tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post5460084334917510620..comments2024-03-19T02:31:02.140-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: Patton Oswalt: "Political correctness is a war on noticing."Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger92125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-3881478554683269422014-02-05T08:12:11.741-08:002014-02-05T08:12:11.741-08:00Patton Oswalt takes a funny shot at urban hipsters...Patton Oswalt takes a funny shot at urban hipsters for loving diversity in theory and and being terrified of it in practice in this chat with Jerry Seinfeld in this segment of Seinfeld's web series, <i>Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee</i>:<br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eh0S0PBUgDs" rel="nofollow">Patton Oswalt: How Would You Kill Superman? Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee</a><br /><br />Seinfeld himself stands up to the whiners and bullies who complain that his choice of guests for the series lacks diversity:<br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsEr6xNN8Hw" rel="nofollow">Jerry Seinfeld On Diversity In Comedy: "Who Cares? Are You Making Us Laugh Or Are You Not?" </a>Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04017589590769465615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-72623519639981656062014-01-27T14:59:15.735-08:002014-01-27T14:59:15.735-08:00"I've always wanted to hear [Louis CK'..."I've always wanted to hear [Louis CK's] observations on the Mexican ruling class"<br /><br />It would be interesting. They seem to maintain pretty heavy ties to Europe.<br /><br /><a href="http://i.imgur.com/DdyZ4Tk.jpg" rel="nofollow"> Here</a> is Mexican citizen Prince Hubertus of Hohenlohe-Langenburg in his quirky ski outfit at Sochi. According to wikipedia he's the son of Prince Alfonso Maximiliano Victorio Eugenio Alexandro María Pablo de la Santísima Trinidad y Todos los Santos zu Hohenlohe-Langenburg (allow me to catch my breath).<br /><br />I remember some post you made awhile back displaying rich Mexicans' atrocious taste in interior decor. I imagine those people were some kind of New Money, analogous to The Real Housewives Orange County, rather than elites with well-established aristocratic pedigree.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-71559542242455280872014-01-26T17:55:11.152-08:002014-01-26T17:55:11.152-08:00Faulkner included a semi-magic negro in Go Down, M...Faulkner included a semi-magic negro in Go Down, Moses.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-42424305790806266142014-01-26T16:38:26.295-08:002014-01-26T16:38:26.295-08:00"I can't think of a magic negro before th..."I can't think of a magic negro before that, but there's been scores of them since, opening a cottage industry of sorts for black actors."<br /><br />Uncle Tom's Cabin.<br /><br />Tragic Magic Negro.<br /><br />http://www.postpoliosupport.com/images/Jackson.01.gif<br /><br />Joe Louis.<br /><br />MLK.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-86292541915821977662014-01-26T11:14:04.358-08:002014-01-26T11:14:04.358-08:00Anon, I don't know, but I do know King has wor...Anon, I don't know, but I do know King has worked pretty hard on it. I haven't even read that much King, and I know of four prominent magic negroes in his work: The Shining, The Stand, The Green Mile, and Drawing of the Three. In fact, I'd argue that he doesn't deal in magic negroes, but instead considers negroes to be magical.<br /><br />Svigornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-28053218100025338032014-01-26T08:56:52.569-08:002014-01-26T08:56:52.569-08:00" Anonymous said...
What does he mean by..." Anonymous said...<br /><br /> What does he mean by 'objectively' racist, sexist, etc? That Steve develops his racist, sexist views by objectively evaluating the evidence? Or that anyone reading isteve will objectively conclude that Steve is racist, sexist, etc. "<br /><br />Yeah, I noticed that too. My guess? It is a verbal tick or short hand, like, say, "late stage capitalism", and derives from leftist academic writing (if that is not an oxymoron at this point), and serves to identify the speaker as educated in the right way (status marker) and to shut down debate by identifying the target as outside of the bounds of orthodox thought and, therefore, a heretic. <br /><br />Which is really what PC is all about, really -- enforcing the current set of orthodox cultural beliefs, e.g., the numinosity of the "Other", denial of HBD and it's consequences and the resulting ill fated schemes to ameliorate problems that are not, contrary to the prevailing orthodox narrative, caused by the utter degeneracy (original sin) of evil White Folks. It is the PC orthodoxy that enables the Elite, as Leftist Conservative astutely pointed out in another thread, to treat us like cattle in their grand experiment.<br /><br />Of course, instead of Dominicans enforcing orthodoxy we get the Twidiots of the world, like Heather, who confuse the indoctrination they received with an actual education; in addition, the Inquisition burned relatively few heretics (and did not start with heretic being put to the question or burned - it was 3 stage process); and, importantly, the accused could always admit error and accept lesser punishment, i.e, confinement, pilgrimage, or other form of atonement. Ultimately, he would be allowed back into the church. After all, the point was to save the soul of the heretic and the Dominicans took that stuff seriously. <br /><br />In contrast, the PC Inquisition <br />immolates all who come before it in the form of ostracism from acceptable society with the commensurate loss of career, income, respect, etc. - and NO amount of contrition, apology, or previous dedication to and promulgation of PC orthodoxy, will suffice to halt the auto-de-fe and to quench the flames. And that, really, is a, heh, "objective" weakness in the current mechanism by which PC orthodoxy is enforced, especially against public figures. As there is no chance to escape, the best tactic is, *not* to apologize, which is, if you read between the lines, what Patton did. <br /><br />It is just a thought, but it seems to me the current PC enforcement techniques, lacking nuance, and run by the Heathers of the world, is weak around the seams, and *may* not be enough in the long run to preserve the existing order. <br /><br />SO, heck, who knows, maybe the Reformation comes early this time around.Just Another Guy With a 1911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-73959689750643789922014-01-25T20:16:35.430-08:002014-01-25T20:16:35.430-08:00Patton was (maybe still is) a regular on Jim Goad&...Patton was (maybe still is) a regular on Jim Goad's forum which is frequented by all sorts of unsavory, politically questionable characters. He seemed to be a good liberal himself, but his associations are suspect.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-43369455069402530992014-01-25T19:29:03.989-08:002014-01-25T19:29:03.989-08:00What is most interesting here is that Oswalt stood...What is most interesting here is that Oswalt stood by his endorsement of the quote while acknowldging the context: I.e. he knows what stuff Sailed is noticing. So implicitly he's also acknowledging the truth of the things the PC police make war on. My expectation is that the usual cultural enforcers don't see any profit in crucifying Oswalt over this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-68420478736811792352014-01-25T18:47:14.835-08:002014-01-25T18:47:14.835-08:00The sin isn't niticing, it's acknowledging...The sin isn't niticing, it's acknowledging. Heather probably uses a heuristic for deciding if a neighborhood is safe to walk around in after dark that would be familiar to any Steve Sailer reader, but she would be embarrassed to describe it out loud. <br /><br />I imagine every society has had things that lots of people knew or suspected, but which simply couldn't be said without offending people. We seem to be wired to know what the "party line" is and to never stray too far from it. In US society, the party line is largely determined by what people say on TV--both in fiction and in various kinds of talk shows. I think it's hard to overstate the impact of the modeling of the "right" way to think and respond that happens on news and sports talk shows. (And probably celebrity scandal talk shows and Oprah type shows, but I don't know that much about them.). <br /><br />Ideas that are often said and seldom challenged on TV seem reasonable, even when they're nuts, or horribly evil. Ideas that are seldom said and always challenged on TV seem unreasonable or obviously wrong or crazy, even when they're right. <br /><br />And which ideas fall into which category has little to do with right or wrong or reason or evidence. Instead, that's determined by messy political and social forces that have little to do with careful reasoning of anything.<br />NOTAnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-64872900807944800592014-01-25T18:16:20.307-08:002014-01-25T18:16:20.307-08:00Oswalt has always been one of my favorite standups...Oswalt has always been one of my favorite standups. Of course he's a lefty but what high profile cultural figure isn't? To express a right wing view on anything is to be targeted for career annihilation: condemned, ridiculed and marginalized. So I give him a little credit for standing by his guns.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-44045603503898807272014-01-25T17:40:12.551-08:002014-01-25T17:40:12.551-08:00Svigor said...
"It would've been interes...Svigor said...<br /><br />"It would've been interesting to see how King's approach to blacks in his work might've changed if he'd actually met some."<br /><br />Was Stephen King the originator of "the magic negro," as portrayed in "The Shining?"<br /><br />I can't think of a magic negro before that, but there's been scores of them since, opening a cottage industry of sorts for black actors.<br /><br />I mean the ethereal archetypes as played by Morgan Freeman and others, not the Bugs Bunny types as portrayed in Blazing Saddles and most Eddie Murphy movies.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-4780697533256479742014-01-25T16:29:32.566-08:002014-01-25T16:29:32.566-08:00It's interesting that in the face of the Twitt...It's interesting that in the face of the Twitter swarm attack, Oswalt basically said "yes, I know who I was quoting, and I stand by what I said." <br /><br />...and people seem to be moving on instead of doubling down with outraged articles in the Gawker-Salon-Slate-Buzzfeed axis of P.C. enforcement. <br /><br />Is it because Oswalt is considered a good guy by lefties, so this is being dismissed as an anomaly? <br /><br />Or is something else happening?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-83476463709727386312014-01-25T11:09:32.983-08:002014-01-25T11:09:32.983-08:00Since when does Sailer weep holding a tiny little ...<i>Since when does Sailer weep holding a tiny little mouse?</i><br /><br />It would've been interesting to see how King's approach to blacks in his work might've changed if he'd actually met some.<br /><br /><i>How did he find the quote?</i><br /><br />Not sure what path he traveled to find it, but it was probably racist.<br /><br /><i>only the men at the microphone can.</i><br /><br />Whiskey is currently dreaming up a way to throw you and yours under the bus to punish you for saying that.<br /><br /><i>Stephen King is agreeing with Oswalt's tweet about Hunger Games being derivative of Running Man and The Long Walk, as if he has any business complaining about being derivative.</i><br /><br />Let's just say King's approach to blacks is like a caricature of a caricature of a caricature of a milquetoast sixties boomer, except presented in earnest; sight unseen, my money'd never be on him agreeing with anything but PC.<br /><br />1/24/14, 5:29 PM<br /><br />Told you. Offering an explanation with more predictive power is a no-no. Pulling back the curtain on Oz is a no-no.<br /><br /><i>It sounds like PROTOCOLS OF THE ELDERS OF THE MILITARY. It was a totally paranoid view of American power, rather odd coming from liberals who so often pontificated about the 'paranoia' of the Red Scare years. It's amusing how liberal bitch and whine about the paranoia of the American right, but they are really the most paranoid people on earth.</i><br /><br />Ever read Yggdrasil's review of <i>Strangelove</i>? He makes Kubrick's paranoia make sense. Of course, in so doing, he make's Ripper's paranoia make more sense, too.Svigornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-60498961398972347882014-01-25T11:06:32.851-08:002014-01-25T11:06:32.851-08:00What does he mean by 'objectively' racist,...What does he mean by 'objectively' racist, sexist, etc? That Steve develops his racist, sexist views by objectively evaluating the evidence? Or that anyone reading isteve will objectively conclude that Steve is racist, sexist, etc. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-81066640612461447592014-01-25T10:48:59.260-08:002014-01-25T10:48:59.260-08:00Yes Anon 3:04 by all means DO NOT NOTICE the PC sc...<i>Yes Anon 3:04 by all means DO NOT NOTICE the PC screeching</i><br /><br />That is pretty rich coming from you. 'Do not notice' sums you up to a tee.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-70786871880048233862014-01-25T10:46:56.345-08:002014-01-25T10:46:56.345-08:00But then, then the hateful shit in Sailer's ar...<i>But then, then the hateful shit in Sailer's article isn't directed at you, is it? It's just ideas you can ignore.</i><br /><br />But then, the hateful shit permeating the entire culture isn't directed at non-"white 'gentile' males," is it? It's just stuff lefties can ignore.<br /><br /><i>Oh fuck, I read the articles comments section. WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH ME???</i><br /><br />"Shit! Shit! I noticed! I noticed! Wash my eyeballs...waaasshh maahh eyeballlllls!"Svigornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-20931358931779975972014-01-25T10:38:24.950-08:002014-01-25T10:38:24.950-08:00Probably the umpteenth poster to note that the sma...Probably the umpteenth poster to note that the smart subversive in Oswalt's position will continue to quote Sailer, but praise him with faint damnation. A fun one is to speak the truth, but in a mocking, sarcastic, or ironic tone.Svigornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-83219088432114388682014-01-25T09:21:08.851-08:002014-01-25T09:21:08.851-08:00If Steve can be "objectively racist" etc...If Steve can be "objectively racist" etc. Does not the objective adjective imply that he is correct in the views he holds--at least in Heather's universe. So if his views are correct that racism, homophobia, etc don't exist. I know I'm confused. <br /><br />I've always thought twitter was an enormous joke played upon everyone who used it. Has anyone ever heard twitter used to indicate something deep, profound, or meaningful. How the hell do you sign up for that unless you are someone who is willing to leap into reflexive superficial reactions to the "hot" topics of the moment or the "hot spots" that galvanize a cat or dog into frantic scratching. <br /><br />I think I'll reserve my superficiality to the comments sections of assorted and sundry blogs.<br />Steven Wilsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11430645803810847730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-9121458040687746882014-01-25T08:17:51.194-08:002014-01-25T08:17:51.194-08:00In retrospect, it appears McCarthy's main sin ...In retrospect, it appears McCarthy's main sin was not paranoia--though there was some of that--but his noticing of red infiltration of America. <br /><br />How dare he notice. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-78598278917901757782014-01-25T07:50:01.091-08:002014-01-25T07:50:01.091-08:00i wonder how long it will be until oswalt begs for...i wonder how long it will be until oswalt begs for forgiveness . Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-65232292196613068422014-01-25T05:29:48.196-08:002014-01-25T05:29:48.196-08:00"Heather - I mean, Sailer is pretty objective...<em>"Heather - I mean, Sailer is pretty objectively racist, sexist, homophobic and transphobic."</em><br /><br />"Pretty objectively" is an interesting choice of weasel words. Someone could black-knight by pretending to be a liberal and hammering her for equivocating with "pretty." What, Heather, you're not <em>sure</em> that Sailer is those things? You don't trust the judgment of the SPLC? Are you <em>really</em> one of the Good People? What unfortunate views are <em>you</em> hiding, hmm, Heather? Don't be scared; a quick trip to the Education Center and you'll be right as rain and happier than ever.Cail Corishevhttp://cailcorishev.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-68629726151886460052014-01-25T02:14:01.179-08:002014-01-25T02:14:01.179-08:00From trying to read your mangled copypaste of the ...From trying to read your mangled copypaste of the Twitter feed--what a boon to civilization that website turned out to be--I can see that Oswalt (I think) was both affirming your sentiment and aware of the context, i.e. not being ironic. But it's a pretty surprising source of backup... Not as surprising as Grantland posting something that maybe finally provokes reaction to PC theology (however accidentally)Alcalde Jaime Miguel Curleohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11801154986193443160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-50680292428725164822014-01-25T02:07:14.247-08:002014-01-25T02:07:14.247-08:00What the hell is going on hereWhat the hell is going on hereAlcalde Jaime Miguel Curleohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11801154986193443160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-25583195312772645292014-01-24T22:03:50.555-08:002014-01-24T22:03:50.555-08:00http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/201...<br />http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2014/01/strangelove-for-real.html<br /><br />New Yorker is missing the larger point. While the president wasn't the only one who was authorized to use nukes in a time of grave emergency, it was highly unlikely that the US military was filled with a cabal of lunatics who wanted to blow up the world because of... fluoride in the water. It sounds like PROTOCOLS OF THE ELDERS OF THE MILITARY. It was a totally paranoid view of American power, rather odd coming from liberals who so often pontificated about the 'paranoia' of the Red Scare years. It's amusing how liberal bitch and whine about the paranoia of the American right, but they are really the most paranoid people on earth. <br /><br />According to liberals, it was 'irrational' and 'paranoid' for conservatives in the 40s and 50s to fear communist infiltration, but it was totally sane and rational for liberals to panic about 'right-wing' generals blowing up the world in a nuclear holocaust in WWIII? A liberal also made THE DAY AFTER to spread fear about Reagan bringing upon armageddon. Liberas love to scare monger, but they hated the Red Scare because it exposed a lot of spies and fellow travelers. <br />There were many Soviet agents in the US government during FDR's presidency and Truman yrs, indeed to the point where American nuclear secrets were smuggled to Stalin by the Rosenbergs. Stalin killed 20 million but American leftists armed him with the ultimate weapon to threaten America and Western Europe with. <br /><br />And the Cuban Missile Crisis had the Soviet Union planting nukes close to the US. During the Crisis, Che Guevara wanted to provoke a US invasion so that nukes could be fired at Miami and NY.<br />These Liberals want to start WWIII with Russia over 'gay marriage', but they call others 'extreme' and 'hysterical'. If war it must be, I'd rather fight over fluoride than homo marches. <br /><br />Despite the Cuban Missile Crisis and the communist Oswald's murder of JFK, American liberals's biggest obsession in the 60s was about American generals blowing up the world over fluoride in the water. Liberals are funny that way. They whine endlessly about the 'paranoia' of anti-communist red scare, but they have no problem with believing the worst about 'rightwing' American generals or in some vast conspiracy killed Kennedy when, in fact, the killer was a communist named Oswald whose mind was warped by the ideas disseminated by American radicals in places like NY.<br /><br />And never mind liberals made president some guy who used to hang with Ayers and Wright. <br /><br />Not that conservatives are better, playing whore to creep Adelson who says to nuke Iran. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-48626030446937536442014-01-24T22:02:22.193-08:002014-01-24T22:02:22.193-08:00many people came to your blog because you mentione...many people came to your blog because you mentioned bill simmons?john marzanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08036820667908976630noreply@blogger.com