tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post559262559275813184..comments2024-03-29T05:14:33.223-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: Barone: "The End of the Wave"Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger70125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-88828815768399890812012-12-11T18:33:15.707-08:002012-12-11T18:33:15.707-08:00"Somalis were mentioned in this thread. Does ..."Somalis were mentioned in this thread. Does anyone know anything about them? How they act, and how they do in school?"<br /><br />Somalia - or at least bits of it - is still in the state of permanent clan warfare that most populations left centuries or millenia ago.<br /><br />Black gangbangers complain about how violent they are.<br /><br />.<br />"Really I don't think welfare is the factor as people make it out."<br /><br />Most illegal immigrants come for the jobs and stay for the welfare.<br /><br />There are exceptions though who go straight into crime, welfare or crime and welfare.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-70066024542134194142012-12-11T16:51:56.986-08:002012-12-11T16:51:56.986-08:00Barone is a really smart guy who is extremely well...Barone is a really smart guy who is extremely well informed. Yeah, Barone's immigration book of a decade ago was pretty bad, as I pointed out at length, but he's since moved quite a ways toward my position, which speaks well of him. <br /><br /> Steve Sailerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11920109042402850214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-20036629041863556162012-12-11T16:48:40.418-08:002012-12-11T16:48:40.418-08:00Brief anecdote about those wonderful somalis.
I k...Brief anecdote about those wonderful somalis.<br /><br />I know someone who had a relative die after a brief stay in intensive care. Realizing that there wouldn't be a good outcome, the family made the obviously difficult decision to end life support.<br /><br />What does this have to do with somalis? While I visiting the hospital I happened to walk by a room with an elderly somali person, unconscious. I also noted the hospital had signs in what I presume was the language of somalis.<br /><br />I'm wondering 1) just how long had that guy been there, 2) who was paying for it, 3) and just how often had immigrant somalis shown up in ICU so that the hospital felt the need to post signs in that language?<br /><br />No actually, I suspect I know the answers. What I'd really like to know is why the XXXX I'm supposed to get a warm fuzzy about getting yoked into tax-servitude to support foreigners who can't pay their medical bills and like to return to the old country to fight in the jihad.<br /><br />I'm ain't happy about that, obviously.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-32621844130747212772012-12-11T16:44:25.439-08:002012-12-11T16:44:25.439-08:00Can there possibly be a less desirable group of pe...Can there possibly be a less desirable group of people to have as newcomers anywhere on the face of the planet earth then Somalians?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-43583529651373348402012-12-11T16:43:31.713-08:002012-12-11T16:43:31.713-08:00I don't think Barone's a "shill"...<i>I don't think Barone's a "shill" at all. I think he's been wrong about some things but it bothers him that he's been wrong and he admits when he's been wrong....even agonizes about how he misinterpreted data or failed to consider this or that</i> <br /><br /><br /><i>The New Americans</i> was the work of a man who started with his preferred conclusion and sledgehammered the evidence into shape around it. And ignored all the unsightly signs that he had done so. It was an apology for and a celebration of immigration, not a sober and judicious examination of the topic.<br /><br />For example, he started the clock running for African-Americans to assimilate to the American main-stream in the 1940's. Why? No good reason really. He just needed some explanation for why, a century and half after slavery ended, they are still so dysfunctional, relative to other Americans. So he made up a "rule" under which they still have a few decades more to assimilate.<br /><br />His "rule" for the Irish was that they became assimilated when they started voting equally for both political parties, in the 1980's. All right, fair enough. But he pronounced the Jews as fully assimilated even though they still fall well short of the standard he set for the Irish! The book is full of examples like this where he not only makes logical errors, he fails to even apply his faulty logic consistently and evenhandedly to all the ethnic groups he examines.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-54247530276220472772012-12-11T11:07:35.969-08:002012-12-11T11:07:35.969-08:00Re Somalis,how they act and how they do in school:...Re Somalis,how they act and how they do in school: What do you think,Einstein??joshnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-14762726445597695882012-12-11T08:50:25.570-08:002012-12-11T08:50:25.570-08:00On the other hand, it's easier to move to a ne...On the other hand, it's easier to move to a nearby country than a faraway one, so if Mexico is no longer a major immigration source, immigration to the United States overall would be expected to fall significantly in any case.<br /><br />I think the TFR of a country 20 years ago is a much more useful indicator of immigration flows, especially for nearby countries. Over the next 20 years, immigration from Guatemala and Haiti might increase, and Honduras, El Salvador, Nicaragua, and the Dominican Republic will remain at about their current levels, but for all other countries, it should fall, as it already has for most ex-British Caribbean islands.corvinusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-58945373277308616842012-12-11T08:21:37.875-08:002012-12-11T08:21:37.875-08:00The Census estimates the number of foreign born La...The Census estimates the number of foreign born Latin-Americans. <br /><br />2010 21.2 miljon<br />2000 16.1 miljon<br />1990 8.4 miljon<br />1980 4.4 miljon<br /><br />between 2007 and 2011, the number of foreign-born Mexicans stood still. However Latin-Americans as a whole continued to increase.<br /><br />The Census ACS averages out a few years for a bigger sample. The number of foreign (legal and illegal) born Latin-Americans was:<br /><br />2005-2007: 19.9 million.<br />2009-2011: 21.1 million.<br /><br />So the number of foreign born Latinos has continued to increased by around +300k per year even after the economic crash. This is slower than the +600k per year prior to the crash, but still a rapid increase. <br /><br />In addition between 2007-2011 the number of U.S born Latinos increased by an average of +530k per year. <br /><br />http://www.census.gov/acs/www/ <br /><br />/Victarion <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-4172315948464115132012-12-11T07:17:12.942-08:002012-12-11T07:17:12.942-08:00Well, the Bush Era so a high spike just like the C...Well, the Bush Era so a high spike just like the Clinton era, the Obama era shows a low spike. We need to be on guard and hopefully the legalization of millions of Mexicans doesn't come to past. A lot of libertarian and fiscal conservatives pushed for the legalization like Paul Ryan, Jeff Flake and Mike Lee. Mike Lee is a favorite of the tea party which means that some tea party people will pick low taxes over immirgation restriction.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-40020479417486379852012-12-11T06:36:14.890-08:002012-12-11T06:36:14.890-08:00Has Barone ever been to the border? It seems the m...Has Barone ever been to the border? It seems the media can yank out self styled, well coifed experts who's main experience seems to be cocktail parties at DC to talk about issues as opposed to asking someone who deals with the reality everyday.<br /><br />Nothing is slowing down at the border. You still have groups of 100 crossing multiple times a day, and deporting someone is still nearly impossible. The "most deportations ever" that liberals love to tout? Those are not true deportations- its more slight of hand trickery by this Administration fucking with the numbers. They're simply sacking up the people who are out in the desert and counting them as deports (which they are not, in a legal and administrative sense) when in reality they are illegal entries (USC 8 1324).<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-75799649285117511392012-12-11T06:30:59.676-08:002012-12-11T06:30:59.676-08:00Well, in the states we get the dumber Mexicans tha...Well, in the states we get the dumber Mexicans that can't make a living in Mexico and Mexico overall has a larger populaton than Germany. So of the mestizos are not as dumbed as the ones that usually come to the states. Mexico like a lot of Latin America countries doesn't develop their own companies as much.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-38471892830532112432012-12-11T06:23:40.477-08:002012-12-11T06:23:40.477-08:00Really I don't think welfare is the factor as ...Really I don't think welfare is the factor as people make it out. Many states are more generous with welfare than Texas is and it has the 2nd highest illegal population. California is more generous but San Diego which gets more illegal aliens than San Franciso is less generous. According to liberals San Diego has harder standards for getting welfare than even Texas cities like Houston or Dallas San Diego still has red areas and only went for Obama for 5 points so this may be true. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-84743966729135141492012-12-11T05:54:59.294-08:002012-12-11T05:54:59.294-08:00Somalis were mentioned in this thread.
Does anyon...Somalis were mentioned in this thread.<br /><br />Does anyone know anything about them? How they act, and how they do in school?<br /><br />I ask because most American Blacks originated in West Africa. I presume Somalis are racially the same people as Ethiopians and Eritreans genetically. They definitely aren't Bantus.sunbeamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16540822135478202229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-29986281295940777642012-12-11T03:59:12.498-08:002012-12-11T03:59:12.498-08:00"For example, when our immigration system was..."For example, when our immigration system was opened up in 1965, experts testified that we would not get many immigrants from Latin America or Asia. They assumed that immigrants would come mainly from Europe, as they had in the past."<br />Am I being too cynical in speculating that these "experts" were not being entirely honest in their testimony about the likely results of the 1965 immigration act? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-80892954443390477042012-12-11T02:19:05.536-08:002012-12-11T02:19:05.536-08:00Why so many 'intelligent' people can't...<i>Why so many 'intelligent' people can't or won't see the stark, staringly obvious is a mystery to me.</i><br /><br><br />They don't want to coz it doesn't fit the meme.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-86377958714634027082012-12-11T01:20:23.462-08:002012-12-11T01:20:23.462-08:00As long as the USA pays welfare and Mexico doesn&#...As long as the USA pays welfare and Mexico doesn't they will keep coming.<br />It's the rational thing (for them) to do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-88802772318978277712012-12-11T01:12:21.883-08:002012-12-11T01:12:21.883-08:00Immigration is just about free markets, just like ...Immigration is just about free markets, just like everything else is.<br /> To put it bluntly, if life in the USA is infinitely better than life in Nigeria (which it is), then you can be damn sure that all of Nigeria (apart from a few chiefs), will move in on the USA. Nothing in the book of fate is more certain.<br /> It's all just so f*cking simple, as simple as a store selling i-pads for $10 soon running ot of stock far into the ininite future. Why so many 'intelligent' people can't or won't see the stark, staringly obvious is a mystery to me.<br /> As I sais it is the root and essence of the free market, the only principle that actually matters in economics and explains all, rational actors will do what is rationally beneficial for themselves personally, for a raggedy assed starving Ngerian, you couldn't think of a better bargain even if he died and gone to heaven.<br /><br />Good and rational for the unwashed hordes.<br />But not good and rational for the chumps who they are foisted upon.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-88551218286057317792012-12-10T21:52:37.668-08:002012-12-10T21:52:37.668-08:00For those that think immigration stops when there ...For those that think immigration stops when there are more immigrants than work to be done, please explain Haiti. When did African immigration to Haiti stop? Not pretty, is it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-10205930836672786412012-12-10T21:48:50.483-08:002012-12-10T21:48:50.483-08:00African immigration to the US ended in the 1840s w...African immigration to the US ended in the 1840s when the British Empire made it illegal.. Otherwise the plan was to make the US as African as possible.<br /><br />After that the various immigration exclusion acts stopped immigration from becoming overwhelming until the 1965 act opened the flood gates.<br /><br />But I see no evidence of immigration reaching a saturation point and stopping naturally.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-17317725252377347532012-12-10T21:36:50.330-08:002012-12-10T21:36:50.330-08:00"Speaking of Somalis, police in Columbus had ...<i>"Speaking of Somalis, police in Columbus had to mace a crowd waiting for section 8 vouchers. Based upon their appearance, they look like Somalis."</i><br /><br />Judging by their appearance: yep. And according to local reports: "Hassan Omar, the leader of the Somali Community Association of Ohio, said many Somalis already live at Heritage. Columbus [Ohio] is home to the second-largest Somali community in the United States, and housing is a real problem for them, Omar said. Families are large, and many crowd into too-small apartments. Anytime word of a vacancy spreads, people want in, he said."<br /><br />According to <a href="http://www.npr.org/2011/11/29/142881045/why-columbus-ohio-needs-somali-cops-on-its-force" rel="nofollow">this NPR report</a>, the unemployment rate among the Columbus Somali community, 45 thousand strong, is 40%.Matthewnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-87503441570981241882012-12-10T21:35:18.636-08:002012-12-10T21:35:18.636-08:00http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyDsvc5nmjk
Boomer...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyDsvc5nmjk<br /><br />Boomer academic who teaches American students. <br /><br />She once wrote a book on Japanese cinema.<br /><br />http://www.amazon.com/Joan-Mellen/e/B001H9RRCC<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-7431647677489399362012-12-10T21:04:50.586-08:002012-12-10T21:04:50.586-08:00"If you run out Mexicans where will politicia..."If you run out Mexicans where will politicians import a new people from?"<br /><br />Plenty more non-whites clamouring to colonize the West.RDnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-79396107142718926702012-12-10T20:53:01.977-08:002012-12-10T20:53:01.977-08:00Barone is one of the people who needs to be pushed...Barone is one of the people who needs to be pushed out of the conservative movement if things are ever really going to change.ATBOTLnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-87015085635680178612012-12-10T20:50:50.360-08:002012-12-10T20:50:50.360-08:00Jean Raspail 2011 interview - English subbed.
htt...Jean Raspail 2011 interview - English subbed.<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DW7s9Qi72dk<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5pdk7OiqgM<br /><br />Camp of The Saints was written in 1973.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-42279012093548899452012-12-10T20:30:05.869-08:002012-12-10T20:30:05.869-08:00So Michael Barone believes Mexico is a majority mi...So Michael Barone believes Mexico is a majority middle class country. The reality is they are not. Now Canada that is a majority middle class country.<br /> <br />Even though Canada shares a border with the U.S, you dont see millions of pregnate Canadian women immigrating to the U.S in order to give birth to anchor babies.Jeffersonnoreply@blogger.com