a part of my life where I need professional help. Again, this would be funny that I've found myself resorting to such a thing... but it's not one bit funny to me.)<BR/><BR/>I can speak from experience to say that making a lot of money does not help you one bit with younger women these days. In fact, I would predict that you will do better telling women that you are unemployed than telling them that you are a software engineer.<BR/><BR/>You can criticize the "bar scene" and the often unsuitable women there, but if you do, you'll need to suggest an alternative. And if you suggest "meet them through your social circle", bzzzt, try again: my social circle consists of other nerdy guys, some of whom are significantly worse with women than I am.<BR/><BR/>You can criticize the PUA culture's obsession with casual sex over long-term relationships, but this would be a mistake. If you don't have Game, you will have difficulty finding either one. If you do, you'll have your choice of what you want. Indeed, there are even married guys who have found that Game is helpful in improving the quality of their marriage.<BR/><BR/>I was brought up on very traditional values that you study hard, work hard, and you will succeed in life. All wonderful advice. What no one taught me was that studying hard and working hard will make you money, but it will not get you any women.<BR/><BR/>Traditional dating really is dead for people in their 20s (I'm 26).<BR/><BR/>Read the roissy blog. Read F. Roger Devlin. You may find what they say exaggerated and somewhat offensive, but there is far too much truth to it to simply ignore it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-63426363524347747202008-11-09T08:51:00.000-08:002008-11-09T08:51:00.000-08:00Wow, now THIS is interesting. There are many scho...Wow, now THIS is interesting. There are many schools of thought here. I would guess that most of the posters here would consider a tall minnesota blonde with a 'blonde' male Turk (hen's teeth) of the same description a race traitor, Am I right?<BR/><BR/>For all intents and purposes is race-trating only white female - anyone else, or is it only white female - black male. Inquiring minds want to know!Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-74589301603732159872008-11-09T01:38:00.000-08:002008-11-09T01:38:00.000-08:00"The vast majority of women have no more than one ..."The vast majority of women have no more than one sexual partner in a given year."<BR/><BR/>Wow, just, well...wow! That's all I can think right now.<BR/><BR/>"Picking up a fortyish hairdresser. Wow you're really making us jealous here Truth."<BR/><BR/>Beverly Hills Hairdresser though. she was hott and had a personality like a dude. She actually crawled under my car and diagnosed my brake problem once. It was just awesome. <BR/><BR/>"Yes, Truth, so you have herpes. This isn't the herpes dating/support group."<BR/><BR/>No, actually, Ive been very lucky, but I appreciate the concern.<BR/><BR/>Finally, I want to take a white race realist poll here; does this qualify as 'race traiting'?<BR/><BR/><BR/>I got out of it (and reclaimed my sanity and self-respect) by marrying a conservative blonde Turkish Muslim girl from a good family, who among other things has all the right views on race, third world immigration, and Israel.Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-22658167130634662202008-11-09T00:31:00.000-08:002008-11-09T00:31:00.000-08:00Would I go go back to the mores of 1960? Absolute...Would I go go back to the mores of 1960? Absolutely. Hell, I'd go back to 1860. Maybe even 1760.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-79371711395512702802008-11-09T00:21:00.000-08:002008-11-09T00:21:00.000-08:00Here is an ariclt worth reading:http://eternalbach...Here is an ariclt worth reading:<BR/><BR/>http://eternalbachelor.blogspot.com/2008/08/feminisms-success.html<BR/><BR/>Here are some excerpts:<BR/><BR/>Feminism is not the problem here. Its proponents have neither the brains nor the talent to advance this far on their own - high-status elite managerial men have allowed this to happen.<BR/><BR/>Men run the world. Men always have. Just a small number of alphas though. But that white technocratic political elite realised that in feminism they had found an unbeatable tool for cowing and demoralising lower status males who will always be potential usurpers<BR/><BR/>Feminism is part of the new class war whereby the right wing authoritarian elite have found they can use left wing dogmas to shore up their power. That is why elite managerial white alpha men like Tony Blair, David Cameron and Brown are so keen on it - it does not threaten them. <BR/><BR/>Feminism has finally achieved what Mrs Thatcher could never quite do - destroy workplace solidarity and ensure that collective action is largely a thing of the past. And it did not take billy-club wielding strike-breakers or labor camps. It took a generation of victimhood obsessed, unhinged females, who knew they could get away with saying and doing anything. <BR/><BR/>If the Wommen's Movement had been orchestrated and acted upon by women solely - and every man was either neutral or dead against it - those whining lezzers would have been bitch-slapped back into the kitchen so hard they'd smash through the wall and into the dining room with their burning bras round their neck. <BR/><BR/>Yet they seem to have been rather successful in inflicting their shitty ideology onto Western Society; and it does seem rather suspicious that virtually every man in mainstream-politics licks the unholy arses of feminisms. David Cameron forever being associated in my mind with his leadership acceptance speech when he bemoaned the horrors of the lack of women in his party, thus losing the vote of many men at a single stroke. The ponce.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com