tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post5442622449395479152..comments2024-03-29T05:14:33.223-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: McCain's Intelligence IntelligenceUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger43125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-65938077036167947222008-07-02T16:48:00.000-07:002008-07-02T16:48:00.000-07:00"And what does everybody think Bush and McCain's I..."And what does everybody think Bush and McCain's IQs are? I've always thought if you're in the running for president in a country of 300 million you've gotta be at least in the top 1%, but for either of these guys I don't see it.<BR/><BR/>McCain finished 894 out of 899 in his Navy class. Bush can't even speak. Do these guys get where they are by just being empty suits that different lobies and interests can fill with whatever they want?"<BR/><BR/>Heh...<BR/>Hehehehehehehehe.<BR/><BR/>Simplistic?<BR/>Yes...<BR/>Has a ring of truth to it?<BR/>Uh-huh...<BR/><BR/>Welcome to American "democracy".AmericanGoyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00865892490752172185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-19594971058704962112008-07-01T07:00:00.000-07:002008-07-01T07:00:00.000-07:00His Vietnam experience makes him a man most suitab...<I>His Vietnam experience makes him a man most suitable to manage American foreign policy.</I><BR/><BR/>You mean John Kerry?<BR/><BR/>How, precisely, does McCain's Vietnam experience make him "a man most suitable to manage American foreign policy?"<BR/><BR/>What do you think of McCain's foreign policy initiatives with Mexico?<BR/><BR/>-Senor DougAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-24207623858648451362008-06-30T11:18:00.000-07:002008-06-30T11:18:00.000-07:00In 2002, the CIA analysts concluded that Saddam ha...In 2002, the CIA analysts concluded that Saddam had only a few scraps left over from his 1980s WMD arsenal. McCain's Neocon advisors concluded that Saddam had a strong and thriving WMD program. In hindsight, we can see that the CIA was essentially correct and the Neocons were dead wrong. It is a shame that Cheney pressured Tenet into overruling his correct analysts.<BR/><BR/>The same was true in the late 1970s with the Soviet threat. The Neocons (Pipes, Wolfowitz, Perle) dramatically overstated the size of the Soviet arsenal, whereas the CIA only slightly overstated it.<BR/><BR/>The fact that the media treated Neocons as credible analysts during the 2003 war debate simply highlights the media's right-wing bias on military issues.<BR/><BR/>Banish the Neocons from public debate, and clean out their brethren from the CIA. Let the CIA can go back to protecting our country.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-6106363862723135872008-06-30T08:18:00.000-07:002008-06-30T08:18:00.000-07:00"I think McCain is mostly a creation of the mass m..."I think McCain is mostly a creation of the mass media."<BR/><BR/> McCAIN is a product of the mass media? McNut he may be, but media creation, I think not.<BR/><BR/>No. He's got solid history and doings behind him. Being brainwashed and mind controlled by the best of the lot sent from Moscow to do the job on the admiral's son. He's seen a lot of action; connected with a lot of faces. <BR/> The one you mean is OBAMA. He's the media creation. Where did this character come from and what the hell did he do? Oh, I know what he is--brown guy with runaway African dad and the typical-white-people-grandmother. But what has he done to deserve all this media sweet talk? He can't even formulate a meaningful phrase without his speechwriter and the wife is a spiked iron around his neck. So why is he touted as the next president? Bizarro world man. The 2 or so people who own the anglophone media want him in bad. Wonder why?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-80461947050553681132008-06-29T10:05:00.000-07:002008-06-29T10:05:00.000-07:00I don't care whether McCain is smart or stupid. I'...I don't care whether McCain is smart or stupid. I'm voting AGAINST Obama and not FOR McCain. That means pushing the button in the voting both that minimize's Obama's chance of being the next president. That button has McCain's name next to it, but it's not a vote FOR McCain, it's a vote AGAINST Obama.<BR/><BR/>I had my opportunity to vote AGAINST McCain in the primaries, and I did. It's over now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-61371735301841105322008-06-29T08:40:00.000-07:002008-06-29T08:40:00.000-07:00I keep reading how McCain is despised in AZ.I also...I keep reading how McCain is despised in AZ.<BR/><BR/>I also keep reading that McCain keeps winning re-election in AZ.<BR/><BR/>McCain is also so depised in the GOP that he won its nomination long before Obama did in his party.<BR/><BR/>I'm obviously missing something here. Oh well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-73152084938114213542008-06-29T06:48:00.000-07:002008-06-29T06:48:00.000-07:00IMO, we'll have an easier time beating back McCain...<I>IMO, we'll have an easier time beating back McCain than Obama. Sole reason I'm voting for him.</I><BR/><BR/>Excellent point. No one would like President McCain - the daggers would be out from Moment Number One. He would face a degree skepticism and resistance that, I think, Obama the Magic Negro would not be confronted with.<BR/><BR/>The only hope for whites is to throw sand in the government's gears, so to speak.<BR/><BR/>Of course, if McCain is so despised, he may have a problem becoming president in the first place...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-53051499401121989482008-06-28T18:23:00.000-07:002008-06-28T18:23:00.000-07:00McCain is despised by his own constituents in Ariz...<I>McCain is despised by his own constituents in Arizona. Despised.</I><BR/><BR/>And Obama is lionized by his constituents in Illinois. Lionized. And I still ain't voting for him.<BR/><BR/>Unless someone as yet silent is planning on jumping into the fray and saving the day, we are in yet another lesser of two evils situation. Another four years of fighting back the idiocy and nation ruining advances of a President who should never have gotten the office. IMO, we'll have an easier time beating back McCain than Obama. Sole reason I'm voting for him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-26112683663153751112008-06-28T17:03:00.000-07:002008-06-28T17:03:00.000-07:00Regarding George Jr., he may going senile prematur...Regarding George Jr., he may going senile prematurely. His coherence and syntax were better when he was younger, as this vid. clip shows:<BR/><BR/><BR/>http://youtube.com/watch?v=NvVilAlCBYcAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-52703741596383683832008-06-28T10:42:00.000-07:002008-06-28T10:42:00.000-07:00Juan McCain is being lionized by some on this boar...Juan McCain is being lionized by some on this board. Why, I don't know.<BR/><BR/>He's just the Republican butt boy of the moment. He's no different than George Bush.<BR/><BR/>Bush is for open borders.<BR/><BR/>McCain is for open borders.<BR/><BR/>Bush is for the war for the Likud Party.<BR/><BR/>Ditto McCain.<BR/><BR/>What is it about McCain that some readers can not grasp?<BR/><BR/>He was anointed by the Necons to continue their agenda.<BR/><BR/>War without end in the Middle East by covert or overt means.<BR/><BR/>And the further dispossession of the native born.<BR/><BR/>Read anything on the immigration related blogs. McCain is despised by his own constituents in Arizona. Despised.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-40045184265606558112008-06-28T10:33:00.000-07:002008-06-28T10:33:00.000-07:00An other anonymous [coward] said..."Read Benbow's ...An other anonymous [coward] said...<BR/>"Read Benbow's 1 in 10000 vs. 1 in 100 paper. <BR/><BR/>http://www.vanderbilt.edu/Peabody/SMPY/Top1in10000"<BR/><BR/>If you try this URL you will be sent back:<BR/><BR/>"Not Found<BR/><BR/>The requested URL /Peabody/SMPY/Top1in10000 was not found on this server."<BR/><BR/>This is the correct URL:<BR/><BR/>[www.vanderbilt.edu/Peabody/SMPY/Top1in10000.pdf]<BR/><BR/>Note: .pdf is needed at the end of the URL.<BR/><BR/>DanDan Kurthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06164801060857631895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-90480015540963570532008-06-28T10:02:00.000-07:002008-06-28T10:02:00.000-07:00black whatever wrote:"All other things being equal...black whatever wrote:<BR/><BR/>"All other things being equal, a higher level of intelligence is always preferable."<BR/><BR/>Great, I'm not one to argue so lets call it a night.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-74811854950349994312008-06-28T01:43:00.000-07:002008-06-28T01:43:00.000-07:00albertosaurus: I grow weary of explaining thi...albertosaurus: <BR/><BR/><I> I grow weary of explaining this over and over. IQ acts like a threshold variable. That is to say below a certain threshold value you cannot function. Above that threshold it is largely irrelevant. </I><BR/><BR/>That is actually completely incorrect and is contradicted by the evidence. Read Benbow's 1 in 10000 vs. 1 in 100 paper. <BR/><BR/>http://www.vanderbilt.edu/Peabody/SMPY/Top1in10000.pdf<BR/><BR/>Long story short, the 1 in 10000 have *much* better outcomes than the 1 in 100 -- e.g. 56% get PhDs vs. 25%, that kind of thing. The hypothesis of a threshold effect does not hold.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-33331356752542939802008-06-27T19:26:00.000-07:002008-06-27T19:26:00.000-07:00Larry Johnson may be an idiot and he was political...Larry Johnson may be an idiot and he was political, but he was never an intel briefer and intel briefers are very different that Johnson.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-80951828721612577582008-06-27T16:06:00.000-07:002008-06-27T16:06:00.000-07:00I grow weary of explaining this over and over. IQ ...I grow weary of explaining this over and over. IQ acts like a threshold variable. That is to say below a certain threshold value you cannot function. Above that threshold it is largely irrelevant.<BR/><BR/>IQ has great predictive power for populations. It is missused for predictions about a single individual - assuming that individual is above the relevant threshold.<BR/><BR/>If IQ scores alone were important for individuals then a company seeking a CEO should just choose the one who got the highest score on a stadard test. There would be no need to hold interviews. <BR/><BR/>Would you choose a antisocial nerd with an IQ of 170 over a candidate with a solid business track record who only scored 130?<BR/><BR/>An IQ test is an appropriate tool for a first screening. Those who are smart enough are then judged on other criteria.<BR/><BR/>The average American CEo has an MBA and an IQ of about 125-130. That's George Bush. There are no CEOs with IQ of 85. On the other hand above the threshold of about 125-130 there is no correlation between IQ and excutive performance that anyone has ever measured.<BR/><BR/>IQ isn't the only personality trait its just the most important one. In a group of people all of whom are bright, IQ may not be very important at all. Other qualities like energy, integrity and leadership take over.<BR/><BR/>Bush was smart enough to be President. It is estimated that JFK had an IQ that was similar or perhaps a bit lower than Bush's. JFK had invincible charm but was a rather weak character. Bush is very strong interpersonally but fumbles in front of a microphone. Its hard to imagine Bush getting intimidated and humiliated by Kruschev the way JFK was.<BR/><BR/>Nixon was probably smarter than Reagan but Nixon was troubled by unfair criticism and Reagan wasn't. A thick skin has nothing to do with IQ but it can be very important in a public office.<BR/><BR/>McCain is smart enough to be President as is Obama.albertosaurushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13209465319904999278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-13255343920455033002008-06-27T15:49:00.000-07:002008-06-27T15:49:00.000-07:00So McCain doesn't know much about Islam. Who do yo...So McCain doesn't know much about Islam. <BR/><BR/>Who do you want as Commander in Chief? Someone who knows about modern wars and weapons or someone who can tell you all about the Battle of Karbala, and the events before and after?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-63802848811196927892008-06-27T13:34:00.000-07:002008-06-27T13:34:00.000-07:00"No where in the world do people like eggheads. Bu..."No where in the world do people like eggheads. But I think here in America in particular there's a very strong anti-intellectual bent. Just look at all the hero worship of boneheaded football and basketball players. Anyone who so much as wears glasses here is regarded with extreme suspicion. I think this is especially true in the Southern states, so any Republican who is running needs to do well there, and prove that they're no smarter than a deer hunting redneck from Texas."<BR/><BR/>I don't blame the southerners for that, since in America high IQ seems to be correlated with hatred of them.<BR/><BR/>I agree with what you all said about high IQ not being the same as wisdom. One of the most disappointing things in my life has been going to college and seeing what militantly politically correct the intelligent are. I once asked a cultural anthropology teacher, the kind who reads Focault and Marx, if he was aware of Steven Pinker's "The Blank Slate";this guy believed in 100% enviornment. I assumed that if he spent twenty years teaching that race and gender were social constructs he'd at least seek out the arguments of the other side and have a good answer for them. <BR/><BR/>You know what he told me? "I'm not an expert in genetics." Can you believe that?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-43616330878522649052008-06-27T13:15:00.000-07:002008-06-27T13:15:00.000-07:00If Gore has an IQ of 134, his dismal educational r...If Gore has an IQ of 134, his dismal educational record suggest some profound weakness of character.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-82412974237954062122008-06-27T10:13:00.000-07:002008-06-27T10:13:00.000-07:00I checked the AEI web site and they are indeed neo...I checked the AEI web site and they are indeed neo-cons to the bone. I mean Gertrude Himmelfarb?? The good news is they are seeking an editorial assistant. Any one in need of work? I have a feeling busines will be good for the AEI in the next few years...PS:I am not voting for McCain. I don think he knows what he's doing. The surge was good,how could a massive influx of troops and bribes not help to some degree??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-5170535334396822172008-06-27T09:54:00.000-07:002008-06-27T09:54:00.000-07:00The emphasis on intelligence is beside the point. ...The emphasis on intelligence is beside the point. It takes little intelligence to understand Iraq. McCain cant tell the difference between Shia and Sunni after five years of the Iraq war. An ignoramus has no business as commander in chief.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-49003863133276876962008-06-27T09:18:00.000-07:002008-06-27T09:18:00.000-07:00Steve,You keep alluding to McCain's standing at An...Steve,<BR/><BR/>You keep alluding to McCain's standing at Annapolis with respect to his IQ. It was so low because he collected bad conduct demerits like a badge of honor. From an Amazon description of THE NIGHTINGALE'S SONG, a book about his Annapolis class:<BR/><BR/>"He treated the system throughout his four years like a hostile organism, something to beat back, keep at bay, as if any compromise meant surrendering a part of himself that he might never retrieve. John McCain at Annapolis, however, was not the John McCain of Episcopal days. He shed the punk image and became one of the most popular midshipmen in his class, if one of the least conventional.<BR/><BR/>He proved to be a natural leader, his magnetic personality making him the unofficial trail boss for a lusty band of carousers and partygoers known as the Bad Bunch. "People kind of gravitated to him," said Chuck Larson. "They would respond to his lead. They pretty much cared about his approval and they cared about what he thought." Larson, an ex-officio member of the Bad Bunch, was McCain's closest friend at the Academy and for some years after. They were known as the Odd Couple, McCain short, scrappy, the consummate screwup, Larson the model midshipman, tall, handsome, smooth, bright. They shared a sense of the absurd and an eye for the ladies. Larson, though, was cautious. Of course, he had more to be cautious about. McCain didn't know what the word meant. As one classmate put it, being on liberty with John McCain was like being in a train wreck."<BR/><BR/>Sounds like a fun dude.<BR/><BR/>I agree w/Testing 99 about intel guys. They are mostly dopes.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06559830693993775055noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-91206607196220750472008-06-27T08:32:00.000-07:002008-06-27T08:32:00.000-07:00Anonymous: Poor showing, gentlemen.You left out th...<B>Anonymous:</B> <I>Poor showing, gentlemen.</I><BR/><BR/>You left out the guy who dissed all those redneck <A HREF="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LwGt9d1-lU" REL="nofollow">dear hunters</A>.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-29852975029788498232008-06-27T07:17:00.000-07:002008-06-27T07:17:00.000-07:00I just want to send kudos to Steve for turning the...I just want to send kudos to Steve for turning the same jaundiced eye on McCain that he has directed at Obama for months. I read this blog in part because I'm not an easily defined conservative or liberal and I was starting to find the continuous Obama bashing tiring simply because it was starting to sound partisan.Michael Carr - Veritas Literaryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04017030835398885411noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-84496942224914249292008-06-27T06:46:00.000-07:002008-06-27T06:46:00.000-07:00Chuck Schumer and Eliot Spitzer got perfect SAT sc...<I>Chuck Schumer and Eliot Spitzer got perfect SAT scores of 1600 when young. Their high IQ only helped them be evil geniuses, the kind Superman comics had</I><BR/><BR/>Also, Richard Nixon and Jimmy Carter both supposedly had pretty high IQs. A lot of good it did them.Seamushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10065227784774273923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-51111664012219559352008-06-27T04:45:00.000-07:002008-06-27T04:45:00.000-07:00Anyone who was worked in DC at the policy level ha...Anyone who was worked in DC at the policy level has meet political appointees who can remember every briefing and policy paper they have ever seen. They are the obsessive-complusive types who make great under-secretaries. <BR/><BR/>McCain is obviously not in that category. It is obvious that his staff does not work hard in preparation and that Senator McCain is both too lazy to work hard in preparation and too stupid to understand what his is being told. <BR/><BR/>Senator McCain has demonstrated on numerous occasions that he does not have the skills to be president. However, anyone who has ever met a fighter pilot would be able to realize this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com