tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post5310086397457725430..comments2024-03-15T20:52:26.967-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: NBA team accused of discriminating against black basketball playersUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger71125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-77859727892273983922012-11-01T13:18:15.197-07:002012-11-01T13:18:15.197-07:00"Hank Aaron was 6'0" and 180 lbs. Th..."Hank Aaron was 6'0" and 180 lbs. Those dimensions don't really suggest steroid use. "<br /><br />1)how accurate? Many sprinters didn't disclose their true weights.<br />2)steroids don't turn you into 250lb beasts overnight, nor is it a necessity to take steroids to the level of bodybuilders. <br /><br />In the steroid article mentioned above a commenter notes:<br /><br />"Aaron never got big, Bonds started at about 175 as a rookie and 260 in his peak years"<br /><br />it's easier to do so when <a href="http://isteve.blogspot.com/2012/08/photos-of-athletes-nobody-notices-nuthin.html" rel="nofollow">nobody notices nuthin'</a>.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-76002255004222739802012-11-01T03:48:17.955-07:002012-11-01T03:48:17.955-07:00There are better data sets for raw speed - look at...There are better data sets for raw speed - look at 100 m dash times. That sport does not have the speed/power transition that was alluded to before, and since it is a single-trait sport, the data will not be muddled by specialists that are really good at one thing, so that they can get by without speed. <br /><br />Anyway, the sprinter that has showed the best longevity is Merlene Ottey, who at age 52 still competes in her new national team, Slovenia. She holds world records in many age categories above senior. Swordnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-62075265131285442182012-11-01T00:08:03.947-07:002012-11-01T00:08:03.947-07:00No, he didn't. For power, 1973 was his 8th bes...<i>No, he didn't. For power, 1973 was his 8th best season. </i><br /><br />Speaking of the '73 Braves, how in the hell did Davey Johnson hit 43 homers?ben tillmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-87546169656509516132012-10-31T20:18:58.811-07:002012-10-31T20:18:58.811-07:00And I agree that 6" 180 lbs doesn't sugge...And I agree that 6" 180 lbs doesn't suggest Steroid use. Maybe if Mantle had taken care of himself and hadn't spent too many nights partying he would've hit 714 HR's.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-63329136712088666572012-10-31T20:17:11.562-07:002012-10-31T20:17:11.562-07:00It should be noted that Hank Aaron only led the NL...It should be noted that Hank Aaron only led the NL In HRs 4 times and was never thought of as a dominating hitter in the class of Ruth or Ted William (or Bonds when he was on 'roids). His HR stats for his first 10 years are pretty similar to his teammate Eddie Matthews - who everyone has pretty much forgot. Aaron got to 714 because unlike Mantle and Mays he stayed healthy and kept plugging away - at a fairly high level -year after year.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-5387096400698970872012-10-31T19:52:08.845-07:002012-10-31T19:52:08.845-07:00Are Rangers, Marine Special Ops, Seals, Special Fo...Are Rangers, Marine Special Ops, Seals, Special Forces, and Rangers our best and most resilient athletes?<br /><br />goatweedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-78844993619292288662012-10-31T19:34:56.411-07:002012-10-31T19:34:56.411-07:00Lol. It's like the lance Armstrong true belie...Lol. It's like the lance Armstrong true believers haves moved on to defending Aaron.<br /><br />http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2012/08/29/does-this-prove-that-hank-aaron-was-juicing/<br /><br />Everybody always says Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens played their best baseball towards the end of their careers and that must be proof they were cheating. Well, the same can be said for Hammerin’ Hank. Aaron’s HR percentage started to increase the older he got. Home run percentage is defined as being the number of home runs per 100 at bats and Aaron saw his highest percentage at age 39 where he hit 40 home runs in 1973. In fact Aaron led the National League in home run percentage in three consecutive years late in his career at ages 37, 38 and 39.<br /><br />Read the exact break down HERE.<br /><br />Again, if you don’t want to read it, all you really need to know is that Aaron was not the only player on the Braves in ’73 that saw crazy home run percentages. Former Tiger Darrell Evans and Davey Johnson did as well only to see those numbers return to normal the following year, a year after a Congressional Committee issued its final report stating that anabolic steroids were rampant in baseball. Johnson later went on to manage the 1996 Orioles, a team that set, at the time the record for long balls in a season. That year Brady Anderson hit 50 homers, a campaign for the centerfielder that was viewed as very suspicious.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1288740294696769352012-10-31T19:14:13.976-07:002012-10-31T19:14:13.976-07:00Do blacks juice more than Y-T?
No, but the effect...<i>Do blacks juice more than Y-T?</i><br /><br />No, but the effects are greater for them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-72713876587653871682012-10-31T18:15:13.013-07:002012-10-31T18:15:13.013-07:00Hank Aaron was 6'0" and 180 lbs. Those di...Hank Aaron was 6'0" and 180 lbs. Those dimensions don't really suggest steroid use. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-86767728309008335272012-10-31T18:13:16.481-07:002012-10-31T18:13:16.481-07:00Aaron HR's over 35 are skewed by the fact that...Aaron HR's over 35 are skewed by the fact that he moved from Milwaukee ( a bad HR park) to Atlanta (a bandbox by comparison). He also benefited from the '69 expansion and by concentrating on HR's as opposed to overall slugging/batting average.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-58615717880346915262012-10-31T17:03:34.384-07:002012-10-31T17:03:34.384-07:00Uhh, you mis-spelled "f*cked up" - there...Uhh, you mis-spelled "f*cked up" - there's an asterisk between the "f" and the "c".<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-81081494638324213412012-10-31T16:58:21.792-07:002012-10-31T16:58:21.792-07:00Hank Aaron had his best power year at age 39.
No,...Hank Aaron had his best power year at age 39.<br /><br />No, he didn't. For power, 1973 was his 8th best season.<br />------<br /><br />You're right. He was 37 in his best power year. Ether way, non roided players don't maintain their prime through their late 30s.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-5672252788598808052012-10-31T16:43:39.859-07:002012-10-31T16:43:39.859-07:00Also of note: Incidentally the fastest player in M...Also of note: Incidentally the fastest player in MLB right now is a white outfielder for the Cubs named Tony Campana. Unfortunately, he has no power whatsoever and doesn't get on base enough to be anything more than a fourth OF.<br /><br />And for those of you really interested in baseball speed, next year the Reds will be calling up a shortstop (now CF) named Billy Hamilton who stole 155 bases in 132 games last year in the minors. It's been a long time since anyone challenged Rickey Henderson's single season record of 130, but this kid will surely have a chance given sufficient playing time.<br /><br />Mr Lomezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07043467547490085497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-79748194387219403522012-10-31T15:38:27.989-07:002012-10-31T15:38:27.989-07:00"Hank Aaron had his best power year at age 39..."Hank Aaron had his best power year at age 39."<br /><br />Hank Aaron was 165 lbs. when he began, and 180 when he retired.Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-75485667023018236792012-10-31T15:02:52.852-07:002012-10-31T15:02:52.852-07:00Do blacks juice more than Y-T?Do blacks juice more than Y-T?joshnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-54794958916270057932012-10-31T12:12:34.795-07:002012-10-31T12:12:34.795-07:00It's not "happenstance" Tyrone Terre...It's not "happenstance" Tyrone Terrell is more concerned about how white the Timberwolves are than he is about how fucked up his "community" is.C. Van Carterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09918883799053031223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-39603618047155907762012-10-31T11:18:12.985-07:002012-10-31T11:18:12.985-07:00Hank Aaron had his best power year at age 39.
No,...<i>Hank Aaron had his best power year at age 39.</i><br /><br />No, he didn't. For power, 1973 was his 8th best season. helene edwardsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-73418901954052048912012-10-31T10:52:02.070-07:002012-10-31T10:52:02.070-07:00Juicing in the NBA and the NFL? AbsolutelyJuicing in the NBA and the NFL? AbsolutelyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-63511248414984695762012-10-31T10:46:08.626-07:002012-10-31T10:46:08.626-07:00Steroids are a part of life. Old folks like you an...Steroids are a part of life. Old folks like you and me can remember when that wasn't so, but looking forward I see nothing but juiced athletes everywhere forever.<br /><br />How can you tell is an athlete is juicing? Look to the winner's stand.<br /><br />Your continuing distress over steroids is like the Women's Temperance Union's distress over the end of Prohibition. <br /><br />Albertosaurus<br /><br />Pat Boylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13477950851915567863noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-46048650321325639072012-10-31T10:39:37.599-07:002012-10-31T10:39:37.599-07:00Usually I read all the comments to avoid repeating...Usually I read all the comments to avoid repeating the same observation. But this time I'm pretty sure that no one else will make this particular observation.<br /><br />I think you're right about the greater athletic longevity of blacks. I remember Allison very well. I'm a little surprised that you didn't mention that Jackson is also the all time strike out leader. His bargain with life seemed to have been a home run or a strike out. That's not the strategy of a man who is fast on the bases. It's more like that of an old designated hitter hitter whose legs have gone. I'd always assumed that Jackson was slow.<br /><br />But I digress.<br /><br />In opera it has always seemed to me that black singers lose their voices earlier than whites. This would be the opposite of what you posit in baseball. <br /><br />The vocal apparatus is proximal while your base ball speed is distal. Ontogenetically we tend to grow from the head down and we also tend to age from the feet up. Maybe that means something in regards to the races.<br /><br />I heard Leontyne Price late in her career and also Renata Tebaldi. Price, Reri Grist, and Simon Estes all had relatively short careers. Vinson Cole and George Shirley also lost their voices relatively early.<br /><br />I correspond with a white baritone in South Africa who teaches young black singers and one of my closest friends in an active opera director here. I have mentioned the shorter active span of black singers to them. They don't deny it.<br /><br />I'm not sure I'm right about this. Maybe I should do some systematic measurements.<br /><br />AlbertosaurusPat Boylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13477950851915567863noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-26419498729655165852012-10-31T09:09:32.345-07:002012-10-31T09:09:32.345-07:00One of the most suspicious pre-Canseco players was...One of the most suspicious pre-Canseco players was Brian Downing, who went from being a pudgy, weak hitting catcher to being a muscular, slugging outfielder after the White Sox traded him to the Angels in 1978 for Bobby Bonds, of all people! Bill Veecknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-91508368656585917512012-10-31T06:30:58.110-07:002012-10-31T06:30:58.110-07:00I didn't read the whole article, but this is w...I didn't read the whole article, but this is whack. First in importance, fans want to win. They don't much care what the players look like as long as their team wins. And secondly, fans like it when the players stick around for awhile and become part of the local family. And again, it doesn't matter their color or anything else as long as they have a good attitude and give 100% to the team.JInoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-63183814900026035022012-10-31T04:06:10.506-07:002012-10-31T04:06:10.506-07:00How scandalous that there should be so much as a s...How scandalous that there should be so much as a single basketball team where blacks are overrepresented only by 100% and not by 200%, 300% or 400%. Why are the race hustlers never asked what the minimum acceptable factor of black overrepresentation is?Londonernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1190419146501848852012-10-31T03:21:29.155-07:002012-10-31T03:21:29.155-07:00Whiskey said, "Let me add, its long been note...Whiskey said, "Let me add, its long been noted that Black men and women have a resiliency to injury and pain, and have survived physical abuse (such as on sugar plantations) that routinely killed Whites and Asians and Indians."<br /><br />I dunno, based only on the rigorous scientific method of watching the TV show 'Survivor,' I have been surprised at how often heavily muscled mesomorphic blacks have come up short in the endurance and strength departments. Something, based on just their appearance, I would have thought they would overwhelmingly win.Conatushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12543138570489872681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-9460466507872086802012-10-31T01:21:19.323-07:002012-10-31T01:21:19.323-07:00The conventional wisdom is that better all-around ...The conventional wisdom is that better all-around athletes age better than guys with freakish proportions or specialized skills. Also, smaller, leaner, more agile athletes tend to maintain better than their hulkier counterparts (the obvious theory being, their joints just don't break down as fast).<br /><br />On the question of speed decline, I think you're drawing dead if you focus squarely on baseball. Speed in baseball has diminishing returns, and once a baseball player (say in his age 28 season) no longer has the raw speed to steal bases efficiently, he will sacrifice speed to increase his power. This happens all the time. From A-Rod on down to Hanley Ramirez, there are dozens of examples of once elite base-stealers who (through steroids or otherwise) CHOSE a more powerful body over a faster one. I'll wager that the same transformation will happen shortly with Matt Kemp. The point here is that the particular skill-sets valued by modern baseball will lead to an artificial deceleration of an athlete's speed as he ages. As a consequence, any conclusions drawn from baseball will be too muddy to be meaningful.<br /><br />In football, on the other hand, apart from QB and O-Line, footspeed is always at a premium. Unfortunately no study like James' exists for football that I know of, and any such study will suffer from sample size problems. There just aren't enough white skill players to compare to black ones.<br /><br />Basketball also suffers from the sample size problem, but it's pretty clear that body type is the overriding issue re: longevity. Bigger and taller breaks down faster than shorter and leaner.Mr Lomezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07043467547490085497noreply@blogger.com